New York Times: "Ahmadinejad Calls 9/11 ‘A Big Fabrication"

This story, which is currently visible from the home page of The New York Times, is accepting comments, which currently are running five to one anti-truth. The NY Times has an enormous readership, so please get over there and post some educational comments!

Sheila

Ahmadinejad Calls 9/11 ‘A Big Fabrication’
By ROBERT MACKEY

Perhaps concerned that his repeated suggestions that the Holocaust might not have happened have become less shocking over time, Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad upped the ante on Saturday, telling intelligence officials in Tehran that the destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 was staged.

In remarks reported by IRNA, an official Iranian news agency, and translated by Reuters, Mr. Ahmadinejad said, “The September 11 incident was a big fabrication as a pretext for the campaign against terrorism and a prelude for staging an invasion against Afghanistan.” Mr. Ahmadinejad also reportedly described the attacks in New York as a “complicated intelligence scenario and act.” Conspiracy theorists in the Middle East have suggested that the attacks were not the work of Al Qaeda, but carried out by Israeli or American intelligence operatives.

In a speech during Iran’s annual anti-Israel day in September, Mr. Ahmadinejad said of the Holocaust, “The pretext for the creation of the Zionist regime is false.” He added: “It is a lie based on an unprovable and mythical claim.”

full story here.

Here's my comment to the New York Times

Many average citizens have looked into 9/11 and have indeed concluded, like Ahmadinejad, that the official story of 9/11 is a big lie. From the demolition of all THREE buildings at the World Trade Center (go to youtube and watch a video of WTC7 collapsing if you're not familiar) to the lack of large scale wreckage of any airliner debris at the Pentagon, to the same strange lack of wreckage in Shanksville PA, the official story of 9/11 is a farce at all levels. If you're near a Barnes and Noble or Borders store, please do yourself a favor, pick up a copy of \"New Pearl Harbor Revisited\" by David Ray Griffin, and take it to the cafe and start reading it. I guarantee you'll end up buying it because he demolishes, in a very thorough and scholarly fashion, the official story of 9/11. Also read \"The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7\" by the same author.

Over 1100 architectural and engineering professionals have signed the petition at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org), rejecting the official explanation of the WTC collapse and demanding of congress a truly independent investigation.

Not just architects and engineers either; there are lawyers, firefighters, intelligence officers, former Asst. Secretaries of the Treasury, pilots, air traffic controllers, veterans, and many more who have united via the internet to oppose the Big Lie which is the official story.

Of course, the casual citizen might not be aware of these numerous groups because the mainstream media doesn't mention them. No, they only seem to mention the mentally unstable violent people like the Pentagon shooter, or when the person is the leader of an \"enemy country.\"

Investigate 9/11!!!

9/11 Truth NOW!

Time to Speak Up

Well-worded comments, Adam. We have the opportunity to speak up at NYTimes, CNN and other places. If Kos and HuffPo run this story they will have to deal with us too. They won't be able to enforce their own embargo!

Nice post Adam.

Check out all of the comments about this on Yahoo News. (I responded to the comments of one Grandma Harris - LOL)

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100306/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran#mwpphu-container

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Good Headline...

Great comment, I posted one too...

... let's see if they get published.

Happy to report: My comment was accepted !!

See it at this link

Definition of a "conspiracy theory":
Nineteen amateur pilots who could barely fly single-engine Cesnas, lead by a cave-dwelling Muslim on kidney dialysis, commandeer four commercial jumbo-jets with box-cutters and fly them into US targets with pin-point accuracy while causing the entire US military to stand-down for an hour & 20 minutes. In NY, three massive concrete and steel buildings are spontaneously blown to smithereens mid-air and melted, collapsing into the path of most resistance at free-fall speed, defying the laws of physics.

The Pentagon, however, oddly remained standing when hit by the same fuel-filled jet plane.
The fundamental laws of physics contradict the US government's explanation of the events of 9/11. Osama bin Laden has never been indicted for any of the crimes of 9/11. It was a false flag operation, deliberately planned to create the impetus for an endless war.
Go to: ae911truth dot com

Wow

You guys don't waste time. I just spotted the article on the front page of Yahoo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100306/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran This is GREAT NEWS!!! Pretty soon the whole world will know the truth. I just love reading articles like that. My day is made. By the way what is this code crap? I hate that. I can never make the letters and numbers out. I see no purpose in it.

Yeah I agree...

I've screwed up a few of those codes myself. (Like when I first tried to post this response. I can't always tell capital letters from lowercase.) Does 911Blogger have a problem of spam comment posters?

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

My guess

is that the team is considering allowing anonymous comments once again, like in the early days of the site?

