Sign this "Declaration Against Racial Incitement and Slander" Based on the Lies of 9/11

link:  http://www.aldeilis.net/english/index.php

18 September 2010 19:35

Declaration against racial incitement and slander

To add your name to the list of signatories, send an email to the coordinator at

eliasdav@t-online.de

A.  On the basis of the study "No evidence that Muslims hijacked planes on 9/11" by Elias Davidsson (2008), that we have carefully examined, and other similar studies, we undersigned are now convinced that the U.S. authorities did not prove [beyond reasonable doubt*] their account on the mass murder of September 11, 2001, in particular their claim that Muslims/Arabs committed this crime.  

B.  The presumption of innocence, as a civilised principle, is enshrined in Article 11 (1) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, according to which, every person "charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law (...)" While the presumption of innocence was particularly drafted to protect the rights of persons already charged of a penal offence, it evidently applies to persons who have not even been formally accused of any offence.  

C.  On the basis of the above findings, we consider the publication and dissemination of the allegation that  Muslim/Arabs committed the mass murder of 9/11, as a grievous and unconscionable form of character assassination. Such an allegation violates the principle of the presumption of innocence. It also violates Articles 1, 3, 5 and 8 of the Declaration of Principles on the Conduct of Journalists of the International Federation of Journalists, the Code of Ethics of the Society of Professional Journalists, the Statement of Principles of the American Society of Newspaper Editors (ASNE), and Resolution 1003 on the ethics of journalism, adopted by the Council of Europe in 1993.

D.  We, therefore, call upon journalists to refrain henceforth from attributing, either directly or indirectly, the commission of the mass murder of 9/11 to Muslims or Arabs or to any Muslim or Islamic organisation; to publicise the unreported fact that the U.S. authorities did not produce any evidence of Muslim/Arab participation in the actual mass murder of 9/11; and to publish an apology to the families of those maligned, without foundation, for the mass murder of 9/11.

