Terror Attack Kills 3 and Injures Dozens in Boston … Further Losses of Liberty and More War On The Way?

Will Brutal Terror Attack Be Used to Justify Martial Law and More War?

A horrific terror attack in Boston today killed 3 and injured dozens.

5 unexploded bombs have also been found.

As such, it is definitely a terror attack.

Our prayers go out to the families of those hurt, and to the people of Boston.

It is too early to tell if it is false flag terrorism or real terrorism.   Either way, prominent Americans have noted for years that another terrorist attack could usher in martial law (we’re already pretty close) … and more war (we’re in a lot already):

  • Ron Paul stated the government “is determined to have martial law”, and that the government is hoping to get the people “fearful enough that they will accept the man on the white horse”.  Paul said last year (at 28:00):

    What I fear the most is a false flag – something happening where one of our ships goes down, or there’s a plane that goes down, and of course it HAD to be the Iranians, you know, for sure, for certain.

“We have to be careful, if somebody does this kind of provocation, big violent explosions of some kind, we have to not take the word of the masters there in Washington that this was some terrorist event because it could well be a provocation allowing them, or seemingly to allow them to get what they want.”

  • The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which states (pages 84-85):

It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)

  • A number of very high-level former intelligence officers – including several that personally briefed presidents every day on matters of national security – stated that better communications between the U.S. and Iran were needed to “reduce the danger of … covert, false-flag attack”
  • One of America’s top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley – writes:

Many critics have argued that there is a concerted effort to push the United States into a war with Iran by supporters of Israel. Patrick Clawson, director of research for the highly influential pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) think tank, seemed intent to prove those rumors true this week in comments as a luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout.” Clawson casually discusses how to create a false flag operation to push the U.S. into war to overcome any reluctance by the public. We have been discussing how many leaders like Senator Joe Lieberman had begun to use the same rhetoric that led to the last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the suggest timing of an attack has been tied to the presidential election.

In his remarks, Clawson helpfully lists a series of historical events used to push the country into war like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave us the Vietnam War. Clawson expressed his frustration in acknowledging that it is “[v]ery hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran.” However, there is hope. Clawson explains that the “traditional way” to get the country into a war is through false flags or manufactured incidents where Americans are killed. Thus, he observes, “we are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians, we could get nastier about it. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.”

The fact that one of the leading analysis for the WINEP would feel comfortable in making such comments is itself quite chilling. It indicates that such discussions have become sufficiently regular that it has creeped into public discussion. It is a measure of the secret pressure building to push this country into a third major war despite our crippling economic conditions and losses in military personnel. The assumption in Washington is that neither Romney nor Obama could oppose such a war. Even if Obama does not publicly support Israel, the assumption is that political allies of Israel in Washington can guarantee that we would offer extensive military loans and intelligence. Even if there is a delay in such military loans and support, the assumption is that Israel can go to war with the understanding that the United States will cover a significant portion of the costs. Moreover, in his remarkably candid remarks, Clawson shows how the U.S. can easily be forced into direct combat by pushing Iran to simply kill some Americans or sink a few of our ships. Then members would be clamoring for revenge. Notably, the Israelis have been ratcheting up the war rhetoric in pushing Iran, which predictably has now reserved the right to engage in a preemptive strike not just against Israeli but U.S. interests. We would then, again, find ourselves in a war without any public debate or collective decision.

While Clawson adds a passing caveat that he is not advocating such an approach, his remarks are clearly designed to show how the group can get the United States into a war for Israel if only we can get Iran to kill some of our citizens or soldiers. Those people are of course expendable props in Clawson’s realpolitik.

By the way, Clawson has been enlisted to give his insightful analysis at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. He is also a member of the National Defense University’s Institute for National Strategic Studies. The World Bank connection is particularly interesting given the history with Paul Wolfowitz who pushed the U.S. into two disastrous wars in the Bush Administration and was rewarded with being made the head of the World Bank.

It is the callous disconnect that is most chilling in these remarks. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have died or have been crippled for life in these wars that have left the country near bankruptcy (and increasingly hostile “allies” in Afghanistan and Iraq). Those casualties and costs, however, appear immaterial in the discussion of supporting Israel in a war against Iran.

And false flags have long been planned against Syria.

Man Questioning Boston Bomb as False Flag Shrugged off...

Man Questioning Boston Bomb as False Flag Shrugged off and Ignored

The Strategy Of Tension is a tactic that aims to divide, manipulate, and control public opinion using fear, propaganda, disinformation, psychological warfare, agents provocateurs, and false flag terrorist actions.

History of terrorized societies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Not so easy

Not so easy to make out exactly what the questioner is saying, for me anyway. Is anyone able to parse it, or might there be a transcript somewhere?

Here it is from Mox News and CNN... [Full Press Conference]

Sounds like the man who asked this question is Dan Bidondi of Infowars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVpwzoWMcQM

AJ's baffoon

Dan Bidondi is a baffoon. Why AJ sent him to the press conference is as suspicious as everything else that is suspicious about this event. His question was ridiculous, insensitive and poorly timed, given that people were bleeding to death in nearby hospitals and there were unknown suspects at large at the time of the press conference. For the record, I live in downtown Boston and my house is a 10 min walk from the bombing site. I also work in East Watertown and a 5 min walk to the site of the shoot out. I was born in East Watertown, and lived there for the first 4 years of my life and again for 13 years in the 1980s and 1990s in a house that's a 1 min walk from the shootout site. My father was born on the street where the shootout happened. Needless to say I have a lot of opinions about what happened -- too much to try to articulate here. One thing is worth noting. What happened in Watertown is very different than what happened in Boston. Boston police worked beyond the call of duty. After three days they were fucking exhausted. Yes, there were cops everywhere. But in Boston all of the Swat teams, state cops, FBI, armored vehicles, etc were confined to the bombing site. Cops from all of the surrounding towns rushed to Boston to lend a hand. They were courteous and respectful that they were in someone else's town. Someone asked me what the "lockdown" was like. Well, I took a break from watching the news and walked to the pizza joint on the corner that was open. I ordered my sub sandwich. Behind me was a woman Boston Cop. She was completely exhausted. She tried to order some food but she had diet restrictions and was having a hard time finding something she could eat. After she ordered, she stood there with the rest of us and patiently waited for her food.

What happened in Watertown is a different story. Anyone who has real questions and real concerns can contact me thru this site.

Good to hear from you

Good to hear from you on this, 911Peacenik.


Hey 911Peacenick, thanks for the overview.

I disagree about Bidondi's question. He asked if this was a false flag to take away our civil liberties. Soon after, we saw an 1M people go on "lockdown" and in a portion of the city "voluntary" house to house searches. The timing was perfect, and the question was the most important one asked. I don't see how it's insensitive. Millions of people googled "false flag".

