Anniversary of 9/11 Open Thread

Please use this thread, thanks to Joe's suggestion, to keep track of news and events that are occurring during the Anniversary of 9/11. As always follow the rules and feel free to offer your thoughts, recollections and reflections as we face yet another end of a successful year fighting for the truth of 9/11. Peace and Thanks to Everyone involved.


Let's use this to keep track of the news and events of this week

This weekend Laurie Manwell and Graeme MacQueen, both of Ontario, Canada, gave great presentations here in Bloomington, Indiana.

9/11 skeptics present ‘Peace Through Truth’
By Rachel Trees | IDS | September 05, 2010

They will be featured in an interview with Byron Bangert, on WFHB community radio, tonight at 6 p.m. ET.

*Thanks to Kevin Ryan for forwarding on this information.

I requested an Open Thread...

to help us all keep up as the week's events and news start pouring in.

I would like to see it remain at the TOP or better yet, a headline on the front page directing us to it. The blog page mostly gets overlooked.

Condoleezza Rice...

RICE ordered Bush to stay put on 9/11, then allegedly hung up on him.

The ROCK CREEK FREE PRESS includes “911 Investigator” in Sept. E

The ROCK CREEK FREE PRESS includes “911 Investigator” in Sept. Edition
Take a look

9/11/2010 Press Release

The following press release is for an action and event this Saturday in Northampton, MA, .Please feel welcome to use any part of it to help raise awareness. I also believe that getting a hundred copies of the 9/11 Investigator from for $20 is another good present undeniable hard evidence until the sheeple and so-called peace activists finally wake up!

Thanks for everyone uniting in this effort..

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September 11 Event in Northampton, MA

Valley 9/11 Truth -

Northampton -- For more than three years members of Valley 9/11 Truth have been holding meetings, films and discussions on 9/11. The evidence uncovered by independent researchers show that it was impossible to cause three steel-framed buildings to collapse at nearly free fall speeds with the official explanation of office fires and jet fuel. Not only had this never happened before or since, but evidence published in the peer-review, highly respected, The Open Chemical Physics Journal show military grade nano-thermite explosives were found throughout the dust at 'ground zero' soon after their collapse.

Evidence regarding a cover-up of what happened on September 11 is important because two wars have been justified by the alleged attacks. The issue of building a Muslim community center in NYC is another example of the importance of valuing a scientific investigation, and sticking with principles in the US Constitution. Instead, 9/11 has appeared to many as a coup d'etat to mislead people, as National Academy of Science member Lynn Margulis wrote in her article. "Two Hit, Three Down - The Biggest Lie." (1)

The focus of programs Saturday, September 11, 2010 at the Frances P. Crowe community meeting space (60 Masonic Street) will be covering the sudden descent of World Trade Center (WTC) building 7. "Building what?" was asked by Judge Edward Lehner upon hearing mention of WTC Building 7. But no wonder why he would miss something as significant as that, the so-called official 9/11 Commission omitted this fact from their Report!?!

David Ray Griffin said: "Recognizing the high correlation between those who know about the collapse of WTC 7 and those who believe that a new - or rather real - 9/11 investigation is needed, I propose that the international 9/11 Truth Movement initiate, starting this September, a world-wide, year-long 'BuildingWhat?' campaign. Through this campaign, we would seek to make the fact of its collapse so widely known that the mention of Building 7 would never again evoke the question: 'Building What?'"

The program begins at 2:00 PM at the Frances Crowe community meeting space with "9/11 Blueprint for Truth: The Architecture of Destruction." Following films will be discussions. The film beginning at 7:00 PM is called The Reflecting Pool. At 9:00 PM the film will be a new DVD interview with Richard Gage, AIA. Any changes will be posted at

The public is invited free of charge. However donations will be appreciated to support costs of the event and to donate to for television advertisements in NYC on WTC-7.

(1) Two Hit, Three Down - The Biggest Lie
National Academy of Science member and Distinguished Professor endorses
David Ray Griffin's work exposing the truth of 9/11
By Lynn Margulis

Without truth there can be no justice.
Without justice can there be peace?

For resources: - - - -

Mind games

I find it odd the number of mind games that have come out in the last few weeks. Building a mosque near ground zero was the first. Then right on the heals is the Qur'an burning in Florida. These seem like emotional issues quickly brought to mass attention by the MSM to get people riled up and engaged in pointless heated debate.