I think they're in the process of updating the system as I type, because I logged out and as of a few minutes ago, you still have to log in to post comments.

But the CAPTCHA should be reserved only for the anonymous ones, because for those of us who have an account, logging in is itself proof that we're not a spambot.

Other differences

It appears that comments will remain visible no matter how many down-votes they receive--or at least, it will take more than three down-votes to have them not show, because I saw one with a minus three in another thread that was still showing.

I don't have a problem with that change. And I agree with you that I'm not crazy about having to enter these codes each time. I think it's the capital i's, lower-case L's, and number 1s that give me the most trouble.

Another difference I've noticed which I definitely do not like is that when I vote on comments now, the screen refreshes itself entirely each time. And once that happens, previousy unread comments will no longer be differentiated from those that have been read before. To find the ones I haven't read, it's then necessary to look for the date and time at the bottom of each comment. It was better before!

(OK--what code must I enter to post THIS comment?...)

I agree about the comments

I agree that the comments should remain visible regardless of how heavily down voted they are. That is a good change. The way it used to be, it tended to foster this "tyranny by majority" atmosphere; it reminds me of a scenario whereby a soft spoken person, like Steven Jones, is speaking at a podium delivering cold hard facts, but his voice is being drowned out by a chorus of boos from "flag wavers" in the room who don't like the political implications of his facts. Sometimes unpopular =/= wrong.

The next thing the team should do to improve the comment system is to show the total number of yays and nays a comment receives. In a presidential election, we want to know that 66,882,230 people voted for Obama and that 58,343,671 people voted for McCain, not just Obama's 9 million net lead over McCain. 911blogger's current net total system absolutely breeds political/faction-based voting.

I remember when I made the first comment on a blog entry (and as we all know, the first comment receives the most views and votes) and it netted "0 points." Would be nice to know if 10, or 20, or 50 people voted on it!

Update

The good news (up arrow!) is that it seems we no longer have to enter codes to post a comment.

The bad news (down arrow!) is that now it seems none of the up-or-down votes are being recorded at all now--they're all coming out with zero votes, and when I vote on one, I go back and still reads zero.

Conspiracy theorists ...

"Conspiracy theorists in the Middle East have suggested that the attacks were not the work of Al Qaeda, but carried out by Israeli or American intelligence operatives."

Meanwhile, conspiracy theorists in the Mainstream Media have maintained that the attacks were the work of Al Qaeda, not assisted by Israeli or American intelligence operatives.

So who are we to believe, conspiracy theorists in the Middle East or conspiracy theorists in the Mainstream Media?

Now at CBS, BBC, Huffington post...

This article is making the rounds fast, BBC popped up while I was Googling it. Comments on most sites are nearly 100% anti- Truth. That many idiots or is the anti-truth squads working overtime? I think I know... I'd like to think that the rats are digging their own graves at this point, after the Bedell Pentagon shooting, I saw in the newspaper, "the 9/11 demolitions" as Bedell quote, but he was 'mentally unstable', right? Read the article on him in the San Jose Mercury Press..now I'm finding out about the Col. Sabow case; the CIA running drugs and weapons? I won't believe it, damn conspiracy theories.

Good luck getting in any comments over at these sites, the "moderators' will be having a long night keeping us Truthers out! I'll put off registering to the NYT until tomorrow night, then I'll join in the fun! Hope to see some of you get through, but if you don't expect to, please be sure and inform the 'Moderators' of your opinion as if you're really only talking to them.

It seems like we''re closing in on the promised land, but after the Jane Standley BBC episode, I never get my hopes up too high.

Please Comment at the enemy's websites! It must irritate them at the least.

Iranian President.

Globe & Mail is swamped with comments on this topic.

My second comment added tonight.

One quick glance at the number of comments shows Globe & Mail readers are ready for an investigation; the official conspiracy is not enjoying support of a majority.
Political leaders in the Commons and Senate need to examine the thumbs up, thumbs down ratio here.
All parties, wake up.
Back-benchers speak up.
Canada, demand a criminal investigation.
The Iranian President is not the problem.
The terrorists are still at large.
Let's have some real journalism.

My first comment. Twenty eight people approved; 5 did not.

3/6/2010 3:22:12 PM
Globe & Mail, do your job.
John Farmer, Senior counsel to the 9/11 commission wrote recently that people at some level in the US administration were instructed to lie.
Co-chairs Keane and Hamilton wrote that NORAD and FAA lied about time-lines. Keane and Hamilton suggested perjury charges. NORAD is partly Canadian.
1100 Architects/Engineers demand an investigation; they say the official myth defies the laws of physics. ae9/11truth.org
There are many witnesses stating explosives went off in all three towers.
So rather than posting stories about the Iranian leader, send your investigative journalists to get to the bottom of this, starting with the international team of scientists who have evidence of military grade explosives in the World Trade Center dust.

