Bob Graham on 60-Minutes

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States,”

28 Pages on CBS 60 Minutes

Sen. Bob Kerrey, 9/11 Commission: "In general the 9/11 Commission did not get every single detail of the conspiracy, we didn't, we didn't have the time, we didn't have the resources" (CBS 60 Minutes interview 4/10/16)

New investigation is key

Good idea to point out the utter inadequacy of the 9/11 investigation by using Commissioner quotes along with physical evidence for a false flag. Maybe the 28 pages publicity can open the door to doing just that?

The 28 pages itself isn't going to deliver justice since any Saudi assistance to alleged hijackers -- or even CIA association with hijackers will simply be spun as an attempt to "develop sources" inside Al-Qaeda. Richard Clarke has already set the stage for this.

"60 Minutes" "28 Pages" - aired April 10th 2016

28 Pages
Former Sen. Bob Graham and others urge the Obama administration to declassify redacted pages of a report that holds 9/11 secrets
FULL "60 Minutes" INTERVIEW VIDEO with Overtime

2 minute report

Is "The 28 Pages" leverage on Saudi Arabia?

"The 28 Pages" has been in and out of the major mainstream news networks. For example: Sept and November 2015 it was mainstream news, then faded away from the limelight until most recently.

APRIL 2016
With declining oil prices being big economic news for months, Bloomberg conducts a 5 hour interview with Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on March 30, 2016.

Outline of Saudi plans - “National Transformation Plan”

Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
Taking Control
Prince Mohammed has consolidated more power than anyone in his position since the founding of the kingdom in 1932. His attempt to shake up the economy comes against the backdrop of mounting domestic security threats and regional turmoil, with the Sunni-ruled kingdom fighting a war in Yemen against Shiite rebels it says are backed by Iran.

As Defense Minister, Prince Mohammed leads the military effort. He also oversees ministries including finance, oil and the economy through the Council for Economic and Development Affairs. The council, which was established after his father became king, also controls the Public Investment Fund.

SAUDI "PUBLIC INVESTMENT FUND" - 2 trillion dollars
The fund will be big enough to buy Apple Inc., Google parent Alphabet Inc., Microsoft Corp. and Berkshire Hathaway Inc. -- the world’s four largest publicly traded companies.

Bloomberg 3 minute video

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April 11, 2016 Saudia Arabia responds to the April 10th "60 Minutes" Report about The 28 Pages

More on the 28pgs

Original source
shared on yahoo.

By Martin Matishak
April 12, 2016

The White House is coming under renewed pressure to declassify 28 pages of a congressional report on the Sept. 11, 2001 hijackings before President Obama leaves office next year.

The debate over the pages, which allegedly indicates that the 19 Saudi Arabian nationals who carried out the deadly attacks received some kind of support from the government in Riyadh, has ebbed and flowed ever since the report was published in 2002.
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The controversy has flared up again ahead of President Obama’s upcoming trip to Saudi Arabia for an April 21 summit with the Gulf Cooperation Council. The meeting with Arab leaders, ostensibly, is a chance for the president to repair relations that have become frayed in the wake of last year’s landmark nuclear deal with Iran.
Most Active Terrorist Groups in Saudi Arabia since 2000 | FindTheData

Some feel Obama should use the visit to declassify the redacted pages and finally put to rest an issue that has dragged on for nearly 15 years. One of the transparency advocates is former Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) who oversaw a congressional investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks that was separate from the independent 9/11 Commission inquiry.

In an interview with 60 Minutes, Graham said that said the hijackers were "substantially" supported by the Saudi government, as well as charities and wealthy people in that country.

"I think it is implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn't speak English, most of whom never had been in the United States before, many of whom didn't have a high school education — could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States," Graham said.

The renewed debate has also sparked interest in Congress. The same day the 60 Minutes segment aired, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) added her name to a roster of lawmakers who want to release the pages.

"I have always advocated for providing as much transparency as possible to the American people consistent with protecting our national security,” Pelosi, who once sat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement.

Of course, if the pages are made available and show a link between the hijackers and Riyadh it could upend the U.S.-Saudi relationship at an already turbulent time in the region. Many Middle East states are worried that Iran is poised to spread its influence to their territory now that it is no longer hemmed in by a phalanx of international sanctions. Indeed, the nuclear deal has prompted many countries to order billions in new weapons as a possible hedge against anticipated Iranian aggression.

Still, Saudi officials have also said the pages should be released. With so many groups clamoring for it, why hasn’t it happened yet? Ultimately, it’s the president’s decision and the administration seems to be in no rush.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said the pace is dictated by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, whose agency reportedly began a review of the documents years ago.

“His office is responsible for these kinds of declassification exercises, and they'll make the necessary decisions about which of the materials and how much of the materials can be declassified,” Earnest said Monday during a briefing. He added that “without having seen those materials, it's hard for me to explain whether it will or why it would” have to wait until the end of Obama’s tenure next January.

Earnest said he wasn’t sure if the president had viewed the pages, and declined to say if Obama would abide by the intelligence community’s review if it determined the documents should be kept secret.

“I know that people often discuss the fact that the president does have the ability to decide on his own what information can be declassified. But obviously there is a place -- a process in place to consider the various points of view about releasing sensitive national security information,” he told reporters.

Of course, there could be an unintended consequence to declassifying the 28 pages. If no direct link between the attacks and Saudi Arabia is found it could unleash a new torrent of government conspiracy theories, like there are still more pages to be unearthed or that the congressional inquiry scrubbed or downplayed connections so as not to upset a long-time U.S. ally.

Conversely, if a connection is made it could impact every aspect of the diplomatic relationship, from military cooperation to gas prices – all factors President Obama is likely considering as he weighs the decision.

Obama in Saudi Arabia April 21st, 2016

From AP on Mar 16th
The White House says Obama will head to Saudi Arabia on April 21 for a summit of the Gulf Cooperation Council. Obama last year hosted leaders from the group of Persian Gulf nations. They'll discuss the fight against the Islamic State group and other Mideast security concerns.

Obama also will visit London, where he'll have lunch with Queen Elizabeth II and meet with Prime Minister David Cameron. Obama has encouraged the United Kingdom to remain in the European Union ahead of a June 23 referendum.

The White House says Obama will attend the trade show Hannover Messe in Germany and meet with Chancellor Angela Merkel.

US issues Saudi Arabia travel warning ahead of Obama visit
...The warning said both Al-Qaeda and the IS are planning attacks in the kingdom, including "house compounds, hotels, restaurants, shopping areas, international schools" and other facilities....

Added after June 3rd, 2016...
FOX NEWS April 25, 2016
Terror suspect whose flight certificate was linked to Saudis one of Gitmo's most dangerous
(VIDEO included)
...Revelations last week that Ghassan Al Sharbi’s flight training certificate, tucked into a Saudi Arabian Embassy envelope, had been found in 2003 among a trove of documents buried in Pakistan following his arrest there, raised fresh questions about the Kingdom’s possible involvement in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks... “Document 17”

Ghassan Al Sharbi also mentioned in this article about Saudi Prince & playboy Abdul Aziz bin Fahd.

A remarkable concurrence of events & circumstances - My 2 cents

Saudi Arabia in the media recently and other factors have me raising eyebrows. A remarkable concurrence of events & circumstances.

On Sunday, April 17th, a huge oil OPEC and non-OPEC meeting is scheduled. Just the rumors and speculation alone about this meeting has had oil prices surge more than 20% in recent weeks, despite fundamentals of an over-supply of oil held in storage facilities along with more current oil production than demand.

April 21st - Obama is in Saudi Arabia.

April 10th - "60 Minutes" aired.

March 30th - The world learns about the Saudi “National Transformation Plan” being pushed through by the younger Saudi generation.

March 22nd - Brussels Bombing

April 12th News Israel gives blessing to Egypt's return of Red Sea islands to Saudi Arabia
...The islands of Tiran and Sanafir, located at the southern entrance to the Gulf of Aqaba, will be formally demarcated as being in Saudi waters under a treaty announced on Saturday by Cairo, which has had de facto control over them since 1950....

Recent unprecedented "negative rates" by foreign central banks and then also the Federal Reserve backs away from its original plan to raise rates.

It is Presidential election year. And one of the oddest election years I have ever seen. "TV Reality Show" style. And a major criminal as a leading candidate. Candidates often promise to deliver the public from a crisis.

My eyebrows are raised. It is as if the stage props are being placed for the next act of the play.

Corbett & Kevin Ryan - "diversion" and "get into Saudi free card


(Feb 15, 2016)TomT asked: James,
In the past even the mainstream media was mentioning the classified “28 Pages” about 9/11. However, currently there does not seem to be many headlines about the “28 Pages”... you see any link between the “28 pages” not now in the headlines and the current oil situation?.
(oil prices had crashed)


STOKE asked: If the 28 pages confirm the Bush administration cover-up... ...what would be the consequences for Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc.?

(5 minutes YouTube excerpt below) Corbett & Kevin Ryan
----- Kevin Ryan: "...what I call a 'Get into Saudi Arabia free card'... ....also kind of a diversion...."-----

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Full Corbett Report video below
(28 pages starts at the 6:25 mark)

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Some Kevin Ryan articles...

Aug 31, 2011 - Playing the “Get into Saudi Arabia free card”.

March 16, 2014 - The 9/11 Joint Congressional Inquiry and 28 Missing Pages

...and Saudi Arabia wanted the 28 pages released back in 2003.

Thanks again to "Platos Cave" for another tuned video clip

9/11, The 28 Pages, The CIA & The Art of the Hangout

Sibel Edmonds | September 8, 2011
...with James Corbett

Sarasota, FL

US Rep basically says the entire war on terror is a fraud

"It is sort of shocking when you read it," Massie said in the press conference. "As I read it, we all had our own experience. I had to stop every couple of pages and absorb and try to rearrange my understanding of history for the past 13 years and the years leading up to that. It challenges you to rethink everything."

Taken at face value the 28 pages mean that all the counterterrorism policies were likely implemented for the real purpose of control and power. For example how does it make any sense to support a torture program while the President who claimed that program was necessary was himself involved in covering for people directly linked to the plot?

The problem with the 28 pages is that they will add a piece of context but so many other pieces remain hidden. And the US media is simply not up to the task of helping the public get a complete understanding of 9/11.

Worshipping @ the Church of fear...

Interesting to think that none of the people who were allowed to read the missing pages has had the sense to reveal exactly what they remember seeing.

Each of their consents to remain muzzled is not an example of a political 'Profile In Courage'.

What are they afraid of at this point ?

Millions of people want to know what's going on.

Actually, this is a perfect test case for a 'Necessity Defense'...wherein a lesser illegal act ( speaking w/o permission ) is excusable if the commission of such an act is 'necessary' to expose, or prevent a more serious crime.

Another avenue might be to insist that EVERY citizen be allowed to read the 28 pages ( after vowing to remain silent , of course) !! We'd all know what everyone else had read, and nobody would need to 'spill the beans '.
There would be long lines for a good long time outside the reading room, but it would be good for the local economy ( Washington, D.C. )

Saudi, Exxon, Chevron, Texaco, Shell, etc. connections

Some of the following is taken from "How Big Oil Conquered the World" 911blogger post.

How Saudi Arabia successfully defended its US oil market share by John Kemp - Reuters market analyst.
Published — Sunday 31 January 2016

"...Saudi Aramco, which handles the marketing of Saudi Arabia’s crude, is the successor to the Arabian American Oil Company, a partnership between Chevron, Texaco, Exxon and Mobil established in the 1930s and 1940s.
Chevron (which later acquired Texaco) and Exxon (which acquired Mobil) remain some of the largest importers of Saudi crude into the US, according to customs records.
In 1988, Saudi Aramco bought a 50 percent stake in Texaco’s refining and marketing operations in the eastern US and on the Gulf Coast, which was named Star Enterprises (“Saudi Arabia, Texaco join forces” Los Angeles Times, 1988).
In 1997, Royal Dutch Shell joined the joint venture, subsequently renamed Motiva. When Chevron merged with Texaco in 2001, Texaco’s interest in the combined refining and marketing operations was sold to Shell and Saudi Aramco and reorganized as a 50:50 joint venture between them.
Motiva operates three large refineries in Louisiana and Texas (Convent, Norco and Port Arthur) with a combined refining capacity of 1.1 million bpd.
Motiva also as a network of refined product storage terminals across the eastern US ...."

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Largest United States Refinery Now Belongs to Saudi Arabia March 17, 2016

...Royal Dutch Shell and Saudi Aramco appear to be getting a divorce, breaking up their joint venture in U.S.-based refining assets... ... ...The split will hand the largest U.S. refinery to the state-owned Saudi oil company. ....

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Saudi Aramco to target US refiners, chemical plants after Shell breakup CNBC - March 19, 2016

Saudi Arabia's national oil company wants to buy more U.S. refining and chemical plants to expand its footprint in the world's largest energy market once the break-up of its joint venture with Royal Dutch Shell is complete, sources said. ....

April 15 - NY Times - Saudi warns United States - 3/4 Trillion

Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill
The New York Times - April 15, 2016

Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the bill’s passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties, and the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon. The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation.

Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the kingdom’s message personally last month during a trip to Washington, telling lawmakers that Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts.

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April 15 - Saudi Arabia Moves to Curb Religious Police

Saudi Arabia Moves to Curb Its Feared Religious Police
The New York Times - April 15

Saudi Arabia announced steps this week to rein in its religious police, which is responsible for ensuring morality, piety and adherence with Islamic law but has become the target of mounting criticism in recent years.

The most significant change states that members of the religious police are to work only during office hours, and that they do not have the right to pursue, arrest or detain members of the public. They are, instead, directed to report violations of Islamic law to the civil police.

In addition, the government directed the religious police to be “gentle and kind” in its conduct, following the example of the Prophet Muhammad....

April 15 -Ottawa releases report on human rights in Saudi Arabia

Ottawa releases redacted report on human rights in Saudi Arabia
Release comes amid criticism over Saudi arms deal
CBC Canadian News - April 15, 2016

The Canadian government has released a redacted version of its 2015 human rights report on Saudi Arabia, bowing to demands from opposition MPs and other critics calling for more transparency about a controversial arms deal with the kingdom.

The release of unclassified portions of the 22-page report comes two days after the U.S. State Department made public its own report on the state of human rights in Saudi Arabia.

The Liberal government has come under heavy criticism for defending "as a matter of principle" Canada's $15-billion sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia... ... ...The report is undated, but provides Dion with an "update" following the Jan. 2 execution by Saudi authorities of 47 individuals convicted of terrorism-related offences....

April 15 - Egypt Saudi Arabia: Protests over Island Deal

Egypt Saudi Arabia: Police fire tear gas at protests over island deal
BBC - April 15, 2016

Police have fired tear gas at crowds in the Egyptian capital Cairo at a protest against a controversial deal to hand two islands to Saudi Arabia... ... ...Mr Sisi has faced heavy criticism over his executive decision to give away the Red Sea islands, during a visit by Saudi Arabia's King Salman.

The uninhabited islands have been under Egyptian control since 1950....

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Building Bridges Between Egypt and Saudi Arabia
Stratfor - April 15, 2016

...The bridge proposal on April 8 garnered a lot of media attention, but this is not the first time a grand plan to connect Saudi Arabia and Egypt has been floated. During a 1988 summit, Saudi King Fahd and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak announced plans to build such a span, and in 2012, Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi revived the idea, but neither proposal progressed to actual construction....

April 15 - NY Times revisits Saudi - Malaysian 681 million

Path of $681 Million: From Saudi Arabia to Malaysian Premier’s Personal Account
The New York Times - April 15, 2016

How did $681 million end up being deposited in the personal bank account of Malaysia’s prime minister, Najib Razak, last year?

Not in any corrupt way, officials insist.

Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister said on Thursday that an unspecified Saudi source had given a large sum of money as a “genuine donation” with no obligations attached. He joined top Malaysian leaders in waving away any suggestion of scandal....

Added after June 3, 2016...
June 4, 2016 "Nailed on the Cross" ...cut a deal with the FBI...
Malaysia Chronicle
"1MDB BOMBSHELL(Malaysia's Sovereign Wealth Fund): Jho Low CUTS DEAL WITH US FBI ..."

Jho Low - wikipedia

"Wolf of Wall Street" (Jho Low was a producer) - Goldman Sachs
February 28, 2016 - New York Post
...Federal investigators are probing what could end up being “one of the largest money-laundering frauds in the world,” a source told The Post....
...Goldman Sachs benefited greatly. There were three bond sales for 1MDB in 2012-13 totaling about $6.5 billion, reportedly yielding fees, commissions and expenses for Goldman of almost $593 million — about 9.1 percent. The typical cut for an investment bank is about 5 percent....

MSN NEWS - July 2015 Jho Low & PetroSaudi
How Jho Low & PetroSaudi schemed to steal money from the people of Malaysia via 1Mdb
...Our report is based on evidence corroborated by documents that include bank transfers and statements. There is no space to publish everything and, indeed, some material cannot be published. We will now be handing over these printed documents and the hard disk that contains them to the investigators. We will assist the investigators in any way we can to get to the bottom of what had happened.... This article first appeared in "The Edge Financial Daily", on July 20, 2015.

March 2016 - Malaysia Chronicle$-1bil-for-najib-us$-700mil-for-jho-low?-the-petro-saudi-files-fact-or-fraud#axzz4Ac9wurQT

July 2015 Reuters
...Xavier Justo, a former executive of PetroSaudi International Ltd, was arrested on a Thai resort island last month following allegations by the company that he had demanded a payment in exchange for not disclosing confidential information...

PetroSaudi website

PYRAMID HOUSE of Beverly Hills (Golden Pyramid within house)
May 12, 2016 -
...It may be fitting, then, that the Beverly Hills home of Riza Aziz—the stepson of Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak—has a weird (and seemingly pointless) pyramid replica sitting in the front room. Or, at least it did back in 2010, when Aziz purchased the $17.5-million property allegedly using money funneled out of an account meant to benefit the Malaysian public....

January 2013
Rumor: Is Saudi Prince Overhauling Bev Hills Pyramid House?
...Abdul Aziz bin Fahd, the youngest son of the late King Fahd and an oft-declared "playboy," owns the crazy pyramid house on Hillcrest Road in Beverly Hills....

Abdul Aziz bin Fahd wikipedia

Abdul Aziz Bin Fahd Al Saud Official "House of Saud" website

April 27, 2016 "Daily Mail" article about Abdul Aziz bin Fahd

July 2015 - The Guardian
... Prince Abdulaziz bin Fahd, above, has had a criminal complaint filed against him by his cousin Prince Sultan bin Turki for kidnapping...
Senior Saudi prince accuses cousin over alleged drugging and abduction

Trump on CNN - 9/11, Iraq, GW Bush, 28 Pages

February 2016 - CNN Town Hall
(CNN presses Trump: "Did George W Bush lie about Iraq?")
(Thanks Joe for the clip)

Two questions

Assuming the 28 pages implicate Saudi Arabia...What will happen to those who chose to redact the 28 pages? There must be consequences.

What keeps the Saudis from ratting out the other individuals and entities who must have also been involved? WTC 7...the stand down..etc..

No telling Rob. I am not in that Club.

Joe made a good point at our Group Meeting...
"The 9/11 Commission Report was written to create a myth. A lot of information was completely left out of the Report and trashed. You gotta wonder why Philip Zelikow would write the "28 Pages" into the report in the first place...and then leave it around as a classified document."

It is like what Mark Walhberg tells his dog in "The Shooter" with The 9/11 Commission Report lying on the table.
"Let's see what lies they are trying to sell us today."

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Say Rob,
We are gonna have our "North Texans for 9/11 Truth" Group's 10 year anniversary on April 28th. Hope you can get off work. With the greasy food and bad coffee at Barbec's, be sure to bring enough Rolaids for all of us.

Still not true

Joe made a good point at our Group Meeting...
"The 9/11 Commission Report was written to create a myth. A lot of information was completely left out of the Report and trashed. You gotta wonder why Philip Zelikow would write the "28 Pages" into the report in the first place...and then leave it around as a classified document."

No Matter how many times you say it it still isn't true.

"You gotta wonder why Philip Zelikow wrote the "28 pages" into the narrative in the first place."
Joe on Sun, 08/23/2015 - 6:02am.

"PZ had nothing to do with writing the 28 pages"
jimd3100 on Tue, 09/08/2015 - 4:42pm.

Evidently Zelikow isn't the only one making up myths to sell a story.

Your Welcome

I appreciate that you looked into it.

Jimd, hello. Best to

Jimd, hello. Best to you.

Hardly a more ironic name for a group than 9/11 truth huh?

Tom, have you read "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger?

Long Time

Glad to see that the Illuminati haven't got you yet. Or have they??

"House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger - I Agree, excellent recommendation

well, they served good food so

I kicked it with them for a little, but when Hillary and Alex Jones came back from their date - the party was over.