Totally agree with you.

I've also noticed that a lot of 9/11 articles don't have a comments section. And for those that do, 9/11 truth comments are conspicuously absent.

The Onion comedy site hit piece

Construction Complete On 9/11 Truther Memorial

Still leveraging the power of ridicule to close minds.

Cosmos/YT: something for the hit piece section, if it qualifies as such? (Since it's comedy and caricature, not 'news')

Might do!

I couldn't bear to read it until just now. It's disturbing.

Could do an Onion style headline like: Onion Not So Funny Today

It did make me chuckle a bit, but it's really sick.

Major article in German "Focus Money" magazine

today, 8 pages full og 9/11 truth, carried to more than 200.000 readers.

Full article to follow next week!

Max Keiser on RT

Michael Moore...

If anyone still thinks it is worth it to try to push Michael Moore and his audience towards 9/11 Truth, there is a great new opportunity to do so now at his personal blog which takes comments.

The moderator over there allows 9/11 truth type questions as well, as long as you remain polite and respectful of Michael Moore, his films, etc.

Anthony Shaffer

Pentagon Plan: Buying Books to Keep Secrets

NYT full of it:

"But after 2003, Colonel Shaffer was involved in a dispute over his claim that an intelligence program he worked for, code named Able Danger, had identified Mohammed Atta as a terrorist threat before he became the lead hijacker in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. An investigation by the Defense Department’s inspector general later concluded that the claim was inaccurate."

And they let that last sentence stand as if it means anything.


Looking forward to see many in NYC

Best regards-

Los Angeles

You Are Cordially Invited to Attend

The 9th Annual 9/11 Memorial Event

Saturday, September 11th, 2010

Immanuel Presbyterian Church
3300 Wilshire Blvd, Los Angeles 90010

Doors Open at 6:30 PM
Event Commences at 7:30 PM
Tickets $10 at the Door

Hosted by

Chuck Noyes...9/11 Truth LA

Guest Speakers

Lt. Colonel Robert Bowman, Ret…Former Head of Star Wars Program
Christine Blosdale …Senior Producer at KPFK
Frank Dorrel…Addicted To War
Kathleen Rosenblatt…Co-Founder of 9/11 Truth LA
Jeremy Rothe-Kushel…We Are Change LA

Video Presentations by

Ed Asner, Cynthia McKinney & Cindy Sheehan

We will remember the fallen as a result of this terrible tragedy, and discuss the False Flag nature of 9/11,
the Patriot Acts, the death of the Bill of Rights, the usage of this event to justify continuing illegal U.S. wars
and furthering the National Security State.

Q&A to Follow Presentation

A lot of 9/11 related topics are now surfacing.

A lot of 9/11 related topics and events are now surfacing in different regions.

Our North Texas 9/11 Truth Group has promoted the "BuildingWhat?.org" campaign with "Letters to the Editor" to around a dozen local area publications. Many comment boards, local TV / radio stations, etc. have been delivered a 9/11 Truth or AE911Truth related message in our area.

Thanks for this separate thread.
A lot is happening.

LTE Published Today

My letter to the editor was published today, September 10th in North Carolina. It's the one supporting Bob McIlvaine that is also a press release for "BuildingWhat?'

Greenville Daily Reflector: Circulation 22,000

Thanks TomT for all you do in Texas. You guys are all 5-star Generals for 9/11Truth! *****

STILL time to send a letter for Bob. Personalize the letter if you want. But please take 5 minutes and submit it. - 3rd news item.

?...Interesting... "9/11 Day of Service" campaign

"9/11 Day of Service" campaign

Richard Gage

Just heard on infowars that Richard Gage will be giving a press conference in front of building 7 at 2 pm 9/11/10.

9/11: The Rest Should Be Silence, TRUNCATED TRUTHOUT

9/11: The Rest Should Be Silence, TRUNCATED TRUTHOUT

GO COMMENT: very easily done

Friday 10 September 2010

by: Michael Winship, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

"The last time I attended the September 11 ceremonies at ground zero, on the fifth anniversary in 2006, as the names of the dead were read, solemn tranquility was disrupted and disrespected by those who tried to use the occasion to draw attention to themselves, crassly intruding with their conspiracy theories and raucous agendas.

