We Were Lied To About 9/11 - Episode 27 - Abby Martin


Abby Martin is an American journalist and former host of Breaking the Set on the RT America network, working from the Washington, D.C. bureau. Before hosting her own show, she had worked for two years as a correspondent for RT America. Martin is also an artist and activist, and helped found the citizen journalism website, Media Roots. She serves on the board of directors for the Media Freedom Foundation which manages Project Censored. Martin appeared in the documentary film Project Censored The Movie: Ending the Reign of Junk Food News (2013), and co-directed 99%: The Occupy Wall Street Collaborative Film (2013).


It sounds reasonable, but are you guys being honest?

It's all very well, Jon and Abby, to avoid the extremist fringe of the 911 movement, in fact it's essential to do so. But there ARE facts that have been unearthed in detail by many non-extremist researchers indicating the high likelihood that explosives were responsible for the collapse of the three WTC buildings. In addition, explosions WERE heard by many second responders and other bystanders on that day, AND molten steel was seen at the base of the twin towers that required heat greatly in excess of what could be produced by hydrocarbon or office fires. All that being true, it is false for you to claim as leaders in the 911 movement that 'I just don't know how the buildings came down.' We know the nature and cause of the collapse as well as we know any phenomenon in our world through seeing with our own eyes and by relying on the opinion of experts, in this case engineers, scientists and physicists. Then there is a logical and smooth transition moving from this understanding, to believing the collapse of the buildings was an inside job. Covering up the truth that 9/11 was to a large extent at least an inside job may be politically correct. You may think it will help the public as a whole to be more interested in listening to us. But I doubt strongly it will encourage the media, who make public opinion, to start taking us seriously--because the media are still controlled heavily by the CIA and probably by other intelligence agencies as well. The only alternative is to tell the truth as we understand it, using as much tact and understanding of the listener's current beliefs as we can muster.

It's not about being...

"Politically correct," and has never been. Nor has it been about getting the corporate media to "start taking us seriously." That ship never sailed, nor was it ever going to (though it would have saved us a lot of trouble that's for sure). It's been about helping the families, the responders, and trying to put an end to the "Post-9/11 World," and everything that entails. It's been about getting people to understand why this is so important. It's been about reaching a majority of people so that there can be real truth, accountability and justice. It's been about building bridges. It's been about trying to get those with a voice to start acknowledging the fact that we were lied to about that day so they start telling others about it (which this episode was about essentially). It's been about fighting our adversaries and evolving to beat them. Not everyone accepts what you say about the buildings. That's a fact. You'll notice that Abby said she still has questions about WTC7, and I said that there's nothing wrong with questioning how those buildings came down. I also had a show dedicated to the topic with 9/11 Family Member Bob McIlvaine.

Here is the description for my show...

"I look at 9/11 as a crime, and not an act of war. As with every crime, there are suspects for that crime. I believe that along with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, elements within our Government and other Governments have MORE THAN EARNED the title of suspect for the crime of 9/11. That being said, I don't know what happened that day, or who was ultimately responsible. Admitting this, in my opinion, has made me a better advocate for 9/11 Justice. Here's what I do know. I do know that we were lied to about a great many things about that day. I do know that there are many examples of individuals attempting to cover up this or that. I do know that there are many examples of people outright lying about the attacks. I do know that people who should have been held accountable, were instead rewarded and promoted. I do know that many polls over the years show that a majority of people question what we were told about that day. I do know that the corporate media has only attacked those who question what we were told about that day. I do know that each investigation we had, had its own version of corruption and compromise, especially the 9/11 Commission. I do know that the families who lost someone that day, and the people of the world both deserve and require real truth, accountability and justice for what happened that day. The last thing I know is that because of all of the lies of 9/11, there is no justification for all of the evil that we have committed in the name of that day, and in the names of those lost that day. I don't want to focus on theories about what happened that day. I want to focus on the fact that we were lied to about 9/11. It's a simple and true statement, and I'm hoping that it reaches a majority of people. I want to educate people about everything I just said. Learning about 9/11 is a very hard and daunting task. I want to help people with it, and that is why I am having this show. I want to thank Cindy Sheehan for asking me to do this. She is my hero and my friend."

That's what my show is about. I have never been dishonest.

I am disappointed. I am sorry, but I have to say...

I am sorry to say what I am about to say, because my intention is not cause discord or some kind of argument.
I just want to express my opinion, my personal feelings and values.

Personally, I am disappointed to hear that Abby is unsure that the three Towers were a controlled demolition.

