Vote for thorough 9/11 investigation in Homeland Sec public review

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is in the midst of its
Quadrennial Homeland Security Review. Part of that process is a
Web-based "national dialogue" on the subject. Phase 2 of that
dialogue is presently underway. Participants (anyone is welcome to
participate) are asked to rank priorities related to a number of DHS
goals in the categories of counterterrorism, borders, immigration, and
disasters. Additionally, participants may submit ideas and vote those
ideas up or down (similar to the Barack Obama presidential campaign's
"Citizens' Briefing Book").

Under the "counterterrorism" category, I submitted the following idea
(including one embarassing typo):


The United States, in cooperation with other nations, should
complete an independent, impartial, thorough, and nonpartisan
investigation into the events of September 11, 2001.

Why it's important:

Much of our nation's present counterterrorism policy was shaped by the
horrific events of September 11, 2001. Unfortunately, a thorough
investigation of those events has yet to be completed. We would be
well off to gain a better understanding of what happened before
continuing to base drastic changes in our domestic and foreign
policies on what relatively little we know about the situation.

Extreme controversy surrounds this topic, and anyone who dares
question the explanation with which we were presented within hours of
the events is routinely shouted down as a conspiracy theorist. We need
to move past this divisive quarrelling. Clearly, multiple people
conspired to commit those crimes. It's not so clear, however, who was
involved, either directly or indirectly. The chair and vice chair of
the 9/11 commission publicly admit that official evidence they were
given was "far from the truth".

Following is quoted from a 2007 article written by Peter Tatchell (who
says that he does not believe in conspiracy theories) and published by
The Guardian:

I went on to quote Tatchell's article in its entirety, with his
hyperlinks to supporting information included.


Tatchell's article is available at:

Added mine..

A nice piece. There could be lots more to comment on and a few more 5 star votes. Rep can we move this up to the front?

Here were my comments:

The 9/11 commission was an abomination and aberration of this governments mindset before, during, and after the attacks. The response to 9/11 has cast us dearly. In response to 9/11 we now have two wars, the (un)PATRIOT ACT taking away of our (yours too) civil liberties, FISA II, legal torture, intrusion on our phone calls and emails, rendition, politicized justice dept, and this wonderful giant intelligence bureaucracy apparatus (to go with the other 12) called "homeland security" when all really needed was the FBI to do its job.

Why we need a new investigation is so ALL the facts surrounding 9/11 are considered. I know most people refuse to believ it, but if there are factions within our government that aided in this plot (and there is much evidence there was), shouldn't we know? We can't just bury our heads in the sand, cover our ears and eyes yelling "la la la la", to the evidence because we just "refuse" to believe it. This way of thinking makes the next attack an absolute 100% certainty.

The real facts are that false flag attacks are the oldest trick in the book dating back to the romans. Hitler used them extensively. Google Operation Northwoods if you do not think the US Government would not stoop to such measures. They can and they do. The CIA LSD experiments for mind control, 400 black men in Mississippi purposely injected with syphillus and not treated for it by our health department. The list goes on and these are historical facts.

Lastly, if we expose 9/11 as being just as advertised, then we can take comfort in the measures we are taking to counter terrorism. But if 9/11 turns out to be the fraud that at least 1/3rd of our population believes it is, then maybe, just maaayyybe, we begin to look at the REAL underlying causes of terrorism (like money and power) and take appropriate measures to counter them like establishing an honest monetary policy (no fiat money) and a fair and equitable global economy. Remove the debt burdens placed on many developing countries. Debt marked by fake paper money that never existed (and still doesn't but only in a computer). It could lead to a new social order instead of a new world order. We could stop making ideological enemies and demonizing them in our media. There are many steps we can take, but the first step begins with the truth about 9/11.

(the site didn't allow paragraphing so it all got lumped together. Might be easier to read here)

peace all


"To be persuasive we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible; to be credible we must be truthful."
Edward R. Murrow

I cannot find

where a 9/11 commission member literally said that the official evidence they were given was 'far from the truth'.

All I have right now Peter Tatchell's say so, on what seems to be a blog by The Guardian.

So, where is this verbatim quote, who said it, and where? It would be a nice addition to "set up to fail" etc. etc. Where is it?

Please participate!

This is what I wrote:

The 9/11 Commission, indeed, was a joke. Dr. David Ray Griffin has aptly named it the "Omission Commission" - a term now also used by many of those who lost their loved ones on 9/11. For example, the Commission did not even mention the total destruction of the third skyscraper on 9/11 - a destruction that matches the most skilled of controlled demolitions possible, and one whose official 8-year "investigation", filled with speculations of various sorts, began with the *destruction* of all physical research material (NIST: "no steel was recoved from WTC 7"). And we are expected to take the official investigations into 9/11 seriously!

No wonder why, in a poll last year, 38 percent of my countrymen responded that 9/11 was an inside job (history, of course, is filled with false flag operations, typically to trigger wars) - a figure actually somewhat higher than in the big European countries in an international poll. And perhaps Homeland Security should also investigate the implications of what an international group of scientists, led by the Danish scientist Niels Harrit, found: residues _en masse_ of sophisticated nanothermite in WTC dust samples. This study, entitled "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe", was published last spring in a peer-reviewed chemical physics journal by a well-known science publisher. The results also underwent peer review at Brigham Young University. They have been factually and constructively discussed in European mainstream media, and they have so far not been refuted in a scientific journal. Surely finding out what really happened on 9/11 should be the top priority of counterterrorist investigations.

How come...

... it's so quiet here? Aren't people interested in this?