Rhetorical questions for anyone:
Is this the "new normal"? What happens next time a murder suspect is on the loose? Does the cradle of Liberty have a 4th Amendment? Is having a murder suspect on the loose a good reason to tell a million people to "shelter in place"? First it's the plan for a bio attack, then it's ok to use for a snow storm, then it's ok to use when a murder suspect is on the loose. What comes next? When is it not "optional"? Is Boston going to "lock down" when there is a financial disaster? Why are secret service agents at press conferences? Why are they intimidating reporters? Why is a Saudi national who was at the crime scene, living in Boston, on a watchlist and supposed to be living in Ohio visiting the White House? Which agency's knew about the plan ahead of time?



"He asked if this was a false flag to take away our civil liberties."

How the fuck would Deval Patrick know whether it was false flag 2 hours after the event, even if it was?

The perps were terrorists -- Muslim terrorists, CIA terrorists, Russian Terrorists, whatever. And they were on the loose, meaning they could still inflict more damage. This wasn't a drug deal gone bad. It was people with bombs setting them off in crowds. The small city of Boston was packed that day -- Marathon, Red Sox/Yankees game, tax day demonstrations on the Common -- all in a one mile radius. What would be the first thing YOU would do as Governor the moment you found out two bombs went off in the capital at the Marathon, post a blog, arrest all FBI employees?

Google hits? are you fucking kidding? I'll get back to you after I find out how many people have googled "directed energy weapons" and we can talk 9/11.

I'm starting to feel like Jon Gold here. OMG!

Jon Gold rocks.


He should have answered honestly "I don't know" and then pointed out that the actions of criminals can never be a reason to give up any of our liberties, even for a second.


Except for the civil liberties part, that's pretty much what Deval said. He left the civil liberties part to Boston Police Commissioner Davis who said on local TV that he didn't want to turn Boston into a "police state." Yes, he used those exact words.

Video note: at the 30 sec mark Bill Mahr quotes Boston Police Commissioner Davis. I'd suggest liberty minded people should stifle their criticism a bit and instead go out of their way to praise Davis for the courage to make that remark. Praising those in power who do and say the right thing goes a lot further than criticizing. Typically people are open to praise and dismiss criticism. I live in walking distance of BPD headquarters. Once everything settles down I plan to stroll over just to shake his hand and say "thank you." If anyone wants to do something productive, send BPD an email thanking them and Commissioner Ed Davis in particular for standing up for the people, our Constitution and our liberties Mediarelations.bpd@cityofboston.gov That's how we win.


There were no house to house searches in Boston after the bombing that I'm aware of. The house to house searches began two days later in Watertown on the night the MIT cop was murdered, a car chase and gun battle with bombs happened in Watertown and Dzhokhar escaped.

don't get me wrong, I don't approve of the police state tactics in Watertown, but I don't yet know what a better way to handle a situation like that would be. And a lot of us here will be challenging law enforcement about whether it could have been handled differently in the weeks and months to come. If you want to change things, y'all should probably start talking to your local police and ask them what's gonna happen when terrorism visits your town, if you've got the nerve.

Video note: the gray house in the upper left corner is where I was born and spent 17 years of my life. If these scenes bother you, think about how they bother me.

Forgive me if this is inaccurate......

I don't yet know what a better way to handle a situation like that would be.

I don't think we even had house to house searches for Al Qaeda "sleeper cells" after 9/11. And you have to know that this is not done for security. I mean, just look at the picture you posted. Where did that vehicle come from? Did they put in a special rush order from Detroit and have that vehicle made overnight just for the Tsarnaev brothers? No, they have been around for a while. If you want to see what purpose they were built for all you have to do is Google Indonesia, or Korea or anywhere else that freedom loving people lose it and you will see the same sorts of lash ups only they had them first.

emerging police state

In Mass we have several "law enforcement councils" (NEMLEC, CEMLEC, MetroLEC). These are consortiums of police departments set up to handle "disaster response." Some have been around for a while and some are fairly recent. It seems that since 9/11 they have been beefed up with paramilitary SWAT teams with armored vehicles. I just found out about them a couple of months ago. They have been doing training all around the state, town to town. It was getting noticed and questions and opposition were slowly starting to emerge, especially on Facebook, but also in local newspapers. Needless to say, these SWAT teams are hanging around, chomping at the bit to spring into action. The bad news for Mass is that they are probably here to stay. The good news is that I found out recently that a coalition in the San Francisco Bay area stood up to their local government and prevented the establishment of similar units there. Don't know much more -- still researching it. So the time is NOW, folks, if your area doesn't have them, get out there and tell your local pols you don't want or need them. Remind them that it was a private citizen taking his dog out for a dump who discovered the Boston bombing suspect in his boat after the lockdown was lifted and the massive police manhunt had finished their search within the perimeter they set up. (I have a photo of a MetroLEC vehicle but don't know how to embed it here, sorry)

A Look at Bidondi From the Other Side

This video shows keen interest in what Bidondi is saying from what I take to be the foreign press. Also of note is that someone in the government is taping Bidondi:


foolish from either angle

I'll repeat, Bidondi's "question" (commentary) was completely inappropriate. An investigation into the culprits hadn't even begun and Bidondi seems to be challenging some imaginary conclusion by the authorities. That type of question only makes sense in the context of some other conclusion that's being put forth. At the time, there was no public announcement about who authorities thought was behind the bombings, no hypothesis about why, or any other type of speculation. So what was it Bidondi was challenging? An "official story" hadn't yet emerged. That type of question should be saved for after officials start making claims, and only with solid, bullet proof evidence and/or testemony. The pictures he was waving around have been explained, and though the explanation still warrants further explanation, the official explanation is certainly not beyond the pale. The fact that AJ isn't hyping the pics anymore speaks for itself.

Add to that Bidondi acted like an out of control jerk, insensitive to the people who at the time were struggling for their lives, and ranting about his version of what happened. And he doesn't even have a command of the English language, let alone deep state politics.

AJ and Infowars are taking a huge hit, and not just from me. If you notice, Sibel Edmonds, who has inside info and sound analysis from her stint with the FBI, is not being raked over the coals in the same way. Instead, her version (which is far more potent) is gaining traction. http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2013/04/30/365-the-boston-bombing-the-cia-and-the-us-empire/

In the final analysis, the one who has suffered the most from AJ sending an undisciplined, amateur, hyped-out representative to a high profile press conference is AJ himself............ deservedly.

p.s. I still go to Infowars, but as always, if I can't substantiate and source his claims, I conclude it's just AJ ranting again. Too bad for AJ, cuz his best attribute is that he often has great guests on his shows.


what and where is the official explanation you're talking about?

911Peacenik - "The pictures he was waving around have been explained, and though the explanation still warrants further explanation, the official explanation is certainly not beyond the pale. The fact that AJ isn't hyping the pics anymore speaks for itself."

the Craft

the pictures that "proved" The Craft was operational in the bombings. The people in those pictures have been identified as being part of National Guard special operations, if I'm not mistaken.


made a very clear statement and now you don't back it up and you say it's possible that you're mistaken about it.

Stop wasting people's time here.

Accusations unwelcome.

Use your time for something positive.

Here, I'll do it for you:

"As far as I know, no official explination has been provided, but there are a number of pictures with CST in big bold letters on the jackets of people dressed the same. We also have pics of the 3 guys getting in and out of CST trucks. I'll keep looking for more info. Thanks."

