9/11 Coverup: Judge Napolitano interviews Col, Anthony Shaffer and Michael Scheuer

Judge Napolitano's Ground-breaking interview with Lt. Col, Anthony Shaffer and Former CIA Intelligence officer, Michael Scheuer.

Scheuer never explains Alec Station conduct

His excuses:

1) Tenet's bad leadership.

2) FBI.

3) Risk averse White House.

4) Corrupt politicians.

Yet he has never explained why Alec Station withheld information about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar.

Edited to add:

Note that Judge Napolitano mentions Scheuer headed Alec Station from '96 to '99. Why wouldn't he want to interview the person (ID'ed as Richard Blee) who ran Alec Station in the lead up to 9/11? Why hasn't anyone in the media interviewed him? Does he not owe the public any answers?

The public doesn't have access to 9/11 Commission interview summaries of intelligence agents involved in al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar withholding issues as they are still pending classification review. Since the intelligence agencies have had years to conduct these reviews it appears the records will not be released any time soon.


If Fox News thinks I'm falling for this ridiculous and mendacious about-face on 9/11 then they're smoking something awful.

Have fun setting up the partisan limited hangout hit job, Napolitano, you hack. Who do you think you're fooling. Fox News' idea of 'criticism' is crucifying the CIA and FBI for not being totalitarian enough, while all they had to do is NOT deliberately obstruct attempts by various sincere agents to thwart 9/11.

It's like grilling Joe Arpaio for not being 'tough enough' on immigration. That's what your intentions are if you invite Scheuer, "mr. rendition" on any show. Danse, if you're here, or about, is there any shorthand term for this type of propaganda?

Napolitano is not Fox News per se.

I certainly could be wrong here, but I am operating under the impression that Napolitano is honest, sincere and doing what he can within the corporate controlled limits to awaken the public about 9/11 and related issues.

He may have been forced to invite that CIA traitor Scheuer (or another of his disgusting kind) on the show for it to be approved by Fox News.

So, if there is any serious evidence that Napolitano lacks integrity, I would like to know what exactly it is (because this show certainly is not it).

How could the judge not ask for a legit criminal investigation

after hearing the 911 commision is a lie from top to bottom.

To me, there is a clear

To me, there is a clear difference between asking Napolitano to go farther and accusing him of being disingenuous.

I have no clear understanding of what he can get away with on Fox News and what will get him fired, but I assume he does.

Unless there is something specific that I am missing, I think attacking Napolitano is a mistake.

Like Shaffer, I believe that Napolitano is on our side of this battle.

The term is...

"...is there any shorthand term for this type of propaganda?"

There sure is SnowCrash, its called BULL$H!T!!

Wny didn't the judge ask one single question about Able Danger program identifying Mohammad Atta and the so-called "brooklyn cell" prior to 9/11? or the 2 terabytes of deleted data? Something doesn't smell right about this. I'm thinking there is going to be some kind of outcry and we'll get another limited "investigation" akin to the Committee on Presidential Assassinations that was formed after the release of the Zapruder film. Note how that piece of evidence was also released by using another mockingbird shill Geraldo Rivera. The PTB are up to something. I think a nice letter writing campaign to our freedom loving judge about what questions he should ask Zelikow.

peace all

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“It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth … For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.” -- Patrick Henry

This may be just what is needed to get a lot of people to take o

This may be just what is needed to get a lot of people to take off their blinders.

Exactly, Joe...

Getting people to admit there has been any kind of a cover-up of 9/11 is the first goal. How far they choose to go after that is up to them. I have no idea why Fox is pushing this (I hate Fox as much as the next guy), but Napolitano seems to be the only decent thing they've got going and, for whatever reason, I trust Anthony Shaffer (in other words I believe he is telling the truth as he knows it). Able Danger has been one of the most fascinating aspects of the 9/11 mystery to me and even if this is some sort of limited hangout as some have suggested it is going to backfire as it always does. People will go deeper.

Well stated

This could be the very first step for many people.

