Article on 911 research in newspaper, the City Weekly

As we approach the 8th anniversary of 9/11, we can work for increased media attention.... and get it.

An article just came out in City Weekly, a newspaper in Salt Lake City:

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-8858-we-all-fall-down.html

The author, Eric Peterson, interviewed me in my home in rural Spring City, Utah. (I moved away from the densely populated Wasatch front area last year.) He makes some good points while missing a few points, IMO -- but I would like to hear what you think of this news article. The comments at cityweekly.net so far are supportive of 9/11 research.

The reporter did his homework -- contacting BYU, Fetzer and Greening to get "balance", which is fair. And he caught Fetzer in an error when he blamed Greening's non-appearance at a conference on me unfairly. "Greening sides with Jones," the article says on this point. Greening got this straight, but makes other criticisms without substantiation.

The reporter says that "James Farrer is currently giving presentations on the nano-thermite research in Europe" -- he meant, Niels Harrit. I could nit-pick a few other points.

Please let me know what you think -- and let's get out there into the media on this anniversary of 9/11 while people's attention returns to our truth-seeking movement!

Good...

Job.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

Little Focus On Implications Of Scientific Findings

Fetzer's "sci-fi" material seems to have been given more coverage than a focus on the implications of highly engineered explosive incendiary materials being discovered in the wreckage of the largest crime scene in U.S. history.

9/11 is not history.

There is no statute of limitations that applies to the muder of 3,000 people.

Don't forget the illegal wars 911 was used to justify

I don't believe their is a statute of limitations on the war crimes that 911 was used as currency to justify either.

I think one would have to say that the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the U.S., and of the subsequent illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan can all be considered 911 victims.

Dr. Jones, what sort of feedback are you getting on your paper?

"Active Thermitic Material..." was like a gauntlet thrown down by you and the others, saying "If you look, you will see the same things as we did".

Isn't anyone going to take you up on that by making independent observations of other samples of dust - perhaps dust dug up from Fresh Kills?

Feedback...

The feedback from debunkers is the knee-jerk reaction -- "It must be primer paint used on the WTC steel... "
So we obtained some actual primer paint from WTC steel, and we have verified already that the red-chip material is NOT THE SAME as the primer paint. (WE do experiments, rather than just speculating you see.) More on these results will probably have to wait until we write this up for a scientific paper....

There is a scientist in the Boston area who obtained red/gray chips from a WTC dust sample sent DIRECTLY to him. He has already replicated our main results -- including the chemical signature of C O Fe Al Si, and the presence of iron-rich spheres produced upon ignition. I have encouraged him to publish his results.

Thanks for sharing the comparison test of the WTC paint

Dr. Jones, thanks for sharing the fact that your group has subsequently been able to get ahold of and test actual WTC steel primer paint.

The negative results of the comparison need to be widely publicized as soon as possible.

Wonderful, isn't it, Prof. Jones, that some mention...........

..................of your paper got into the news somehwere?

But it must be frustrating that your work, which I believe is some of the most important ever, is ignored not only by the mainstream press, but even by EVERY alternative venue that I can think of.
It is frustrating to me, and I have not put in the work and effort and time and sacrifices that you and many others have.

Clearly, something is wrong. While the alternative media has presented controversial information about every other issue I can think of, it is suspiciously silent, completely silent, on this issue. There is a reason, but I don't know precisely what it is.
I expect the msm to censor your work. It is clear who they work for or with. But the alternative media exists to do just this: expose what the msm censors.

The American people do not know about your work. Oh, some do. But if I went to all of my friends, my patients, my associates, neighbors, relatives.....................I am not so sure I'd find one person who really knows about it.
That is preposterous, and angering to me. I don't know how you stand it.

My opinion: we have GOT to get the alternative media to present this material. You and Keven and Richard and Niels and David and all the rest deserve to have your work presented in the alternative media first, and finally in the msm. Our nation's future depends on it. We need a plan to entice, or force, or embarrass the alternative media into exposing your work. If a small news source like this can expose it, why in the world would not Alternet or MotherJones or VanityFair or CommonDreams or antiwar.com or Counterpunch or the Nation magazine or Zmag? Something is going on.
I wish somebody would tell me exactly what is keeping these otherwise good sources of controversial information from presenting your good work.

