DOT officials trying to stop 9/11 graffiti on bridges, overpasses
HARTFORD, CT (WFSB) -
Some graffiti popping up on highways has a lot of people talking, and the state isn't too happy about how a group of vandals are trying to get their message across.
Eyewitness News explains what it all means and the lengths one state agency is going to cut down on it.
When people drive around central Connecticut, it's hard to miss some of the graffiti popping up on bridges, overpasses and road signs that says "9-11 Truth," "W-T-C" and "Building 7."
All the phrases are scrawled across overpasses on some major highways. The Connecticut Department of Transportation is fed up with graffiti and doesn't have enough resources to keep up with it.
"It's finite resources," said Kevin Nursick, who is spokesman for the Connecticut DOT. "There are a lot of needs out there. There are limited funds."
And it's the taxpayers picking up the tab to clean it all up.
"I would estimate that annually we spend probably half a million to a million dollars dealing with graffiti," Nursick said.
But what does "9-11 Truth" even mean? And who is climbing up on bridges to do it?
Wayne Coste is a member of a group called the architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth. Coste said he's not sure who the vandals are, but he does know about the message they are trying to spread.
"The official story about what happened doesn't seem to add up," Coste said.
Coste, who is a structural engineer, got involved with the group about three years ago to try to answer his own lingering questions about the science behind the building collapses on 9/11.
As for what the "Building 7" graffiti refers to, Coste said, "Most people don't even know that a third major skyscraper was destroyed on 9/11."
Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane, but collapsed after a fire. People such as Coste contend the science behind that explanation doesn't add up and believe an explosion brought it down.
Coste said he doesn't condone the graffiti, but could see why it would be showing up
"There's somebody that's frustrated that the story isn't getting out," Coste said.
The controversial graffiti can be spotted in places that are pretty tough to reach by the average person.
"The folks that are doing it are using some sort of specialized equipment, repelling harnesses, etc.," Nursick said.
Risky moves by vandals put more than just their own safety at risk.
"They're putting the public at risk. If they fall, if something falls, you have cars below, people below," Nursick said. "And then you're putting our staff at risk because we have to go out there and deal with it."
DOT crews work on cleaning up the graffiti only when pressing issues are resolved.
One thing is certain - the graffiti has people talking and wondering.
"If there's some sort of truth that needs to be revealed, that we haven't seen yet," said Nick D'Amato, of Hartford, "I would be open to that."
"I don't really find a problem with it," said Joe Turnage, of Cromwell.
While others said they are just tired of the mess.
"Whoever's creating this type of environment should really look at the damage," said Hector Rodriguez, of Windsor.
Eyewitness News may not know who is doing it, but DOT officials said they no sooner get it painted over when it pops up again.
"There are places for people to express their opinions and beliefs," Nursick said. "Vandalizing state infrastructure is not one of them."
Also covered here: http://911blogger.com/news/2013-07-08/911-truth-graffiti-building-seven
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Over my seven years / public 911 truth activism
This issue of vandalism has long been an issue of division for me from some with-in the 911 truth movement. I had to distance myself on several occasions from INFOWAR / WE ARE CHANGE activists who from time to time joined in our Edmonton911Truth group and tried add vandalism as a legitimate action to our already established 9/11 Civil Information Actions. Spray painted Graffiti re-911 or infowar stickers has been seen on public property in Edmonton for years and I've dreaded the negative impact this probably had on the 911 truth movement as a whole..
Today my website also home to Edmonton 911 Truth displays a policy that reads...
1/ This site is an Alex Jones INFOWAR CONSPIRACY FREE SITE
2/ This site promotes RESPECT for ALL PEOPLE, PROPERTY and the RULE OF LAW.
3/ This site promotes ZERO TOLERANCE to Hate, Racism, Islam-phobia and Antisemitism.
Recently I published this YouTube titled: Keep our City INFOWAR VANDALISM FREE!
The good news for me is I recently noticed on the INFOWAR website that they have removed the 9/11 truth section completely from their front page - GREAT I'M THINKING!
cause the farther the 911 truth movement is distant from Alex and his conspiracy shenanigans the better... (my opinion)
http://www.ciactivist.org/
Brilliant!
So then people shouldn't watch this absolutely brilliant presentation by David Icke at the Oxford Union because he believes in Lizard People (whatever that is)? If anyone hasn't seen this it is quite interesting and lizard free: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCwAcJ78a8A
Oxford Union http://www.oxford-union.org/
I catch AJ from time to time, and I do suspect he has an agenda and perhaps even handlers but you sound like an old Bob Dylan fan sobbing when he went electric like that old fraud was ever genuine to begin with. Below he receives a medal from Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Obama:
More Sobbing on my part ... RE: UNRELATED CONSPIRACIES
Here on his own YouTube an INFOWAR/ We Are Change activist named Jeff is caught vandalizing public and private property in Edmonton, Alberta Canada... What was the point of him involving the 9/11 truth movement of Edmonton with "INFOWAR'S Poison in the Tap Water Campaign?" I believe it was designed to hurt the local 9/11 truth movement by watering down the 9/11 truth message with unrelated conspiracy theories and a failed attempt to incriminate the local 9/11 truth group as vandals...
