From July 2001: In Bin Laden's Lair, Small Talk And A Warning
An interesting article someone sent me. - Jon
The Washington Post - Washington, D.C.
Author: Pamela Constable
Date: Jul 8, 2001
Start Page: A.16
Section: A SECTION
Text Word Count: 995
The car windows were blackened to hide the route and destination. The house was heavilyguarded, and the visitor could see only the mud-walled room around him, with several bearded, turbaned men sitting on low cushions. Oneof them was Osama bin Laden.
Bakr Atiani, a TV reporter with the Saudi-owned, London-based Middle East Broadcasting Center, received a phone call last month inviting him to Afghanistan to meet bin Laden, the Saudi fugitive wanted by U.S. officials on charges of planning the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa and suspected of involvement in the attack on a U.S. warship in Yemen.
Bin Laden uttered only occasional pleasantries, letting aides do most of the talking during the rare three-hour meeting in his desert hideaway in southern Afghanistan, Atiani said. His reticence was apparently in keeping with his pledge to the Afghan authorities who harbor him that he will not use his Afghan base as a launching pad for political statements or foreign adventures. But his aides delivered a message that was direct, clear and chilling.
"They said there would be attacks against American and Israeli facilities within the next several weeks," recounted Atiani, who is based in Islamabad. "I am 100 percent sure of this, and it was absolutely clear they had brought me there to hear this message."
The broadcast report of the meeting in late June came at a time when videotapes described as bin Laden-produced recruiting tapes were circulating in the Middle East, and U.S. intelligence services were detecting evidence of suspicious activity around some U.S. embassies. As a result, all U.S. military forces in the Middle East were placed on high alert, and U.S. embassies and military facilities across the region were warned to expect attacks.
So far no such attacks have occurred, and officials of the Taliban, the Islamic militia that controls most of Afghanistan, have adamantly reiterated that bin Laden is under strict orders not to abuse the protection they provide for him.
"No matter what the United States' views are, the Afghan government has taken certain precautions for their own security as long as the presence of Osama continues on our soil," said a spokesman for Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban's envoy to Islamabad.
Although Taliban officials have repeatedly refused U.S. requests to hand over bin Laden for prosecution in the United States, "the Taliban government has nevertheless ensured that Osama has no means of communication with the outside world," the spokesman said. "This is also to enhance our own security."
Some American commentators have mocked the panic that such vague and unconfirmed threats have recently caused among U.S. officials. Washington is still smarting from the August 1998 embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed 240 people, and the bombing last October of the USS Cole in Yemen, which killed 17.
Reports of new threats by bin Laden, meanwhile, set off a flurry of speculation in Pakistan recently that the United States was planning a bombing raid or commando attack on Afghanistan. After the African embassy bombings, Washington retaliated with cruise missile attacks on military training camps allegedly operated by bin Laden inside Afghanistan.
American concerns about the threat bin Laden represents to U.S. interests remain the major obstacle to improved relations between Washington and the military-run government of Pakistan, one of Afghanistan's few allies and its major diplomatic channel to the world.
In the past several weeks, U.S. officials have attempted in vain to persuade Pakistani authorities to use their influence with the Taliban to rein in bin Laden. In Washington, officials met with Pakistan's foreign minister, Abdul Sattar, who reportedly told them Pakistan has little power over the Taliban and needs to maintain cordial relations with the group because of Afghanistan's strategic location and long-standing friendship.
In Islamabad, meanwhile, the departing U.S. ambassador, William B. Milam, said that he had reiterated American concerns about bin Laden in final courtesy calls on Pakistani officials and Taliban diplomats stationed there.
According to news agency reports in Pakistan, Zaeef said Milam had warned him that Washington would hold the Afghans responsible for any attacks by binLaden, but that Zaeef had "categorically" assured Milam "we would never allow anyone to use our soil for attacks against Americans."
In an interview, however, Milam said he was discouraged by the outcome of his meetings and suggested that Pakistan was locked into a relationship with its Afghan neighbors. The Taliban has collaborated with Pakistan in its support of Islamic insurgents in Kashmir, a disputed region on Pakistan's border with India, and has close ties to conservative Islamic groups inside Pakistan.
"It was clear we still have a long way to go before coming to a meeting of the minds on this issue," Milam said.
Concerns about bin Laden's terrorist reach have also been raised recently in New Delhi, where a Sudanese man was arrested last month on suspicion of planning to attack the U.S. Embassy. Local police said the man told them he was acting on orders from a Yemeni man associated with bin Laden.
U.S. officials here have not commented on the case, and Atiani, the reporter, said bin Laden's aides did not seem to know about the alleged New Delhi operation when he raised the subject with them. Whether bin Laden and his followers have the means to carry out more spectacular attacks in the near future, they clearly want the world to believe they can and will.
During his meeting in the Afghan hide-out, Atiani said, the reclusive bin Laden, who has rarely granted interviews and has previously been reported to be in ill health, seemed healthy, calm and confident.
"He didn't say much, but I could feel his confidence. He smiled and he looked like he had put on weight," Atiani said.