Oh I see.

no worries

we're all wound up over this. take comfort that everyone here wants to get at that truth. recognizing our mistakes is essential to weeding out the distractions to focus on the real problems with the official story.... and there are plenty.

Never on Sunday!

I once posted on a board somewhere that I thought that Bidondi was oafish. I regret that now. Not because he has risen in my estimate of his intellectual stature but because of the way that he stood up to those thugs who tried to intimidate him, that takes a lot of courage because he wasn't just standing up to strength but power.

So when do you decide when the media is telling the truth? You stated that Bidondi was : an out of control jerk,insensitive to the people who at the time were struggling for their lives, and ranting about his version of what happened. Where else did you get this information, about people in a life and death struggle, from but the media. How then, do you determine when they are telling the truth? We are talking about an institution that employs Rachel Maddow who, in contravention of journalistic standards that requires two sources with three being even better uses three sources but two of them are the same: I am talking about her defense of the official story of 9/11 on her recent rant against Alex Jones. One of the sources is a graphic novel. Imagine, a Rhodes scholar using a graphic novel as a reference. This just isn't done. Do you know what my dream job would be? I would like to be a towel boy at the YWCA,yes I said YWCA, but that job doesn't exist. Maddow postulates that conspiracy theorists are couched on the extreme right wing. Do you know what my political position is? Ideally, it would be what Maddow pretends to be, a progressive liberal. And by liberal I mean one that espouses the ideas that came into efflorescence in the Enlightenment that inspired Jefferson. Well, in America, that position doesn't even exist. It is as chimerical as my towel boy job and Maddow is lying by posturing as such. Then we have Anderson Cooper who attacked James Tracy. In response to Tracy's statement, "perhaps we as a society have been conditioned to be duped." Cooper responded, "now, I really don't even know what that means, what he is saying, what the words coming out of his mouth mean." Here Cooper plays Pollyanna, a babe in the woods. Cooper is ensconced in the media that gave us WMDs, Yellow Cake, Jayson Blair, Janet Leslie Cooke,Judith Miller and Tawana Brawley. Duped: why whatever do you mean? Cooper is a Yale grad. He didn't get gentleman's C's, like Bush, but was a member of The Manuscript Society which taps only 16 students per year based on accademic excellence and yet his due diligence was to attack the person of Tracy and not investigate his ideas or statements. As far as I know, there was no real follow up by Cooper on this story. So, is this the media that you are getting your information from? I don't know what happened, yet somehow you claim with some kind of surety that you do?

I'll tell you where?

"Where else did you get this information, about people in a life and death struggle, from but the media...... So, is this the media that you are getting your information from? I don't know what happened, yet somehow you claim with some kind of surety that you do?"

1) I live on the edge of Copley Sq. and I work in East Watertown.

2) I've talked to a lot of witnesses personally and many of them have problems with the MSM story, too.

3) My neighbor across the street gave the FBI his cell phone video.

4) Ruslan Tsarni, the uncle, called my office Tuesday to apologize to the Armenian community.

5) I know Middlesex County sheriff Peter Koutoujian.

6) I'm Armenian and my grandparents were Armenian Genocide survivors. I've spent most of my life dealing with how MSM and the US govt. have obfuscated the truth about what happened in Anatolia from 1915-1921 and was once called to the Boston Globe about a TV segment I produced calling them out on their stance on the Genocide.

7) One of my tenants, who is Persian-American, is a physician at a Boston hospital and gave me first-hand accounts of what happened at his hospital.

8) I've been known to sit on my front stoop and drink beer with Boston firefighters

Is that enough? I was there, dude.


Be more specific.

#2-- What exactly do they have trouble with?

#3-- Did he not make a copy for us the review?

#7-- Can he please clear up the issue of the first one being run over? The photo of the body does not show injuries consistent with being hit or dragged.

Can he please clear up the issue of the younger brother's mouth and neck wounds?

Can he clear up the issue of the younger brother apparently not being wounded when he climbed out of the boat?

Beyond your list-- Is there any truth to the story that they were yelling, "Chill Out! We didn't do it?"

Look, it is a fact they lied about the drill that the U Mobile Coach spoke about.

It is a fact that they lied about the kid having a gun in the boat.

There is a witness that says the cops ran the older brother over and then shot him.

Do we live in a police state where they can get away with lying to the American public?


UR raising some of the more serious questions. I can't answer most of them. I talked to a guy in a coffee shop who only heard the shootout, but did catch a glimpse of the black SUV racing from the scene. When I told him about how the police might have actually been the ones who ran over him, he didn't flinch and said he thought it could easily be possible.

The unarmed kid seems to be true, which IMO raises a serious concern that can be dealt with by locals. I was at an event that Koutoujian was supposed to attend and I was gonna ask him that question, but he never showed up. I'm working on ways to get Davis or Watertown PD to explain how and why they were grossly misinformed about "an exchange" of gunfire at the boat, which they announced on national TV. What triggered 200 rounds being pumped into the boat has yet to be explained. That one is at the top of my list which I'm pushing with everyone.

I just found out about the "chill out" audio yesterday and haven't had time to ask around. I'm going to an event in that area tonight and will be asking lots of questions.

The younger people I talk to are having a serious problem with the characterization of the brothers being radicalized Muslims. There are lots of international students here and they just aren't buying it. These kids live, sleep, eat and party with each other. They have a stake in this too.

I think the "drill" thing is a bit overblown, even though officials avoided answering the drill question honestly. IMO, in and of itself it really doesn't prove anything. We, here at 911blogger, are awake to it cuz of the similarities of the 9/11 drills to the 9/11 events, all of which were extra-ordinary. But in this case, IMO it's kinda like saying, "We had a fire drill in school today and then there was a fire, so the people doing the drill must have set the fire." My speculation is that the perps knew there would be drills and were watching carefully to see if their plot would get foiled, and probably had a plan "B" to cover themselves if it happened. Just speculation, though.

"Do we live in a police state where they can get away with lying to the American public?" Right now I think the answer is yes.

no copy

no, he didn't make a copy of his video. When I asked why he said because he was right there he just wanted to help in any way he could to catch them. Not everyone on my block "gets it" as far as keeping a copy for verification. what can I say? I did give him a brief explanation why it's important but he was a bit shaken since he had gotten special tickets to sit in the bandstand with his family.

'We are in the game

of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.'

Those sure were candid comments from the lobbyist, which gives you an idea of how unguarded he feels he can speak to the Washington Institute audience.

'I'm not advocating that....' Uh-huh. Not so candid there.

Spot the Fallacy : Appeal to

Spot the Fallacy : Appeal to belief

Stevenson" Evidently, I don't believe they were just having a training exercise," Stevenson said. "I think they must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in."

On what basis does Stevenson lays his claim that it was something else? He has no special authority to validate or invalidate claims. Being at the race and at the bombing in no way supports his statement that he "believes they were more then training exercises"

And I can believe that the sky is green without offering proof and you'd be a fool to believe that too.

