The Truth About Pearl Harbor

It's 'Pearl Harbor Day'... also see:

Explosive Truth About Pearl Harbor: The Story The Rest Of The Media Won't Tell
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15277

- loose nuke

the contrarian - The Truth About Pearl Harbor
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December 07, 2009 03:17 AM EST

Today lives in infamy, but not for the reasons you’ve been told. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, exactly 68 years ago today, was not an unprovoked, dastardly assault on an unsuspecting nation. It was a carefully orchestrated trap, engineered by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. FDR’s purpose was to overcome domestic opposition to America’s involvement in the European war thousands of miles from the Pacific isles.

A tri-party agreement between Japan, Germany and Italy, executed one year earlier, gave Roosevelt the key he needed to get into Europe through the “back door.” The agreement stipulated that a war against any one of the parties would be considered to be a war against all three.

These facts would still be buried in the dustbin of history but for some sixteen years of work by author Robert Stinnett, uncovering and examining documents under the Freedom of Information Act. His eventual book on the subject is entitled Day of Deceit.

Because of the controversial nature of the information uncovered, Stinnett’s findings were subjected to considerable scrutiny before being endorsed and promoted by the Independent Institute of Washington, D.C., an organization that sponsors studies by top scholars on major policy issues.

The Independent Institute has a reputation for adhering to high standards in its pursuit of the truth, regardless of public opinion, political implications or social considerations.

It’s an indisputable fact of history that, prior to Pearl Harbor, Americans were very much against getting involved in “Europe’s war.” The isolationist movement was spearheaded by, among others, the Hearst newspaper chain, Henry Ford, the American hero, Charles Lindbergh, and many of the nation‘s business and financial leaders, including Prescott Bush, grandfather of ex-President George W. Bush.

It is also clear that Roosevelt feared the threat that Nazi Germany represented to the United States, which presented him with a quandary.

The paper trail that Stinnett uncovered reveals that Roosevelt seized on the “back door” approach to solving his problem and developed a very specific plan to induce Japan into attacking us. The components of the plan are discussed in detail in Stinnett’s book, including the names and ranks of the military personnel directly involved.

The plan involved eight actions designed to accomplish FDR’s purpose. Two of these had the greatest significance.

The one identified in the historic documents as Action F created the plum that FDR dangled before the Japanese hierarchy. It required that the fleet remain bottled up in Pearl Harbor.

The other important directive, identified as Action H, called for the embargo of Japan’s access to resources, including oil, from Southeast Asia. This turned out to be very effective. The president instituted it in July, 1941 and, by doing so, he began to starve Japan of the vital lifeblood it desperately needed to survive. Within months he had literally forced that nation down the last leg of its pathway to war.

Of additional interest, Roosevelt initiated a companion program which involved sending cruisers into Japanese territory to annoy and antagonize that country‘s leaders. Roosevelt called them “pop-up cruises.”

He was quoted in the documents as saying: “I want them popping up here and there, but I don’t want to lose five or six cruisers. I don’t mind losing one or two.” Each cruiser was manned by 900 sailors.

He also apparently didn’t mind losing the 3,000 lives that were claimed by the Japanese raid on Pearl Harbor, in that their sacrifice essentially paved the way for the eventual defeat of Nazi Germany.

Stinnett’s research also confirmed that we had broken Japan’s code, and that the same personnel who were overseeing the grand design for the president were also abreast of Japan’s every move.

The plan, of course, worked perfectly. As we all know, the attack on Pearl Harbor ignited America, and public opinion immediately shifted towards an unprecedented support for the war that carried through to its conclusion.

Only a fraction of the Pearl Harbor survivors lived long enough to learn the truth. There were 20,000 alive in the 1960's, according to the Pearl Harbor Survivors Association, but today they number less than 3,000.

If there is a lesson to be learned here, it is perhaps that, even in an advanced society such as ours, we should always be on the alert for efforts intended to shape our opinions by manipulative means. And, it should not escape our attention that the mainstream media is likely to be a vital partner in the process.

Dave McGill, News Correspondent

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http://www.independent.org/issues/article.asp?id=1431


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

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That talks about how the "old Pearl Harbor" was "a carefully orchestrated trap," helps people gain perspective on just what their Government is capable of, and helps them look at the "New Pearl Harbor" in a different light.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

i agree

the parallels between the original and the new Pearl Harbor are striking and forever relevant to 9/11 investigations.

