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~mixed feelings re:9/11 truth


Part 5- “Killtown”, Lew Rockwell and the Ludwig von Mises Institute

Killtown as anyone can see from his yahoo profile came on the scene in March of 2002, literally months after 9/11.

http:// profiles.yahoo.com/killtown

Before that he was a active in the Libertarian Party, and even before that he admits to being active in the Greens:

http:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=R9tk0H-EDZ4

So it isn't completely fair to assume his 9/11truth involvement was phony; clearly he was interested in politics before. But how genuine was his previous interest? Its speculation, but switching from Green to Libertarian is a bit odd. It sounds more like he was a Green because of the hot chicks and drugs, and the Libertarian switch was discovering a conservative culture that he could be comfortable with and still get hot chicks and drugs. Again this is speculation, but it would explain why “KT” finds right-wing nutters comfortable company—to him that is normal. I wouldn't be surprised to discover his family as hard core Republicans with strong “Christian Values”. That's perfect recipe for raging hypocrisy later in life.

Another odd bit was his choice of screen name. “Killtown”? Seriously? Are is he trying to put people off? There was an 80's rap group. Maybe “KT” was a fan. There was also an African American group who I'd suspect is truly irritated with “KT” hijacking their search results. They probably changed their name.... Right, “Killtown” makes sense as a band name challenging the culture—not so much if one's really trying to get people to look into 911truth. As a name for an supposed antiwar activist, it's frankly offensive—especially used by a white boy. He's not alone in this in your face counter productive naming among supposed truthers. Somewhere out there is a user called “europeangenocide” and another called “catrapesdog”. More relevant are email addys called “slicingthroats” and “removingheads”, also from roughly the same period. Its like someone wanted a bunch of off-putting names to go with the drivel they'd soon publish.

One of “Killtown”s first haunts was APFN. APFN is short for American Patriots Friends Network. “Killtowns” posts go back to at least 2003:

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/10-11-03/discussion.cgi.89.html

killtown
9-11 + Rice Calls Bush
Thu Oct 9 04:26:24 2003
64.140.158.40

What's curious about the IP address “KT” used is other people posting at APFN used it as well.

Jason Colletts
SECRET PROBE OF STOCK DEALINGS BEFORE 9/11
Sun May 8, 2005 21:39
64.140.158.40

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/05-10-05/discussion.cgi.52.html
That seems to imply a network Killtown --and others—had access to, for the express purpose of posting to APFN. It is NOT a proxy service. It is a static corporate ip address owned by Extreme Zone in Mesa, AZ:
Hostname:ip-140-158-40.phx.extremezone.com
ISP:Extreme Internet
That sounds like a service APFN was paying for its users to post through. Nothing wrong with that in theory, but is shows someone representing APFN spent money so people could the Extreme Zone ip like a proxy service. Whomever paid for that service could be held culpable in the later slander and attacks the list was used for.
Other people used this network, notably Lisa Guliani:

Lisa Guliani
# 9-11 on Trial
Fri Feb 11, 2005 02:56
64.140.158.43

Right-wing operative Marsha McCleland defending Terry Schiavo's “life”
www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_2.htm
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-23-05/discussion.cgi.2.html

Marsha
Life or death matter>>>I saw Terri Schiavo on the news and s
Wed Feb 23, 2005 23:00
152.163.101.7
I saw Terri Schiavo on the news and she "WAS" very much alert>>>>>>>>
How could they think of killing her...Because in her case...removing the tube would kill her...Her husband should be tarred and feathered and then beat to a pulp...Please take a moment to sign and send to others...What if she were one of your own
Shame on "US"...barbarians and savages, we are, if we don't help this woman and her loving and suffering parents...Please take a moment and sign it...
Marsha

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-11-05/discussion.cgi.43.html
And—surprise, surprise, Webfairy:

The Webfairy
Re: Was Not an Attack it was Murder
Fri Mar 26 15:01:37 2004
63.228.144.66

Go look at
http:// thewebfairy. com/killtown/pentalawn.html
The killtown site is not my work. I just host it for someone anonymous even to
me.