Communications Possibly Blocked Around Time of Explosions

That is really important to know, if there was a training exercise taking place around the same time as the explosions in Boston. Another indication that the explosions were the result of a black operation is the evidence that phones in the area may have been deliberately jammed:

One newspaper reported that, following the blasts, "cell phone service was out." (http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/It-was-like-the-end-of-the-world-4436450.php)

The Boston Globe reported, "The heavy volume of mobile phone calls around downtown Boston following explosions at the Boston Marathon has clogged cell service, blocking many from getting through to people at the scene." (http://bostonglobe.com/business/2013/04/15/cellphone-service-disrupted-following-explosions-marathon-course/UiCYiMp1IEtXRm...)

One man, who tried reaching his wife who had run in the Marathon, but without success, said, "It was like every cell phone in the city was going off at the same time." (http://www.dariennewsonline.com/news/article/It-was-like-the-end-of-the-world-4436009.php)

A law enforcement official, citing an intelligence briefing, claimed that cell phone service "had been shut down Monday in the Boston area to prevent any potential remote detonations of explosives," according to the Associated Press. However, "officials with Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel said there had been no such requests." Sprint spokeswoman Crystal Davis said: "Minus some mild call blocking on our Boston network due to increased traffic, our service is operating normally." (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/official-cellphone-service-shut-down-boston)

From what I have read, jamming communications seems to be a common tactic in black operations, such as false flag terrorist attacks and assassinations. For details of the communications blackout that occurred on September 11, 2001, see my blog entry, "'Deaf, Dumb, and Blind': Were Communications Sabotaged on 9/11?" (http://shoestring911.blogspot.co.uk/2007/10/deaf-dumb-and-blind-were-communications.html) and my blog entry, "'Ringing Like Crazy': Were U.S. Military Phones 'War-Dialed' on 9/11?" (http://shoestring911.blogspot.co.uk/2007/10/ringing-like-crazy-were-us-military.html)

FBI's History of Handing "Terror Suspects" Live Explosives By T

Familiar pattern

As in 2001--first, terror bombings, then some bioterror: Now we're hearing of a US Senator being sent mail with ricin in it:


Not exactly lab-grade anthrax, therefore less difficult to explain in terms of who could have had access to it.

Don't forget drill, as well.

Forgive me for being behind on the details, but is this correct? They were reportedly having a bomb drill at the same time?

Just like 9/11? Just like the Newtown Shootings?

How stupid do they take people to be?

Marathon Terror: Homegrown or State-Sponsored? April 17th, 2013

Marathon Terror: Homegrown or State-Sponsored?
April 17th, 2013

by Stephen Lendman

Boston's marathon is the modern world's oldest. It's the best known. It's an annual tradition. It's been held since 1897. It's one of six World Marathon Majors.

Thousands of runners participate. Professionals and amateurs compete. Hundreds of thousands of spectators watch it. They do so throughout its 26.2 mile route.

In 1996, a 62-year old Swedish participant died of a heart attack. In 2002, a young woman runner succumbed to hyponatremia.

On Monday, April 15, two explosions killed three. Over 100 others were injured. Some lost limbs. The incident occurred near the event's finish line. It's in the heart of downtown Boston's Copley Square.


“There’s devices… definitely devices here,”

Boston Police Radio: Additional Explosive Devices Found

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April 17, 2013

A caller to the Alex Jones Show pointed us to an audio of police responding to the additional devices discovered in Boston during the bombing on April 15.

“There’s devices… definitely devices here,” a voice in the background of the audio says between 17 and 25 seconds into the video below.

“Get off the radio, I want the channel clear,” another voice says at 30 seconds.

On April 16, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick and officialdom stated no additional explosive devices were found on the scene of the Boston Marathon.

The official story is now in chaos.

Total media blackout now under way on most likely suspects in B

Total media blackout now under way on most likely suspects in Boston marathon bombing

Friday, April 19, 2013
by Mike Adams,


Mother Of Boston Bomb Suspects Believed 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

DIdn't you know this kind of sh-t would be brought into the picture....

"The mother of the brothers who have been named as the Boston Marathon bomb suspects told a longtime spa customer the Sept. 11 terror attacks were a U.S. government conspiracy to make Americans hate Muslims, said the customer, Alyssa Kilzner.

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, mother of the brothers, told Kilzner she believed the conspiracy theory. "It’s real," Kilzner said Tsarnaeva told her during the facial session. "She said, 'My son knows all about it. You can read on the Internet.'

"I have to say I felt kind of scared and vulnerable when she said this, as I am distinctly American, and was lying practically naked in her living room," Kilzner said.

Tsarnaeva's younger son, Dhzokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, also endorsed a 9/11 conspiracy theory, tweeting last year that it was an "inside job."


My sons are innocent -- this is a set-up


(edit: sorry, this repeats Wisdom's link from 10:40 AM)

Maryland uncle

and the boys' uncle was once married to CIA official Graham Fuller, who was on Sibel Edmonds original State Secrets Gallery after 9/11


Good AJ interview with her here

The daughter of Fuller

'the boys' uncle was once married to CIA official Graham Fuller'

Make that: 'married to the daughter of....'



okay, so I need a proof reader. I emailed the story to 75 writers and editors at the Boston Globe. Hope I didn't slip up with them, too. Can you call them to check?


Anyone carrying a black backpack that's a match for the one used in the bombing should be a suspect.

Unexploded Devices

News articles are being corrected about the other devices found.

For example: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323346304578424950102614148.html

Now reads:
Corrections & Amplifications
Counterterrorism officials found five additional suspect devices around the Boston area on Monday, but a law-enforcement official later said closer examinations led them to doubt that they were bombs. An earlier version of this article cited people briefed on the investigation saying officials believed they were undetonated explosive devices.

Right. Closer examination led them to doubt they were bombs. Because it's so hard to tell.

Someone please post the police scanner audio.

as is this

The guys in boots with black backpacks

Are CST:
http://s13.postimg.org/qrvmbsr7b/sec.jpg (the guy in the middle is holding a geriger counter)

They would not dress up like that to plant a bomb. They are carying chem/bio/radiological detection gear. I think they were taking part in the drill.

The tall guy in blue, he apears to be holding a bag (low) that matches the fbi image of the backpack which exploded.



Controlled explosion (for an unexploded device I assume, right nytimes?):

NOTE: There are the usual BS artists out claiming tha tthe FBI released video is fake. It's not fake, no evidence is presented that it is fake, they say things that only "make sense" to people who dont understand how video and interlacing work. I wont link to them here, but it's the standard sites that revolve around other "fake this" "fake that" obvious disinfo. I see one of the domains linked to in this thread.


Thanks for shedding light on some of the details. The early days of this type of event are often a good opportunity to find the info.

Replying to myself...

I said "they would not dress up like that to plant a bomb" but obviously I am speculating.

Looks like one of them is missing a backpack... and they could be Craft International contractors. They look familiar...


Can anyone source that image?