From what Bush wrote in his diary on 9/11, to information amounting to foreknowledge in the possession of policy makers and those charged w/ the nation's defense, to the steps taken to leave defenses open, to obstruct defensive measures, to cut people out of the loop, to set people up as scapegoats, to the way the event was used to rouse the public to support a war in support of unstated objectives, to the failure of official investigations to result in accountability even though documents in the official records demonstrate culpability, to the way a false picture is presented in media and history books. Etc.

For a long time now, 911blogger has covered issues related to historical precedents for 9/11, and the post-9/11 world. I think it's good.

thanks for that link to the Independent.org, Jon- fascinating archive

http://911reports.com
http://www.historycommons.org

Did you know...

The PNAC made a comparison to Pearl Harbor when addressing 9/11, and our reaction to it?

Are we as a nation safer for having invaded Iraq? Was the decision to remove Saddam from power after 9-11 a step forward in the war on terror, or not? The answer is yes.

Is the answer absolutely, yes? Of course not. Wars don't work that way. Did the decision by the country to wage war on both Japan and Germany in the wake of Pearl Harbor make the U.S. safer at first? No. Even after critical successes at Midway, in North Africa and Italy, thousands of Americans still lost their lives. The war had to be won, and the cost was high precisely because our enemies knew it was going to be a fight to the death. And Americans understood that security could not be had in a piecemeal fashion given the nature of the enemies we faced.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

i didn't know that!

this is the kind of thing i love about the comments section- you learn all kinds of new stuff

And i see that i totally forgot PNAC's famous PRE-9/11 comment when i was listing parallels:

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event
– like a new Pearl Harbor. interests or that of its allies in space or the “infosphere” will find it difficult to exert global political leadership." (51)
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Additional relevant links- the ones at wiki are especially revealing in the way stuff is presented on the main page vs. the Talk page- it's a starting point:

Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge debate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_debate

Day of Deceit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_deceit

McCollum Memo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo

The McCollum Memo: The Smoking Gun of Pearl Harbor
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/McCollum/index.html
"9. It is not believed that in the present state of political opinion the United States government is capable of declaring war against Japan without more ado; and it is barely
possible that vigorous action on our part might lead the Japanese to modify their attitude. Therefore, the following course of action is suggested:"

[Steps A-H]

"10. If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better. At all events we must be fully prepared to accept the threat of war."

The Business Plot- coup attempt by fascists against FDR, a liberal elitist who was trying to save capitalism from its worst abuses, as he believed it was in the greater public interest- Congress 'investigated', but his DOJ apparently did not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_plot

In a letter from FDR to Col. Edward Mandell House: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson — and I am not wholly excepting the Administration of W. W. The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States — only on a far bigger and broader basis."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

http://911reports.com
http://www.historycommons.org

thanks for at least commenting

I really dislike when anyone gets minus votes without comment or explanation by those voting.

good timing?

Anyone remember the movie "Pearl Harbor" with Ben Afleck a few years back. Actually, it came out in the summer of 2001, a couple months before 9/11. One could say that it was a convenient bit of timing for re-installing the tragedy in everyone's collective memory...

"The Imperial Cruise"

Readers who have gotten through Robert Stinnett's book and are looking for something with a longer (and possibly wiser) overview of American imperialism are encouraged to check out the new Robert Bradley book, "The Imperial Cruise"

Additionally, Bradley contributed this recent op/ed piece in the New York Times.

Briefly, here's how Bradley's op/ed commences:

"SIXTY-EIGHT years ago tomorrow, Japan attacked the American naval base at Pearl Harbor. In the brutal Pacific war that would follow, millions of soldiers and civilians were killed. My father — one of the famous flag raisers on Iwo Jima — was among the young men who went off to the Pacific to fight for his country. So the war naturally fascinated me. But I always wondered, why did we fight in the Pacific? Yes, there was Pearl Harbor, but why did the Japanese attack us in the first place?

In search of an answer, I read deeply into the diplomatic history of the 1930s, about President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s policy on Asia, and his preparation — or lack thereof — for a major conflict there. But I discovered that I was studying the wrong President Roosevelt. The one who had the greater effect on Japan’s behavior was Theodore Roosevelt — whose efforts to end the war between Japan and Russia earned him the Nobel Peace Prize."