And quiet, please, not only because it is a mark of respect for the deceased and their friends and families, but also because it is the sound of silence that many New Yorkers find so evocative of those days just after the attacks. Our streets closed to regular traffic, patrolled by police and the National Guard, we wandered in mute disbelief at what had happened, at the enormity of our loss. Even the emergency vehicles that raced along the empty streets did so without their sirens. We murmured softly among ourselves, looking for answers as many of our fellow citizens still searched for news of their missing loved ones."

Radio Interviews with Michael Berger, Media Coordin

Radio Interviews with Michael Berger, Media Coordinator

Michael Berger, Media Coordinator for, was scheduled for a ten-minute interview this morning with Pat Brittenden of New Zealand's NewstalkZB. Just over an hour prior to the scheduled appointment time, Pat called Michael to ask whether he could do the interview an hour early ... with Gene Corley carrying the torch for the Official Story! Click here to listen to the explosive results of this surprise opportunity...

Interview mp3 file (right click, then 'save' to download the mp3 for immediate listening).

Don't miss Michael's radio appearance tonight (Friday, September10th) at 6:00pm Central time on TalkSport Radio ( in the UK, with presenter (host) George Galloway. Listen live here.

Michael will take to the air again Sunday, 9/12 at 3:30 Central on South Africa’s biggest talk show radio, Radio 702 with Kate Turkington. Listen here.

Just like Air Force One Photo Op, Errant Drone Story Right on Ti

Just like Air Force One Photo Op, Errant Drone Story Right on Time for 9/11
By Jason Charles | | Sept. 10, 2010

Yes, 9/11 still stinks and always will stink, they pull these stories out for political purposes in the lead up to 9/11yearly for one reason only to separate the American people from their critical thinking skills and ability to question the so called facts of the commission report..

The Bush Administration are criminally complicit, the hijackers were set up as patsies by our CIA [6], money was laundered via Pakistani ISI Officials who were meeting with Joe Biden of all People[7], Bin Laden isn't even being pursued as a suspect for 9/11[8], and as a result two outright unconstitutional wars have been launched killing millions.

The big kicker is that drone that went errant on America's soil searching for terrorists is here in the U.S., just like they are in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Yemen and is all totally justified because of the false flag attacks of 9/11.

Instead this 9/11 let's look past the obvious lame attempts by the main stream media to cover-up and distract from the truth surrounding the events of 9/11. Let's support those who are asking real answers like the 1200+ architects and engineers who are holding a press conference in regards to physical evidence of explosives at the towers, or the questions that are being asked by family members like "Building What?" In regards to the mysterious collapse of WTC 7.


The fake left chimes in

9/11: The Rest Should Be Silence

by Michael Winship

The Common Dreams link to this article is heartening. Author is universally condemned in the comment section for telling *conspiracy theorists* (in essence) to shut up and stay away from ground zero;

NYPD 'army' for protests

NYPD 'army' for protests


Last Updated: 11:35 AM, September 10, 2010

Posted: 5:27 AM, September 10, 2010
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The NYPD has called up "an army of cops" to handle rival protests expected to draw thousands to the site of the planned Ground Zero mosque on the anniversary of 9/11, sources said yesterday.

"We want to keep everyone in their corners. You don't want the opposing sides to clash," an NYPD official told The Post. "All eyes are going to be on New York City that day. No one wants to see a fight on Sept. 11."

With as many as 4,000 riled-up demonstrators expected to pack into two blocks of Park Place between West Broadway and Broadway -- the site of the proposed mosque -- the department is sparing no expense to keep the peace, the official said.

"There'll be an army of cops down there," the official said, estimating the number of officers at several hundred.

The dueling rallies -- to be held tomorrow, on the ninth anniversary of the terror attacks -- will pit mosque supporters against those who believe that the site shouldn't be so close to Ground Zero.

The demonstrators will square off on opposite sides of Park Place, the site of the controversial Park51 center, after 9/11 commemorations conclude at noon in nearby Zuccotti Park, off Liberty Street.

But no matter where they stand on the mosque issue, some people questioned the appropriateness of protesting on Sept. 11.

"My own view -- irrespective how you feel about the mosque -- I don't think you have it that day. It's totally disrespectful," said Tom Acquaviva, 70, of Wayne, NJ, who lost his son, Paul, 29, an employee of Cantor Fitzgerald, in the attack.

But Pamela Geller, a founder of Stop Islamization of America, which is organizing the anti-mosque rally, said 9/11 family members have begged her to soldier on.

Geller said she has urged supporters to carry US flags rather than potentially inflammatory, slogan-emblazoned signs, to show they come in peace.

Map of 9/11 body parts used by Fox in GZ Mosque controversy

"It shows that remains were found just 348 feet to the south of the mosque site at 45 Park Place."


"The map indicates that human remains or traces of DNA were concentrated directly at the former World Trade center site, but there are a few dots further away, including three between 350 and 400 feet -- about one and a half city blocks -- from the proposed site of an Islamic cultural center"

Fox News uses map of 9/11 body parts to fight ‘ground zero mosque’

I wonder if this map is known to AE911Truth. I assume so.

Kean-Hamilton Pimp Islamofasicm Propaganda in New Report

Bipartisan Policy Center Report Finds Homegrown Terrorism Presents Key Challenge for the United States

9/11 Commission myth-makers Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton and a host of other Establishment wonk-shills (report was authored by Peter Bergen and Bruce Hoffman) stoke Americans' fears about a homegrown Al Qaeda boogeyman threat just in time for the 9/11 anniversary.

Predictably, they don't examine the curious, coincidental and still unaccounted for 'failures' of, and/or links between, US intelligence and defense agencies, related to Faisal Shazad (failed alleged Times Square Bomber), Nidal Hasan (alleged sole Fort Hood shooter), Umar Farouq Abdulmutallab (failed alleged underwear bomber). (link documentation at this and other sites). And neither do they address the long-running cultivation and use of 'Al Qaeda' by Western/allied intelligence agencies, amply documented by Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed and Peter Dale Scott.

However, the above info is not widely known by the general public, due to apathy and corporate media brainwashing. So the really glaring omissions and hypocrisy are this report's focus on 'homegrown' terror while ignoring the white/Christian alleged terrorist acts and plots in recent years, which have been widely covered by the US MSM. For instance, white supremacist assassination plots and threats against Obama, the Michigan Hutaree Christian terrorist group that was going to kill a cop and then bomb his funeral, the assassination of abortion doctor George Tiller and Joseph Stack, reported as having crashed a plane into an IRS building in TX, as well as various church shootings. And, of course, there's also the alleged Pentagon shooter Patrick Bedell and Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn- who Glenn Beck and other rightwing hypocrites tried to associate and smear 9/11 skepticism with. And then there's also Bruce Ivins, named by the FBI as being responsible for the post-9/11 Anthrax mailings, but with a case so thin and weak that even many MSM pundits refused to endorse it.

This report's skewed focus on black/Arabic/Eastern Muslims while ignoring the many whites and Christians linked to violence and terror completely undermines its credibility, and the credibility of those involved; either they are clueless, prejudiced, or have some agenda. And neither do the media and pundits have any credibility, who have uncritically regurgitated its analysis:

Kean and Hamilton

Methinks these goofs will have far more serious things to worry about -- in the very near future -- than FBI sponsored underwear bombings. Both gents will be on trial for aiding and abetting mass murder. That is, if the American people rise to the challenge.

Remember; The Warren Commission took place in a vacuum, long before the internets. The pace of justice is quickening. The die is cast. Karma will occur in realtime. And these scoundrels will be held to account.

Update on Kurt Sonnenfeld

9/11, nine years later
Kurt Sonnenfeld: A witness for the persecution
by Thierry Meyssan*, Gaia Edwards*

Kurt Sonnenfeld’s case is outstanding for at least two reasons. He is in possession of official documentation that contradicts the U.S. Government’s account of the 9/11 events. He is a high-profile U.S. citizen forced to seek refugee status because of his government’s dogged persecution. Any relation between these two facts is not purely coincidental. Voltaire Network’s second exclusive interview of Kurt Sonnenfeld, conducted in Buenos Aires, is presented below.

Ted Koppel


Roger Ebert

I guess he doesn't believe "Bush or any associate" had anything to do with 9/11 being an inside job.