By Doug Brinkman
This is the story behind this YouTube
Political right / left never the route to follow
So,let me get this straight.
So,let me get this straight. Fluoridation of tap water began in the 1950's,which means all the dentists you interviewed had NEVER seen a patient who had NOT been drinking fluoridated tap water for DECADES. How is that a basis for comparison? Remember that doctors & scientists are JUST PEOPLE and are subject to the Powers that Be same as everyone else. They may practice ONLY IF they have a license from the PTB,etc. They read journals (But are not themselves involved in the studies) & simply parrot the conclusions. They accept,as a matter of faith,what they are told knowing if they strayed from the herd & say something contrary to consensus/dogma there will be personal consequences for them PERSONALLY.
When the Powers That Be was the Catholic Church,the scientific CONSENSUS was that the earth was flat and the Sun revolved around it. Never forget that.
INFOWAR INFILTRATES ANTI GMO RALLY with it's conspiracies
Not only the 9/11 Truth Movement in Edmonton was infiltrated with trashy unrelated conspiracies by INFOWAR - This past spring as a reporter I outed these Alex Jones clones for infiltrating the Monsanto anti GMO cause with poison in the tap water chemtrail conspiracies and other nutty conspiracy theories...
Civil Information Activist Doug Brinkman - http://www.ciactivist.org/
Edmonton Joins the march against GMO giant Monsanto 430 cities from around the planet : Edmonton May 25, 2013. Organizers say two million people marched in protest against seed giant Monsanto in hundreds of rallies across Canada, the U.S. and dozens of other countries on Saturday.
Just around 1000 protesters marched through the Old Strathcona area of Edmonton. It's a march aimed at rallying against a corporate giant which many believe has become the enemy of sustainable healthy food. A few hot tempers flared by drivers inconvenienced by the march holding up traffic while EPS kept their distance during the march.
At the end of a drizzly over-cast day with less than 100 some protesters left, an open mike had INFOWAR protesters turn the focus away from GMO Monsanto and spotlight their own brand of unrelated conspiracies such as chemtrails covering our skies, dangerous flu-shots, and the dangers of fluoride in our tooth-paste and drinking water conspiracies.
The Final Insult from INFOWAR - 900 Petitioned Signatures Wasted
A YouTube Message to Paul Dewar and ALL MPs in Ottawa
To MP The Honorable Paul Dewar
From Doug Brinkman
Former 9/11 Truth Activist
From the 1400 signatures collected calling for a made in Canada Independent Public Investigation of 9/11 - 900+ of which were collected by me only in Edmonton
A SERIOUS MISTAKE - I've learned this December 2012.
Today David Long and his WE ARE CHANGE OTTAWA friends are using those signatures I collected in part to attack you personally for not wanting to read those petitions in Parliament. This petition has become political issue as almost all those alternative media outlets they added as credits on this shameful video include the likes of Alex Jones/ Infowar - known for his right wing political rants - some of which contain bazaar untrue conspiracies, often attacking the political left.
They signed those petitions for a 9/11 Investigation in Canada.
Please send the 900+ portion of petitions collected from Edmonton back to me so that I may find another MP willing to read this petition on behalf of Edmontonians.
Those 900 signatures are now trashed thanks to WAC/ INFOWAR
The 900 plus signatures I collected by myself that was later used as a political attack against the NDP by WAC Ottawa are now trashed.
I took a break from it all for almost a year until I was asked to help bring Richard Gage to Edmonton on stage speaking at the Stanley Milner Library on 9/11. Our small group got back together and put on the show with the financial help from Vancouver 911 Truth...
Last Spring without the help of INFOWAR/ WAC I commenced with another 9/11 civil information action at the Alberta Legislature...
Edmonton's Meek little mice & Gandhi's relaunch 9/11 Civil Actions after 420 Rally
By Doug (Nobody) Brinkman - April 20, 2013
Civil Information Activism - http://www.ciactivist.org/
Critic & 9/11 Truther Jack Blood formerly of American Freedom Radio has never been a fan of "Civil Information Activism" as he would rather you get mad and scream at the top of your civil resistance lungs "9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!"
Edmonton 911 Truthers may have been like meek little mice and Gandhi's but no one including Jack Blood can deny the profound effect Civil Information Actions have had on Edmonton when it came to raising the awareness to the questionable events of 9/11.
YouTube Playlist - 40 Reports 9/11 Civil Information Actions March 2007 to date... http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL01E386691B197A96
Final Thoughts...
To Orangutan. Sorry for going way off topic here, but I think that much of the hooligans behind the vandalism, violence and hate is inspired daily by the likes of Alex Jones and their advertising driven questionable conspiracies - The further we can separate ourselves from the likes of INFOWAR the better for the public perception of what 911 truth stands for. I remember my first experience learning what INFOWAR stood for - We had an INFOWAR activist in 2007 attack a nearby Masonry Hall by vandalizing it's mailbox with INFOWAR 9/11 stickers during our first ever 9/11 action. I knew then that INFOWAR was going to be a problem for the 911 truth movement. We must actively and publicly condemn vandalism, violence, racism and hate - that includes blaming the 9/11 attacks on Jews...
To Peter ORourke "Sniff sniff Sob Sob" INDEED ANOTHER 911 CIVIL INFORMATION ACTION IS PLANNED FOR AUGUST 10,11 - AT AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION (To avoid INFOWAR/WAC poison in the water infiltration) - MORE THAN A HALF DOZEN PEOPLE WILL BE JOINING ME... NO ONE WILL BE BRINGING ANY PAINT SPRAY CANS "Sniff sniff Sob Sob" JUST THE SAME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE, PROPERTY AND THE RULE OF LAW IS ALL WE NEED "Sniff sniff Sob Sob" ,<- Town Cryer
Weird Re: Alex Jones and 9/11 Truth
I never saw that till you pointed it out since I don't go there as much these days. But yeah Alex Jones has removed 9/11 Truth from infowars.com home page. What does that mean?? I find it kind of disconcerting
Not an INFOWAR issue...
Alex rarely talks about 9/11 on his show according to the publisher of "Leaving Alex Jonestown" who follows his show regularly . I tune in from time to time and never hear anything about 9/11 unless guests like Richard Gage is invited on his show. In past Alex Jones has claimed being leader of the 911 truth movement and what's interesting is Jonathan Kay author of "Among the Truthers" claims the same of Alex in his book. For a long time Jones claimed he predicted the 911 attacks...
Used to be a MAJOR infowar issue
I remember back in 2005-06 when I first got into 9/11 Truth tuning in Alex Jones show every day. I cut my 9/11 Truth teeth on the Alex Jones show and infowars.com He covered it day after day back then and did so for the 3 years or so that I listened to him. Every day you tuned in and went to infowars.com looking for something new about 9/11. He used to exhort us to the fight, to get into 9/11 Truth activism, you know to get busy on social media like DIGG and to go out to the streets with our 9/11 Truth banners, phone talk radio shows, talk to our politicians about 9/11 truth etc etc Now I'm sorry to say it looks like he's dropped the issue. That is disappointing
Alex with Megaphone
Alex was out in front of the fallen WTC with a megaphone blasting the truth and it's sad that he now has more or less dropped the topic. As to some of the other issues here - fluoride - it's so toxic that workers handling the drums have to wear hazmat suits. It has no effect on cavities - all cherry picked false results.
As to graffiti, everyone forgets it was condoned by Norman Mailer in a book, The Faith of Graffiti 1973 and from then on was accepted by polite society as art - UNFORTUNATELY. As to the $1/2 -1 million annually it takes to clean off CT highways, why not hold an investigation in CT into the fall of the WTC instead. It would be cheaper for the state - until then graffiti is the only way to get the word out economically.
Fluoride is not a 9/11 Truth issue - get there own movement
Sorry I disagree - Fluoride is safe by the amounts used in city drinking water and it does help prevent against tooth decay as MOST experts, scientists and dentists agree - "megaphones" Alex did put on a show as did some of his INFOWARRIOR peers... But In Edmonton we quickly stopped using megaphones in 2007 when we learned we were pissing people off rather than informing them and educating them with researched evidence of controlled demolition, WTC7 and Nano Thermate in the WTC dust... So we did weekly actions at the farmer's markets, rallies, festivals, football games and busy street corners for 5 years instead - People love to talk face to face - they do not like getting yelled at "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!" - We continued on with more civil approaches with film events and speaking conferences - "Edmonton Questions 9/11"... I think people like to be treated with respect rather than getting yelled at...
I'll bet you a Canadian Loonie to your American Dollar most people in America would be pissed off seeing "9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB" graffiti splashed all over public and private property...
It never was a GENUINE infowar issue
Having 911 critique linked with Alex Jones was always a negative, a liability.
Talk about 'smear by association' for the truth movement, having Alex Jones self-proclaim as its leader!
If the Powers That Be hadn't had Alex Jones to channel the truth movement under his drawling, brawling megaphone - so off-putting to so many, particularly non-Americans - they'd have had to invent him.
UNRELATED REQUEST FOR HELP WITH RESEARCH
I'm looking for a link to the website run by the former wife of the pilot
who flew Reagan et al to Europe to negotiate the non-release of the
Iranian prisoners until after Reagan's inauguration.
..
Does anyone have that one?
Graffiti is a double edged
Graffiti is a double edged sword as regards 9/11 Truth. On one hand, I am all for spreading the word and "street art"/graffiti does get a lot of visibility. However, many people dislike graffiti and therefore messaging in this style will associate 9/11 truth with vandalism. Not sure where to stand on this....
In this case it was a plus
Wayne Coste would not have been on the news to advocate the position of AE911Truth and to disapprove of graffiti (while sympathizing with the frustration of those whose message is being ignored) without the graffiti providing the story.
Yes, this is a positive news item.
Agreed. This news item was rational and nicely balanced, in contrast to some of the infantile hit-pieces that have infested the corporate media in recent years. The mention of Building 7 was especially valuable.
There is no bad ink
And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls"
And whispered in the sounds of silence'
Reach the Most Eyes Possible
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell