Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Steve R. Pieczenik says "9/11 was a false flag operation, I would tell this in court"

The above video is an excerpt from an interview between Alex Jones and Dr. Steve Pieczenik entitled 'Bin Laden, The Oswald Like Patsy Died 10 Years Ago'. In this excerpt Pieczenik speaks about both 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden, though it was his statements about 9/11 that inspired me make this particular part of the interview available here.

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job. Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a "conspiracy theorist". He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT. Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, "the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government," while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world. Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush's election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus. The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

The above is from the article here:

Full interview here:


How come Steve Piecznek, insider extradordinaire, advisor to kings, has not gathered together the forces necessary to ARREST THE CRIMINALS?

I'm still learning, what's

I'm still learning, what's your angle on why?

I'm not an insider

so I can only guess. My guess is since he is an insider he has the same restraints as any other person who tries to bite the hand that feeds him. He goes along to get along.

He's an admitted PSY-OP architect. I can't trust him for that reason alone.

Know him by his actions. Where are they? Where are his patriotic actions designed to rid of us of Rumsfeld, Rice, Cheney, Bush and the rest of the cesspool over at PNAC?

It's part of his clever psyop to keep us all fixated on this OSAMA/OBAMA/OSAMA nonsense and off WTC7, energetic dust and the NORAD stand down.


IGNORE THIS IDIOT until he does something besides get paid large to blab on cue.

SHOW UP IN FRONT OF THE GRAND JURY, Steve!! With all your insider buddies.

Stand up like Sibel Edmonds. Show us who you are. Grow a spine for crying out loud.

AND quit jerking my chain.

He is on "Infowars" All Week.

If a caller can ask if he is willing to support AE9/11 Truth, Paul Craig Roberts, Ray Mcgovern, Sibel Edmonds at a joint press conference or public endorsment for a real investigation..that would answer a lot of concerns for what he is saying, based on who and what he is.


Let's not be so quick with harsh cynicism or judgement evaluations of people who try to help forward aspects of 9/11 Truth.

I have seen too many GOOD people get creamed by harsh blog comments. Harsh strained criticalness chases away activism and good people. It also can inhibit others from being whistleblowers. We lower our numbers by slamming each other.

Grand Jury - A grand jury has to call witnesses. Witnesses can not "just appear". Typically, prosecutors 'lead' a grand jury.

I respectfully disagree.

He has had almost ten years to come forward, into the light, like Sibel Edmonds. Instead he hides in the shadows. There are no known pictures of him.

"Harsh, strained criticalness"? On the contrary, I believe criticism in this case is long overdue. If activists cannot handle my particular brand of passion, so be it. Perhaps criticism should be taken one step further and ask for a Grand Jury to subpoena Mr. Pieczenik to tell what he professes to know, namely that a top general revealed directly to him that 9/11 was a false flag attack.

I believe a grand jury takes testimony from the prosecutor and the grand jury decides if there is enough evidence to bring charges. (Actually, it would be a "special grand jury" because they would not only return a true bill but would investigate organized corruption in government.) It is Steve's responsibility to inform the prosecutor that he has evidence of TREASON and MURDER.

By failing to notify a prosecutor, Steve is setting himself up for Misprision of Treason, because, presumably, he has taken an Oath to defend the Constitution.

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2382. Misprision Of Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

Additionally, he is setting himself up for

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 1 > § 4. Misprision Of Felony

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both

Am I that far off the mark?

Somebody has fallen down on the job here. All I am saying is if he's such an insider, surely he has more than enough contacts to follow through on his offer to testify. He hobs with the biggest knobs in government. He already told us he is not alone. He should not hesitate. He has so many contacts that they would never allow any harm to come to him.

Please!! Do what you say you can do, Steve. Your credentials will not be questioned. You will succeed where others may fail.

Or is it just a lot of hot air? Just another tangled web you weave for us?

But I'm just a frustrated nobody. So this whole thread will quickly be pushed far down the page, never to be seen again.

oversimplifying the issue

with this justice fascist system, he is wise in being realistic.. just speaking out as a person with his background is a tremendous contribution for the 9/11 truth movement.


I wonder why this guy hasn't spoken up earlier on the issue of 9/11 and why he won't tell the media who this anonymous general is. I think its time to start saying what you know if you know it.

In 2002 I think he spoke out

as days pass, always new different version of the raid comes out

as days pass, always new different versions of the raid comes out

read this:

and compare with previous version.

and if you look at the gory images of the 4 people killed in the compound released by Reuters, you see how probabily all of them were killed witha bullet in the back or side of the head ( blood and brain on the floor, but faces undamages)

For sure I do not cry for a terrorist death, but shoot-to-kill policy is a nasty thing. as torture-policy.

I thought

The Dr. gave a fine talk. Everything he said was right on the money. As we all know we need a new Government and the 9/11sham story, this Bin Laden farce etc. must be brought out in the open and arrests must be made. Yes, I agree with everything the man said.

Pieczneck say's "you cannot

Pieczneck say's "you cannot psy-op the american and global public a second time or it will bring revolution".

I'm with that.

People die only once

People die only once. Should I take any of this seriously, OBL was either thawed from a freezer (AJ) or he died from Marfan in 2002 (Pieczenik) or he died in December 2001 from natural causes (Lendman)

At the very least, two out of three of these fools are lying to me. So who is it? Fess up.

Precautionary Principle?

I kinda agree with SnowCrash here, although I linked to the Pieczenik interview elsewhere. It sounded to me like Pieczenik thought OBL died of Marfan even before 9/11. AJ seemed to say that OBL was taken out by special forces or whoever when he denied his involvement after-the-fact.

The problem with Pieczenik's take is that it implies the denials of involvement by Bin Laden would have to also be fake if Bin Laden was already dead prior to 9/11 He seems to also be the only source for the Marfan claim. And then we would have had to grab OBL's corpse after he died a natural death so we could put him on ice to shoot him later and take his picture? And if this is true, they would have the real Bin Laden DNA.

Maybe a Precautionary Principle is in order. The key point is that no hard evidence has been provided connecting Bin Laden to 9/11..... and no hard evidence has been provided that we killed Osama Bin Laden. IOW, the government hasn't provided proof that the guy they shot is even the guy who they have no proof for! (regarding Sept. 11). Isn't that enough to push?


Let's be respectful and spread this around.!

This should be front page.

No matter what your concerns or take on this recent development and its source,...this is important 9/11 news and should be treated as such.

After listening to the entire interview, there is no question that this is a major development and we should have an open discussion of what it means, and where this could go......., for better or for worse.

most certainly

I wonder how many are pre-judging Dr. Steve Pieczenik before even listening to the entire interview. Is there anything in the interview that was not helpful regarding 9/11 truth as a false flag operation. I have been sharing this information that Democracy Now will ignore, and 911blogger missed front page news placement. Thank you radical pragmatist in supporting this whistleblower.. and listening to the entire interview. For more details on evidence of Osama being dead for a while, check out this link I received from Kevin Ryan via Facebook.

Yesterday's report of wives and kids proves it was Bin Laden

I listened to Dr. Steve Pieczenik and his statement that Bin Laden was dead in 2001 and "on ice", considered his impressive background, and found it credible.

The story sounded absurd that Bin Laden could have 3 wives and kids, who would want to enjoy the millionaire status of other Bin Ladens, would live in such a run down "mansion" with no social life. Any parent knows that would be very hard to keep kids satisfied with such a life, with no iPods, skateboards, or high speed Internet. Three rich wives didn't want to go out socializing or shopping for fashions? Try stopping even one wife! I was preparing to ridicule the official story and created a graphic (below), but will not be able to use it because...

From the following breaking news report, to my amazement, Bin Laden DID have 3 wives and many kids living such a boring life for years, confined in one compound. They were surprisingly dedicated to live with him, despite the constant danger of being being blown up by a cruise missile, along with their children. Or stupid.

Yahoo News: Wife was 27 year old Amal Ahmed Abdul Fatah. She was from Yemen and married Bin Laden at 15 around 1999.;_ylt=AiV1fqMSRa0iYu39.y.v7wOz17...

If Bin Laden died in 2001, then all the wives and kids would have had to be all "in on it" to pretend to live with him. That would be too far fetched, in my opinion. The CIA could have thought of a much easier situation to fake, such as Bin Laden living with just a few guards. But not with 3 wives, so many helpers, and 23 kids around. Bin Laden's son Hamza was killed. That's too much to fake.

So, unless there is another explanation for the wives and kids living with Bin Laden all these years, I must discount Dr. Pieczenik's claim that Bin Laden was dead for years. I am a fan of Alex Jones, but must sadly conclude he is making a wild claim on this issue. Surprisingly, the Government appears to be telling the truth in this instance; it really was Bin Laden.

But, I'm not a Truster. If time goes by, and we never get supporting evidence for these wives and kids, or 1997 wedding photos, then I will have to suspect they were actors, brought in for the occasion, putting Bin Laden back on ice.

Still, there was Zero reason for a Navy SEAL with body armor to shoot an UNARMED MAN, especially in the head, unless he was to be silenced to prevent his testifying in court.

Sorry but

Without any proof whatsoever for what he is saying, he's just another potential former US gov't nut job along the lines of Morgan Reynalds. Im not falling for it again.

I wish they were all smart

I wish they were all smart like you. Then I could feel accepted in this community. As it is I am not appreciated because I tell people straight up that AJ gives a platform to these clowns and we consume it like pigs in slop. We have to do a better job but at this rate we never will. To be honest I am sad and lonely in this group, you guys don't like me but you are so wrong, let the record show that I tried to intervene, which is better than many people in our time. But since we can't work together we are gonna stay trapped in the house of mkrrors forever. At the moment when 911 is on everyones mind we have missed an historic opportunity to show people our evidence, instead we are putting forward the figures who actively undermine us. Its strange for me to experience being shunned because I am truly intelligent and my insight is valuable, but it is a hostile environment for me here and nobody agrees with me on fundamental issues of evidence and strategy.

Dont worry about it

You're here because you have valid questions about 9/11 and want to see some answers. That's all you need. Don't worry about fitting in to some clique, or that some conspiracy theorists on the internet disagree with you. Just keep doing your own thing and refining your message. Keep reaching out. Remember that not everything has to be a debate and that conversations, the give and take is whats preferable.

You're definitely not alone in your sentiments.


Don't get suckered in folks. More promises from AJ oy vey! Hasn't he done enough to discredit 9/11 truth this year (Charlie Sheen!)? M. Reynolds was exactly who I thought of when I read this. This sounds as honey pot as they come. It's also coming from the greatest conspiracy capitalist around. The man who dragged 9/11 truth into NWO theories, Webster Tarpley, Jim Fetzer, David Yikes, the list goes on and on. Keep your guards up people is all I am saying. Oh did I mention Phil Berg, the head birther who's impotent 9/11 court case mixed in a ton of con theories with truth. Love how "birth certificate" is in the keywords of this article. Public relations are more important than ever right now! Don't get lumped in with the extremist right racist birther theorists anymore and get focused on 9/11 justice.

Please contact Dr. Steve

I realize now that my pent-up frustration got the better of me. I am turning that negative energy towards a solution.

He needs to know that we support him and very much want him to have the opportunity to give his enormously valuable testimony, at the earliest possible moment, to the special grand jury. Time is wasting away. Less than 124 days to September 11th.

Please take a few moments to send a heartfelt message of support.

Contact him here:

thanks for link..

i sent him a note.. my impression is that he is another one of those PatriotsQuestion911

(crap site)

Like Edna Cintron?