(*) The requisite standard of proof in US criminal cases

First Signatories,

Dr. Kevin Barrett, Arabic-Islamic Studies; author, radio host. USA. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Barrett
Hartmut Barth-Engelbart, Author, Musician, Cabarttist, Gruendau/Hanau, Germany
Dr. med. Eric Beeth, Brussels, Belgium
Suzanne Borho, Professor for English, Daegu Catholic University, South Korea
James R. Carr, Professor, Geological Sciences and Engineering, University of Nevada, Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
John B. Cobb, Jr. Prof. Emeritus, Claremont School of Theology. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Cobb
Anthony Deegan, Helsinki, Finland
Dr. Kee Dewdney, Coordinator, Physics911 site, Canada
Bernd Juergen Dröge, Psychological Counselor, Muenster, Germany
John Duddy, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Dr. med. Carlucci Enzo, Neuchâtel, Schweiz
Prof. James Fetzer, USA. (See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Henry_Fetzer)
Anneliese Fikentscher, Arbeiterfotografie, Köln, Germany, www.arbeiterfotografie.com
Dr. Freddy Gardiol, Honorary Professor (ret.), Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL), Lausanne, Switzerland. Founder and former Director of the Laboratory of Electromagnetism and Acoustics at EPFL. Life Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE).
Reinhard Gebhart, Author, Germany
Paul F. Getty, DDS (dentist), North Carolina, USA
Dr. David L Griscom, Research Physicist (ret.), Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C. USA
Dr. Sabine Grund, Berlin, Germany
Nicole Guihaumé, Paris, France
Jean-Luc Guilmot, Bio-Engineer, MBA, Liège, Belgium. Editor of http://vigli.org
Mohd Azmi Abdul Hamid, Secretary General, Malaysian Muslim NGOs Consultative Council (MAPIM), Jelapang, Perak, Malaysia
Dr. Niels Harrit, Associate Professor, Dept. of Chemistry, U. of Copenhagen, Denmark
Klaus Hartmann, Chairman, German Federation of Freethinkers, Germany
Sander Hicks, media activist, community organizer and journalist, USA, http://www.sanderhicks.com/
Folker Hoffmann, Borås, Sweden, http://principiis-obsta.blogspot.com/
Carol Holland, NY 911 Truth Activist
Ingar Holst, Department of Semantics, The Ahlefeldt-Holst Center, USA
Prof. Steven Jones, American physicist. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
Claudia Karas, Palästina-Forum Nahost, Frankfurt, Germany
Dr. Ed Kendrik, ReDiscover911.com Development Group, Charter Member of Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth, USA
Yakup Kilic, Musician, Berlin, Germany
Hans-Peter Koehn, Social Manager, Germany
Dr. Pétur Knútsson (ret.), University of Iceland, Reykjavik, Iceland
Anthony Lawson, international prize-winning commercials director, cameraman, film and video editor, Thailand
Prof. Dr. David MacGregor, Canada (See also: http://publish.uwo.ca/~mcgregor/publications.html)
Dr. Graeme MacQueen, (ret.), McMaster University, Canada
Feroze Mithiborwala, Writer and analyst on international affairs; President: Awami Bharat, Mumbai, India
Rowland Morgan, co-author of "9/11 Revealed" (London & NY, 2005), author of "Flight 93 Revealed" (London & NY, 2006), and of VOICES (internet publication 2009), Great-Britain
Andreas Neumann, Arbeiterfotografie, Köln Germany
Dr. Yavuz Özuguz, Director of the Encyclopaedia of Islam, eslam.de and author, Germany
Larry L. Payne, Partner, Digital Illustrator, Castell, Texas, USA
Klaus von Raussendorff, Author, Germany
Vincent Robeyns, teacher, campaigner for truth, Liège, Belgium
Dr. Erik A. Röyrvik, Research Fellow, Norway
Henk Ruyssenaars, Senior foreign correspondent, Foreign Press Foundation, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Kevin Ryan, former Site Manager for Underwriters Laboratories, USA
Dr. med. Pascal Sacré, Bruxelles, Belgique
Dr. Peter Dale Scott, Professor Emeritus of English, University of California, Berkeley, http://www.peterdalescott.net
John Spritzler, Sc.D., author of The People as Enemy: The Leaders’ Hidden Agenda in World War II, co-editor of www.NewDemocracyWorld.org, and author or co-author of numerous articles about HIV infection in medical journals, USA
Thomas Immanuel Steinberg, Steinberg Research, Hamburg, Germany, www.SteinbergRecherche.com
Willi Uebelherr, IT engineer, Halle, Germany
Dr. med. Jens Wagner, member of the Association of Physicians Against Nuclear Arms, Stade,
Germany
Dr. med. Gabriele Weber, Netzwerkerin, Cafe Palestine, Freiburg, Germany
Sabine Werner, Bonn, Germany
Carole Wilson, Bastrop, Louisiana, USA
Gerhard Wisnewski, Journalist, Author, Munich, Germany. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Wisnewski (in German)
Wojna, Musician, Die Bandbreite, Germany
Sami Yildirim, physicist, Germany
Barrie Zwicker, Media critic and author, Canada

 

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March 2010

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An appeal to anti-war organizations & activists to oppose the increasing threats against Iran

Around the world, anti-war activists are preparing for major protests this spring to oppose the continuing U.S.-led occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile, a storm of developments is dramatically increasing tensions between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran. In response, the Campaign Against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran (CASMII) is issuing this appeal to the anti-war movements in the United States, United Kingdom and other countries to raise the demands of “No war, no sanctions, no internal interference in Iran!”

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These statements are too bold and broad to sign

from the decleration:

"to publicise the unreported fact that the U.S. authorities did not produce any evidence of Muslim/Arab participation in the actual mass murder of 9/11"

The key word here is ANY. This is NOT true. Trying to make 9/11 Truth look like we don't think there were any Arab or Muslim connections to 9/11 is a mistake. It is just factually false. There were arabs and maybe even muslims involved with 9/11 on some scale. So bold statements like the one above are simply false and illogical.

And oh yea, look who signed the memo:

Kevin Barrett!!
Jim Fetzer!!

Yikes people, when do we start seeing the games being played early on? Similar to Tarpley's infamous KBW warning, this declaration is too broadly worded so it makes 9/11 Truth sound extremist and crazy.

And btw, the Iranian sight you link to has some pretty silly and extremist sounding articles about Ahmadinejad and about the holocaust http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/9295 I don't see much at all about 9/11 or 9/11 truth on that page.

Well, that YOU don't like the declaration is................

.................fine. Don't sign it.
I don't think you have such great arguments that others should not sign it.

I do NOT agree with this statement of yours: "There were arabs and maybe even muslims involved with 9/11 on some scale".
I have not seen that proven.

And, if you don't like Kevin Barrett or Jim Fetzer, fine. I don't think you need to badmouth other people here. This wasn't the place to villify them.