Things I have not seen yet:

Tall guy in blue cardigan without his backpack, or any pics of him after the blasts.
CST guy (missing backpack in above link) setting it down.
Any of the official perps (so far) doing anything but walking by.

While I am wishing I would take my own advice and stick to what can be proven... the FBI video shows the brothers walking alone. Their mother asked why they would not be walking together.

Also, Craft International was founded by Chris Kyle, killed under suspicious circumstances (https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/298477312876355585) a few months ago.


Thanks for this precise information. What's missing from the non-mainstream press is the conspicuous nature of these mercenaries - in matching uniforms - possibly to differentiate them from the plainclothes brothers. If they're in uniform then they're perceived that they couldn't be part of the team, so it's a deflection. The mercenaries also had conspicuous back packs which could have had live bombs. It's not even clear the brothers knew they had live bombs. It could have been not just a simple FBI wind-up of the brothers but a complex orchestrated operation with the mercenaries and others on the scene. There isn't any witness who has come forward who definitely says the policeman was killed by the brothers. The information for this event is scued.


An important comment just arrived on this video on You Tube about the detonator -
click to leave a comment.

Kevin Kirk 23 minutes ago

No you are wrong a S.E. International radiation detector has blue on the top screen, i know because i use them almost on a daily basis, that thing the guy has in his hand was some sort of Remote detonator.

Remote Detonator

Why carry it around in hand after the bomb went off? Looks like a geiger counter to me.

Kahki pants and skull logos

I have not been able source any photos of the contractors. I have not found one video with them on it. It seems to me like this content is coming from the Infowars people.

There are thousands of pics available

Many with the CST guys. I dont have the exact source for the pic from above with the skull caps, but it's out there if you spend the time to find it. Would be nice if people would put sources on their articles. It's not coming from the infowars people, most of the research was crowdsourced via reddit and 4chan. Unfortunatly reddit removed /r/findbostonbombers/

small sample, I havent had time to organize my link's yet.
(151 in set) 2013.4_boston.marathon.bombing http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatango/sets/72157633252445135/
(71 in set) Boston Marathon Weekend 2013 https://picasaweb.google.com/114123877172236470973/BostonMarathonWeekend2013

good starting spot:
links to the 20+ threads after that one.


Thank you, jkeogh. I'm looking at the locations you show above. I look forward to anyone finding a source on a photo of the military contractors at the Boston Marathon bombings. I look forward to seeing these guys on a video as well as on photos.

I disagree with and question the volume of articles I see coming from Alex Jones' group based on these apparently unsourced photos.

News Video source


@ mark 2:14 Far left, khaki pants, backpack.


@ mark 0:10

Credible network news sources.

Overhead shots of the guys near the #1 Blast were taken by a private citizen from their apartment.


Thank you, kawika. How important is this then?


I'm looking for more photos like this one http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-marathon-explosions-pictures#/?picture=407248955&index=16 with National Guard Civil Support Teams (CSTs) marked as such. Any help would be appreciated.


(REUTERS/Jessica Rinaldi)

also useful is http://images.google.com (if you paste in a direct image url, a link appears to search for similar images)
and http://www.tineye.com/ but it's slower to update

Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveaux...

Watertown's police chief Edward Deveaux gives his version of events, talks to CNN's Wolf Blitzer about the series of events surrounding the Boston bombing suspects.


This interview is pretty shaky in my opinion. His version of events isn't too solid from what I can tell.

It's completely unbelievable.

In a fierce gun battle with 6 officers Tamerlan Tsarnaev comes out from behind cover and starts walking down the middle of the street to get closer to the police? As shots continue back and fourth he gets 5 to 10 feet away from the police, runs out of ammo, and then is tackled?

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev drives away after a five to to ten minute gun battle followed by multiple officers, drives a few blocks, gets out out the car, and then disappears into the darkness?

It's completely unbelievable.

Also there is this conflicting statement:

How convenient

Absurd Media Distraction

Is he blind, deaf, & handless? Clearly this is an absurd distraction from the media. One can write with complete clarity if need be. He'll probably just be thrown into a psych ward or Gitmo-like hell where no one can reach him...just ask Sirhan Sirhan.

From Iraq and Afghanistan to the U.S.A.

Is this what the future is going to look like...
Police Teams perform house-to-house raids in Watertown, MA clearing innocent families from their homes


WATERTOWN, MA -- On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

This was part of a larger operation that involved total lockdown of the suburban neighbor to Boston. Roads were barricaded and vehicle traffic was prohibited. A No-Fly Zone was declared over the town. People were "ordered" to stay indoors. Businesses were told not to open. National Guard soldiers helped with the lockdown, and were photographed checking IDs of pedestrians on the streets. All the while, police were performing these disgusting house-to-house searches.

Weapons of War

Rep. Peter King: Treat bomber as enemy combatant because ‘battlefield now in the U.S.’

Brain Drain?

....it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

Boston is home of both Harvard and MIT. It is also the home of Faneuil Hall, which hosted great orators like Samuel Adams and is often refereed to as "the cradle of liberty;" it comprises part of "The Freedom Trail" a walking tour of historic sights and sites relating to the struggle for our cherished liberties. Massachusetts is a veritable museum of liberty and education: there are over 40 colleges and Universities in Boston alone and Worcester, Massachusetts, a city of only 181,045 boasts over 12 colleges and universities. And yet, despite all this, we see mawkish crowds cheering the police like a sick bunch of peasants storming the castle in a Frankenstein movie or brutish thugs in a brown shirt torch light parade. With all these prompts relating to history and education in that city and that state it seems that many can't parse a thought or hold a memory of freedom.

I don't see police.

NAZI teams perform house-to-house raids in Watertown, MA clearing innocent families from their homes.

I see terrorists terrorizing the innocent populace .
I see illegal searches after they are forced from their homes.
I see NAZIs conditioning the public to march when they are told to.
I see the suspension of constitutional protections.
I see a mob of jack-booted thugs in a power frenzy.

Police are hired to protect and serve.

Amids the Noise


Can anyone speak to the credibility of this PressForTruth.ca reporter Dan Dicks?


Rather stunning IF true. Due diligence.

Questions: Does this Aunt exist? Does mother/father confirm?



Need the original CNN HD Video and timestamps. The naked guy appears to be missing chest hair, and I dont think the timeline matches up.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev

David Lory VanDerBeek· Nevada Governor 2014

CSPAN Washington Journal April 21 2013

C-SPAN Callers Respond To Capture Of Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect:


Boston Globe Tweet

Has anyone verified this tweet? A Facebook friend posted this -- Boston Globe: "There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

I Don't Get It

Was anyone hurt by this 3rd controlled explosion? Was this unexploded device also found inside a black backpack? Why would they detonate it instead of dismantling it? Why would they detonate in this crowded area instead of taking it somewhere else? Did police clear everyone away before the 3rd device was detonated? Were other bombs found in addition to the 3rd one? Were they also in black backpacks?
What was in the backpacks of the contractors (The Craft) or other private security people? Who hired them?

no undetonated explosive

your confusion is understandable. shortly after the second explosion, there was, indeed, an announcement that they had found undetonated explosives and that they would be detonated. the story was repeated by local media all afternoon. In fact, if I remember correctly, it went from one, to two, to maybe even three undetonated bombs found. Then the story just vanished in the chaos of the reporting. I was watching local news waiting for the detonation to happen. It wasn't until either late that night or the next day that the Governor announced there were no undetonated bombs found.