In the comments section under his Put up or shut up article, he posted the following reply:

By Hanky Panky on September 1, 2010 7:48 AM

And yet the same amount of people believe that 9/11 was an inside job, that Bush and his administration had a hand in that. Does Mr. Ebert believe that is a dangerous belief? Does he condemn the liberals who have allowed that lie to be perpetrated? Will Mr. Ebert call on Obama, Pelosi, the Clintons to issue a joint statement saying that Bush did not have a role in 9/11? I would laugh if Ebert wasn't so sad.

Ebert: I have often said it is absurd to believe Bush or any associate has any thing to do with the 9/11 attacks. I believe they did NOT.

I dismiss those who say so.

Obama, Pelosi and the Clintons have never suggested Bush had any such role, and in fact all three have publicly denied it.

Dedicated Ignorance

Yahoo! is running a few stories on 9/11, accompanied by a predictable avalanche of racist and xenophobic comments. I asked this question:

"Two apples fall from a tree; one hits nothing, the other bounces off tree branches on its way to the ground.
Which apple hits the ground first?"

Here are the two responses:

"Trick question. The one that bounced and ended up on the ground landed first, the other one hit NOTHING."

"The Muslim apple? lol"

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS tell their stories of 9/11 - Dallas

Today (Sept 11, 2010) was a symposium in Dallas with a panel of air traffic controllers who were handling situations on 9/11/01.
C-SPAN recorded this event entitled "Navigating Chaos: Aviation’s Response on 9/11".
It is replaying this weekend or you can watch it online.

Details about the event

Members of "North Texans for 9/11 Truth" were at this event after having passed out DVDs and broadsheet flyers and also bannering to walking crowds of thousands in downtown Dallas.


Members of "North Texans for 9/11 Truth" were at this event after having passed out DVDs and broadsheet flyers and also bannering to walking crowds of thousands in downtown Dallas.

Remembering 9/11

Since I think about 9/11 every day, not just on 9/11, here is a reminder of what happened that day...

- 7:59AM: American Airlines Flight 11 takes off from Boston Logan Airport. 92 people on board

- 8:14AM: United Airlines Flight 175 takes off from Boston Logan Airport. 65 people on board

- 8:20AM: American Airlines Flight 77 takes off from Dulles Airport outside of Washington. 64 people on board

- 8:42AM: United Airlines Flight 93 takes off from Newark. 45 people on board

- 8:46AM: Flight 11 hits the North Tower between the 93rd and 98th floor of the 110 story building. No one above the crash line survives. Approximately 1,260 people die

- 9:03AM: Flight 175 hits the South Tower between the 78th and 84th floors, also 110 stories. 600 people in the tower eventually die.

- 9:37AM: Flight 77 hits the Pentagon. Approximately 125 people on the ground are killed.

- 9:59AM: The South Tower collapses.

- 10:03AM to 10:10AM: Flight 93 crashes. Exact time a matter of dispute.

- 10:28AM: The North Tower collapses. The combined death toll from both towers is 2,829. 343 firefighters were killed.

- 5:20PM: World Trade Tower 7 collapses. No one is killed


"In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot." Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI

"To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance." 9/11 Commission report

"We are Unable to Provide a Full Explanation of the Total Collapse." National Institute of Standards and Technology tasked with investigating the collapse of WTC1, 2 and 7.

“The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI

9 years after 9/11 we still don't know who was responsible for the greatest mass murder in US history and no one has been held accountable.

Great quotes

Good job.

RE; Afterwords no single piece of paper

re: Afterwords:

"In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot." Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI

Why did Mueller not look in former FBI Director's Louis Freeh's daily briefing papers for January 4, 2000. He would have found the information that Khalid, Nawaf and his brother Salem were traveling to an important al Qaeda planning meeting and that the CIA had found that Khalid was in fact Khalid al-Mihdhar and had his passport as well as his photograph.

This information is found on page 181 of the 9/11 Commission report!

9/11 Truth protest in Berlin - Germany

German Daily "Junge Welt" Asks Hard Hitting Questions on 9/11

German Daily "Junge Welt"
Hard Hitting Questions on 9/11

September 12, 2010

On the 9th anniversary of 9/11 the german daily newspaper "Junge Welt" published a whole series of articles
that put the official story in question and lines out all major points that lead to international calls for a new and
independent 9/11 investigation.