Rudy Giuliani, Back When He Remembered 9/11

Source: The Washington Independent
By David Weigel 1/8/10 12:43 PM
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I’m still in shock over former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s comment that “we had no domestic attacks under Bush.” Is it possible that he meant to add “after 9/11″ and slipped up? I don’t know — forgetting to mention 9/11 is not a problem he’s had in the past.

I think Jake Tapper, on Twitter, is on to something when he suggests that Giuliani is one of many conservative who start the clock on the Bush presidency on 9/11. A smart conservative demand from President Obama right now might be that he “start the clock” on his anti-terror policy with the failed Christmas bombing. But that’s not what Giuliani’s doing here — he implies (as many Bush apologists do) that an attack that occurred nine months into the Bush presidency was Bill Clinton’s fault, while an attack that occurred 12 months into the Obama presidency was all Obama’s fault. He’s taking the right amount of flak.

He should...

Make a public apology to all of the 9/11 Families that goes something like, "I'm sorry that I'm a political hack that belongs in prison. 9/11 did happen under George Bush's watch."

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

You are so right Jon.

He does belong in prison. He is nothing but a pure scum-bag. In my mind he is just as guilty of pulling off 9/11 as the Neocons. I have no idea how these people can live with themselves. I guess they are dead inside.

Former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino.

Dana Perino tried to push this same revision of history on Fox News earlier as well.

Hitler used to talk about rewriting history and repeating big lies like this.

Update: George Stephanopoulos admits 'mistake' in not challenging Rudy's 'no attacks under Bush' claim

This is the same type of crappy journalism during the run up to the Iraq war that led so many people to believe that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. These lies.

GOP strategist Mary Matalin

Not to forget GOP strategist Matalin, one week ago:

Rudy G is



I'm so sick of these people. I think this country needs a political and bureaucratic enema. Nuff said.

Huffington Post also caught it..

"Rudy Giuliani has joined fellow Republicans Dana Perino and Mary Matalin in seeming to forget that the September 11th attacks happened under President Bush.

Not only does the statement suggest Giuliani does not remember the devastating attack in his own city, it also omits the anthrax attacks and the attempted shoe bomber attack."

Media Matters also calls them out...

Bush defenders now totally erasing his administration's 9-11 failures | Rudy Guiliani, Dana Perino, & Mary Matalin somehow forget 9/11 happened under Bush/Cheney

Revising historical records.

It's all part of the larger Orwellian nightmare.

"In the Ministry of Truth (Minitrue), protagonist Winston Smith is a civil servant responsible for perpetuating the Party's propaganda by revising historical records to render the Party omniscient and always correct."

nullius in verba.

Par for the course

Yes, this is just like Winston Smith--but at least in this case most people are alert to the preposterousness of the claim. If only that were so of other instances of Orwellian revisionism where the truth of 9/11 is concerned--such as the claim that it was only after 9/11 that the U.S. Air Force was charged with the mission of watching and safeguarding the air space over the U.S.

Many are familiar with the quote which journalist Ron Suskind attributed to an unnamed Bush administration official in 2004: '"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

It's quite apparent that these political operatives do not believe their reality-creating powers are limited to 'acting,' but also extend to whatever public statements they make (or whatever revisions they might make ex-post-facto on government websites).

Giuliani knew beforehand, and admitted as such.

Not only did 9/11 happen under Bush's watch; Giuliani also slipped up, possibly unintentionally in an interview with ABC's Petter Jennings, indicating prior knowledge that the WTC "was going to come down" despite the fact that there was no historical record of any building failing purely as a result of an airplane impact and a resulting fire. at around the 2 minute mark. Who told him this information, and why did he not instruct all the FDNY, Port Authority and NYPD personnel to get out of those buildings ASAP? As such, Giuliani is *at the very least* criminally negligent in not doing his duty as mayor. He should be considered a suspect regarding of prior knowledge of the nature of the plot, thus being *accessory before the fact*, or accomplice, to the mass murder of 3000+ people.

Rudy Giuliani needs to be deposed under oath

The only interviews which should be done with Rudy Giuliani are the type where the interviewee is under oath and asked a slew of hard questions relating to their behavior and comments regarding the actual events of Sept. 11, 2001.

Questions like:

Who told him the towers were going to collapse and why didn't he order an immediate withdrawal from both towers?

Why did he insist on building his emergency bunker on the 23rd floor of WTC 7 over the objections of the NYC police and fire departments?

Why didn't he use his emergency bunker in WTC 7 when the towers were first hit and prior to them coming down?

Why would his office put out word that WTC 7 appeared to be a lost cause at 12:30 PM on Sept. 11, 2001, when there was no photographic evidence of fire in WTC 7 until shortly before that at 12:15 PM? Did his office influence fire chiefs not to fight the fires in WTC 7 by saying it was a lost cause and did they bring up the possibility that it was going to collapse.

Why did he let his police commissioner go in the year before Sept. 11, 2001 and install someone who did not have a college degree and didn't appear to be qualified for that position such as Bernard Kerik, over the objections of more than half of his cabinet?

Why did his administration ship over 99.5% of the steel from the Twin Towers and all of the steel from WTC 7 to foreign countries where it was smelted down prior to investigators having a chance to forensically examine and analyze it and over the objections of a number of prominent fire investigators? Why wasn't the steel simply saved off site for use in the investigation?

Why did he remove the responsibility for emergency management from the NYC police department and create a new Office of Emergency Management?

How did he come to hire Jerome Hauer as his first director of the new Office of Emergency Management?

What role did Jerome Hauer play in deciding to build the OEM bunker on the 23rd floor of WTC 7?

Of course, there are probably many more that smart investigators can think of but these would be a start.

It was a deliberate slip up.

Giuliani said it the way he did for two reasons: First, to serve the moment at which it was said, it was propaganda. Then later, when confronted, he can claim he slipped up and forgot to add "after 9/11."

Rudi Is absolutly correct. if...

Rudi is correct if knows 911 was a false flag operation and he does do not define false flag operations as terrorist attacks. Maybe the way he defines things is the reason he can say this with a straight face. He is not senile, and he knows that 9/11 happed under G.W.B. so you might call it a Freudian slip.