There are a lot of weird stories that haven't even made it to mainstream or youtube. One that bothers me is a live report i was watching on the day of the bombing (local TV) of state police stopping and questioning a "suspect" on a major road leading out of the city (Storrow Drive). He was questioned, and though I didn't actually see it, the reporter said that they put him into a paddy wagon and hauled him away. The camera wasn't capturing the arrest, but behind the reporter who was reporting the incident you could see three black (FBI-looking) paddy wagons race from the scene. A friend of mine saw the same report and is equally confused

lotta weird stuff......

Official Narrative...

Boston Terror Narrative Starts Falling Apart: Chechen Brothers Did NOT Rob 7-11

We have no idea whether or not the Chechen brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were the Boston terrorists. But several parts of the official narrative are already falling apart.


U.S. drops charges against Mississippi man in ricin letters case

TUPELO, Mississippi (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors dropped charges against a Mississippi man accused of sending ricin-laced letters to President Barack Obama and a U.S. senator, according to a court order signed by a judge on Tuesday.


Chambliss: Law enforcement agency may have known about Boston bo

New Hampshire state Rep.

New Hampshire state Rep. Stella Tremblay (R-Auburn) believes that Alex Jones’ website Infowars has revealed the truth behind the Boston Marathon bombings.


"He Was A Devotee Of Alex Jones! Buying Into Conspiracies! 9/11

"He Was A Devotee Of Alex Jones! Buying Into Conspiracies! 9/11 Trutherism Being P

Project Censored Mickey Huff on Breaking the Set with Abby Marti

Project Censored Mickey Huff on Breaking the Set with Abby Martin

[150] Boston: More Questions than Answers, Immigration Reform, CISPA: Activists & O


Thanks Abby. One comment on the off topic portion of that segment.... Reform is a loaded term. It's a very old rhetorical tool, we are constantly bombarded with it.

"Reform means the improvement or amendment of what is wrong, corrupt, unsatisfactory, etc."

I wish reporters would use less loaded terms or better just skip the terms all together and speak in specifics. If you want open borders just say it. I might be for that if it wasn't automatically attached to the ability to vote.

Personal rant: Immigration is complex, I have close friends in the immigration system. I have sat through INS proceedings. I also live <100 miles from the Mexican border where criminals are extremely powerful because they have a monopoly on weapons. Mexico has two big problems, the people are not allowed to defend themselves and the US drug war causes organized crime. In both cases removing laws (increasing freedom) is the solution, and would at the same time help reduce the pressure for people to flee. Really sad, it's a beautiful country with great people.


How quickly he was demonized.


FBI's involvement with past patsies...

In 2006, The FBI planted an informant in a Southern California mosque who pretended to be a radical Muslim and the Muslims at the mosque reported him to the FBI.

Next we are going to hear it was a "Failure Of Imagination"

"Tamerlane Tsarnaeva recruited via the Georgian Foundation"
Translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fizvestia.ru%2Fnews%2F5...
Tamerlan Tsarnaev Attended CIA-sponsored Workshop: http://www.infowars.com/tamerlan-tsarnaev-attended-cia-sponsored-workshop/

Was Boston Bombers ‘Uncle Ruslan’ with the CIA?: http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/22/was-boston-bombers-uncle-ruslan-with-the-cia/

The Boston Inquisition: http://lewrockwell.com/douglas/douglas75.1.html

Who is going to chair the "4/15 Commission"? Kissinger is still available...

Mixed response.....

Re: jkeogh's post above: Courage in the Live Free or Die State

Rep. Stella Tremblay stands by comment that marathon bombings 'Black Ops terrorist attack.' (Londonderry Patch)

Comments on the Londonderry Patch are mixed. There are some supporters, some partisan responses and some people calling her crazy. Can someone please tell me what is going on with the American people? I was taught about yellow journalism in school but I never saw any media reform, so why do people trust the media? Was there political reform after Watergate? What was the outcome of the Church Committee: "it looks like the government is corrupt; how many will we be for lunch....show of hands please." Everyone has heard a million lawyer jokes and politician jokes ("would you buy a used car from this guy) but when you suggest that these people are actually doing something devious you are crazy.

I haven't had a chance to read it yet but I have a book on my Kindle titled: Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam the premise of the book is that the whole My Lai Massacre affair was just a limited hang out and that "killing everything that moves" was command level policy. So, as usual, we only get part of the story and people just eat it up. Re: aforementioned book, I had to buy it because there were 60 "holds on first copy returned" at my local library, so someone must be paying attention; I just don't know.

U.S. had more tips on Boston suspect; Congress asks questions


U.S. had more tips on Boston suspect; Congress asks questions


U.S. had more tips on Boston suspect; Congress asks questions

By Patricia Zengerle, Samuel P. Jacobs and Mark Hosenball

WASHINGTON/CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts | Wed Apr 24, 2013

(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence knew more about the movements of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects than previously reported, U.S. officials said on Wednesday, raising more questions about the government's handling of the case and the sharing of information among agencies.

U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the FBI was alerted when Tamerlan Tsarnaev traveled to Russia last year. They also said Russia, which had tipped off the FBI about its concerns over Tsarnaev in early 2011, made a second, identical request to the CIA in late September 2011.

Police say the ethnic Chechens Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev planted and detonated two pressure-cooker bombs near the finish line of the marathon on April 15, killing three people and injuring 264.

A briefing by the FBI before the House Intelligence Committee revealed that the two brothers apparently became radicalized by anti-U.S. information on the Internet, members of Congress said.

"It looks like they built their bomb based on ‘Inspire' magazine and the article said how to build a bomb in mom's kitchen," said Representative Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.

The online magazine "Inspire," circulated by Yemen-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, publishes English-language exhortations to would-be Western jihadists to carry out attacks with whatever means they have at hand. It recently published detailed instructions on how to build homemade devices.

"The younger bomber in whatever type of communication he's using said that's where they got the instruction to build the bomb," Ruppersberger said.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed in a shootout with police Friday and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, was wounded, captured and charged with crimes that could result in the death penalty if he is convicted. Dzhokhar remained in fair condition in hospital on Wednesday, officials said.

Attention has focused on the elder brother as the driving force behind the bombings. U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, described a four month-long investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 after Russia's intelligence service, known as the FSB, told the Americans that Tamerlan had become a follower of radical Islam.

As part of the FBI's probe, Tamerlan's name was entered into a U.S. Customs and Border Protection database known as TECS.

U.S. officials said when Tamerlan left the United States for a six-month stay in Russia in January 2012, the TECS database sent an alert to the Joint Terrorism Task Force, a multi-agency FBI-led body in Boston.

more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/25/us-usa-explosions-boston-shooting-idUSBRE93I0GQ20130425

Familiar ring

'The online magazine "Inspire," circulated by Yemen-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, publishes English-language exhortations to would-be Western jihadists to carry out attacks with whatever means they have at hand.'

'Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula'--isn't that the outfit that was reportedly going to bomb a plane with a new supposedly undetectable bomb, but the attempt was 'foiled' by U.S. and Saudi intelligence? Then it turned out that the would-be bomber was really working for the CIA, so the story had to be re-spun, and the would-be bomber was re-cast as a heroic 'infiltrator'? Who, if the Associated Press hadn't irresponsibly blown his cover, would have, like, totally gone on to expose still more of this group's plans (so that maybe even the Boston Marathon plot could have been prevented)?:



Yet more examples of the kinds of info from the past which we need to keep presenting to people in the face of this latest propaganda offensive.

If that plot from spring 2012 hadn't been 'foiled' but actually resulted in a bomb being detonated on a plane, does anyone doubt that this operative would still be being touted as an example of the kind of terrorist of whom we need to live in fear, rather than an 'infiltrator' in the pay of U.S. intelligence?

Another Cons....

You know another con... uhh... organized... highly organized attack on the country.:


Without Subtitles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMzkIR1ymw

Come on Mr. President... you can say it.

Re: The online magazine "Inspire...."

Do they take adverts? I have about 300 lbs of khat close to harvest and would like to move into into Yemen through Djibouti.

there is a "reply" link

On every comment.

Rachel Maddow Froths At Alex Jones

The PSYOPS Teams are busy in the Infowars comments

Army Psy Ops Units Targeted American Senators: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/24/1545227/Army-Psy-Ops-Units-Targeted-American-Senators

Report: Army targeted U.S. senators with psy-ops - General sought to manipulate ~VIPs in order to elicit more funding, troops, according to Rolling Stone article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41753749/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

So, Why Does the Air Force Want Hundreds of Fake Online Identities on Social Media?: http://www.bnet.com/blog/technology-business/so-why-does-the-air-force-want-hundreds-of-fake-online-identities-on-social-m...

Exclusive: Military’s ‘persona’ software cost millions, used for ‘classified social media activities’: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/22/exclusive-militarys-persona-software-cost-millions-used-for-classified-social-media-...

Another ‘runaway general’? Military reportedly employed ‘psyops’ against US Senators: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/24/runaway-us-general-employed-psyops-against-us-senators-report/

Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

Army embeds active-duty PSYOPS soldiers at local TV stations: http://www.infowars.com/army-embeds-active-duty-psyops-soldiers-at-local-tv-stations/

Local news stations training psychological ops soldiers: report: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/news-stations-training-psyops-soldiers/

Does The Government Manipulate Social Media?: http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2009/01/government-heavily-manipulates-social.html

The Fear Factory: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/18137343/the_fear_factory

Military Report: Secretly ‘Recruit or Hire Bloggers’: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/03/report-recruit/

Great Post!

It looks like Maddow is in full damage control and trying to make it look like a standard editorial. Rachel Maddow went to Oxford and I didn't. How then is it that I know that the true 9/11 story is still unwritten and she doesn't? When a football team is on a losing streak they always have a little program to "focus on the basics," and other silly stuff like that: "its all about ball control, we have to take full advantage of our possession time, hold down turn-overs and move the ball down-field and the defense has to stop the opposition." Doesn't Oxford focus on the basics anymore? Let's take a brief look at just a few of the luminaries who attended Oxford: Edmund Halley, astronomer/ William Harvey, scientist who discovered the circulation of the blood/Thomas Hobbes, philosopher/Robert Hooke, scientist/Dr Samuel Johnson, lexicographer/John Locke, philosopher/Sir Richard Lovelace, poet and of course the list goes on and on.

So Maddow starts talking about conspiracy theories and her "research" is all predicated on three books The 9/11 Commission Report and The 9/11 Report: A Graphic Adaptation (the easy teenage version*) and Debunking 9/11 Myths and I must admit I got this real sinking feeling like when you are at the barber shop and the only things around to read are Field and Stream , Red Book , and Juggs . Come on, Oxford girl, is that all you've got? And she bandies those books about as if they were dictum or the latest scholarly journal like Zeitschrift für Naturwissenschaften or something. I wonder if the Graphic Novel version of the 9/11 report shows Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton pale faced and sweating bullets as they "secrete these notions from the backs of their glands*" C'mon, Rachel, really? Oxford,really?

Look, I am just a guy but when the Democratic Party called my house I asked if they were members of the DNC and they said they were. I have every reason to believe that they had no input in national policy because they told me as much. There is nothing grass roots about it at all and they told me that "we have to fight on the local level." I am not being partisan here, I know it to be the same with the RNC; we don't elect candidates,they are selected (and then "re-selected" by voter fraud if the outcome isn't favored). I say this because Maddow then goes to search for reason within the political spectrum as if there were a dialog and there isn't and I know that she knows this because she went to Oxford and I didn't.

*"easy teenage version" tip of the hat to Frank Zappa for that turn of phrase

*"secrete these notions from the back of their glands" swiped from the redoubtable Vladimir Nabokov

UPDATE: Naked man arrested in Watertown, MA related to boston bo

UPDATE: Naked man arrested in Watertown, MA related to boston bombing


That's not a update. The video and interview are from the 19th. It's not the same person as the deceased person in the hospital. As far as I know no other information is available on him.

Boston Strong

That's the same principle that led then-lawyer-and-revolutionary John Adams to vigorously defend five British soldiers (of the hated occupying army) accused of one of the most notorious crimes of the revolutionary period: the 1770 murder of five colonists in Boston as part of the so-called Boston Massacre. As the ACLU explained, no lawyers were willing to represent the soldiers because "of the virulent anti-British sentiment in Boston" and "Adams later wrote that he risked infamy and even death, and incurred much popular suspicion and prejudice."

Ultimately, Adams called his defense of these soldiers "one of the most gallant, generous, manly and disinterested actions of my whole life, and one of the best pieces of service I ever rendered my country." That's because Adams understood what Paine understood: if you permit the government to trample upon the basic rights of those whom you hate, then you're permitting the government to trample upon those rights in general, for everyone.


Thanks for reminding us of that!

Thank Orangutan and Glen Greewwald, not me

I just copied and pasted from the Greenwald link Orangutan posted

More skepticism re what we're being told

I hope that--rather than being confined to Infowars viewers and the websites who link to them--skepticism towards the official version of the Boston bombings is able to get some room to grow without being drowned out by the all too predictable wails of 'this was retribution for US policies!' from all those supposedly antiwar left 'alternative' commentators, who through twelve years have largely shown themselves to be impervious to all the evidence indicating that the official 9/11 story is false, and who continue to do Muslim populations no favors by accepting seemingly without question the official account of who-did-what.

