Richard Gage AIA of AE911Truth Visits Washington to Push for New 9/11 Investigation

From: Baltimore Grassroots Media

On Monday, July 20, 2009, BGM followed Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, on the final day of his visit to Washington, D.C.
The final stop was the White House where Gage, with Slesinger, laid an AE911Truth banner on the sidewalk and addressed the tourists gathered there. Gage got into a heated but cordial debate with a man who identified himself as Kevin, a "reformed thuther" and the former "debunking director" on the JREF Forum.

See The BMG Article for the video.

HaHaHa The "Debunking Director"

Says he knows nothing about Physics or Engineering

That's hilarious!

Excellent work

And he's quite triumphant

But I wonder why.

First he says he believes NIST, then he says things that disagree with the NIST report (The damage from the WTC caused the "collapse").

This is known as cognitive dissonance.

But I wonder why?

Debunkers and others have long pointed to the damage along the south face of WTC7 as a contributing factor in its collapse. This dates back to at least the Popular Mechanics article and book. From the article,

"With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom — approximately 10 stories — about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner."

However, with their Final Report on WTC7 NIST has disavowed the role played by the damage to WTC7. From their FAQ,

"Would WTC 7 have collapsed even if there had been no structural damage induced by the collapse of the WTC towers?
Yes. Even without the structural damage, WTC 7 would have collapsed from the fires that the debris initiated.

Obviously, the "Director" was not aware of the current propaganda explanation for the collapse of WTC7. He was still repeating the old propaganda story and Richard Gage called him on it, but in a nice way. :)

Strange Farewell At The End

Quoting JREF'R: "Careful there Richard".

Not sure what that was supposed to mean.

Argumentum ad baculum

is what it is.

Strange Farewell Interpreted

Scene closing.

Richard introduces himself to camera girl as she starts to leave.

Continuing to back away, Kevin says "Careful there Richard!" in, "she's MY girl, don't try any fast moves there! Heh. Heh"

No argument for 2.25 secs of admitted freefall

I see how he conveniently left out 105 feet of freefall. Does JREF even try to defend that or do they just hope we forget about that one. I see that NIST also has not updated or corrected their computer simulation to accomodate for this. The "debunking director", how laughable.

Together in truth

Peace all


"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002

What Coincidence?

1- Richard Gage stopped by the White house at a random period of time to place the banner and speak about 911. he received permission from the captiol police to do so.

2-The moderator from the infamous Randi 911 debunking forum just happened to be their at the exact same moment in time, at the exact place that Richard Gage was at that time.

My questions are:

a- Who did Richard Gage announce his specific brief visit to the White house to on or before July 20, 2009?
b-Was he questioned by, or was the JREF person and his girl present at the AIA function in DC?
c-Was the plan to go to the White House at that specific time a sur of the moment decision or was the exact time set out on paper or part of an announced plan?

He's not the moderator

He just calls himself "The Director". He's got 71 posts to his name. He's just a silly kid with issues.

His signature says: "I want to be like Gravy [Mark Roberts] when I grow up."

That says it all.

Should have

asked "Mr. history teacher" ( God help us) if he is familiar with the history of false flag terror..

My Impromptu Debate with Richard Gage outside The White House

Here you can read what the Randi's had to do say about the debate. Warning: Only for those who wish to descend deep into the divers of the Dunciad.

The sort of people that hang around at JREF


I spent most of my career in intel & security, and am reasonably familiar with the basic concepts of physical security. Some of the places I worked were in still-secret (more or less) underground locations, and some were incredibly tough to even approach ... maybe impossible, without being detected. But usually reasons for the specific security precautions in each place were pretty obvious.


No wonder Miles Kara loves the place. JREF is infested with military and intelligence types. Yeehaw.

Yes,they (JREF 911

Yes,they (JREF 911 'debunkers')) are almost all military/intel people and they freely admit this. Just go start a 911 thread over there & see,I did (Debunk me/re 911). It was very interesting. Nearly all of them were military,former military & presented themselves as experts. Those sort of people are legitimate 'skeptics' they're damage control. They know damn well that 911 was an inside job.

JREF: skeptics or pseudo-skeptics?

When dealing with the JREFers, its always pertinent to constantly ask oneself the question "Is JREF a sincere and honest group of people, truly trying to weed out flimflam, or are they more concerned with promoting their (or others parties') agendæ by the use of flimflam disguised as skepticism"?

A useful link is here:

Also, a link that casts some light on the organization's founder, James Randi.
He doesn't appear to be quite the scientifically solid "skeptic" that he claims... not only has he liberallyemployed dishonest techniques but also he does not have the relevant scientific credentials that would lend credibility to his arguments.

It would be interesting to ask William Rodriguez about Randi: he worked as his assistant before working as janitor at the World Trade Center.

Good stuff bloggulator

I particularly liked the Michael Prescott article. It really fits the whole JREF profile over there. In some ways I feel for them as it just goes to show how good the PTB are at conditioning their subjects and myths.

take good care


"Propaganda is not meant to fool the intelligencia, it is merely meant to provide them an excuse to avoid seeing ugly realities, they’d sooner not believe.”
-- Joseph Goebbels

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
- G.W. Bush


I guess your Goebbels quote applies perfectly to the left wing gatekeepers. (Which, unfortunately, includes Chomsky).

It's a great quote.

For posterity (click to enlarge)

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Yes, Kevin, we are laughing at you. Not because you don't have an engineering or physics degree, but because you did such a poor job. Unfortunately for you the truth about 9/11 is not a laughing matter.