Leaving aside the extreme unlikelihood of anyone hosting material on their personal website they'll be held responsible for and not knowing whose material it is, its notable how many people who would later be trouble can be found on the APFN network.
At the very least American Patriots Friends Network has an agenda of pushing right-wing extremism. They don't like discussion and they don't play nice if they're crossed—which can be just asking them a simple question;
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/american-patriot-friends...
At the most the are crytpo fascists and racists of the worst kind-- and here's a message from David Duke to prove it:
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-24-05/discussion.cgi.21.html

D.D.
Michael Chertoff, Homeland Nominee Aided a 911 Terrorist
Sun Jan 23, 2005 14:07
64.140.158.55
January 23, 2005
Michael Chertoff, Homeland Nominee Aided a 911 Terrorist
As incredible as this news may seem, it has now been revealed that the nominee of President Bush for the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, has ties with a man suspected of financing the 911 attacks, Dr. Magdy Elamir. There is also convincing evidence that Chertoff as head of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department shielded this financier of 911 from prosecution in a terrorist case.
The Record newspaper of Bergen County, New Jersey on June 20, 2000 shows that Chertoff defended Magdy Elamir who was sued by the State of New Jersey for $16.7 million dollars in losses. Over $5.7 million went Òto unknown parties by means of wire transfers to bank accounts where the beneficial owner of the account is unknown."
Who is Elamir Magdy, Chertoff's important client? On the NBC program, Dateline, on August 2, 2002, Rep. Ben Gilman, R-NY, of the House International Relations Committee was quoted as saying in 1998 that Magdy Elamir had "financial ties with Osama bin Laden for years."
In fact, Elamir even had strong connections with the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.
[SNIP]
In 2002, I was speaking all over America and world exposing the Israeli connections to 911 and the over 140 members of the Israeli spy ring that was then held in FBI custody. Zionists in the U.S. State Department attempted to prevent my appearance on a primetime program broadcast over the worldwide Al-Jazeera network. (Newsweek: Periscope). They failed, and the program aired to millions around the world and received a tremendous response. I was offered hundreds of invitations to speak on the matter before influential organizations, media and groups all over the world. Within 60 days of my appearance on Al Jazeera, Mr. Chertoff as head the criminal division of the U.S. Justice Department authorized prosecution against me on tax and financial matters. This is the same Michael Chertoff who freed the same Israeli spy ring that I helped to expose!
And now it turns out that Chertoff himself has aided one of the financiers of bin Laden and the 911 attack! It is also clear that he has obstructed justice in preventing this terroristÕs prosecution.
And now, our Jewish-Neocon-dominated government seeks to make a man who aided one of the 911 terrorists as head of Homeland Security.
Under control of the Jewish supremacists our nation's government has gone insane.
Sincerely, David Duke
I want to acknowledge that some of my wording and excerpts came from a superb article "Security Risk in The University Star newspaper of Texas State University. They are credited with the flow chart of the time line showing Chertoff's involvement with the terror figure and his subsequent obstruction of justice.
Note: I believe that this story is one of the most shocking and important ever published on Davidduke.com/ Imagine, the nominee for head of Homeland Security actually aided one of the men behind he 911 attacks! Its almost too shocking to be true!
It is vital that you post this article on every forum you can find. Go to websites that deal with some of these issues and send the article to pundits, newscasters, commentators, reporters. You can go on the internet and send a short paragraph on the article to hundreds of opinion leaders and molders in a few short hours! It is incumbent upon you to do this. Many commentators and columnists give their email addresses; use them to send out this vital piece. Other websites in America, Canada, Europe and the Mideast must also get this information. If you act quickly the world will know the sordid facts about Michael Chertoff. I have posted this article. Now it is up to you to saturate the internet with it until it has a life of its own. Go for it! D.D.

Wow. David Duke. THE David Duke. And Killtown and the rest were on this email list...how could they have missed DAVID sodding “KKK” DUKE?
APFN—and its associated google/yahoo groups/email lists is also a haunt of Webster Tarpley [=Larouche] and a place where virtually all of Tarpley's media—books, radio shows are promoted.
http://www.mail-archive.com/apfn@googlegroups.com/msg01605.html
apfn.net/Messageboard/01-21-06/discussion.cgi.67.html
www.apfn.net/messageboard/07-04-05/discussion.cgi.28.html
So we can safely say APFN is another Lyndon Larouche outpost.

What's a nice ex-Green Libertarian boy hanging out with friends of Larouche cultists and David Duke?.....

Read whole article at:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6557