AND, so what if an Iranian "sight" has some silly stuff. So does the NYTimes and so does Counterpunch, which you defend vigorously. If I see something about 9/11 on a media site, even if I don't fully agree, I post it here, mainly so EVERYTHING about 9/11 truth can be found here by others who want to know what the rest of the world is learning about 9/11. I post articles written by 9/11 truth deniers also.

I have great admiration for anyone who supports 9/11............not everything about them, but at least I admire their courage and support of 9/11.

Kdub, I don't think you could sign this declaration because we might find out who you are! HAHAHAHAHA

Classy

It seems prof. Griffin's book on Sunstein has gone completely to your head. This level of suspicion isn't healthy. I know his name. You are out of line.

Perhaps Barret would like to sign a statement condemning anti-semitism and Holocaust denial too? How about attacks on those who lost loved ones on 9/11, such as Cosmos/YT?

The article

which this declaration is based on, can be found at OpEdNews. However, it can only be viewed through an annoying pagination mechanism. I have registered to sidestep this annoyance, and for your convenience, here is the printer-friendly direct link that is also obscured from non-registrars.

http://www.opednews.com/populum/print_friendly.php?p=There-is-no-evidenc...

I cached it also: http://www.webcitation.org/5tmPQyXWs

thanks....................

not sure what "pagination mechanism" is, but somehow I think you have done us some good here.

By the way, it is cool how I can predict how when I reply to Kdub, you will show up. I love it. I feel, well, sort of clairvoyant or something.

Do you two live together or something?

I think you should make up a Declaration. I'd really love to see one that we could ALL sign without being upset about this or that.
I really think this is needed.
Would you be interested in making up one? You can count on my signature.
You guys know a lot about what 9/11 truth is about, the people involved, and what would fly.
Think about it.

Petition

I would just sign a petition that says: "I am against racism of any kind."

By the way, my name (Michiel de Boer) and my location (The Netherlands) are on my profile, and have been for quite a while. You are aware that kdub is an American who phoned in to Alan Colmes.

Please pfgetty respond the points I bring up, why so personal?

Despite all of your amazingly immature personal attacks (which just discredit themselves), you have failed to address my critique of the petition plain and simple.

You pfgetty claim and so does the petition that there were NO arabs or muslims at all, on any scale, involved in the attack. This is completely false.

You also were even willing to acknowledge at least that the page you link to has some "silly things" on the website you linked to at the bottom(this puts it lightly for there are extremely radical things on that page which are false, considered racist, and in some cases are basic holocaust denial.)

I encourage all of us to be critical of all posts that people put on 9/11 Blogger no matter what the source. I appreciate that we see articles on many sides of 9/11 and that we can be equally critical of all sources.

"pfgetty" my personal identity, not only is none of your business, it should be none of your concern on these threads. How about just responding to some questions and points I brought up reasonably? (I have been very public about my opinions and have taken part many times in the 11th of the Month Truth Action campaign, out on the street, in public, on videos, I don't hide my name on the radio) You have spoken in a very childish manner which has been conveyed through extremely personal, even homophobic insults. Actually "pfgetty" you owe me an apology, that would be an adult thing to do at this point. Your response above to critical thought was to change the subject to personal attacks because I think you are confused and are taking analysis personally.

The petition, and I, do not claim

there were no Arabs on that day involved in the attacks. It says there is no evidence that Arabs or Muslims participated.
I am well aware of the passports, etc. I'd hope you don't consider that as evidence.

Don't you think it is odd that as soon as one of you replies, the other one does, yet I go from one subject to another without seeing any comments from either of you.
I don't know what it means. I just thought it was funny. Sorry if it offended you. But it IS something that I just thought was interesting in a funny way.

I'm sorry if I have offended you in other ways. Sometimes it is hard to know just how sensitive another person is, not knowing who they are or how they are reacting as one is discussing these topics, ...............not seeing faces makes it particularly hard.

Email me sometime if you want and we can have a more personal kind of discussion and get to know each other a bit more so we can understand where each of us is coming from. My email address is pfgetty@embarqmail.com.
I'm sure you will find I am a very likeable person, and I'm sure you are also.
You just haven't seemed so on these back and forth comments. You haven't seemed really offensive, just sort of arrogantly critical, needlessly so in my opinion. But, as I say, this is not a great way to get to know someone.

pfgetty wrote: "It says there

pfgetty wrote:

"It says there is no evidence that Arabs or Muslims participated."