"Active Thermitic Material" will get TOP placement....

http://www.911blogger.com/node/20954

for this years most censored news.

Thank you ProfJones

Project Censored's #1 Story

This gives us leverage in dealing with the alternative media, you guys. We need to utilize the fact that the "Active Thermitic Material" is the #1 story on Project Censored's list this year as a battering ram for breaking through into the alternative media. Shame on them for being anti-science and a party to censorship!

Congratulations on the write-up, Prof. Jones. Two great news items.

I Do Not Know Yet if "Thermite" Story is #One

It should be. I'm being hopeful.

Alternate Media Myth

It should be apparent to all by now that Amy Goodman and the so called alternative/progressive media are to MSM what the Democrats are to the Republicans. It's a dog and pony show folks. They are ALL controlled by you-know-who.

We are getting some exposure on PBS in Denver. This is where we need to push. PBS stations are essentially independent and some are willing to stick their necks out like KDBI.

Very true. They've done a good job in Denver

That was a ray of light beaming into my pessimism about the media.
PBS stations are alternative. Trouble is they are so local.
That was a great job they did there.

But, you seem to understand what I understand: that the alternative media is controlled and purposely censoring our information.
Do you or does anyone else know precisely how this is done?

PBS...OK...but most affilliates are gatekeepers...

There has been a long term and very deliberate reshaping of PBS's operational funding over the years.

What once was a "public" TV and radio system that was funded publically [for a majority part], is now deliberately established to HAVE to receive massive funds from EnormoCorps all over the country. Major donations come from the Military Industrial Complex group.

Its a well known "quid-pro-quo" deal now. EnormoCorp donates funds...PBS-NPR do not cover these EnormoCorp's sins. Simple.

Additionally, PBS' "content" is now controlled in most part by "wealthy private donors" who, in effect, control content because if they don't donate, the lack of funds brings all programming to its knees.

A far more accurate example of how PBS and NPR works than KBDI, is to look at Boston's WGBH-TV and radio...and WBUR-Boston's major NPR radio outlet from Boston University.

[BU's student make-up is much like that of New York University.]

It was always easy to observe, and then to be able to predict, that if WGBH-TV/radio ran anything that was pro-Palestinian, or even nuetral to Palestine, public funds would dry up immediately...and soon thereafter, content would change BACK to favor Israel...and soon after that, the funds would begin to flow again. A more subtle and less traceable "quid-pro-quo".

Denver isn't on the coasts and its religiosity and its private donor base is quite different than MOST PBS-NPR outlets.

And more importantly, most of the few PBS-NPR stations that create "content" for other PBS-NPR stations to buy, ARE on the coasts...hence the national content bias.

Lets hope that things will be changing, that citizens will demand more public and less corporate, and that my personal observations and information will soon no longer apply.

Sadly, the TRUTH is that PBS stands for:

Pentagon Broadcasting System...
Placebo Broadcasting System...
Private Broadcasting System...

and NPR...

National Pentagon Radio...
National Placebo Radio...[hello Garrison Keilor and "Wait, Wait, Don't Wake me"...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....
National Private Radio...

Take your pick from the above...but they ain't "public" no more.

It IS sad to see that they are now a far cry from the great outfits that they once were back when they were first established...and this is all by design...and not at all by accident...as most PBS-NPR organizations are GATEKEEPERS...but not all of them.

In the meantime, the Denver 9/11 Truth community is absolutely awsome in the many, many things that they have accomplished...and continue to accomplish...and this includes making the KBDI broadcasts work. Brilliant moves...

Clearly their work on KBDI is tremendous and we should try it all over the country.

Lets hope that Denver can continue...and lets hope that certain KBDI heads don't roll...

Its good to note that "911TV.com" has ready made 9/11 documentaries that are already formatted to fit into PBS TV play.

We still need to be "our own media" and to "be our own educators"...

Revolutionize revolution with CI...Civil Informationing...

...and help the 9/11 TRUTH for World PEACE virus continue spread...

Love, Peace and Progress with:

PUBLICALLY FUNDED ELECTIONS using HAND COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS on a NEW PAID FEDERAL VOTING HOLIDAY...