JUST POSTED THE FOLLOWING

Just posted the following comment to the NYT story.

Has The New York Times reported that numerous scientific peer-reviewed experiments have found high-tech military-grade explosives in the WTC dust?
No.

Has The New York Times reported that, according to Transportation Secretary Norman Minetta’s sworn testimony to the 9/11 Commission, Dick Cheney was tracking flight 77 for more than 15 minutes as it headed for the Pentagon, and took no action to subvert it?
No.

Has The New York Times reported that 1,100 Architects and Engineers are calling for a new investigation based on scientific proof that only explosives could have brought down the three WTC towers in the manner that they fell?
No.

Has The New York Times reported that numerous war games and training exercises, some based on the scenario of airliners crashing into the WTC, were being conducted in NYC on that morning?
No.

Has The New York Times reported on the hundreds, if not thousands of other glaring inconsistencies and mysteries which challenge the government’s official conspiracy theory?
No.

I understand that The New York Times used to be referred to as “the newspaper of record”.
What do we call it now?

Perhaps The New York Times should consider hiring Mr. Ahmadinejad to head up its investigative unit. Whoever holds the position now is clearly taking the paper for a ride.

Short and sweet....

I suggest we leave short messages like the following, linking to ae911Truth.org, on all comment sections with this story.

Most people will not read detailed messages, and even if they don't follow the link, at
least they're being informed that architects, engineers etc. agree with Ahmadinejad:

"Incredible how many people here are still clueless about the fact that
over 1100 architectural and engineering professionals have signed a petition
at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org) demanding a new 9/11 investigation."

OR...

"Does anyone here really believe that anonymous poster's negative comments, with NO links to documentation to
verify their empty claims, carry more weight than architects,structural engineers, physicists,
and many, many more professionals who are calling for a new 9/11 investigation? http://ae911truth.org"

Feel free to cut and paste and/or modify either of the above statements, and post them far and wide with this story

I wonder if you took a worldwide poll

and asked the question. Do you feel more scared or concern about an attack from the US or Iran ? I know what the historical record would imply.

Recommend the comments

I notice that the only comments at the NYT that are heavily recommended are those that support 9/11 truth. They are also the only comments that use facts rather than ad homonym attacks. In reading the comments I discovered that it appears our readers are only looking at the first page of comments because the "recommended" drops off precipitously on the succeeding pages. Supportive comments are 1 out of 3 and the only comments that are highly recommended are supportive - but only on the first couple of pages. Let's blast them with "recommended" on EVERY page of the comments.

Here are the ones I recommended:
4, 6, 21, 25, 28, 29, 41, 42, 53, 56, 57, 60, 61, 64, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70. 71, 74, 76, 79, 82, 83, 84, 86, 87, 92, 97, 99, 101

It's scary when the only one dealing with the truth....

...is a leader on the other side of the globe, while our country lives under a tyranny of lies.

Romney: Obama’s words support 9/11 truthers abroad

http://rawstory.com/2010/03/romney-obamas-supports-911-truthers/

Romney: Obama’s words support 9/11 truthers abroad RAW STORY

By David Edwards and Gavin Dahl
Sunday, March 7th, 2010 -- 1:49 pm

Romney: Obamas words support 9/11 truthers abroadBy speaking to Muslim countries, the president gives support to those who don't believe in the official account of 9/11, says former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

"I saw even Ahmadinejad is now saying 9/11 is a fabrication," Romney told Fox News' Chris Wallace.

"These sorts of voices should not receive any kind of support from the words of the president of the United States."

On what critics are calling a "foreign policy mythology" book tour, Romney is repeatedly spinning several falsehoods about Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.

In Romney's new book "No Apology: The Case for American Greatness" he writes: "President Obama has positioned himself as a figure transcending America instead of defending America... What makes his speeches jump out at his audience are the steady stream of criticisms, put-downs, and jabs directed at the nation he was elected to represent and defend."
Story continues below...

Romney says he's glad the Patriot Act was extended, but Obama's "Apology Tour" was a mistake.

Wallace did not ask Romney about his big bright tan.

This video is from Fox's Fox News Sunday, broadcast March 7, 2010.
Video here: http://rawstory.com/2010/03/romney-obamas-supports-911-truthers/

CNN finally allowing some truth

Iranian president: 9/11 was 'big lie' article on CNN. Add your comments.

LINK: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/03/07/ahmadinejad.afghanistan/index....