In this context, it was encouraging to me to see this piece at Dissident Voice:

The most benign hypothesis is that the FBI was using Tsarnaev as a means of infiltrating and securing intelligence on other possible ‘terrorists’. A more plausible hypothesis is that the Boston office of the FBI had set the pair of brothers up for a sting operation in order to enhance their anti-terrorist credentials – and that the ‘operation’ got out of hand – with Tamarlan having his own agenda. The most likely hypothesis is that the FBI facilitated the bombing in order to revive the flagging fortunes of the ‘war on terror’ foisted on a war-weary and economically depressed American public.


f##ing confusing

got an email from a friend about this today. I have no clue cuz I haven't taken time to peice the stories together, but here is what my friend had to say:

According to "Danny," at some point during his ordeal, Dzhokhar abandoned the brothers' original car (the green Honda) and jumped in the back seat of Danny's carjacked SUV to be with his brother.

Corroborating Danny's account, the FBI claimed in an affidavit that after Danny escaped, the brothers drove to Watertown together in Danny's SUV.
However, we now know that BOTH cars ended up at the scene of the Laurel St shootings.

So now, in addition to believing that the brothers were insane enough to linger at the Shell station after their carjack hostage had escaped there, we are now asked to believe also that they then circled back to retrieve their previously abandoned green Honda, which, okay, might make sense IF the purpose of doing so had been to ditch the stolen SUV, which they surely knew would immediately be placed under a super-hyper-active APB.
However, they apparently didn't ditch the stolen SUV.

The inconsistency between the FBI's affidavit and the final location of the green Honda potentially places new import on local eyewitness "Linda"'s testimony. Recall she had said that a suspect was run over by a "police SUV"...(and subsequently "shot multiple times").

Question: What if the FBI's affidavit had actually been correct; what if brothers had done the common sense thing and ditched the SUV in Cambridge? What's more, what if the brothers had never been in Danny's SUV to begin with? What if they were both in their Honda the whole time? Remember, Danny told Matt Lauer that he did not believe that Tamerlan looked like the FBI's pics, AND the Globe reported last week that Danny had "abided" his carjacker's orders to not look at their faces. Not exactly a reliable witness!

Another notable factoid that might play into the Honda inconsistency is the somewhat memory-holed WCVB report about friendly fire that night, (not including the shooting of Transit police officer Dic Donahue):
Team 5's Kathy Curran reported:
"Multiple sources tell us an investigation is underway on whether or not a state trooper was firing at Boston police officer Kenny Conley and state police Lt. Dan Wells, who were on patrol together in an unmarked state police truck."

A very big By the Way... notice that the Officer Kenny Conley mentioned in this report just so happens to be the same Officer Kenny Conley who, you might recall, had crossed the thin blue line in an investigation involving the accidental beating of a black police officer back in the 90s...AND who was, shall we say, not exactly beloved by the FBI...talk about a marked man!
File under: Just sayin':

Given all of this, is it just possible that there was a deliberate attempt by some working the scene that night to create confusion, possibly in an attempt to ensure the brothers would not live to talk? And might deliberate confusion also help explain the barrage of gunfire shot at the unarmed Dzhokhar later in the day?

And might all of this perhaps also explain why the FBI reportedly violated Dzhokhar's rights?


Interesting points

A number of interesting points, so much to consider. I admit I was unaware of 'Danny's' comment to Matt Lauer; not to mention the report concerning Officer Conley, and his background.

But one thing that puzzles me is when you say, 'What if the FBI's affidavit had actually been correct; what if brothers had done the common sense thing and ditched the SUV in Cambridge?' I thought the Digital Journal piece said the FBI's affidavit was all about the SUV, and that it was the Green Honda which they neglected to mention, in contrast to the reports of local police:

'But the FBI's affidavit in court says that both suspects arrived in the same carjacked vehicle, a black Mercedes SUV. The investigation opens the question of who drove the green Honda.'

And then he was shot at in the boat...

Complete with cartoon:

Different things reported about the boat situation:
(dont have time find all the soruces atm, I will save them if someone else does)
It was reported he shot at police from inside the boat.
He shot himself.
He stabbed himself.
He had no weapons at all.
A FBI negotiator talked him out.
Then it was reported that police could have been shooting at each other (at the boat), "friendly fire", which begs the obvious question...

FLIR/Vis boat footage from Helicopter:


I count over 20 bullet holes: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/p480x480/376169_10151428233155617_1148066429_n.jpg
(anyone have the source for that image?)

No Metadata

Why did police unload on the boat?

This questions demands real investigation and full disclosure.

This video is the full version of the gunfire at the boat taken by a Watertown resident. We now know the suspect was unarmed. so why the barrage of gunfire?

The MSM rubbish is the typical "fog of war" spelled out in this Esquire article (and repeated elsewhere). http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-unarmed-042513

"Law enforcement officials described the 30 minutes before the arrest of Tsarnaev as chaotic. One characterized it as "the fog of war" and said that in a highly charged atmosphere, one accidental shot could have caused what police call contagious fire. Officers from several agencies gathered around the Watertown house as darkness fell. The FBI was in charge of the scene"

But as you can hear in the video, there was no "single shot," just an instantaneous hail of bullets.

There is this babble reported in the LA Times http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/21/nation/la-na-boston-bombings-watertown-20130421

"Authorities discussed using a robot to peer into the boat and see whether Tsarnaev had a bomb or any explosive devices. While they readied that, a FBI negotiator began calling to Tsarnaev from the second floor of the boat owner's house, ordering him to stand up with his hands raised. At one point, police said, they saw Tsarnaev poking through the tarp on the boat with what appeared to be a sword. This may have been what initiated the gunfire that resounded through the darkening neighborhood, Deveau says."

A sword? A friggin sword? I don't think police found any sword, either.

False story about the pic of Tsarnaev on the boat.


The caption on the pic:
"This image, taken from a surveillance camera shows Dzhokhar Tsarnaev climbing into a boat Friday morning after a police gun battle. He was later found in the boat and captured"

Which is trivially shown to be not true buy the FLIR video:

Not to mention the obvious bullet holes in the photograph.

Man Shot in Boston Bombing Investigation

A man was fatally shot by the FBI during an investigation of the Boston Bombing and related incidents:


Florida Officials Will NOT Investigate FBI Execution Of Unarmed

Florida Officials Will NOT Investigate FBI Execution Of Unarmed Man Being Questioned About Boston.

Florida law enforcement agencies refuse to probe killing of Boston Marathon bombing witness: Autopsy photos documenting his wounds suggest that the young man had been shot while he was on the ground at point-blank range

9/11 Truth enters into the equation...

Boston bomber followed conspiracy theories on 9/11, OKC Bombing: Tamerlan Tsarnaev subscribed to publications "espousing government conspiracy theories" — specifically, that the September 11th terror attacks and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing were both orchestrated by the U.S. government.

BBC Panorama link Boston bomber to 9/11 Truth: "The programme discovered that Tamerlan Tsarnaev possessed articles which argued that both 9/11 and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing were government conspiracies"


9/26/2014 Update - Good find!

This reporter, James Henry, does a great job. Real reporting!! ...and (ha!)he is probably messing up the works for the prosecutors concerning this case.

WBZ Boston: FBI doesn't know where Marathon bombs were built

Contrary to the CNN reports.