...just for starters as we collectivize to throw the criminals out of office...

Robin Hordon
Kingston, WA

Absolutely! Thanks Robin.

I first realized what PBS/NPR was all about when the Bush administration began their propaganda campaign about WMD.
Because of the Guardian and Independent newspapers of London, which seem at least in some cases, independent of the state pressures, I was aware that the WMD issue was bogus. I read about Scott Ritter and CIA retirees and others, all of whom had substantial evidence that Cheyney et al were lying their as*es off. But NPR and PBS would have nothing of it. They followed the ridiculous party line completely, until our troops were on the ground in Iraq, and until it was just so blatantly obvious that we had all been conned by this band of monsters.

Was NPR or PBS ever apologetic, or determined to admit it and do a better job? No.

I don't understand the relationships of some PBS stations, but it is clear that most stations are state controlled Pravda like media venues. I can never trust the average PBS station again.

And while I'm at it, Bill Moyers goes on and on about independent media, and how it is vital to the future of our democracy, because it brings the truth that the corporate media refuses to expose.
But, have you heard Bill Moyers even mention Prof. Jones' and Ryan's scientific paper about nanothermite? Or any other evidence of the lies of 9/11? No. He censors it. Is he ignorant of it? No, that is just about impossible, with his connections to information from so many people.
Like the rest of the media, he has decided to keep Americans in the dark.
Sorry, Bill, I like you, but you are part of the conspiracy to keep the American people from understanding the most important day in American history.

Not only that

Re Moyers: Besides the examples you cite, once when he appealed to his audience to submit the titles of books they recommend and would like discussed on his show, a number of truthers saw the opportunity and began submitting the title of one of David Ray Griffin's books (I believe it was 'Debunking 9/11 Debunking'), and appealed to others to do the same, and the response was such that it was placing high in the results--a definite contender for the show.

But it was not to be. Moyers said there was one submission that was disqualified on grounds that there had been an orchestrated campaign around it. Well, it was apparent which submission he was referring to; and yeah, as if THAT was the real reason he wouldn't consider it.

Excellent

Look forward to the paint analysis. Was it comparable to the Tnemec Red 99 cited by NIST?

And hopefully the Boston scientist will come forward with his findings.

The more samples and the more parties involved, the better.

What will they say then.

If it is established that the red/gray chips are not paint, then the debunkers will just make up another stupid argument. To them it is not about the truth, but attempting to find excuses to believe government propaganda. Or they could make the argument that regardless of what the chips are, their explosive power is not great enough to cut through steel or destroy the towers.

p.s. I've also heard that there is a French scientist also attempting to replicate your findings, Frederic Henry-Couannier??? Any info on his preliminary results?

It was great to see such a long story in the paper.

It was great to see such a long story in the paper. It puts attention on the subject of 9/11 Truth and the article also covered a variety of aspects concerning 9/11.
Putting people's attention in the area of 9/11 Truth is the first in a series of steps. Another step is to interest the reader, invoke curiosity into the subject. Then, hopefully the reader will research the subject.

I never get concerned when details of an article are slightly off. Most people don't fully grasp things the first time through. Teachers know this...it often take repetition and hours of study for a student to gain an understanding. I look at the purpose of the article ( or most media) is to garner further investigation. A person can spend scores of hours studying the subject just to gain a basic overview of 9/11. We are fortunate to have many good films available which take some of the "grind" out of study.

This is great but...

I suspect that at least 80% of the population knows about and believes the nano-thermite theory; they just can't bring themselves to openly admit it to themselves or anyone else because it would mean the end of a way of life. I see a lot of anger coming out at town hall meetings about health care, but I suspect the root cause may be an underlying boil-over of the 911 issue, among other things...

I have to disagree..............80%?.........more like 1%

I honestly don't think hardly any Americans know about the nanothermite found in the WTC dust. I've never come across anyone who does.
The press has completely ignored this, except for a few venues like the Deseret News and this one.
But the msm and, surprisingly and suspiciously, the alternative media has censored any information about Dr. Jones' paper.

