Former Prime Minister of Denmark knew the first tower was going to collapse! Who told him?

The program was aired on October 4th during prime time in the evening between 21:00 - 22:00 on DR2, a Danish television station part of Danmarks Radio - a public service broadcasting company in Denmark. DR2 is the "serious", second channel of national Danish television.

It was the second program in the series "24 hours I'll never forget" about
September 11th, 2001. The channel is known for its experimental comedy, documentaries and in-depth news programmes, earning it much praise for its high quality shows.

Two documentaries previously shown on the same channel were The Power of Nightmares (as Frygtens politik) and The Great Global Warming Swindle (as Den store løgn om global opvarmning, 12 July 2007).

So who told him?


Do tell...

Background info - Poul Nyrup Rasmussen

"Poul Nyrup Rasmussen (Danish pronunciation: [⁽ˈ⁾pʰʌʊ̯l ny(ː)ɔb̥ ˈʁɑsmusn̩]), informally Poul Nyrup ([⁽ˈ⁾pʰʌʊ̯l nyːˀɔb̥]), born 15 June 1943), was Prime Minister of Denmark from 25 January 1993 to 27 November 2001 and is currently President of the Party of European Socialists (PES). He was the leader of the governing Social Democrats from 1992 to 2002...."

Again, nobody asked...

... WHO told him in advance that the tower would completely collapse?

Well, Danish 9/11 activists, here is a challenge for you!

Denmark contributed combat troops to Iraq invasion

Denmark was one of the "most willing" of the US Iraq Coalition they actually sent combat troops, just a handful, but they were one of the 4 countries along with the UK, Australia, and Poland to send combat troops for the actual invasion of Iraq.

General info on Denmark...

Constitutional monarchy like the UK.

...what am I missing here? Why the frack does Denmark, of all countries, keep popping up all the time?

Denmark was the proud home of the cartoon jihad mess. too.

O(peration) I(raki) L(iberation)

This man, Mærsk McKinney Møller

seen here with The Order of The Elephant, Denmarks highest award, normally only given to heads of State (and Niels Bohr)
owns the rights to exploit the Danish oil, the Worlds largest container-shipping firm, Denmarks largest bank, a bunch of supertankers and
Maersk Line Limited, a US-registered company that had Pentagon-contracts worth 638,7 million dollars in 2004.
Those of you who know about the meaning of symbols will appreciate his Shield, the pointed star is also the corporate-logo :

He also runs the oilshipping-operation (or parts of it) out of Bushra, "Irak" ... Mærsk is a HUGE "fan" of the USA btw ..

When the neo-cons planned the robbery of Irak, this man :

(Danish PM Anders Fogh Rasmussen pelted with paint inside Parliament-building)
Anders Fogh Rasmussen,former Danish PM, now NATO Secretary General had a problem :
Danish Law forbids any Danish national, including corporations, to assist the parties in a illegal war in any way .
This is of course not an acceptable situation to put The Elephant-Knight in, so the old boys lied their teeth off, manipulated the intelligence and
had Parliament make the war "legal" despite it being in clear violation of all International Law .
After Fogh-Rasmussen got his reward-job from the Big Old Boys, this man, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, became PM :

(Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen, holding Kalashnikov, photographed by Jørn Stjerneklar in Afghanistan, 1988 .)
Lars Løkke was delivering 200.000 DKr (40.000$) to the so-called "Mujahedin" ..
The photographer has written an article about the trip in Danish newspaper "Politiken", a Trilateral Commision/CFR/Bilderberg-rag

Are you getting the picture ??

As for Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, well he's one of these "New Socialdemocrats" that swarm Europe like a plague, they are hellbent on turning the EU
into the United States of Europe, preferably with liar and religious hypocrite Tony B Liar as non-elected president .
It's common knowledge in Denmark that the Mossad has it's own office inside the Danish security-services headquarters..
They probably told him, it wasn't the Danish military, they had a guy sitting on TeeVee all day and he was just as suprised as the rest of us when the first tower exploded .. and that's what they called it and they went on and on about how much explosives would have been needed and how this type of operation requires the resources of a State ..

And it gets even better ... The man to right of Uncle Powell is Per Stig Møller, Denmarks Foreign Affairs minister .

He became member of Government on November 27 2001 when the neo-cons took over the Danish Government, helped by the attacks and the general anti-muslim sentiment in large parts of the Dansih population .
On the morning of September 12 2001 Per Stig Møller told on national Danish radio how he had heard the attack on the Pentagon, he even claimed to have seen an airplane perform a strange manoeuvre shortly before hearing "an explosion" and looking at his watch and noting the time as "9:32" .
A few days later he changed the story to NOT seeing any airplane, at 9:45 hours .. Now, who told him to change his story ?
" Justice for Barry Jennings "

Something rotten

Thanks for that informative summary.

So it turns out Shakespeare was right: There IS something rotten in the state of Denmark.

