While dissing Jon Stewart Bill Maher injects the topic of 9/11 into the mainstream..
Orangutan. Sat, 11/06/2010 - 12:31pm
(just after the 2 minute mark..)
"When Jon announced his rally, he said the national conversation was dominated by people on the Right who believe Obama’s a Socialist and people on the Left who believe 9/11’s an inside job, but I can’t name any Democratic leaders who think 9/11’s an inside job. But Republican leaders who think Obama’s a Socialist…all of them.”
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The real shame here is that if Bill would only tell the
whole truth about 911 and the Neocon agenda , he may very well wake up in a reasonable world someday.
I personally would feel better if he didn't mention 911 at all! He knows about building 7 and just keeps his hands over his eyes claiming to see no evil. By constantly denigrating 911 truth he indirectly endorses the status quo and obscures the vision of the masses.
Bill Maher is usually so on
Bill Maher is usually so on target, and I've always liked him, and so when we get dissed by him, it really hurts personally. I'm thinking of going over there and copy/pasting onto his commentary thread, the words from the many military intelligence officials, (not Left leaning at all) to set straight reality.
Can't help but wonder if he is being paid off, or is being told, he will lose his show, unless he starts derailing us. Remember most networkds are owned by defense industry invested folks.
I'm curious, are you all around here, among us getting told (by friends that know we are right) to give it up, because nothing is going to happen to bring the public up to speed? I have to admit, that the task of waking up people, in my circle, and anyone that will listen, has become obsessive. But, on the other hand, how is one to calmly disregard this horror, when it is especially so blatantly obvious that explosions were present? I'd never have guessed that denial could be so firmly intact in the psyches of the many. The cowardice we encounter is truly, deeply sad, to see it so prevalent among so many. After seeing the guts of our fine scientists, and many professionals, and of the firefighters, the contrast of the many that don't even have the courage, or strength of character to look at the evidence, so disheartening. I am grateful to have all here to share the struggle with. Without you all here, I'd be a complete wreck, more so than I am. LOL Thanks.
apahthy
Is the fuel that the official stroy burns to keep it momentum. I have larned that the real problem is the elitist humans that are in control of all of this, they have been in control since well before I was born and it seems as though they will continue.
What we have to remember is the shift in society with the change in how we gain our information. The PNAC was formed in the mid 90's, my first email account was opened in 1999 and now I spend more time communicating on a computer than I do watching television, listening to radio or reading a newspaper.
These elitists may have massivly underestimated the internet, it seems they somehow keep the apathy rolling but the information is there for us all to learn about them and it was not (so much) before.
We have come to a time where people that were not even born in 2001 are now ready to study the events, if we keep up the pressure we have a great chance of winning this battle of information.
I have debated for years on my favorite forum about 9/11 and there was always a straw man argument that was somhow related to the subject that would detract from the point. but now with the red grey chips and the peer reviewd paper, and the iron rich spheres they are corners into ignorance. They have to ignore prudent evidence to keep to thier story. and this is the point where those that sit on the fence are swayed into breaking the ice and coming aboard the truth movement.
I too, would be completely frustrated without the efforts of many here.
Thanks everyone for you efforts and energy. it is much appreciated.
I liked Bill Mahr when he was on ABC
At least then he tried to bring on differing opinions and have a real conversation, like this clip with Robert Sheer. I wonder if his current incarnation would invite Sheer today. I doubt it. What does that mean?
Suggestion
I have a suggestion to all here who are on Facebook. Let's ALL of us on FB, copy/ paste some highly credentialed professionals' statements from Patriots Question 911, and drop them onto our page. That should have a profound impact, considering how much traffic comes here tn 911 Blogger. How about it? The realization of how ridiculous the Maher statements are will start registering.
Incidentally, I tried doing that over at Bill Maher's and I had the experience of typing the letters into the commentary, confirming I wasn't a motorized spam operation, but over and over, it said I got the letters wrong, although, I knew for sure I got them right, until I abandoned it.
I liked him better on ABC too, remember why he got kicked off?
it had to do with 9/11 ! i don't think many people in the movement remember that he made a comment on Politically Incorrect shortly after 9/11 about how it's absurd that people keep calling the hijackers 'cowards' since clearly they were very dedicated to their cause and committed suicide for it (parroting the official story at the time but disputing the notion that they were 'cowardly')
ABC cancelled his show i think the next day, his comments created a media firestorm 'Has maher gone too far?' at the time it was just as big of a story as Don Imus' 'nappy headed' comment.
My take? Bill Maher was scared straight from loosing his job because of his 9/11 comments contradicting the mainstream mindset at the time. I personally believe he is psychologically troubled himself about what he believes about 9/11, the level of critical thinking and examination he seems to have done in regards to 9/11 since he lost his job have been zilch. I think the only time since then he came close to being even remotely on our side is when on Larry King, King asked him what he thought Bush should be impeached for. Maher quickly exclaimed 'well he should have been impeached for not stopping 9/11 and sitting there for 15 minutes after he was told the country was under attack'
Even though he's on HBO now, he's turned severely 'centrist' in the sense that most of his views and the views of his pundits reflect mainstream washington beltway thought.
In the old days he would have porno stars, comedians, christian crazies (like odonnel) and a whole cast of a characters that brought interesting viewpoints to the discussion
Now it seems like you're just watching Morning Joe with a lot more swearing and attempts at comedy.
Did I miss something?
My girlfriend and I watched the Bill Maher clip, and both of us thought his comment about 9/11 being an inside job neither dissed nor supported 9/11 truth. His statement, at least to us, appeared neutral, which I think is good thing, because with limited risk, it puts 9/11 truth in the national spotlight.
given his history
on comments about 911Truth, I think it's safe to paraphrase this comment to mean: "I don't know any Democrat politicians who believe [the loony theory] that 911 was an inside job." If he's changed his view, he hasn't told anyone.
I think...
...the problem is not the tone he used. The problem is that he says the "crazies" on the Right who believe Obama's a socialist are equals to the "crazies" on the Left who think 9/11 was an inside job, at the other side of the spectrum... Which is a lame association, not unlike matching us with conspiracies such as the holocaust deniers...
Funny that liberal
Funny that liberal intellectuals like Maher have no trouble commenting on and dissecting many of the lies of the Bush wars and neocons and right wing crazies, yet they buy the most conspicuous lie of the Bush administration to date- the official 9/11 story.
That Maher mentioned preferring to get scientific information from scientists rather than the politicians on the left or right, opens the door for him to receive our scientific documentation. So do you Bill really respect science that much? Let's see....
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Check out Maher's piece with war criminal and ultra-radical Zionist Bibi Netanyahu. I don't think I've ever seen such a fawning and craven interview in my life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izxfchcWga0
Whether cuddling up with Netanyahu, Salman Rushdie or Chris Hitchens, Maher's show has been a great vehicle for the demonizing of Muslims and the dissemination of war on terror propaganda.
He called the illegal invasion of Afghanistan "the right war" (on Larry King) when events in Iraq started to go south. He's a coward and a hypocrite. Nuff said.
Thanks, Danse, now I've lost
Thanks, Danse, now I've lost all respect for him. Hey, if we are blogging around the internet, we should drop in various sites things such as this. I copy/pasted it. More often than not, you can talk til you are blue in the face, and most won't click onto links left by me, but when I drop this (below) in, as well as many others, no one can say we are a bunch of crazies. God knows that this is just one of many many many and growing.
Michael Scheuer, PhD – Former Chief of the CIA's bin Laden unit (aka Alec Station), the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorism Center 1996 - 1999. Special Adviser to the Chief of the bin Laden unit, September 2001 to November 2004. 22-year CIA career. Currently author, political analyst and media commentator. Adjunct Professor of Security Studies, Georgetown University. Former Senior Fellow at the Jamestown Foundation, writing regularly for its online publication Global Terrorism Analysis. Author of Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America (2002, originally published anonymously), Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror (2004, originally published anonymously), Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam After Iraq (2008)
* Interviewed by Judge Andrew Napolitano on Fox News 10/9/10:
Michael Scheuer: What the Colonel (Anthony Shaffer, former Chief of the Army’s Controlled HUMINT (Human Intelligence) Program) is absolutely correct on is that the 9/11 Commission and the Commissioners themselves were just there to whitewash it. They were blessed with the most brilliant staff you could imagine. But as Commissioners they were clearly there to not let the American people know what happened before 9/11.
Judge Napolitano: Was the 9/11 Commission report a whitewash as Colonel Shaffer says and as one of the 9/11 Commissioners to whom he spoke, and you heard him talk about this person, pretty much agrees?
Michael Scheuer: It was a whitewash and a lie from top to bottom, Judge
Judge Napolitano: What do you mean "a lie from top to bottom", Michael?
Michael Scheuer: Well in my own case, sir, the Agency officers who were involved before 9/11 in chasing bin Laden decided that we could not simply testify under oath without providing supporting documentation. And so all of us, both testified under oath. I did, I think three times and provided documents. I provided myself, let me speak just for myself here, Judge, I provided a three inch binder with over 400 pages of documentation -- not my notes, but official government documents about the failures before 9/11. I never heard one word back from Zelikow. And I approached Zelikow. He asked me for the notebook. I told him it was available. He asked me for it and he never got in touch to talk about one page of material.
Judge Napolitano: You obviously know what was in the loose leaf and I know you read the 9/11 Commission report. Did anything from the loose leaf make its way into the final report?
Michael Scheuer: ... Not the important stuff. The important stuff did not. ...
At 11:25 of the video at http://www.youtube.com
* Bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scheuer
For Anyone Who Has Not Seen It. This is FUNNY!
Bill Maher "New Rules" 9/11
Willful Ignorance? Or Asininity?
Bill Maher isn't stupid, although he can be pretty ignorant sometimes. (some of the most intelligent people I've ever met have been some of the most ignorant people I've ever met)
Like Bill's thinking that young girls can be molested by men, but young boys cannot be molested by women. (they're just "lucky little bastards" -- of course, those of us who "know" Bill know he has some (very obviously fairly severe) "issues" with his sexuality, which is an unfortunate state of affairs, and generally sad)
So his comment of "But I can't name any Democratic leaders who think 9/11 is an inside job." is either willful ignorance, at best, or pure ignorance and bad research at worst.
If you want to cut him too much slack, you could say he was just "making a point". But I would not be surprised if he really thought that there were no Dem leaders who are, if not 9/11 Truthers, at least questioning and objective,and truly interested in the real truth regarding 9/11.
Maybe he doesn't count Jesse Ventura because he's not an active Governor now. (or can he truthfully not be counted as a "Dem" because he is an "ind", even though he's basically a Dem?) And what about the several others, who are at various stages of 9/11 Truth belief and acceptance. Most 9/11 Truthers can name at least a handful without thinking too hard.
And that doesn't include the many others, who, although they may not be "Dem leaders", are at various stages of celebrity and notoriety.
Bill Maher is a jackass. One day, probably in the not too distant future, perhaps when it is "safer", he will join our team. And, like some do, he will justify and excuse his past ignorance. I would hope he will be embarrassed and ashamed that it took him so long, but he probably won't be. Mostly because he is too much of a jackass too much of the time and revels in asininity, especially when it is "convenient".