Open Thread

It's been a interesting few months.

Giuliani was on Fox re: 911 Warnings:

What's on your mind?

Trump is making waves for some reason...

Good find! oh man!

This is a great video.
Personally, I feel like we "win" when they mention those keywords. (e.g. Buidling 7, Bush knew, etc.)

Been an interesting couple of

Been an interesting couple of months. ARUP FEA analysis comes to light contradicting NISTs stated WTC7 hypothesis, and in the reports Guy Nordenson inadvertently disproves the notion that a single point failure (the C79-44 girder) can lead to a progressive collapse of the building. NIST's report just experienced a global collapse.


Can someone link me to Nordenson's original fire paper and the new stuff please?


I'm having a problem with ARUP, Norsden and Bailey. The problem with their computer simulations, is it appears that if you spill a cup of coffee on the 13th floor, all the bolts snap, the beams vanish and the floor collapses, all the way to the ground, pulling the building down around your ears seconds later. Seriously, the floor deformations in the first 10 minutes are scary.

I just can't make my poor little brain follow their logic.

I get that if you got the worlds longest blow torch, and held it against girder 79-44 solidly for 57 minutes, it would do a three dimensional dance, coming completely out of it's restraints, and flapping around like a snake on an electric carpet. I understand that the 6 beams connecting that girder to the outer columns magically turn to spaghetti, and get eaten by the guy holding the blow torch. I guess I can also almost stretch my imagination to the entire NE floor plate falling en mass to the floor below, instead of breaking up.

I'm still not seeing how that one section of floor wipes out all of the other sections all the way to the ground though. I mean it's a reinforced concrete slab, supported by girders, beams and columns right? It was only a local failure of one girder, so falling on the floor/girder below, even if it was weakened by the towering inferno that was raging across the entire Manhattan area at the time (apparently), any single one of the floors below (especially the super steroid taking 5th floor) could have supported both the impact and the weight, right?

Where does the energy come from (please don't say space lasers) to push one floor through all the ones beneath it? Oh, that's right, the same place that 14 floors can move through 96 floors beneath them, how stupid of me, it had already happened earlier that day. Twice.

Are we sure it wasn't space lasers, because if it definitely wasn't fire, or gravity, and explosives have been ruled out so thoroughly that the mere idea is laughable (apparently), then what do we have left?

Please, someone do the math and tell me if my instincts are right here.

UK newspaper covered 9/11 truth last Sunday

There was also quite a major article in the latest edition of Britain's Sunday Express newspaper about Matt Campbell, whose brother died during 9/11 attacks. Campbell is calling for a new inquest into his brother's death. He describes his unhappiness with the official narrative of the 9/11 attacks and mentions the strange collapse of WTC 7, among other things. You can read the article here:

Good article!

The article deserves a separate post entry. This is great to see!


I like seeing this type of subject matter.

Marketing and persuasion. I have an interest in this. CorbettReport has some good videos on it, as does Sean Stone on "EntertheBuzzsaw".

This video was a nice overview of Trump's tactics.
Heuristics in judgment and decision-making. In psychology, heuristics are simple, efficient rules which people often use to form judgments and make decisions. They are mental shortcuts that usually involve focusing on one aspect of a complex problem and ignoring others."

An example of this I see in my encounters with new people on the street about 9/11.
Many people know that there is a 9/11 Cover-up.
Many, many people know.
However, they don't really have the details sorted out...their thoughts on "why" it was an inside job can range all over the place from the Pentagon scenario to thermite to nukes to any number of things. Essentially, they saw something which "clicked" a judgment.
A broad spectrum of these people who are aware of the 9/11 Cover-up have not really studied the details and science and research. They saw something and made that decision. ...and left it at that.

I personally feel like we can use some of these simple marketing tools in the 9/11 Movement.
Example of one tool.
"Repeat the Message"
...another tool...
"Cite Experts" (e.g. Ae911truth, Steven Jones, etc.)
...another tool...
"Be visible" "Everybody knows" "Anyone who is aware knows" "lots of people know" (and lots DO know, but it is not perceived because the individual is timid to discuss the topic)

After all, not everyone is going to perform in-depth research.
But they will form a judgement.
Our mission includes increasing the number of people who are aware of the 9/11 Cover-up. So, simply, this can be accomplished "by telling people what to believe" (as much as I hate to phrase it like that). In other words, we can use these marketing techniques, because they are workable and effective. I say this because many people are not "science minded" nor "research minded" nor "higher order critical thinking skills"...a dumbed down civilization.

re: advertising

I think AE911 has been better at packaging and marketing their message(s). I agree that 9/11 truth could take more tips from the advertising industry and also focus on normalizing 9/11 skepticism. While we don't have to convince everyone of every fact or theory, it should be pretty easy to market the message that it is normal and intelligent to question the official 9/11 story, and that most people do question it. I think that's what we're seeing in media today, is the slow seepage out of small truths, half-truths and some of the unanswered puzzles.