Not to single out the Danes, though. Sometimes, truthers in the US seem surprised at the resistance that the truth about 9/11 encounters from governments outside the US. After all, its much more difficult to see how these governments benefit geopolitically from the 9/11 official story in comparison with the US. But details like this about Denmark help us see that there are ambitious factions in other countries as well who benefited in their own domestic politics (and possibly in their international relations as well) from a certain understanding of what the 9/11 attacks were--and who would NOT benefit should the truth be brought to light.

I couldn't Believe When I First Heard The Towers Collapsed

When I was first informed that both towers had come down (I woke up late), I didn't believe the messenger. I thought the person had misheard the newscast, since I assumed that the towers were built to survive fast moving commercial aircraft. Later I learned that the towers were indeed designed to survive fast moving commercial aircraft impacts. As a matter of fact, the towers were designed to survive worse kinetic energy impact damage than they sustained on 9/11. Here is the proof:

Kinetic Energy Calculations of Flight 11 and Flight 175 Impacts

Formula for Kinetic Energy (KE)

KE = 0.5 · M · V2

Takeoff Weights for Boeing 767 –200ER and Boeing 707 –320B

The Maximum Takeoff Weight for a Boeing 767 -200ER is 179,170 kg

The Maximum Takeoff Weight for a Boeing 707 -320B is 152,400 kg
Aircraft Type, Speed and Kinetic Energy Impact Calculation the WTC Towers Were Designed to Withstand and Survive

KE of Boeing 707 at 270 m/s*

(0.5) · (152,400 kg) · (270)2

= 76,200 kg · 72,900

= 5,554,980,000 Joules
Actual Aircraft Types, Impact Speeds of Flights 11 and 175 and Kinetic Energy Impact Calculations

Flight 11 Impact Speed into North Tower at 08:46:

KE of Boeing 767 at 198 m/s**

(0.5) · (179,170 kg) · (198)2

= 89,585 · 39,204

= 3,512,090,340 Joules

Flight 175 Impact Speed into South Tower at 09:03:

KE of Boeing 767 at 243 m/s**

(0.5) · (179,170 kg) · (243)2

= 89,585 · 59,049

= 5,289,904,665 Joules
*270 m/s = 600 mph.

**NIST reports the impact speed of Flight 11 at 440 mph (198 m/s) and the impact speed of Flight 175 at 540 mph (243 m/s).
As is readily observed in the above calculations, the kinetic energy unleashed upon the towers by the impacts of Flights 11 and 175 fell well within the capabilities of the towers to withstand such trauma. The towers were built to survive the impact of a Boeing 707 traveling at 600 miles per hour (965.6 km/h). The kinetic energy of such a strike would unleash 5,554,980,000 Joules. Although the Boeing 767s that struck the towers on September 11, 2001 were each approximately 59,000 lbs. (26,770 kg) heavier than the Boeing 707s the designers of the towers had based their calculations on, the reduced airspeeds of the impact aircrafts over-compensated for this greater weight, resulting in less kinetic energy expended.

The kinetic energy expended in the first strike on the North Tower by Flight 11 is calculated at a shockingly low 3,512,090,340 Joules, far below the 5,554,980,000 Joules the towers were designed to withstand and survive. The greater velocity of Flight 175 (540 mph or 874.8 km/h vs. 440 mph or 712.8 km/h for Flight 11), resulting in a kinetic energy calculation of 5,289,904,665 Joules, is still below the designers’ allowance of 5,554,980,000 Joules for the towers. These calculations prove that the towers should have survived the structural damage inflicted on them by the impact of Flights 11 and 175.

In regards to the fires in both towers, their severity and run-time were inconsequential. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) admits as much in its failure to analyze the massive heat sink properties of the towers.1 This inexplicable failure on the part of NIST is de facto recognition that fire was not the cause of the towers’ collapse. Not helping NIST on this matter is the agency’s continued stonewalling of calls from the engineering community to release the computer simulation models used to determine the fire damage to the towers’ steel.2 Is it any wonder then that the former chief of NIST’s Fire Science Division, James Quintieri, has called for an independent review into the NIST investigation.3

It should also be noted that the maximum jet fuel capacity for a Boeing 707-320B is 23,000 gallons,4 while the maximum jet fuel capacity for a Boeing 767-200 is 23,980 gallons.5 The actual amount of jet fuel that spilled into each tower was approximately 10,000 gallons,6 13,000 gallons less than the designers of the towers had allowed for to spill into the buildings.



2. New Civil Engineer, 10/6/2005.




Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief
Washington, DC

Is this particular calculation in a published paper anywhere?

(Also Does that calculation include max. potential joules from the fuel load each aircraft contained? I think someone has already worked out. Joules in Jet A fuel per gallon * max fuel capacity for 707s and 767s)

If so, I can't remember where that might be at this particular moment.