Although the compound was clearly located in southern Afghanistan, the reporter said he saw only Arabs during his visit. "It felt like bin Laden had his own Arab kingdom in southern Afghanistan," he said.
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Questions
The questions that most readily come to my mind are, do we know anything more about:
Bakr Atiani and the Middle East Broadcasting Corporation?
Their sources, Bin Laden's 'aides'?
Of course, I'm long past being able to take such reports at face value. This one just seems to fit so well with some kind of intelligence operation.
And WaPo, of course
And of course, the paper the report is appearing in, the Washington Post. We know something about how close they've been with the intelligence community over the decades.
Another attack by whom?By the persons profitting from the crime!
John MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE
bonjour ,
once we think that George Bush & Company acted out the PNAC's plan, then all attacks after are under suspicion. For eight years now they have got away with possible murder. Having done it before there is no reason not to continue and perhaps in a different way for exemple with Bioterrorism ?
We must not forget that the outbreak of H1N1 in 1976 was from Fort Detrick which has the sinister reputation to have provided the high grade military ANTHRAX the 18 september 2001( put in the post before the 18th, the neocons wanted Sadam Hussein to be blamed but their plot backfired ).
The world is not safe while the criminals are free and in executive positions of power !
I think there will be other attacks and it will be difficult to know who did it. However it will not be difficult to know who will profit from the crime.
Yours John
Many questions, few answers
Pay-per-view of this article at WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=digest&co...
Military Bin Laden-mongering using this article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010717001622/http://www.belvoir.army.mil/ne...
"They said there would be attacks against American and Israeli facilities within the next several weeks," recounted Atiani, who is based in Islamabad. "I am 100 percent sure of this, and it was absolutely clear they had brought me there to hear this message."
Why was bin Laden telegraphing plans to attack the US thru London-based media, when this might result in increased security or even preemptive strikes? After all, Bin Laden had already proven he and his followers were dangerous, destroying American lives and property, and there .
"Reports of new threats by bin Laden, meanwhile, set off a flurry of speculation in Pakistan recently that the United States was planning a bombing raid or commando attack on Afghanistan."
According to this report, the speculation in Pakistan seems to indicate they thought it certain there would be a US military response, either in advance or after the fact. And it may mean they thought Bin Laden (Bin Laden, the US proxy/CIA asset?) was giving the US an excuse to attack- for the Unocal pipeline, perhaps?
These warnings by Bin Laden also helped the US assign blame to Bin Laden after the fact; it was pointed out by pols and pundits that Bin Laden had been warning of an attack, when Bin Laden was denying involvement and the Establishment was trying to fix the blame on him.
other media warnings, and point made about 'Bin Laden's' responsbility:
http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0109b&L=sas-l&P=15304
"Concerns about bin Laden's terrorist reach have also been raised recently in New Delhi, where a Sudanese man was arrested last month on suspicion of planning to attack the U.S. Embassy. Local police said the man told them he was acting on orders from a Yemeni man associated with bin Laden.
U.S. officials here have not commented on the case, and Atiani, the reporter, said bin Laden's aides did not seem to know about the alleged New Delhi operation when he raised the subject with them."
But, according to the article, "the Taliban government has nevertheless ensured that Osama has no means of communication with the outside world," the spokesman said. "This is also to enhance our own security." And, Bin Laden had "pledg[ed] to the Afghan authorities who harbor him that he will not use his Afghan base as a launching pad for political statements or foreign adventures."
Then again, the veracity of any detail in the article and the entire article is open to question; it's the Washington Post, which has long served as a tool of the war-mongering Establishment.
Was it really Bin Laden issuing the warning- and who is Bin Laden anyway?
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=osama_bin_laden
In any case, fake or real, this article 3 months prior to 9/11 establishes that US authorities took these warnings seriously- yet, as 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said,
"The 9/11 report in chapter eight says that, in the summer of 2001, the government ignored repeated warnings by the CIA, ignored, and didn’t do anything to harden our border security, didn’t do anything to harden airport country, didn’t do anything to engage local law enforcement, didn’t do anything to round up INS and consular offices and say we have to shut this down, and didn’t warn the American people."
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"The president says, if I had only known that 19 Islamic men would come into the United States of America and on the morning of 11 September hijack four American aircraft, fly two into the World Trade Center, one into the Pentagon, and one into an unknown Pennsylvania that crashed in Shanksville, I would have moved heaven and earth. That’s what he said.
Mr. President, you don’t need to know that. This is an Islamic jihadist movement that has been organized since the early 1990s, declared war on the United States twice, in ‘96 and ‘98. You knew they were in the United States. You were warned by the CIA. You knew in July they were inside the United States. You were told again by briefing officers in August that it was a dire threat.
And what did you do? Nothing, so far as we could see on the 9/11 Commission. Now, that’s in the report. And we took an oath not to talk about it during the campaign..."
http://911reports.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/911-commissioner-bob-kerrey-w...
A full investigation is in order.
http://911reports.com
http://www.historycommons.org