I am also disappointed in a recent May action which Abby took. In the above John Gold interview she talks about regretting some of her past "rudely aggressive, in-your-face, make-you-bitterly-wrong, confrontations with uninformed and uneducated public". However...

...Recently, Martin shared an Instagram photo of herself wearing a “Fuck Chris Kyle” T-shirt which, of course, caused an equal opposite reaction. http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/05/10/ugly-america-abby-martin-stunt-triggers-death-rape-threats-from-chris-kyle-followers/

I don't agree with this kind of tactic (the T-shirt).
I am of the opinion, "educate, don't hit". A good teacher or wise person would not yell, curse, invalidate, or intentionally cause immediate "make wrong". A good teacher would educate, promoting aspects which were positive and without causing deliberate discord.
Why cause trouble and "un-peace"?
Why not just promote the truth to those who will listen, to those who are interested in finding out more?
Why be negative and be a cause of discord when one could be positive and a cause of truth and peace?

I like the words of this man...
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PS - I am not going to get into a back-n-forth argument. I just felt like I should express my opinion. That is all it is... my personal opinion. I am not trying to cause discord.

My personal opinion...

Is that she has the freedom of speech. Whether we like it or not. She has a history speaking out against the propaganda that "American Sniper" was. The response she received, was absolutely disgusting. Abby addresses what she did and what happened here. As for Abby being "unsure that the three Towers were a controlled demolition," I can't say it enough, but it's not, nor has it ever been a requirement to believe that to be an advocate for 9/11 Justice, and she did question WTC7 during my show.

Do what works for you

'Why be negative...?' Because there is much in this world about which we ought to be negative.

Sometimes the atmosphere is so thick with propaganda BS, it takes a discordant note to pierce the air; to break the illusion of an unquestioning consensus. Without that, there will be times when those who would educate will have a hard time having their very existence acknowledged, let alone finding an audience

thank you Jon...

and also Abby for all your efforts! Keep up the great work.



Hi Jon

Nice to see you're still at it. Sad to see the threats against Abby in the news.


Stopped. Yes, it's very sad.

You got their attention once more.


Abby has certainly opened many eyes to 9/11, and should be applauded for her plain spoken truth on stage and in front of the camera. She had a lot of courage to expose herself in this way, week after week on RT. I didn't agree with everything she's addressed, but wow, she did it with style and passion. Now it's time to put the differences behind us and come to her aid if she needs it. I'd like to see her do her good work for many years to come.

Spoofing--Has anyone else experienced this?

A few times over the past year or so, including as recently as today, I have received an email message supposedly sent from the guestbook of Abby's website, informing me that I have just left a comment on the guestbook. Which is false every time, as I have never left a comment there. It then reproduces the text of the comment in question, and it is always something trolling and disruptive.

Following that, it says:

Above is your comment in Abby Martin's guestbook. You can see it here:

To DELETE your comment click here:

I do not click on the links, but instead navigate to the page on my browser. The troll's comment is there, posted under a name I don't recognize, with nothing to indicate anyone's email address.

So it seems like, if I'm not actually being spoofed, the idea is to make me think that I am. Via someone who got access to my email address at some point.

I wonder, has anything like this ever happened to anyone else here? And if so, were there any steps you took?

Sorry, I don't mean to distract from the posted interview with Abby. But I've been wanting to raise this question, and thought maybe I could try asking it here.

troll comments on guestbook

Would you mind saying the usernames or username publicly here? There is one troll in particular who has spoofed people in the truth movement before, it may be the same person. That's an odd glitch/error though, as far as i know you don't have to login to leave a guestbook comment, so i'm not sure exactly what's happening.


I'm sorry I did not keep track of the names under which the comments I'm referring to were posted; and, unfortunately, the recent examples for which I received email notification got deleted from my spam box. Sorry about that, too. The most recent one had come yesterday (5/21), but I did not see it on the guest book page when I navigated there to check after receiving the email. Perhaps it had already been deleted.

FWIW, I think the troller may be the same as the one who posted this comment, under the name 'Les Jamberson' (obviously riffing on NY911truth's Les Jamieson), on Kevin Ryan's blog back in January 2014:


But obviously, we'd like more to go on than that. I'll keep an eye out.

Here's one

Received another email notification about a comment I supposedly (but not really) left on the guestbook page. This time when I went to check, the troll's comment was still there, under the name 'Slap Happyfield.'

I also saw other trolling comments immediately preceding and following that one (four altogether). Don't know that this is so but, FWIW, it wouldn't surprise me if they were really all from the same person using different monikers.