What would the link to that be?

If it's not, it should be. It's easy to requote to other layman.

I wouldn't be able to give other laymen a link to a message board thread as the source, and expect to be treated with any seriousness.

Not So Deep Impact


I wrote the article up two years ago and posted it at back in June 2008 (It's still there under the title, "Not So Deep Impact").

I don't think this kind of paper/calculation has been published anywhere. I could be wrong, though!

Maximum Takeoff Weight (MTOW) includes fuel.

The paper, I think, is pretty straight forward, using basic math.

As you can see in the kinetic energy impact calculation for Flight 11, the damage done is nowhere near the damage the north tower was designed to withstand and survive.

Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief
Washington, DC

For the layman

Is there anyway you could put together another version of these calculations in an easy to understand format for the layman? Then even take that version and create a video explanation?

With you in the struggle,
WeAreChangeLA -

Rasmussen isn't alone in

Rasmussen isn't alone in this knowledge. Former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani, shortly after 9/11 admitted to Peter Jennings in an interview on ABC that he was told that the Twin Towers were going to collapse, in advance. Considering that this catastrophic outcome was not expected (there is no historical record of any remotely similar highrise building failure): Firstly, who told Giuliani, and secondly, armed with this knowledge, why did the mayor not relay urgent warnings to the hundreds of FDNY, NYPD and other first responders and the general public to "get the hell out of there asap"?

Technically (and perhaps legally), Rasmussen (and Giuliani) could be accessory before and after the fact to the murder of almost 3000 people. And accessory to a crime can carry penalties as severe as the sentences dished out to the perps. This is why we so desperately need a new investigation with full subpoena power..... Giuliani admits this around 1:50 into the video.


Medical worker was also given advance warning of first collapse

Emergency medical worker Richard Zarrillo was also told to pass on a message to the fire command post, prior to the first collapse, that the World Trade Center was in danger of a "near imminent collapse." See the following entry from the Complete 9/11 Timeline:

(Before 9:59 a.m.) September 11, 2001: EMT Worker Given Message That WTC Towers Are Going to Collapse; High-Level Officials Evacuate Lobby of North Tower
In the lobby of Building 7 of the WTC, EMS Division Chief John Peruggia is in discussion with Fire Department Captain Richard Rotanz and a representative from the Department of Buildings. As Peruggia later describes, “It was brought to my attention, it was believed that the structural damage that was suffered to the [Twin] Towers was quite significant and they were very confident that the building’s stability was compromised and they felt that the North Tower was in danger of a near imminent collapse.” Peruggia grabs EMT Richard Zarrillo and tells him to pass on the message “that the buildings have been compromised, we need to evacuate, they’re going to collapse.” Zarrillo heads out to the fire command post, situated in front of 3 World Financial, the American Express Building, where he relays this message to several senior firefighters. He says, “OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get out.” (OEM is the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management, which has its headquarters in WTC 7.) Fire Chief Pete Ganci’s response is, “who the f___ told you that?” Seconds later, they hear the noise of the South Tower as it collapses. [City of New York, 10/23/2001; City of New York, 10/25/2001; City of New York, 10/25/2001; City of New York, 11/9/2001] Others also appear to have been aware of the imminent danger. Fire Chief Joseph Pfeifer, who is at the command post in the lobby of the North Tower, says, “Right before the South Tower collapsed, I noticed a lot of people just left the lobby, and I heard we had a crew of all different people, high-level people in government, everybody was gone, almost like they had information that we didn’t have.” He says some of them are moving to a new command post across the street. [City of New York, 10/23/2001; Firehouse Magazine, 4/2002; Dwyer and Flynn, 2005, pp. 214] Mayor Giuliani also says he receives a prior warning of the first collapse, while at his temporary headquarters at 75 Barclay Street (see (Before 9:59 a.m.) September 11, 2001).



Who was that guy?

why have we no name, besides that we knew all other people who attented the Potanz/Peruggia meeting?

Another issue:

Next the film talks to Fire Chief Peter Hayden about the events surrounding WTC7's imminent collapse that day. Interestingly he talks about a 'specific engineer' who accurately predicted the collapse down to a T. By the way he says it, it sure sounds like a whole team of engineers was consulted that day and he was the only one who predicted the collapse! It would have been nice for the BBC to identify and interview this engineer, since he seems to have a better understanding of the building's collapse mechanisms than all the engineers at NIST! He single handedly predicted the collapse, in advance, and with limited understanding of the situation. NIST in a multi-million dollar, multi year investigation has yet to come to a definitive collapse hypothesis! It would have been very informative for the public to know the specific evidence and reasons this engineer had for making his prediction. Alas, he remains unnamed and forgotten by the filmmakers.

Did anyone notice how Peter Hayden...
...hesitated right before he mentioned the "special engineer" almost like he was about to say the person's name, and then thought better forget it.