Feb 2016 - San Bernardino - Apple - FBI - John McAfee

Cybersecurity expert John McAfee is running for president in the US as a member of the Libertarian Party. This is an op-ed article he wrote.
"...the US government has ordered Apple to place a back door into its iOS software so the FBI can decrypt information on an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino shooters... ...This is a black day and the beginning of the end of the US as a world power. ....

CNBC interview with John McAfee
Excerpts -

TV's "Billions" on Showtime - 9/11 connection, CEO survives

There is a Showtime TV series called "Billions" which is pretty good. It deals with hedge funds, Wall Street players, etc.

In the TV series drama, there is secrecy surrounding 9/11 and the fact that the lead character of "Billions" survived while his partners and associates died.
For many of us, names like Paul Bremer and "Marsh and McLennan, or Jim Pierce, or even Larry Silverstein come to mind. (Larry Silverstein )
There are also other instances of executive management survival on 9/11 like Cantor Fitzgerald's chief executive Howard W. Lutnick.

"Billions" has a main character "Bobby Axelrod".
Bobby "Axe" Axelrod, an ambitious hedge fund king.
He was the sole survivor of the company during the September 11 attacks, and thus pays for the college tuition of the children of his former colleagues.
He is seen publicly to be extremely charitable and generous, but in reality he is relying on insider trading and other criminal activities as the sources of this enormous wealth and success.

Season 1 (the first 3 or 4 Episodes)
The widow of one of his partners who died on 9/11 resents the fact of the unusual circumstance where Bobby Axelrod survived while everyone else perished. She blatantly expresses her grief and resentment during a meeting. The widow, while very rich, writes a book of her memoirs which exposes this unusual circumstance of Axelrod’s survival from the devastation of the World Trade Center Tower. When Bobby’s wife, Lara Axelrod, catches wind of the manuscript at the Publisher, she uses devious and covert methods to extort the widow into not publishing the incriminating information about Bobby.

Billions | 'Just a Story I Wanted to Tell' Official Clip | Season 1 Episode 3

The following clip gives an overview of the series…

PAUL GIAMATTI comments about the series: "It is as authentic as these guys can make it without getting sued."

Billions | Behind the Scenes: The Insiders | Season 1

9/11 Anthrax Attacks similar to Sheriff Glenn Palmer Attacks

In 2013 Grant County, Oregon Sheriff Glenn Palmer became one of the most visible of a score of sheriffs across the US who stood up against gun control measures proposed by the Obama administration.
Last year he was hospitalized after receiving a letter containing a suspicious substance.

Sibel Edmonds, James Corbett, Spiro Skouras, and others report...

Two FBI Whistleblowers Take on Unresolved Case of Suspicious Letters Targeting Oregon Sheriffs -
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Brussels - Corbett & Sibel discuss False Flag /Alternative Media

James Corbett and Sibel Edmonds talk about the public’s reaction to False Flag events and how both the mainstream and alternative media are being divided and conquered to keep people from questioning the true roots of these events.
13 minute mark -

Interview 1152 – Sibel Edmonds Shines A Light on the Brussels Attacks

Will be doing charitable "inner city" service for a year

My wife and I have been interested in charitable service for many years. Some of you will recall some of my talks regarding 9/11 research - and how I included my invention of the inexpensive Solar Funnel Cooker in several talks.

There was a reason for that, including my hope that the 9/11 truth-seeking community would approach people with kindness and love. (Often this has occurred.)

These inexpensive solar cooking devices have gone to Africa, Bolivia, the Philippines and so on. I have built hundreds of them and then given them away, and I expect to continue to share this invention freely.
My wife served recently as president of a women's organization called the Relief Society and is looking forward to our LDS mission together - as am I.

We have been called to serve in the New Jersey Morristown mission, and our assignment is specifically to serve the people in the Newark "inner city" area. We will be visiting and teaching people, and doing humanitarian service for one year.

Because of this focus, I do not expect to be giving lectures regarding 9/11 research for this year. However, I will take with me the AE911Truth publication "Beyond Misinformation: What Science Says About the Destruction of the World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7."

My wife and I anticipate living for the year about 20 miles from New York City, and expect to visit the city on occasion. It will be quite a change from the small, rural towns we have been used to...