"...Getting people to admit there has been any kind of a cover-up of 9/11 is the first goal. How far they choose to go after that is up to them... ...People will go deeper."

(In my opinion, even if this Shaffer-in-the-spotlight is part of a psyop, we still "win". It puts people's attention on the 9/11, and the fact that things do not add up.)

Incompetence theory

Sounds like incompetence theory on steroids to me. Brace yourselves, this may be the game plan of our opposition leading up to the 10th anniversary. Right now it's Fox. Then it will be Maddow and Olberman weighing in. Then Bill O'Reilly will concede that there may have been some serious problems with intell. This will be spun around until everyone watching is dizzy and totally confused. Does anyone really think any heads will roll because of any of this? NOT. Does anyone think someone in the media is going to try to reconcile any of this with Sibel Edmonds' declaration that OBL was a CIA asset up to and even after 9/11/01? NOT. And what will be the conclusion of these media pundits and their CIA/FBI/Pentagon mouth pieces? More Intell, more security measures, bigger, bigger, more, more. Oh yeah, "we're learning a lot and we're gonna do it better now. But we still need huge f%#king budgets."

I'm watching and listening to every word, but I'm sticking with CD. I'm just guessing like the rest of us, but I think we are seeing all of this "opening up" of the media because of the serious ground we are gaining at the scientific level. Vote me down, call me names, whatever!


It's called PsyOps.

In military parlance...

In military parlance it's a "fall-back" position (OBL, incompetence, etc.).

Personally I find the mass-buying/burning of his book in tandem with his celebrity availability more than a little odd.

I'm interested, though skeptical.


And it's recycled

Not only is it a fall-back position--it's the same old fall-back position they've pushed since the spring of '02 (when the first wave of 'Bush knew' stories came out in the US press). They give it attention, let it fade for awhile while they ramp up fears over the latest 'threats,' alternately ignore and attack the real critiques of the official story that go against incompetence theory--then, when time passes, they dust off this fall-back story line and give it renewed attention, knowing that it will seem like 'news' to much of their audience, with its short attention span.

Typically, these 'exposés' are accompanied by professions of being 'shocked! shocked!,' (à la Colonel Renault in 'Casablanca') over these 'failures.'

Like a man who's in denial about losing his hair, the government and media just keep combing the 'incompetence/negligence theory' this way and that to pretend they've still got something there. Unfortunately, though, it continues to work with a lot of the public, it seems.

incompetence theory comb over

Thats hilarious! And right on target. But, as you said, it continues to work with a lot of people.

Its eerie how so many people can support the ridiculous OCT ... its like something out of a sci-fi picture.

OCT, fortified against future thinking.

I agree completely. The only thing this interview puts forward is that some insiders did indeed know of the "Arab perpetrators" well beforehand - but were stymied by incomplete communications between agencies. The shocking news for Fox-watchers is the fact that their only News Inlet called out the Commission Report as a white-wash and lie -- but ONLY regarding intelligence operations far PRIOR to 9/11.

This confirms that our strongest push should continue in another direction, toward the hard science, eyewitness testimony, the video record of explosions, nano-thermite, and everything else that happened ON Sept 11, 2001.

This new twist by Fox shows them to be squirming hard to re-direct attention away from the more compelling physical, testimonial, and video evidence. They mean to feed the grossly under-informed Fox-watcher a very small bit of "incompetence-cover-up" pablum in an attempt to inoculate viewers from bigger and more important truths. The Judge just gave them a big old wad of cud to chew on, that they can spit out when substantive conspiracy and "inside job" allegations resurface in their mud-slung, nutrition-absent feedlot.

Now if Fox actually addressed the ignored evidence from the day of 9/11, that would be real news to their blindered viewers. The real perpeTraitors would be cornered. But, since this would completely violate the mission of Fox as info-thugs for those same perps, that is just dreaming.

Red herring

It's a red herring, and a limited hangout, deniable plausibility of "incompetence", everything about Shaffer's testimony, except, perhaps, the very real possibility, that "Able Danger" was an operation who's purpose it was to identify and establish such an "able danger" PRIOR to 9/11, so as to form the false flag cover aspect via infiltration of the to-be hijackers, differentiating that line he was not permitted to cross, once the patsies were being successfully tracked..?

Shaffer, I suspect, resides directly on the other side of that line, so he's clean, BUT, his testimony drives home the IDEA that it was about nothing more or less than the covering up of certain people's asses over the failure of intelligence ie: the incompetence theory (as promulgated by the OCT and ratified in the final reportt), and thus a "limited hangout".

So while it's good in one sense, it also pisses me off, as a deflection, and an obfuscation of the truth about 9/11, so it makes ok press i suppose, particularly in the face of a growing 9/11 truth movement with increasing influence and power to shape history.

At least that's my two cents on the issue anyway for whatever its worth.

Question: Did Shaffer know, or intuit the DUAL PURPOSE of Able Danger, in service to the false flag black op psyop of 9/11..?

He APPEARS to be a good guy.. but is he really?

Surely he must have known something.. given who they were tracking and the asset(s) they had in place..?

He does see it as incompetence

We don't need to speculate about Shaffer's views, as he's made them quite plain. He really does think it was all massive incompetence. Regardless, though, he thinks in order that 'mistakes' not be repeated, we still need to have full disclosure and accountability re the events of 9/11. And it is that (and, I'm afraid, that alone...though it is something) which gives him common ground with the 9/11 truth movement.

Has anyone tried to approach Shaffer for further questions?

Is is doing book signings? Could he be interviewed further?

Thank you Fox News??!!

The fact that Fox News has allowed Shaffer to expound upon Able Danger is bizarre beyond description. He has made several appearances on the network in the last few weeks. The subject is even being spotlighted in an 'ongoing investigation' by Fox. This coverage is certainly one positive step in the long road towards discovering the truth about 9/11. I have been trying to get members of my family to examine the issue for years to no avail. Being Fox zealots, they have considered 9/11 Truth as the most blasphemous of subjects. My mother thought I had gone over the edge. Last weekend I finally convinced my parents to watch a video of WTC 7 falling. They were both rendered absolutely speechless. My mother told me that my father has been watching the video over and over since that day, that she can tell that 'it bothers him'. I don't think that I'll ever see Fox as anything more than the propaganda arm of the GOP but, in this instance, I credit the network for softening the wall of resistance that many, like my parents, have developed about 9/11.


I concur!

Hear that a-holes, you cointelpro, operation mockingbird lurkers?!!!

F U!

We win.

The truth and history is on our side, and so is justice and therefore God himself.

Even Glenn Beck can no longer ignore the truth about 9/11, even though it's killing him in the process and potentially jeapardizing his 50 million/yr Fox Network contract..

It's all going to break through, and it is. Everyone's on the Net now and they are turning Fox and CNN OFF!

Question: What is the number ONE searched topic on the Internet for this past decade..? Eh?

So who and what wins the psych war in this case? The truth itself, and the truth its on our side, not the MSM's or the official beaurocracy or the "relevant political class" (Zelikow). For all of them, the truth about 9/11 is a very dirty little secret and a corrupting influence separating them from the will and the trust of the people of the USA and the world.

9/11 truth therefore holds the key to the re-establishment of US moral authority, an absolute prerequisit for authentic global leadership, that is Civilized.

This is a story about barbarism vs. Civility.

Robert Rice reporting.

With respect Robert...

bombastic notions about "US moral authority" and " global leadership" are part of the problem.

Fox News. Change of Shift. Completely Un-Self-Aware..

what are the broadcast dates of these two segments?

It is truly amazing that on one had they can laugh and snicker and then act so confident that they are breaking new investigative ground.

Blood pressure rising...

Who is that babbling, whining, little chimp? I've GOT to write him a little note.


Incompetence has been the fall back position for years. I talked to a Coast Guard station commander about 9/11 at a party several years ago. He was very well versed in the 9/11 truth movement's strongest evidence, and he went out of his way to try and convince me how screwed up the communications were and how 9/11 was akin to an episode of Keystone Kops. I had the feeling even then that he had been carefully coached on what to say. Good actor he was, he was selling it to everyone there and made me look like an unpatriotic ass in front of the others. (although today many many of those same people at that party are awakened in spite of the Commander's vehement denials).


October 10, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff    SOURCE:  CLICK HERE

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor


Do we all have to apologize to the Iranian president? Who’s going to tell Jon Stewart? Will he be less of a “bigot” now? Coincidences are piling up. Will he admit to his “anal/rectal confluence?”

Two weeks ago, President Ahmadinejad of Iran called for a UN investigation of 9/11. He was called a lunatic by President Obama. Now, Fox News, new owner of Farsi 1, Iran’s biggest entertainment network, has blown the lid off 9/11, calling it a “whitewash” and saying that the 9/11 Commissioners staged a coverup.

What can we say we have proven? Can we prove Israel was involved? No. Can we make a case, based on both direct testimony, documentary and circumstantial evidence, that they were involved and that failing to investigate this is part of a conspiracy? Yes.

Do we have to prove how it was done? No. Was Osama bin Laden involved? We don’t know. It depends. The only way he could have been involved is if he were still working for the CIA and under their control.

Who should the next guest be? Attorney General Eric Holder?

“Mr. Holder, based on what we have just heard from these two highly reliable sources, clear evidence of a massive criminal conspiracy within the United States government, how do you suggest dealing with this problem?”

Yes, and with all of this, can you even IMAGINE...............

.................that the media group that calls themselves "alternative", like DemocracyNow and Counterpunch and Commondreams, antiwar.com, Alternet, etc..................are STILL not presenting the 9/11 truth story.
Worse still, many still try to tell me that the people that run those outlets just don't understand, or are confused, and just don't see a good story in all of this.

I'm watching as at least here and there in the msm a bit of 9/11 truth is seeping out.
But Amy Goodman, Joshua Holland, Alexander Cockburn, and Justin Raimondo, and Matt Taibbi just don't have any idea of the massive evidence that is at their doorstep anytime they want to present it.
We are waiting...................and waiting..............as the years roll by.................


Here we go folks, now all the MSM and the average person on the street will profess to know the real truth about 911 and how our government covered up it's incompetence. The fallback position has been defined and the only positive I can see is that Zelicow is going to be the Fall Guy!

We will meet them on the street with DVDs and Truth

"the average person on the street will profess to know the real truth about 911 and how our government covered up it's incompetence."

a chink in the psychological armor.



The birds they sang
at the break of day
Start again
I heard them say
Don't dwell on what
has passed away
or what is yet to be.
Ah the wars they will
be fought again
The holy dove
She will be caught again
bought and sold
and bought again
the dove is never free.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

We asked for signs
the signs were sent:
the birth betrayed
the marriage spent
Yeah the widowhood
of every government --
signs for all to see.

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

Ring the bells that still can ring ...

You can add up the parts
but you won't have the sum
You can strike up the march,
there is no drum
Every heart, every heart
to love will come
but like a refugee.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in.

And you can't unring

a rung bell.

keep ringing the bell people, over and over again, and watch, as it reverberates throughout all the spheres and back again.

I've been around this movement since 2002, and oh my what progress we have made in spite of a near complete mass media blackout.

History looking back will get this thing straight, can't not - the buildings they did not "collapse", that's not what happened.

Pretty simple observation - the buildings did not "collapse"..

"the buildings they did not "collapse"

"CNN is reporting that there was a third explosion.....

..that caused the WTC 1 to collapse within itself ."

a crack in everything...That's how the light gets in.

Recognition of truth comes in gradient steps.

Thanks Tom

Leonard Cohen is magnificent.

Zelikow Follow Up Non- Existent

At the end of this clip, Judge Napolitano says they will be inviting Zelikow to be on the show next week. This is never going to happen, since the show tapes during the day and vampires can't be exposed to sunlight without melting.