Exactly. This is just plain wrong. It's to loosely worded. Participated could apply to a very small amount of involvement of some sub aspect of the attack. It's just a statement that is false because it isn't specific enough. So when debunkers and people who attack the movement see these types of broad brush statements, they smear us for it because we (in regard to the broad brush FALSE statement) are LITERALLY wrong. We may be right on some level, but we didn't get specific enough so we are discredited!

pfgetty wrote:

"Don't you think it is odd that as soon as one of you replies, the other one does, yet I go from one subject to another without seeing any comments from either of you.
I don't know what it means. I just thought it was funny. Sorry if it offended you. But it IS something that I just thought was interesting in a funny way.

I'm sorry if I have offended you in other ways. Sometimes it is hard to know just how sensitive another person is, not knowing who they are or how they are reacting as one is discussing these topics, ...............not seeing faces makes it particularly hard.

Email me sometime if you want and we can have a more personal kind of discussion and get to know each other a bit more so we can understand where each of us is coming from. My email address is pfgetty@embarqmail.com.
I'm sure you will find I am a very likeable person, and I'm sure you are also.
You just haven't seemed so on these back and forth comments. You haven't seemed really offensive, just sort of arrogantly critical, needlessly so in my opinion. But, as I say, this is not a great way to get to know someone."

There is nothing funny or odd about the fact that two people happen to see and state specific issues with some articles you post, in most cases more than two people. My offense towards your comments is simply because they are childish, accusatory (in a very baseless way), and don't even respond to my issues i brought up about this particular post of the petition. Now I most certainly don't care to get to know you personally. For you, pfgetty, have always pushed to make things so personal, in your responses above and in a few other threads where you must resort to sad attacks on my character or claiming I won't identify myself instead of just, I don't know......maybe responding to the points I and others bring up. There are to many friends and adults I work with who I can have rational mature discussions with even though I may disagree with them far more than you "pfgetty". I think you indeed want the truth and to spread the truth. We must use this as a common ground to work together on. Jumping to accusatory positions discredits ones points. If we stick to the subject at hand and critical analysis there of, we can figure out the truth.

I'll leave you with this,
I know very well how frustrating it is to figure out I was wrong about something. It is important however than when I do figure out that I am wrong and am proven so, that I accept this conclusion and move on with strength. It is also important that I don't hold it against those who where put in the position of pointing out to me a mistake I made. Usually those pointing it out to me don't mean for their correction to be a personal attack. I'm sorry if in the past I have come off as trying to attack you (pfgetty) by pointing out some problems with articles or links you have posted. I have made many mistakes in my years related specifically to bad information/affiliations I was spreading. Because of this experience, I feel it important to help those I see spreading some of the same bad information/affiliations I spread at one time. This is not just to help the reputation of 9/11 Truth itself, but also to help the valuable activists and bloggers and researchers (like pfgetty here) to not waste their time as I did spreading false or dis-information.

I guess

you can call him Paul F. Getty, since he signed the petition, unless his alias is a coincidence. My name is Michiel de Boer, I'm not anonymous either, and neither are you, since you called into Alan Colmes. I guess it's the anonymity of the internet (which I appreciate, by the way) and the phenomenon of pseudonyms that fuels this.

And.. I'm sad to say Prof. Griffin's book about Sunstein has had anything but a positive effect on the movement. I can't read Sunstein's mind, but if his aim was to sow discord and distrust w.r.t. allegiances in the TM, he roundly succeeded. Baseless snitchjacketing... it's fodder for the bottom feeders. We go into 2011, with everybody calling everybody else 'a disinfo agent'... how ingenious. This is not how it works, folks. Unless you start presenting information that truly threatens the establishment, they are not interested in you. If you spread flawed info, you are doing their work for them. Exposing the ways of the MIC requires surgical excision, not wild conjecture and ill-informed palaver. Some work rises to the occasion, but then fails miserably in the end stages. This is even more dangerous, because it causes hordes of truthers to jump on the bandwagon, amplifying the damage a millionfold.

We don't have senior editors, like in a professional newspaper, who come up to us and say: this piece you just wrote? It's speculative, unscientific, unsupported, poorly sourced, error-ridden garbage. Instead, we are our own peer reviewers, and if we don't step up our game, we're going to be ate up and chewed out by who hold themselves to higher standards.

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