No Sailor Witnesses to OBL May 1st Burial Says State Department

By Associated Press,  Published: NOVEMBER 21, 5:00 PM ET
WASHINGTON — Internal emails among U.S. military officers indicate that no sailors watched Osama bin Laden’s burial at sea from the USS Carl Vinson and traditional Islamic procedures were followed during the ceremony.

The emails, obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act, are heavily blacked out, but are the first public disclosure of government information about the al-Qaida leader’s death. The emails were released Wednesday by the Defense Department.

Bin Laden was killed on May 1, 2011, by a Navy SEAL team that assaulted his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

One email stamped secret and sent on May 2 by a senior Navy officer briefly describes how bin Laden’s body was washed, wrapped in a white sheet, and then placed in a weighted bag.

According to another message from the Vinson’s public affairs officer, only a small group of the ship’s leadership was informed of the burial.

“Traditional procedures for Islamic burial was followed,” the May 2 email from Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette reads. “The deceased’s body was washed (ablution) then placed in a white sheet. The body was placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker. After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased’s body slid into the sea.”

The email also included a cryptic reference to the intense secrecy surrounding the mission. “The paucity of documentary evidence in our possession is a reflection of the emphasis placed on operational security during the execution of this phase of the operation,” Gaouette’s message reads. Recipients of the email included Adm. Mike Mullen, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. James Mattis, the top officer at U.S. Central Command. Mullen retired from the military in September 2011.

Earlier, Gaouette, then the deputy commander of the Navy’s Fifth Fleet, and another officer used code words to discuss whether the helicopters carrying the SEALs and bin Laden’s body had arrived on the Vinson.

“Any news on the package for us?” he asked Rear Adm. Samuel Perez, commander of the carrier strike group that included the Vinson.

“FEDEX delivered the package,” Perez responded. “Both trucks are safely enroute home base.”

Although the Obama administration has pledged to be the most transparent in American history, it is keeping a tight hold on materials related to the bin Laden raid. In a response to separate requests from the AP for information about the mission, the Defense Department said in March that it could not locate any photographs or video taken during the raid or showing bin Laden’s body. It also said it could not find any images of bin Laden’s body on the Vinson.

The Pentagon also said it could not find any death certificate, autopsy report or results of DNA identification tests for bin Laden, or any pre-raid materials discussing how the government planned to dispose of bin Laden’s body if he were killed.

The Defense Department also refused to confirm or deny the existence of helicopter maintenance logs and reports about the performance of military gear used in the raid. One of the stealth helicopters that carried the SEALs to Abbottabad crashed during the mission and its wreckage was left behind. People who lived near bin Laden’s compound took photos of the disabled chopper.

The AP is appealing the Defense Department’s decision. The CIA, which ran the bin Laden raid and has special legal authority to keep information from ever being made public, has not responded to AP’s request for records about the mission.

Santa Claus

No one in my family ever saw Santa coming down the chimney but the cookies and milk were always eaten and the presents had to come from somewhere! Has anyone noticed that 9/11 per se was brilliant and theatrical and all subsequent "ops" have been of Ovaltine Decoder Ring quality? Or perhaps a sports analogy would better suit: 9/11 was a spectacle of Super Bowl proportions and everything since has been like the Pop Warner league.

SEAL Team 6 Bin Laden Shooter Says Suspect Did Not Look Like Bin

Physical Evidence

To me, absent any real physical evidence, then it's just a story and nothing more. Any 'benefit of the doubt' has to be earned.

Sad part is..

The sad part about all this is most Americans just believe anything they hear from the Gov't or TV. While attending the movies this weekend I saw the trailer for Zero Dark Thirty 3 times. Who knows what BS version of events they'll peddle and that will reinforce the myth. Sad, sad, sad...

Zero Dark Thirty for those interested;

peace all

Zero Dark Thirty

Did I know about Zero Dark Thirty ? I think I did, sorta kinda, or something. Why am I so ambiguous on that? Well it surprises me that I don't have it on a wish list somewhere, so it must have slipped my mind. I have all the other commercially prepared books and videos on the subject enqueued, or in files but never to be watched or read for the same reason that I don't watch thrillers with A-rabs as the villains.

One of the officers quoted

On October 27, Rear Admiral Charles Gaoette was replaced as commander of a carrier fleet in the Middle East pending an investigation into undisclosed allegations of 'inappropriate judgment'--as mentioned near the end (about 5:19) of the first clip at this recent post:

Refridgerator Magnet Quote

"The Pentagon also said it could not find any death certificate, autopsy report or results of DNA identification tests for bin Laden, or any pre-raid materials discussing how the government planned to dispose of bin Laden's body if he were killed".

Oh is that it? Crazy conspiracy theorists and their suppossed primary sources Ha!

Mark Bowden : The Finish : The Killing of OBL

Author of "Black Hawk Down" Mark Bowden issues caveat and edit in future version of his new book documenting OBL killing.

As I look over the book and index at book store out falls a white index card with type with this written on it.

Quote :

"As this book was coming off press, one of the Navy SEALS who was on the raid on the Abbottabad compound published a book in which he gave an account of the shooting of bin Laden that slightly differs from the one that appears on p.229 of this book. He says that as he and two other SEALS were climbing the stairs to the third floor, a man stuck his head out from a doorway. Two shots from a suppressed gun were fired. He then entered the room to see bin Laden "with blood and brains spilling out of the side of his skull". He and another SEAL fired several rounds into his body until he was motionless. I assume this account is accurate through the account here was reviewed at the highest level of Special Forces Command and confirmed as accurate before the book went to press. All subsequent editions of this book will have a slightly expanded version of this addendum worked into the text. ". - Mark Bowden

Q : Why does Bowman not name the book that this descrepancy occurs in?
Its important enough to have to change it for future editions?

That is Just Rich!

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott, Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17.

The only left "identification"

now was by "Osama bin Ladens" family. I heard that this wife told the SEALS it was him. Unfortunately, this is "tale teller"-style, too. As noboby, no one, was able to interview the widows or other members of the family, I guess we will never have any confirmation.

Oh, and the other "argument" of the denialistas may be: Al Quida confirmed his death, sure, but in reality in was via SITE or INTELCENTER or "INSPIRE", we do know nothing of original sources or how to check them for authenticity.

DNA and ID

There were probably children with the so called wives of Bin Ladin in the compound. If we knew where they were we could test them for DNA and match with existing "real" Bin Ladin offspring which are multitudinous.
Also, as I've written before, no one on the mission held up for the press any diabetes medication, syringes or because he was wealthy his own dialysis equipment so there's no way without this proof the mission could prove they nabbed the right suspect.
I also saw the trailer for Bigelow's new propaganda movie. It seems to be pitched to the underprivileged lads who make up the army as a recruitment tool - be a hero and get a big target. The soldiers are led to believe a lady executive talking to them about the mission - they get fired up while displaying their many tattoos (no one ever told them tattoo inks now as opposed to years ago contain mercury and other toxic substances). The rest seems to be all brain-numbing action and violence.

This is a gift of a story for

This is a gift of a story for researchers and activists and 9/11 Truth Patriots.

"Osama's Death and Burial" is contradicted from its May 1 "announcement" in more and more ways everyday. That's only a year and a half ago.

+ The Non Press Conference Obama Announcment
+The Reaction Picture
+SEAL TEAM 6 Helicopter Explosion
+SEALs and Family members "set the record straight" with
+Book and Movie Releases and Huge Conflicting Accounts
+AP told Pentagon has no records, pictures, witnesses or forensics, and FOIA request heavily redacted.

Remember this next year around late August/Sept when that window of opportunity opens. My guess is if you present this sequence of events to a friend who doesn't wanna hear about thermite, its really impossible to defend.

I'm looking forward to who this ripples out.

Where Are The Alleged Bin Laden Brides?

"There were probably children with the so called wives of Bin Ladin in the compound."

One would think that the media would be pursuing these ladies for more information about one of history's most elusive figures, but they are apparently not.

Just another aspect of this matter that doesn't add up.

Paul Craig Roberts

Mr. Roberts takes up the issue of the alleged killing of OBL:

The mainstream/corporate media is owned and will never investigate against the dominant meme. They are complicit.

Good question

I've seen interviews with neighbors who say that it wasn't Bin Laden and that the bearded guy watching TV was someone else -- they even give his name. But I haven't seen a single interview by the press or even a youtube video of any wives or children of "Bin Laden" who were actually there living in the house! Where are these people?

No only have we been denied proof that Bin Laden was killed and buried at sea, but we haven't been given plausible evidence that he was living there.

Strange that no one stepped forward to claim a $20 million bounty and that now, even after the fact, no one speaks of living with or beside Bin Laden.

they dug him up and killed him again!