_Continues at website_

Pearl Harbor

It just goes to show you that our so-called Government has been corrupt for quite a long time. Pearl Harbor was no different than 9/11. FDR knew about it and provoked it. Just another NWO ass-hole like Bush, Obama and the rest of them. People better start to wake-up fast while we still have a country. (Unless you want to be a Borg, like in Star Trek) All you have to do is look around you. No jobs, people loosing their homes, more wars etc. I think it's time we start living by the Constitution and Bill of Rights even if it means we have to take our country back by force. I hate violence but like JFK said "Those who make peaceful revolutions impossible will make violent revolutions inevitable." Sad but true.

WARNING about advocacy of violence at 911Blogger

9-11 Joe: "I think it's time we start living by the Constitution and Bill of Rights even if it means we have to take our country back by force. I hate violence but like JFK said "Those who make peaceful revolutions impossible will make violent revolutions inevitable." Sad but true."

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Certainly, greedy, insulated elites should heed JFK's observation. Probably some of them are wondering if their gated communities and private security forces can protect them, and if their media, political and economic monopoly can continue to serve them as it has. They would do well, imho, to quit distorting truth and history, quit obstructing justice and progress, and start competing on a level playing field.

Are Americans Too Broken for the Truth to Set Us Free?
http://www.counterpunch.org/levine12042009.html

I'm not in favor of violent action; it's illegal, immoral and and ineffective- it would be perceived as illegitimate in the eyes of the world. A large % of Americans are still unaware of the extent of the Establishment's corruption. Another large % believe nothing can be done. Many people continue to watch TV and vote in large numbers for Democrats and Republicans- if they're going to do that, they're not going to participate in a violent revolution- or perceive one as legitimate- even if it is successful against the National Guard and domestically deployed Military- in an age when all communications can be monitored anywhere, anytime, w/o a warrant.

The Establishment's hold on power is largely illegitimate- and as people increasingly realize this, their power erodes- it may collapse. It may be this fake economic recovery is going to 'double dip'. The number of people turning to the web for news and looking for alternative solutions continues to increase. The powerful and corrupt elites in charge of the system most fear truth, disclosure and people ceasing to buy into or cooperate with their rigged game- they're not afraid of a violent revolution.

Another reason to avoid taking violent action- or advocating it- Feds are apparently actively seeking to incite violence:

Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A5GCC80&show_article=1
"Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations"

Also see Brandon Darby- FBI informant and RNC provocateur
http://www.brandondarby.com/

http://911reports.com
http://www.historycommons.org

Trust me

I am not promoting violence of any kind. I am just being honest and stating the facts. I would love to see a peaceful revolution but I am a realist. What JFK said is true. No one hates violence more than I do and I surely would not promote it. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers Loose Nuke.

The Natives Are Getting Restless

Violent Revolutions are rare, and we should hope that they remain so. But when we see the Democrats and Republicans joined at the hip in the corrupt interests of criminal corporations, one has to wonder where the Democracy is heading.

This autumn I discovered a decidedly "Cut-Above-The-Rest" blogger pseudonymously named the Epicurian Dealmaker. He's an investment banker by trade. He's just started a blog called "The New Decembrists" and I was gratified to see him quoting the Soviet Union and International Communism's anthem, The Internationale"

http://newdecembrists.blogspot.com/2009/12/about.html

Forward, comrades! We have nothing to lose but our chains!

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For those inclined to be extremely useless and pointless wimps, aka liberals, here's a wonderful evisceration of your useless kind:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/liberals_are_useless_20091206/

As I see it, Jack Kennedy was not advocating violent revolution, but noting that in the absence of a society being able to morally reform itself that revolution is inevitable. I'd suggest we are tiptoeing a little bit close to that edge.

The Circle

Zelikow, Pearl harbor, PNAC, 911. How interesting that they line up so.

Tora! Tora! Tora!

Here's a fact that I bet you guys don't know. The Japanese Imperial Naval code (JN-25) was actually based on a similar code used by the United States Marines! The Marines used it from circa 1900-1917. Guess why the Marines stopped using it? Because the code was too easy to decipher! True story.

Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief DNotice.org
Washington, DC