It is only a very odd American that will believe something that runs counter to what they learn in the media, and for most people that means the msm, but for a sizeable portion it also means the alternative media.
For the average person to take the time out to really learn about 9/11 truth, they have to be told about it by venues they respect.
Because the msm ignores all 9/11 truth, that means the majority doesn't have a clue.
And because the alternative media ignores 9/11 truth, that means most of the rest of Americans are ignorant about 9/11 truth, and have no inclination to spend their valuable time researching it on fringe websites. These are the people who would normally be very receptive to 9/11 truth.

The alternative media has screwed us. Had they presented this material, we would have a sizeable percentage of Americans receptive to more 9/11 information, and eventually this mass of people would have put pressure on the msm.
But the alternative media, like DemocracyNow and Alternet and others, have purposely ensured that the public is kept in the dark about 9/11 truth. In fact, Alternet (such as senior writer and editor Joshua Holland) has presented articles very mocking and insulting of our movement. Something is going on. I don't know what............but it has been eight years, and I know in my heart these editors and writers are not ignorant of all of the evidence and science we have on our side.

We have lost the battle these last eight years in getting the word out to the American people. The war, though, is not over.

Well look at the story.

Well look at the story. They've got GI Joe blowing up things with 'nanomite'. It's even made it into our pop culture. Sure some of the alternative media is controlled, but we can use 911 as a divining rod to separate out who is reporting what we know to be true, and who isn't.

Good article overall!

I thought that overall it was a very good piece, primarily because it gets at Steve as a person, down-to-earth, a scientist, not kooky, and like you and me. He even drives a all-terrain-vehicle. The details of nanothermite likely will not be relevant for the average reader, but the reasonable nature of Steve as a person. This is very important!

The most powerful weapon working against our work is discrediting us or our work. As long as they can keep people turned away from us, they win, because as soon as people so much as dip a toe into the evidence, in most cases, we win. So they mainly must turn people away.

That wasn't the agenda here.

The Fetzer and Greening issues are minor in the larger picture and reporters always seek that controversy out. What really works about this piece is making Steve into someone people would like to sit down and talk with, rather than someone to avoid, which is what 90% of the typical stories like this try to do.

Great job!

I hope...

... Dr. Jones is doing OK financially and professionally. Hopefully he can still apply himself professionally beyond the 9-11-related research (if he so wishes, of course).
...
The article is mostly good, imho, except the title, which creates an impression as if Dr. Jones had fallen into a sin or committed a crime. The ominous title is worthy of a televangelist, not Dr. Jones.
...
Cheney got an honorary doctorate for public service from BYU??? Congrats, dr. Lecter! What can be more grotesque than that??? Was that an act of "washing a sin" by BYU and reaffirming their loyalty, perhaps?
...
Thank you, Dr. Jones, for your great work and sacrifice!

Doesn't load for me.

Only have been able to read the first page from Google cache:

http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:Ja7Lg89eTTAJ:www.cityweekly.net/utah...

Maybe the site is being overloaded.

Thank you for comments and encouragement.

Very helpful. Tony -- I agree we need to get the paper on the actual primer paint used -- how it is very DIFFERENT from the red-chip thermitic material -- published and out there. Debating whether to do this quickly (J911Studies for example) or through a more established scientific journal where the peer-review process requires months typically. Feedback on this question would be appreciated.

Comments about media are right on-- I'm hopeful we can make another big push with the 8th anniversary coming soon (and with the Nat Geog. documentary, even though it appears to be another "hit piece" unfortunately...)

Thanks for this, Vic:

"I thought that overall it was a very good piece, primarily because it gets at Steve as a person, down-to-earth, a scientist, not kooky, and like you and me. He even drives a all-terrain-vehicle. The details of nanothermite likely will not be relevant for the average reader, but the reasonable nature of Steve as a person. This is very important!

The most powerful weapon working against our work is discrediting us or our work. As long as they can keep people turned away from us, they win, because as soon as people so much as dip a toe into the evidence, in most cases, we win. So they mainly must turn people away.

That wasn't the agenda here.

The Fetzer and Greening issues are minor in the larger picture and reporters always seek that controversy out. What really works about this piece is making Steve into someone people would like to sit down and talk with, rather than someone to avoid, which is what 90% of the typical stories like this try to do.

Great job!"

Great interview

The whole setting with you in the desert and these vehicles makes you look like Mad Max ;-)

BTW, I find this to be an absurd statement:
For one, Greening cites aluminum experts whose research shows that molten aluminum (such as what could have resulted from the melting heat of jet fuel) falling from extreme heights could have a reaction that would be similar to what Jones attributes to nano-thermite. Greening balks at the experiments Jones uses to refute this claim.

But I guess the best thing here is to remember that these are just prevarications.

Prof. Jones, I presume you are doing TEM scans of the material as well, as you said you would, should this research maybe be combined with the paint tests and published into an established journal? In fact, the peer review process itself could attract more interested scientists to this issue...?

IMHO, since it already has been established that the chips are not paint, (I point people here frequently...) I'd use this information to the best effect: in a newly published paper. Why not publish prof. Harrit's article "WHY THE RED/GRAY CHIPS ARE NOT PRIMER PAINT" on J.O.N.E.S. in the mean time?

Whichever you do, thanks for your great effort. You should know that your research shows how much science can matter for questions of justice and truth, and it gets laymen (such as myself, my expertise is elsewhere) all across the world motivated to brush up on their physics and chemistry.

Winning Over the Public

Professor Jones' courage and research have helped us tremendously to draw attention to the deep flaws in the official story. He is highlighted in the new film, Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup.

In Northern California we will be holding our annual 9/11 Film Festival this year at the Grand Lake Theater. With the National Geographic TV attack piece on Jones, Griffin, and Gage coming out at the end of this month/early September, I think we can anticipate a major media war on this issue. Griffin, Dylan, Janette, Gage will be here for the World Premiere of Loose Change. (I tried to invite Professor Jones, but I never got a reply and assumed you probably were too busy to come.) We are, however getting local support from some of the independent weeklies (and attacks from others). The largest Swedish TV station is sending over a crew to interview Griffin, Dylan and do a piece on the Truth movement. Peter Phillips and Mickey Huff will also be speaking and doing what they can to help people know that Jones' work is one of the most censored stories of 2008-2009. Another speaker, Mike Daly, is a steel construction manager, a union guy, who organized showings of 911 Dust and Deceit at the Labor Festival last year, so we are in the slow process of building stronger ties between the unions and the Truth Movement, as well as reaching out to other groups across the spectrums. ( I wish we could have a more diverse group of speakers, but frankly, we barely pulled the Film Festival program together at the last moment- and are still trying to fill some of the holes with musicaians and need more speakers- particularly for our annual 9/11 Truth Rally and March on the 12th, as we will have 4 days of Truth activities.)

Having worked on this issue since 2001, I have witnessed the shift in public consciousness, while we still meet tremendous resistance amongst the corporate and the independent media, we are winning the public over; we are a threat to the powers that be, and they will continue to attack us until we can organize ourselves politically to actually get to the truth of 9/11 and hold those most responsible accountable- and remove them from positions of power. This is going to take awhile.

Thank-you Professor Jones for your courage, your sincerity and your strength, in light of your awareness of the implications of your work, and the magnitude of the struggle we are engaged in.

Carol Brouillet

http://www.communitycurrency.org

Thanks for all YOUR work, Carol --

and I do hope it goes well for the World Premiere of the latest Loose Change.

Steve

Great article!

Although I caught the repetition of several sentences on Page 2:

While Jones is like a walking encyclopedia of disturbing 9/11 facts, the inflection in his voice is not that of tinfoil-hat vitriol against the New World Order.

While Jones is like a walking encyclopedia of disturbing 9/11 facts, the inflection in his voice is not that of tinfoil-hat vitriol against the New World Order.

“It’s science, it’s repeatable. It doesn’t matter if you’re Mormon, atheist, Jewish—you can check it out yourself. You do the experiment, you get the results. That’s the way science works.”

“They can say what they want,” Jones says. “It’s science, it’s repeatable. It doesn’t matter if you’re Mormon, atheist, Jewish—you can check it out yourself. You do the experiment, you get the results. That’s the way science works.”

Thank you Dr. Jones

............ It defines the man you are. America needs more men like you. Thank you for your sacrifices.