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Posted a nanothermite reference on the CNN site

The New York Times never published my post with the same reference.

Disinfo alive and well on CNN comment boards

I think the PTB has become aware of the strategy to post on comment boards that are open and free - like the ones on CNN.

I've been over there a while and it has become apparent to me that there are about a half dozen people whose only job is to pollute the message boards with complete garbage comments. I was thinking that it was only a coincidence but the more time I spend on these boards, the more I am convinced that there is a concerted strategy to fill up any 9/11 related comment board with complete junk comments with the goal of pushing down the rational intelligent comments into the depths. The PTB must have realized that places like CNN are prime locations for lots of people to read and that up til now, these places have been used successfully by 9/11 truthers to get their message out to a broader audience. But based on what I've seen tonight, this may be coming to an end. It's hard to fight against an army of people whose only job is to write one-liner non-sense over and over and over again.

I'd like to ask one of those

I'd like to ask one of those people to their face what it feels like to be an accomplice to mass murder.

Here's my short and sweet:

Ho hum. He's just joining hundreds of senior military, intelligence service, law enforcement, and government officials, more than a thousand engineers and architects, hundreds of pilots and aviation officials, hundreds of professors, hundreds of 9/11 survivors and family members, and hundreds of artists, entertainers, and media professionals who don't believe the official conspiracy theory. Take a look at patriotsquestion911.com where you can read what each of them has to say.

Fred W

Mr. Fujita gettng trashed at Wapo

UGH....another nasty attack on individuals who are standing up for 9/11 truth...
Go here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/07/AR201003...
to read the disgusting "editorial" which consists of puerile name calling and insinuations of insanity.

The following comment was scraped by the NYT on-line editors:

Italy’s former Prime Minister and intelligence insider Francesco Cossiga claimed that the 9/11 terrorist attacks *were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. Apparently, elected President Ahmadinejad now voiced a similar opinion during a meeting of Iranian intelligence officials.

More than 1100 architects and engineers maintain that the three sky-scrapers in New-York must have been taken down by pre-positioned controlled demolition on 9/11. www.AE911Truth.org )
It is quite amazing how the official version, which disregards many laws of physics, is still believed by so many people. The February 2010 issue of American Behavioral Scientist is devoted to analyzing why so many citizens (all over the world!) have difficulty in recognizing the patterns of State Crimes Against Democracy. It is an important read!

Look for: www.abs.sagepub.com/content/vol53/issue6

* http://current.com/items/88263971_ex-italian-prime-minister-9-11-carried-out-by-cia-and-mossad.htm

"unflinching, unswerving, fierce intellectual determination, as citizens, to define the real truth of our lives and our societies is a crucial obligation which devolves upon us all. It is in fact mandatory. If such a determination is not embodied in our political vision we have no hope of restoring what is so nearly lost to us - the dignity of man." (Harold Pinter)

Probably because

they feel it's not directly relevant to the article about the Iranian leader, Ahmadinejad?

I believe it is more the fact that

It is more like : “rant all you want, citizen lambda, but do not come here with any valuable news item that we choose not to cover, because our readers should get the news from US, not from the on-line comments.”

The Cossiga quote contains the word Mossad, and this is more or less automatically censured away from all American main-stream media.

Former Prime Minister’s Cossiga’s remark is directly relevant to President Ahmadinejad’s statement, since Cossiga says this is “common knowledge among global intelligence agencies”, and Ahmadinejad’s opinion was voiced during a meeting with Iranian intelligence officials.

At the time in 2007 that Cossiga made the statement, I was also a bit uncomfortable with the wording of Mossad, as I at the time estimated Israel’s role as minor compared to that of the Pentagon and the US deep-State COG-group close to Rumsfeld, Cheney and intellectuals like Zelikow, eager to consolidate more firm Executive power, and enact "full spectrum dominance" as envisioned in the PNAC. I thought the MI-6 would be more deeply involved than the Mossad. As a matter of fact though, the planners of Israel’s “A Clean Break” policy were brewing on both sides of the Atlantic long before we were talking about the PNAC, so it would be an error to underestimate the role played by interest groups outside the United States like these.

I just read this article from Voltaire.net http://www.voltairenet.org/article164394.html which reminded me of how strong the Silverstein – Netanyahu connection was. We must not leave any stone unturned in our pursuit to find out the truth.

Best regards from Brussels,

"unflinching, unswerving, fierce intellectual determination, as citizens, to define the real truth of our lives and our societies is a crucial obligation which devolves upon us all. It is in fact mandatory. If such a determination is not embodied in our political vision we have no hope of restoring what is so nearly lost to us - the dignity of man." (Harold Pinter)