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Ventura’s ‘Conspiracy Theory’ show probes 9/11 mysteries covered by RAW STORY

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/venturas-conspiracy-theory-show-probes-911/
By Stephen C. Webster
Saturday, December 12th, 2009

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura has seen some stuff that will blow your mind.

Or, at least that's the tagline to "Conspiracy Theory," his new show on US cable station TruTV. In episode two, the one-time wrestler and movie star goes after one of America's greatest sacred cows: the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

It is, as far as this reporter can tell, the first time a syndicated program on U.S. cable has given a serious look at arguments made by members of the 9/11 truth movement.

In the show, Ventura speaks to key 9/11 truth figures such as former BYU professor Steven Jones and William Rodriguez, a nationally-acclaimed hero credited with saving dozens as he tried to escape from the World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11.

Ventura explores theories ranging from the missing black box recorders to the possibility that previously-planted explosives brought down the WTC towers.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology, which investigated the WTC tower collapses, maintains there was no recovered evidence of explosive materials. An electronic FAQ to the government's theory is available online.

Almost without saying, the program leans heavily toward the conspiratorial-minded. Yet for many viewers, this may be their first exposure to such claims.

According to a TruTV press release, "Conspiracy Theory" hit the airwaves with the brunt of 1.6 million viewers, driving an 82% increase in the network's viewership over 2008. In only its second week, "Conspiracy Theory" is TruTV's most successful new show launch yet.

These videos are from Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory". (Part 1)

(Part 2)

(Part 3)

(Part 4)

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To make it go viral and capture another million viewers, if only to allow more people to gain access to SOME of the 9/11 truth movement's information.

I hope it results in more and more people getting active, to expand our vitally important historical movement, and flat out rejection of the Zelikow public myth of 9/11 in history, so that future generations might learn something of value from it, and to help stop the wars which are justifed in the name of 9/11 (see Obama's Nobel Prize Speech for more on that).
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Kudos to Jesse Ventura for

Kudos to Jesse Ventura for putting this on.. He is a great voice for 9/11truth and its a great primer for the uninitiated as regards the shortfalls (read impossibility) of the official story. However, there are a couple of glaring errors, which is a shame: the first is where one supposed "expert" in aviation matters talks about the "NTSA" (he mentions "NTSA" on two occasions) when he was obviously referring to the NTSB. (!) The 2nd is the allegation by an interviewee that "hijackers were already on board and in the cockpit before the flights took off". This is so far beyond unlikely... the alleged hijackers had never flown commercial 757s and 767s at level cruising altitude, let alone successfully taken off. Furthermore, the flight-deck crews were regulars on those routes and would have known the ATC personnel in the control tower, probably on a first name basis... thick middle-eastern accents should have raised some form of suspicion, as should the almost certainty that the alleged hijackers would not have known how to conduct all the pre-flight checks...

I hope Jesse Ventura's show hasn't been infiltrated by disinfo hacks.

I think you're missing something ESSENTIAL here...

Bloggulator, you say, re,
"the allegation by an interviewee that "hijackers were already on board and in the cockpit before the flights took off"".....
You say,
"This is so far beyond unlikely... the alleged hijackers had never flown commercial 757s and 767s.... Furthermore, the flight-deck crews were regulars on those routes and would have known the ATC personnel in the control tower, probably on a first name basis... etc."

I think you're missing something ESSENTIAL here...
Think.... WAR GAME EXERCISES.
You're assuming that any such "terrorists" (in this scenario) would have been real, i.e. entities that airport security, the pilots, etc. would have guarded against. But what if these "terrorists" were part of a war-game exercise? What if they were brought onto the planes with the full knowledge of the pilots and SOMEONE in ATC, (not necessarily the ones handling the plane).
I trust you know that there were multiple war games going on that morning, some involving hijackings... false radar blips, etc.
Perhaps you know that the London bombings also took place at the same time and same train stations where an anti-terrorist "exercise" was taking place.
This is a standard pattern.
The intelligence agencies recruit Muslims and those of Arabic descent to train as terrorists, (under the guise of doing something patriotic for their adopted country and getting paid well...)
If this was a part of an exercise, this would explain a lot... as to why experienced pilots never pushed the emergency (hijack) button.
Sounds believable to me.
Though it may sound absurd at first to the uninformed observer on the street, all you have to mention is 'War Games Exercises" and it makes perfect sense.

