3 Senators Fell For Fake Bin Laden Photo ... "The Photo that I Saw and that a Lot of Other People Saw is Not Authentic"


Preface: This post does not speculate on whether or not Bin Laden was actually killed last week or died previously, or on what images the government may possess, but only on what actually happened and what photographs have been released to date.

The White House said that Bin Laden had a weapon and tried to hide behind his wife like a coward. Now, the White House has admitted both claims were false.

Many of the largest news outlets ran a supposed death photo ... but it was quickly proven fake (and see this).

The government now claims that it has a photo showing a dead Bin Laden ... but won't release it.

The photo was supposedly taken in a hangar in Afghanistan. As CNN notes:

Photos of OBLs body at a hangar after he was brought back to Afghanistan. This is the most recognizable with a clear picture of his face. The picture is gruesome because he has a massive open head wound across both eyes. It’s very bloody and gory.

The fact that the photo wasn't taken right after the raid in Pakistan - but in a different country - makes it harder to confirm when the photo was taken.

Moreover, Senator Scott Brown first told Fox News that he had personally seen the gruesome death photo: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/morning/sen-scott-brown-on-attack-ad-bin-laden-20110504

But he later told Fox that he - and a lot of other people - had been shown a fake:

Scott Brown tells FOX25 - "The photo that I saw and that a lot of other people saw is not authentic."

Update: CBS news notes that 2 other senators fell for the fake photo as well:

Two other Senate Republicans, Saxby Chambliss, R-GA, and Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-NH, told CBS News Wednesday morning they had viewed post-mortem images of bin Laden. "Obviously I'm not an expert in this area, he's such a well known figure when you see the picture it clearly has his features," said Ayotte.

But Ayotte released a statement Wednesday afternoon saying that she's not sure the picture was real.

"While I was shown a photo by another senator of what appeared to be a deceased Osama bin Laden, I do not know if it was authentic," she said. "However, I do believe a photo of the dead al Qaeda leader should be released. Although some may be upset by the image of someone who has been shot in the head, releasing a photo is important to put to rest any conspiracy theories that may arise around the world and to provide for closure."

And Chambliss - the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee - released an oblique statement Wednesday afternoon saying in part, "when I see the photos, I can make a judgment about the potential damage they may do."


'Too gruesome to show'

The White House claims to have genuine pictures of the corpse but says the one that looks the 'most like him' is too gruesome to release because of a massive head wound across BOTH EYES. Excuse me but it would be kinda hard to clearly identify anyone in that case. Was the corpse even 6'4 or 6'5?

Why would they lie about him being armed and using a woman as a human shield? If he WASN'T armed why not apprehend him? He had renal failure and perhaps even diabetes and marfa.
But no, they couldn't capture him -- they had to shoot his fucking eyes out (whoever it was) and then take a picture in a hangar somewhere in Afghanistan.

Then dump the body quickly at sea to dispose of the evidence. Withhold whatever picture was taken.... while Senators and others see photoshopped pics by 'the joker'.

hmmm.. I wonder if the corpse still had the jet black beard from the 07 video..... Guess we'll never know.

[Edit]: Other gory pictures from the raid have been released and are graphic. Even shown on TV tonight on FOX. Just not the one of Bin Laden.

He got duped by the fake picture already in the media


From former US Navy Captain Steve Pieczenik, a man who served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter. On Alex Jones Show 5/3 and 5/4/11

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.
“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.
“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik

Photos from the Bin Laden Compound


Discussion On Democratic Underground Re. Pics

One commenter on the thread concerning these pictures suggests that the !st dead body in the series of pictures bears a resemblence to OBL and could be one of his sons.



Also Thursday, two shopkeepers in Pakistani told The Associated Press that the bodies of al-Kuwaiti and his brother are shown in other photos taken in the compound after the raid.

The photos were published by Reuters news agency, which said it had bought them from a Pakistani security official who entered the compound after the assault.

The shopkeepers said they couldn't identify a third man's body in the photos. But by elimination, that would suggest the third man was bin Laden's son, since the Obama administration has said five were killed — bin Laden, his son, the courier, the courier's brother and a woman.

Bin Laden DNA Test Could Be Real

But the test material that gave the positive result as claimed(if there ever was such a test administered) could have been taken from the son and the story embellished to include the presence and death of OBL.

Since the story changes everyday it is hard to believe the official account. This commando execution story is taking on the same quality as the Tillman mystery. As well it bears resemblence to the framing of Bruce Ivins in the powerhouse Anthrax coverup.

Another impenetrable intrigue. So far.


For posting the pictures. Very sick. Just goes to show how far our country has sunk.

This story has been turning and changing for awhile now...

Osama bin Laden Murder Fable: A Work in Progress: Like the official story on the attacks of September 11, 2001, the story on the supposed murder of Osama bin Laden is a work in progress.

The myriad of inconsistencies that continue to be unearthed in light of the White House’s ever-changing account of the alleged capture and assassination of Osama Bin Laden resemble two other war propaganda fables: the “rescue” of Jessica Lynch and the death of Pat Tillman.

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly said that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense.

Dr. Steve Pieczenik

Interesting name

Almost sounds like 'peacenik.'



Stop using caps please, you

Stop using caps please, you sound like Alex Jones!

I guess I'm the bad guy huh?

I guess I'm the bad guy huh? So what, I'd rather be an outcast in this community than to be the type of person who supports an idiot like Alex Jones. You think I'm divisive, ha! On the contrary, I'm a uniter, I'm trying to use real evidence to unite the general public in our call for a new investigation. What you can't see because you are so deep in this conspiracy culture is that the real divisive figures are people like Alex Jones and David Ray Griffin. They provide all the reason in the world for people to stop listening to us. They are popular within a small community, but try telling a random American half of the stuff that you have found on his site, or try mentioning cell phone fakery and see what kind of reaction you get. These people are keeping us back, preventing us from finally breaking through, and with every word you write to support them you are making it harder for us to ever get to where we need to be. So in conclusion you down voters suck and the 911 truth movement is in fucking shambles thanks to you.

You are so negative. You have

You are so negative.

You have been the only one to make accusations in our discussions, so your conclusions about you being the "bad guy" are your own, not mine.

I have not linked or posted AJ material once, why are you talking to me about him so much? Are you obsessing on something maybe?

It must be a bad day, and that happens to us all.

The sun will rise and I look forward to working with you more.

Actually I did say you like

Actually I did say you sound* like Alex Jones for using caps, so I did make an accusation. But it was meant as a joke and lighthearted, I thought even you might find it amusing, but now I think not.


*edit - added "sound"

My original post was a

My original post was a response to Orangutan, and my follow up was not directed at you or your comment, but to the people who downvoted me for telling Orangutan to stop reposting AJ shit. Those people are anonymous so my frustration was directed at nameless individuals whose identity I do not know. I guess it's just more than I can accept, sitting around while the truth movement goes down the fucking toilet. We are never going to win if we go on like this. You know in order to win you have to know how to play, it's like they say "If we can get them asking the wrong questions then it doesn't matter what the answers are".

My only advice is try to

My only advice is try to remain positive and constructive.

Be the change you want to see, right?

There is too much at stake to throw your hands up and say "fuck it".

We are a diverse group of people, and we are smart-enough for just being here, what is the toughest is working together in a cohesive and constructive way.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in "perfection" and we can always have a debate or disagree...

(Adding comments to a thread you don't like only brings that thread back up to the top of the tracker anyway)

What is interesting is that

What is interesting is that the U.B.L. raid was watched by so many in “real time”; Obama, Gates, Biden, Mullen Clinton and many others.

So why did it take almost 2 full days to clarify that he was not armed, and why did that story gain so much traction? The official blundering that is happening right now is reminiscent of the Bush era.


nice point

nice point.

Long Story...

Bin Laden Is Dead ... But Why Didn't We Kill Him 10 Year Ago?

here photos of 4 ppl dead in the compound and chopper crashed

here, photos of 4 arabs killed in the compound and img of crashed chopper.


link is from an italian newspaper (in an other article they specify that REUTERS has been the first to have these photos, (bought from a soldier).

warning: gory pics!

Another good story on this case...

Why Didn't We Capture the Terrorist Kingpin and Interrogate Him?

Osama bin Laden's Useful Death

Fox News Shep Smith "Let's file a FOIA on the picture"

Those spellings

So for some reason, much of the press is now going back to spelling bin Laden's first name as 'Usama'?

I think that's how it was most often given when he first received a lot of coverage aftter the African embassy bombings in '98.

But by 9/11, the spelling with an 'O ' had somehow come to the fore. (Rumsfeld, apparently, didn't get the memo, as he abbreviated the name 'UBL' in the 'sweep it all up' comments he nade to some of his subordinates on 9/11.)

And now, the 'U' spelling is acceptable or even preferred in some quarters again. What's up with that? The better to avoid confusion with President Obama's name? But Fox News isn't known for currying favor with the Obama administration. And--odder still--this difference also means the name begins with the letters 'USA'.

Of course, these variations are minor compared with the whole litany of spelling variations that western media have used for Khadafy's name over the years.

I love PCR, but..

It's an error, imo, to equate 9/11 truth and government lies with the notion that Bin Laden was already dead and was not there in that compound with a few guards, a courrier or two, and a few family members. Remember also that the ISI is like the dirty left hand of the CIA, and that they supposedly were aware of this compound for YEARS - for all we know they PAID to have it built just for Bin Laden, parked right there under the "nose" of the Pakistani Military, an organization surely in bed with the ISI, and through the ISI, the CIA. Obama and Panetta might simply have broke the old oath regarding Bin Laden, himself a CIA trained operative.

As if the US government, before the whole world, would claim Bin Laden and circle of friends and family were there, and kill them all or most of them, and place their relationship with Pakistan at risk, and risk being proven to have made the whole thing UP...?

Is that what most everyone here believes, that they took these risks in the face of the announcement? C'mon. I too thought that Bin Laden WAS dead, but I can also easily fathom how I could have been wrong in that speculation.

And the twin towers did still explode from top to bottom in about 13 seconds, where free fall in air for any freely dropped object from the same height, is just over 10 seconds (9.2 in a complete vacuum with no air resistence).

Conflating the two together, is either an error, or part of an elaborate ingenius scheme on the part of the Obama Administration and the Panetta run CIA, now to assume Headship of the Pentagon ie: he's no fool and isn't about to be made a fool of on a false kill of Osama Bin Laden - this leaving us all slightly in doubt, you see, it is a play aimed squarely, at US!
At the 9/11 Truth Movement, itself.

And the "op" (2nd bird with same stone) is also working from that perspective as well I can see that with this op ed, and all the "chatter" through the bloggosphere and the "internets".

Alex Jones too - does he really help us, in the final analysis? by becopming the leading "expert" on things which at times reside in an unknown unknown, like this one.

Seems only me and a very few are grasping the simple truth of the matter here, and pointing out the difference between hard physical reality, and mere conjecture, about a man who could not even have orchestrated the 9/11 attack in it's full extent (towers destroyed over living people), to begin with!

Take the Alex Jones conspiracy hats off people, and put your thinking caps back on.

What the hell were we THINKING?!!!

Is that how far things have slid now from real reality?

I feel once again, like Winston Smith in the book 1984. It's like that now, seemingly on all fronts.

Be a light of truth - don'tget pulled into the lunacy and into the "conspiracy culture", like you'll see at places like Above Top Secret, and elswhere, like AJ's Prison Planet and Info Wars (he likes me just MENTIONING those two sites in ANY context! $$$).

That's the "conspiracy culture" as someone pointed out. We as people committed to the truth, have not wrapped ourselves in that madness, surely?

Keep it straight people and keep your stick on the ice. Go Canucks! ; )

Washington Post covers the issue...

Report of bin Laden’s death spurs questions from conspiracy theorists - Washington Post

Also full interview of Dr. Steve Pieczenik can be found here: http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-04/alex-jones-interviews-dr-steve-r-pieczenik

And then they release the photo

to discredit ALL "conspiracy theorists" and kill two birds with one stone.

It's good for Alex Jones' ratings, but not so good for the 9/11 Truth Movement...

And then they release the

And then they release the photo to discredit ALL "conspiracy theorists" and kill two birds with one stone.


This is a point I sympathize witth if you havn't noticed yet.

My problem with you though is you aren't making any posts about it.

Please put some more time into this and create a post.

Too busy and I don't tend to make blog entries.

People are smart enough to figure it out aren't they..?

"Conspiracy theorists" the whole world over are now up in arms over the lack of photo evidence, and I'm pretty sure this was done on purpose, to goad us into all this talk about Osama fakery.

Meanwhile, the crux of the issue is ignored.

What's that?

The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center DID NOT "COLLAPSE" on September 11th, 2001.

Even then, we evade the evidence there by pointing only and exclusively to Building 7, as if the twin towers came down as they did, not by explosives, but as a result of some sort of progressive pancake collapse, which is an UTTER ABSURDITY right on the face of it, since they went from top, to bottom in little more than three seconds over ABSOLUTE FREE FALL from the same height in nothing but air, something any grade ten physics student ought to be able to deduce well beyond ANY reasonable doubt whatsoever, armed with nothing but some videos of the twin towers' destruction, a few basic equations like Gallileo's Law of Free Falling Bodies and Sir Isaac Newton's Three Laws of Motion - and a stopwatch or even the second hand on their wristwatch.

The 9/11 truth movement has become little more than a big fat Alex Jones, imho.

It's absurd. (anger)

There, how's that?

Here's what the "chatter" looks like (from CNN)


Precisely what I thought.

Pretty ingenius I have to say of the Obama administration to refrain from releasing the photo of the dead Bin Laden. Not so genius maybe to be changing the story as to what transpired at that compound, or was some confusion intended to fan the flames of "conspiracy theorists"..?

I don't think it was a hoax, but I do think that dark shadow CIA operators working in cahoots with the Pakistani ISI sheltered Bin Laden there, and that they knew where he was for YEARS, except Obama and Panetta broke the old oath put in place by the Bush Administration, by going in and making the kill, at the most opportune and convenient time, to kick off Obama's re-election campaign.

What I like least about it is the mental chain it yanks on everyone, as if the black-op of 9/11 laid down it's own psychological infrastructure that Obama is now making optimal use of, while at the same time using the facts and/or their witholding, to marginalize, discredit and sideline the " 9/11 truthers".

And even if the whole story was true, including 9/11, which it isn't as we all know - how can the victims of 9/11 be "avenged" by the death of one man, how does that work, except at the most basic and primitive level, what a pathetic display of nationalism and patriotism, the way Obama is playing this up with his visit to NYC. Gag!