MUST SEE – Stanford Study – Facial Manipulation "live" on media

Joe pointed this out to me...

MUST SEE – Stanford Study –
“Live facial manipulation of people on the media”

Watch George Bush make all kinds of facial expressions...

Voice Morphing: When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing

"Gentlemen! We have called you together to inform you that we are going to overthrow the United States government." So begins a statement being delivered by Gen. Carl W. Steiner, former Commander-in-chief, U.S. Special Operations Command.

At least the voice sounds amazingly like him.

But it is not Steiner. It is the result of voice "morphing" technology developed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.

By taking just a 10-minute digital recording of Steiner's voice, scientist George Papcun is able, in near real time, to clone speech patterns and develop an accurate facsimile. Steiner was so impressed, he asked for a copy of the tape.

Steiner was hardly the first or last victim to be spoofed by Papcun's team members. To refine their method, they took various high quality recordings of generals and experimented with creating fake statements. One of the most memorable is Colin Powell stating "I am being treated well by my captors."

Statements versus Conversations

I agree that statements can be fabricated, but a coherent, convincing, real time conversation is a different animal altogether.

Timing is everything. How long did it take to create the Steiner statement ? Isn't it likely that a conversation would be problematic due to software delay?

When people say the 9/11 phone calls were faked I do not agree. Any that involved more than one person talking would be impossible to pull off.

If I am way off base here, please cite an example where a real time, unscripted, free exchange takes place.

April 2016 - "Conspiracy Theories" survey story - recently published a denigrating story about conspiracy theories which is being picked up by other "online tabloids".
One Chart Reveals the Most Widely Believed Conspiracy Theories in America

Here are the findings:

— 54% think the JFK assassination was a conspiracy

— 44% think Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

— 37% think global warming is a hoax

— 36% think Obama lied about his background

— 29% think aliens exist

— 29% think the Central Intelligence Agency tested LSD on Americans

— 28% think the New World Order is real

— 25% think Bush knew 9/11 would happen

— 23% think Bush committed voter fraud 2004

— 21% think a UFO crashed in New Mexico in 1947

Interesting to note: Brussels in the news & Hastert pedofile

It is interesting to note that also in the news are stories about Brussels and stories about former Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert.

James Corbett and Sibel Edmonds have some great background about the Hastert case.

Prosecutors Detail Alleged Abuse in Hush-Money Case Against Dennis Hastert

- One minute YouTube -

OFF TOPIC - April 12 starts FREE Cancer Truth Series

While this is off topic, I feel I should mention it. I've seen this. Worth watching.

April 12th - Tuesday
Begins a FREE 9 day Docu-Series entitled "The Truth About Cancer" by Ty Bollinger.

(The DVD collection is not cheap, so this is a great opportunity.)

Things heating up late April 2016...

American mainstream media (CBS 60 Minutes) covers the 28 pages... veiled threat to Saudi Arabia.. before Obama goes there to negotiate.

Obama to visit Saudi Arabia for defence talks: US president and defence chief Ash Carter on a two-day trip to the Gulf to talk counterterrorism and regional security threats.

Saudi Arabia threatens to liquidate its Treasury holdings if Congress probes its role in 9/11 attacks

Saudi Arabia wants US to kill 9/11 bill, threatens to dump US assets worth $750 billion.

Then we've got some situation going on with China and Russia that seems to be coming to a head...

Defense Secretary Ash Carter said he will visit a U.S. aircraft carrier transiting the disputed South China Sea on Friday, a move bound to anger China, which has been increasingly asserting its territorial claims.

America's top diplomat condemned a close encounter between Russian fighter jets and a U.S. Navy destroyer, saying his nation's military could have opened fire under the rules of engagement. Secretary of State John Kerry described Russia's action as "reckless and provocative."

Possible cause...

China's Yuan-Based Gold Fix To Include Two International Banks - Two international banks will join the proposed Chinese yuan gold fix, which is expected to be launched in less than a week. The new benchmark is expected to be launched April 19, which two months ago was only a rumor.

Precedence to the problem...

Declassified Emails Reveal NATO Killed Gaddafi to Stop Libyan Creation of Gold-Backed Currency

Man! No kidding. Lots of news.

Thanks for logging these stories.
Something is hot!
I tried to post some stories on "28 pages - 60 Minutes - Bob Graham".

April 29 2016 - Bloomberg News & ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge, an alternative news source, often will contain articles by Kevin Ryan or Washington's Blog.

April 29 2016 - Bloomberg News
Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge, Wall Street's Renegade Blog

ZeroHedge - 4/30/16
The Full Story Behind Bloomberg's Attempt To "Unmask" Zero Hedge