Excellent debate raging over there

in the comments section.

Please post, as a member or as a guest there when you have the opportunity, but present really compelling evidence without too much mud slinging, and we'll continue to utterly dominate and triumph in the debate, as our side has so far.

The whole climate really has changed, thanks to the Internet. We are no longer a fringe element - the OCT Myth supporters are now. THEY are now the "tinfoil" hat wearing loons, for supporting and trying to defend the indefensible!

Good work all! Keep it up.
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the need to dumb it down???

We all know that the Governor is sincere in his expressed interest on the 911 subject matter but are these scenes in his war room, dispatching "investigators" to remote locations to uncover truth not shameful? Perhaps the show's producers really do have their finger on the pulse of the public's catatonic state that they should try to package this "investigation" with bad acting. Maybe that's where we've all gone wrong all these years by trying to simply talk about the facts. It's bad acting that America has been craving, not the facts.

Las Cruces, NM

Ironic observation

Good point. I understand and appreciate your sardonic sense of humor.

I would simply add that there are many ways of contributing to the truth... some do it with visual effects, bad acting, cheesy soundtracks -which are technically less-honest, more-manipulative than... say... Richard Gage standing in front of a screen with a pointy stick; but they're still presenting far more truth than deception.

If people like Richard Gage, Griffin, Jones, and thousands of other careful researchers were not doing what they do, Jesse's contribution would go nowhere; but because there's an ocean of solid evidence out there... it's going to make the millions of TV-landers question more ('cause Jesse says so and he's cool); and maybe they'll do some more research on their own.

So I wouldn't say "we've all gone wrong" with our focus on the facts. We should just not think that facts alone are sufficient. There are other people who will contribute different energies and get certain results, (like Alex Jones ranting, screaming, pounding his fist); and we should keep on doing what we do, which is careful, factual research.

That's always the foundation of REAL change.

JV is doing some good work.

We need him to work more openly and visibly with Richard Gage and co.

AE911Truth can do with a MAJOR BOOST in Publicity in the United States itself.

Jesse may be the key in achieving that.

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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

My Raw Story Comment

Contrary to what Popular Mechanics claims about NORAD (that NORAD monitored aircraft over American skies that originated outside of America only), NORAD and the Air Force says they didn't monitor the airspace of the United States at all on 9/11:

In 2004 the Air Force said, "Before 2001, 1st Air Force was charged with keeping an eye on the nation’s borders, usually looking for threats in the form of Russian aircraft skirting too close for comfort to the mainland. In those few hours, the command’s mission went from looking outward to looking inward."

In 2008 NORAD said, "Since the tragic events of 9/11, NORAD’s role which previously was outward-looking now includes monitoring airspace within North America."

However, in 1997 NORAD contradictorily said they insure, "Aircraft flying over our air space are monitored seven days a week, 24 hours a day."

And the April 2000 Air Force Instruction on air defense, as in effect on 9/11/01, said, "The First Air Force Commander...provides SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL OF THE AIRSPACE OF THE UNITED STATES..."

Popular Mechanics and the military should get their stories straight on NORAD! As it is, we have caught Popular Mechanics and the military lying about NORAD's true capabilities on 9/11.

Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief DNotice.org
Washington, DC

Very Good! Mine:

Joe 5 hours ago 1 person liked this.
I find it amazing and disconcerting that with all the evidence piling up there are still people who deny their senses and reason to support the "Official" conspiracy Theory where 19 Arabs with box cutters get lucky.

Admitting that you were conned is too difficult for some people.

Look at some of the evidence presented on WTC7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HetCLca2fbw

Dan Rather Says Black Box RECOVERED

I believe Joe already posted the clip of Dan Rather reporting that Rudy Guiliani recovered one of the Black Boxes at the WTC, but I'll post it again since it proves someone is lying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_RbtEkjqIU

Rudy in the Spotlight:
1) He tells ABC that he knew the towers would be coming down.
2) He told CBS that he found one of the Black Boxes.
3) He told Congress that fires were still burning at 2000 degrees F. below the ground weeks later.

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Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

Van Romero

He says, ". . . Does it burn long enough and hot enough, so that we have structural failure (?)" He frames this as a question although there is no clear indication it is one.

I wonder about this because we don't get to see the final effect of the ignited superthermite paint on the beam. Did this part of the video get edited out for some reason? Either way, even if the superthermite ultimately did not completely sever the beam, it's clear that under the right conditions, it stands a much better chance of doing so than fire ever could.

Perhaps an email to Van Romero is in order. He may be willing to provide the complete video.

The problem is:

The nanothermite that the Bentham paper discusses is different from what was presented on the show. The Bentham paper makes it clear that nanothermite is a highly sophisticated substance that CAN NOT be made with household materials in the basement. Also, the nanothermite discovered by Jones, Harritt, and company is an EXPLOSIVE, not a mere incendiary.

What Romero showed was either regular thermite (the "paint" being a mere placebo) or possibly some sort of thermate (extra sulfur). Both are incendiaries, not explosives.

This was the segment of the show that gave me the most suspicion in terms of the show being "compromised."

New Mexico Tech might have nanothermite

I thought I heard Van Romero say he was using nanothermite and New Mexico Tech is an energetics laboratory and could conceivably have nanothermite.

It is clear from the American Chemical Society that it wasn't just military labs that were doing research on it.

A report from The 221st National Meeting of the American Chemical Society held during April 2001 in San Diego made the below comment:

"At this point in time, all of the military services and some DOE and academic laboratories have active R&D programs aimed at exploiting the unique properties of nanomaterials that have potential to be used in energetic formulations for advanced explosives. Nanoenergetics hold promise as useful ingredients for the thermobaric (TBX) and TBX-like weapons, particularly due to their high degree of tailorability with regards to energy release and impulse management. The feature of “impulse management” may be significant. It is possible that formulations may be chosen to have just sufficient percussive effect to achieve the desired fragmentation while minimizing the noise level."

Nanothermite is tailorable as far as it's brisance by varying particle size. Additionally, some energetic materials like gun powder need containment to quickly generate very high pressures and become explosive, otherwise they just burn. In the case of the open air placement on the beam the nanothermite burned but it was obviously quite energetic.

I think all that can be said of the nanothermite for now is that it is a potential explosive and certainly an energetic material and did not belong in the WTC dust. That in and of itself is cause for an investigation of how it got there and who would have put it in the buildings.

Superthermite vs nanothermite?

Van Romero states he will mix up some "super-thermite.", Are the two terms synonymous? He certainly tried to downplay its effectiveness on the beam I think, but we don't know much about this experiment, such as the strength of the mixture and the amount that was applied to the beam. Applied on only one side? The fact he made some up goes 10 times further than the Nat Geo Hit piece and openly shows that it exists. What I would have liked to have seen is a comparison of the reaction and molten substance in the experiment to the stuff puring out of tower 2 just before it came down. A nice side by side. The color and texture and identical quashing any notion that it might be aluminum pouring out of the building which is laughable IMO.

peace

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If you search Wikipedia

I admit that Wikipedia is not the best source, but if you look up nanothermite, it says that the two terms are interchangable. There is a paper from Los Alamos explaining the experiments with nanothermite and the various ways they were able to suspend the chemicals in a solution and turn it into a gel or a paste and how this stabilizes the compound for later detonation. The idea of mixing it into paint was born at Los Alamos in these papers and the technique was perfected as well. Van Romero deserves huge kudos for even acknowledging this and demonstrating that it is possible to make a solution that can be painted on and ignited later, excellent proof of concept.

The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry

Curious as to the ratings - how many watched?

I believe the first episode brought 1.6 million viewers - largest ever for TruTV. Anyone heard anything about this one?

GOOD QUESTION. I HAVE NOT HEARD

If Not Me? Who? If Not Now? When?
http://www.northtexas911truth.com/

Still looking for those figures

But the initial episode did raise the ratings across the board for the channel, and it appears to have a broad appeal;

"CONSPIRACY THEORY scored tremendous growth compared to the same time period last year, with total viewers up 82%, adults 18-34 up 33%, adults 18-49 up 66%, adults 25-54 up 67%, men 18-34 up 84%, men 18-49 up 74% and men 25-54 up 77%"

Go Jesse, you are making us all hope that we can wake up in a world of truth and not pathetic lies designed to keep us fighting with each other.

The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry