Sydney's #1 Talk Station Hosts 9/11 Debate "Arguments Rage over 9/11"

Sydney Live with Ben Fordham hosts 9/11 debate - John Bursill vs. Mike King

9/11 Twin Towers

September 5, 2011 - Source

Nearly 10 years on, many still argue who was really behind the 9/11 attacks....Ben Fordham investigates.

This excellent debate can be heard at 2GB, Sydney's number 1 rated talk station which has been broadcasting for over 80 years, part of Macquarie Radio Network, hosted by 2GB's show, "The Lounge", or via upload to YouTube here (Audio Part 1, Audio Part 2)
Sydney Live 3 till 6 is presented by Walkley award winning reporter Ben Fordham.

Who is host Ben Fordham?

Ben Fordham, Host of 2GB's Sydney Live - 3 till 6, Ben Fordham is a Walkley award winning reporter who still can't believe he gets paid to work in radio and television. Ben has called Channel Nine home for the past decade, reporting from around the world on 60 Minutes, A Current Affair, Nine News and Today Show. His stories have been broadcast internationally on CNN, SKY and ABC AMERICA. ... On radio, Ben has become a popular part-time radio host on AM stations. His most recent stint was filling in for Steve Vizard on the morning shift on Melbournes MTR. He's also the Australian correspondent for some overseas radio stations. Ben's coming-of-age in journalism came before he celebrated his 21st birthday. Then a political correspondent on Sydney radio, Fordham won a Walkley Award -- Australia's top award in journalism - for his coverage of the Thredbo landslide tragedy and a Raward - the top accolade in the Australian radio industry - for excellence in journalism. He became the youngest reporter in history to win a Walkley-Raward double and was honoured on Australia Day with a Young Citizen of the Year award. (continued)

Who is Mike King?

I am trained in science but my day job for the last twenty years is in the visual arts. In the material below I have attempted to check and double check facts and calculations, but like all of us am prone to error. I would be delighted to hear from anyone who would like to point out errors of data or calculation, or errors in the flow of argument, and will be pleased to change the text and give appropriate credit. New evidence will undoubtedly come to light over time, and this may alter the known facts and the course of my arguments here or even reverse them. So much the better: I call that good science.

Mr. King has published a paper, "Good Science and 9-11 Demolition Theories," at

Who is John Bursill? (

John Bursill (Born 1968) is a Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer based in Sydney Australia working on Boeing Aircraft and is qualified in Avionics (Elect/Inst/Radio) on the 767, 747 and 737 series aircraft. He is a family man and involved with numerous community events and organisations. John has served his country as a member of the Australian Army Reserve over many years and finished up as acting Operations/Intelligence Sargent for 4/3 RNSWR. John considers himself a true patriot of his country and a supporter of the US alliance in the sense of us together supporting national security, freedom and justice throughout the world.

His affiliations include:

Delegate: Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association
Member: Returned Serviceman's League or Australia
Member: Amnesty International
Member: Lions International

John has been a serious 9/11 Truth Activist since 2006 when in January he viewed "Loose Change -- 2nd Edition" on the internet after a fellow Aircraft Engineer he worked with expressed a concern that maybe one of those crazy "conspiracy theories" might actually be true and suggested he watch the film. John had a great struggle with the evidence presented in this amateur documentary and was very keen to debunk it. Unfortunately even though the film makers had made a few mistakes and allowed speculation to creep into their production it was obvious that the "Official Conspiracy Theory" was not true. Since then he is doing all that one man can to find the truth and to inform the public of that truth to hopefully create interest in questioning Australian and US foreign policy based on a 9/11 delusion.

John after many years of research is convinced that 9/11 was a psychological operation designed to promote a war agenda spelt out by the Neo-Cons around the Bush/Cheney Administration and specifically the "Project for the New American Century" in their manifesto "Rebuilding America's Defenses". It seems to John based on the evidence that 9/11 was perpetrated and/or covered up by elements within the United States Government, the Military Industrial Security Complex and with the assistance of individuals in the FBI and NIST (National Institute of Science and Technology). It also is blatantly obvious that the "9/11 Commission" was set up to fail as has been said by many of the commissioners and their chairmen Keen and Hamilton; this is completely unacceptable and is a slap in the face for the family members of the victims which include ten Australian's families.

I would suggest ...

...that anybody taking part in a so called debate such as that one, not move on to the next question until the denier has actually addressed the question.

This guy says he is an expert on physics, so he should have been asked questions about the newtons laws of momentum...

His answers like 'how can anybody beleive that any government would kill 3000 of it's own people', have nothing to do with physics, nor are they relevant as they are based on emotion not fact. Ad hominem is all they have now and intelligent people should refuse to take part in such conversations if ad hominem is used...

I am not mocking John, he did extremely well considering the way that presentationm was constructed, I would like to have seen john simply state that the conversation is biased and the physics expert did not explain any physics whatsoever.

John has been dedicated to the truth and has always been open minded from what I have seen.

The questions john should have been asked were directed at the shill...

What a rort!

He won't try to answer them...

'This guy says he is an expert on physics, so he should have been asked questions about the newtons laws of momentum..."

He won't try to answer them just as he didn't try to answer the physics in his so called "good science" paper. Its a four year old paper which hasn't been updated with such important facts like free fall, the red/grey chips, and more.


Thanks for your input...always appreciated!

This was pre-recorded and a edit was done. I was happy with the edit and I won the debate answering "their" questions first without the time or real right of reply. By answering their questions I was able to slip in the pearls, if I had of got into an argument I would ring true as a nut!

When you play by their rules and dominate the debate you are on a winner, which is very obvious to any critical mind.

Regards John

pre recorded and edited...

wow, it came across as a live debate. like many accounts of 9/11, they come across as somethng thay are not.

Good job John, dedication from people like you will make the new investigation come sooner than later.

I am personally mourning Barry Jennings today. I am also mourning the thousands killed in the attacks and the hundreds of thousands killed in the aftermath...

Kia Kaha, Aroha Nui.


You were amazing!! You got so much in, so fast... and you totally screwed up the host's intentions to use you as a poster child for the wackier stuff, constantly repeating certain words and labels to evoke aversion against you ("Conspiracy theory.. conspiracy theories... What's your take on the conspiracy theory John.... We have John here, he's a conspiracy theorist......"), and then always giving the last word to the "debunker" who has little to offer but the argument from personal incredulity fallacy.

You destroyed it... John... fantastic.. you're lightning quick like a boxer. I have only one tiny point of criticism: always use freefall in conjuction with "acceleration", since fall time is irrelevant (and this notion is abused by NIST and "debunkers")

Your opponent...... he lost by a wide margin.

Great job by John Bursill

You did a great job