The Propaganda Against David Ray Griffin's Tour Continues.

9-11 Conspiracy Theorist Hits the Road

Posted By Mark D. Tooley On April 23, 2010 @ 12:00 am In FrontPage | 62 Comments

Infamous 9-11 conspiracy theorist David Ray Griffin, whose books insist the Bush Administration and not al Qaeda blew up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, is launching a speaking tour this week to help merge the “9-11 Truth Movement” with “more traditional Peace and Anti-War groups” against the “illegal and immoral war” in Afghanistan.

The tour also presages Griffin’s next book, Cognitive Infiltration: An Obama Appointee’s Plan to Undermine the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory. This volume will make much hay over an Obama White House official’s article in 2008 as a Harvard law professor, suggesting that the government actively rebut conspiracy theories by networking on social websites.

Griffin is a philosopher emeritus at the United Methodist Church’s Claremont Seminary in California and espouses “process theology,” which asserts that God is constantly evolving. His Center for Process Studies is located at Claremont. Process theology also posits that history has no destination and that good and evil, often manifest through endless conspiracies transcending generations, are perpetually in conflict, since even God lacks full authority.

Prodigiously, Griffin has been churning out 9-11 conspiracy books since 2004, asserting that U.S. agencies contrived a false flag terrorist attack through controlled demolitions. His first conspiracy potboiler was The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11. Griffin believes that U.S. history is primarily a long catalogue of conspiracies across two centuries to facilitate American imperialism and aggression. Griffin faults the United States for killing hundreds of millions of people globally through its economic, military and environmental crimes, making the U.S. more murderous than the old Soviet Empire or the Third Reich.

It’s a heavy burden for Griffin to reveal the largely hidden truth about an endlessly genocidal America, when the cover-up, involving hundreds of thousands of conspirators across many generations has been so successful. But Griffin, a distinguished looking white haired man with a calm and measured demeanor in his public appearances, is persevering with his prolific writing and frequent speeches. His latest speaking tour starts April 23 at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa and will take him to 14 other American and Canadian universities, churches and community centers, where eager truth seekers will gather for Griffin to unwrap the long hidden truth.

“The physical evidence is so strong for the destruction of the World Trade Center by explosives that we’re really on level of truth now not conjecture,” Griffin calmly reported on a recent English language Russian cable network, citing “massive evidence compiled by scientists, architects and engineers.” There is simply “no other possibility” but “massive scientific fraud,” he declared. Of the innumerable conspirators, he surmised: “They lied and they lied and they lied.”

Why did the Bush Administration stage 9-11? Griffin carefully explained to his Russian cable broadcast interviewer: “It’s an extreme example of something imperialistic governments have done for a very long time,” i.e. “false flag operations.” He expounded: “You attack your own people, you blame another country that you already have reasons to attack. Hitler did this in Poland. Japan did it in Manchuria. Our government did it planting evidence that these attacks were carried out by members of al Qaeda.”

In a conference call earlier this year, Griffin explained he favors the end of nation states in favor of “global democracy.” Under this new international regime, “We could get rid of war. We don’t have money for health care or ecological crisis. Take money out of the system and militarism out of the system.”

Meanwhile, until “global democracy” is attained, Griffin must crusade against the “propaganda machine that we call the Pentagon and mainstream media,” which is “so powerful and so influential particularly on people who haven’t had the kind of education that armors them against this.” His obstacle is that a “large percentage of people…are so brainwashed that they cannot see the obvious.”

This week, in a 4600 word dissertation on www.911truth.org, Griffin verbosely responded to my own Institute on Religion and Democracy’s critique of him. “Was the Bush administration too moral?” he sarcastically asked of our doubts that Bush appointees and law enforcement blew up the World Trade Center and Pentagon. As evidence of the “Bush-Cheney White House” depravity, Griffin cited “lies” about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and about air quality at the post-11 World Trade Center site.

He triumphantly queried: “Given these facts, why would the IRD consider it self-evident that the Bush administration could not have orchestrated 9/11?”

As proof of his own scholarly legitimacy, Griffin heralded ostensible endorsements from former Minnesota Governor and wrestler Jesse Ventura, some of the “Jersey Girls’ 9-11 widows,” and one member of the Japanese senate. Griffin asked rhetorically: “Does IRD believe that such people endorse silly books?”

In contrast with IRD’s “business of issuing propaganda,” Griffin celebrated that the “9/11 Truth Movement, by contrast, [has] provided evidence — an enormous amount of evidence, in fact — showing that the official conspiracy theory [that al Qaeda did it] is simply not believable.” Indeed, “the weight of expert opinion — among people in the relevant professions who have examined the evidence and are not dependent upon the government for their livelihood — is almost entirely on the side of the 9/11 Truth Movement.”

What a lonely battle it must be for Griffin and other 9-11 conspiracy theorists to champion their dark “truth” of fathomless duplicity against a “brainwashed” world enslaved by Pentagon propaganda. Maybe a deity more powerful than Griffin’s brand of process theology permits will extend him grace and remind him that even evil has its limits.


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Why Post Propaganda Without Refutation

This article is making fun of DRG . if you didn't notice,"frontpage is a neocon magazine, why link to it? I guess I'm wondering why was this posted if it is simply anti DRG propaganda.

Maybe I'm missing something, explain.

One reason...

This article has a lot of comments, many of them supporting the gov't. lie, but some good ones too. You could add to the comments and give them some truth. Seemed worth doing to me, so I did.

OK, Makes Sense

I was just thinking that some who stumble on to this site may not be savvy enough to know it is a hit piece.

Of COURSE it is a hit piece on 9/11 truth.

I think we need to see just what is in the press, even when the press presents information that is attacking us.
It is important to learn how they think, so we can understand how to change their minds, or at least the minds of those who have already been indoctrinated with this nonsense.

Pathetic

What a joke. When will these guys learn that to be credible you have to debate the evidence, instead of giving out reams of subjective and worthless blather.

That's all they've got

They can't maintain any credibility while addressing the evidence, hence the reason 9/11 deniers have to resort to slander and such. Granted, they generally do this all subconsciously, which makes it particularly pathetic.

Pot Shots

like this tell me they are scared to death of us.

I think so too.

If they were not scared, they would ignore us.

Wondering

Wondering if the author's characterization of process theology is accurate.

"Griffin is a philosopher emeritus at the United Methodist Church’s Claremont Seminary in California and espouses “process theology,” which asserts that God is constantly evolving. His Center for Process Studies is located at Claremont. Process theology also posits that history has no destination and that good and evil, often manifest through endless conspiracies transcending generations, are perpetually in conflict, since even God lacks full authority."

The attractive elements in this description in my mind would be that God is constantly evolving, and that He lacks full authority, the later being evident, since, if He, being a God of goodness, did have full authority, evil would not triumph, as it often seems to. Of course, authority is a loaded word, and in some senses, God could have retained full authority without having full control: moral authority, for example. It may be that God partnered with humanity, which has yet to pull its own weight in the deal. It would be humanity, then, which must, with God's help, triumph over evil, vanquish it, and marginalize it to the point where it will wither away, a daunting task indeed.

The open-ended and creative aspect of process theology is certainly attractive. I think it was started by Alfred North Whitehead, who coauthored a presentation of mathematics (Principia Mathematica) with Bertrand Russell, later found to be flawed in part, as Goedel demonstrated. I certainly believe, sense and hope that good is positioned to ultimately triumph over evil. But we will never know for sure, one supposes, until it is accomplished. It is, in my humble opinion, a good working hypothesis. If God is not comfortable with things as they are, I would guess that history, from His viewpoint, has a destination, which is to make things better.

It seems the author of this article wanted to make process theology sound wacky, or to show that Griffin's stand on 9-11 truth was merely a manifestation of the theology he espouses, and has no foundation in fact, or more probably, to distract the reader from considering the facts by proposing that 9-11 truth is merely a manifestation of someone's theology, with no basis in fact. If people, such as those taken in by this article, persist in being idiots. for whatever reason, that is something beyond one's control.

I recognize it is risky to opine on theological subjects on this website, and there are no doubt people with a wide range of theological pursuasions who support 9-11 truth.

It rains on the just and the unjust

Okay, I'll take the risk too.

I am not a Christian, nor am I even convinced of the historicity of Jesus; but the Bible does contain some valuable wisdom, which I would point to in this case. In Matthew 5:44 - 5:45 (KJV) Jesus states:

Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust.

In other words, in sub-absolute reality, good and evil are in perpetual struggle, and the Universe does not favour one over the other in any of its natural processes. However, by following the good, we "become the children of the father", that is, we are merged into Oneness or God, in life and in the transformation called death. From this we can extrapolate rebirth of corresponding spiritual nobility, for those who follow the good.

For those who embrace evil, however, separation from God is their fate, and the inevitable cause and effects inherent in everything we do, means that at times of transformation, their consciousness and being will be determined in accordance with their hearts. Thus evil consciousness cannot evolve into the higher spheres which are available to those who are truly good, and must degenerate. Divine mercy gives evil many chances, but ultimately it is destroyed through separation from God if it continually fails to choose good. This destruction therefore is self-chosen. Evil will however continue in the abstract sense, since it will arise again in response to the Good. In this world, therefore, the abstract battle is perpetual; but in the particular good always wins in the end.

So in absolute terms only the good is real, but on sub-absolute levels, there is always a struggle. However, by carrying on with faith through sufficient transformations, good will always overtake evil because evil will deprive itself of universal life giving energy through its own choices. Therefore, good will always triumph over a particular form of evil, even in this world of unreality, so long as within us a) there is faith (as a quality of being, not directed at an object like a belief or religion, which is what ensures adherence to truth and the good), and b) a persistence through transformations which is determined to endure to the end (whatever that may be).

This world is not the real world. The real world exists as the spiritual correspondence of this world. This world can thus be seen as a training ground or school for higher realities in which we earn the right to exist by virtue of our choices for the good at every step of the way. Nothing is guaranteed; we must continue choosing the good or we may stray from the right path at any time.

Sorry to be so verbose. This is my understanding of process theology as it affects us on personal levels. Process theology is extremely rational, sane and based on both observation and inner wisdom. It is, I believe, at the core of all true religions. It is in deep harmony with the goals of 911Truth. In my experience, when fighting evils in my personal life, I find that following these principles always leads to victory (eventually and in the particular). Then its on to the next struggle! Anyway, I humbly hope this helps.

Never realized

that process theology was a path, rather than just a philosophical point of view. Thanks, Alison,