Keep your comments relevant to the blog entry. Post useful (sourced) information and commentary

PRESS TV - The Debate –Saudi Role in 9/11 (April 13th)

(Thanks to Joe who found this)
The Debate –Saudi Role in 9/11 (April 13th)

The interview on PRESS TV mentions "The Atlantic". In mid March, a series of articles surrounding an interview with Obama came out.

LINK (to a long read)

On Saudi Arabia’s role in the Middle East:
“The competition between the Saudis and the Iranians—which has helped to feed proxy wars and chaos in Syria and Iraq and Yemen—requires us to say to our friends as well as to the Iranians that they need to find an effective way to share the neighborhood and institute some sort of cold peace.”—President Obama

Adam Kokesh on the 28 Pages

Doha Talks & Mohammed bin Salman (aka MbS by foreigners

Following Doha’s Major Oil Meeting of Sunday April 17…

Collapse of Doha talks highlights the rise of Mohammed bin Salman April 18

…MbS (Mohammed bin Salman), however, told Bloomberg last week — in an interview published on Saturday — that there would be no deal unless all major producers, including Iran, were on board. In Tehran, the government has never wavered in its position that it would not join a freeze… …speculation about what happened in Doha — from a draft agreement in the morning to a collapse in talks in the evening…
…The oil minister is as loath as the prince to give Tehran a free ticket back to the market… Iran is Saudi Arabia’s major rival in the Gulf, and confronting Tehran is the political priority….

Saudi-Iran tensions scupper deal to freeze oil output April 18 Reuters
… After five hours of fierce debate about the wording of a communique - including between Saudi Arabia and Russia - delegates and ministers announced no deal had been reached….
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April 18
Meet the 30-year-old prince emerging as oil market’s ‘ultimate disrupter’

The crude-oil market may have a new boss… … …But the way the Sunday(April 17) talks collapsed is underlining notions of a significant shift, with Saudi Arabia’s 30-year-old deputy crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, playing a dominant role in setting policy for the world’s largest oil exporter…

deemed Prince Mohammed the “ultimate disrupter.”… The royal’s stance put Saudi Arabia at odds with its key Gulf allies, such as Qatar and Kuwait, “which normally stand shoulder to shoulder with the Kingdom on oil policy,” …

”…It seems this new crew of princes are more aggressive, more abrupt, less interested in oil politics and more interested in sending a message to their enemies,”…

…In other words, Prince Mohammed isn’t the same as the old boss. And the rest of the world will need to adjust accordingly.

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Deputy Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman aboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, 7 July 2015


New Crown Prince and new Deputy Crown Prince
In April 2015 King Salman appointed a nephew as new heir-presumptive and made his young son second in line to rule. By making Interior Minister Muhammad bin Nayef, 55, crown prince and Defence Minister Mohammed bin Salman, 30, deputy crown prince, King Salman has effectively decided the line of succession for decades to come in the world's top oil exporter. The announcement means the kingship will pass to a new generation for the first time since 1953… …Almost all powers under the king are now concentrated in the hands of the pair, who each chair committees determining all security and economic development issues in Saudi Arabia, and have led Riyadh's month-old campaign of air strikes in Yemen. In another big shift, Salman replaced veteran Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal, who had served in the role since October 1975, with the kingdom's Washington ambassador Adel al-Jubeir, the first non-royal to hold the post.

Prince Mohammad with United States Secretary of State John Kerry, 7 May 2015

Prince Mohammad with Russian President Vladimir Putin, 18 June 2015

United States Defense Secretary Ash Carter welcomes bin Salman Al Saud to the Pentagon, 13 May 2015

Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud - WIKIWAND
…In October 2011, The Crown Prince, Sultan bin Abdulaziz, died, and the current King Salman began his ascent to power by becoming Deputy Crown Prince and Defense Minister in November 2011 and making Mohammad bin Salman his private advisor…
…In June 2012, the Crown Prince, Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, died and Prince Mohammad moved up into the number two position in the hierarchy…
…On 23 January 2015, King Abdullah died, Salman took the throne and Prince Mohammad was appointed “minister of defense”…also named as the “secretary general of the Royal Court”…(and) the minister of the state… …was named the chair of the newly established “Council for Economic and Development Affairs”… … …In April 2015… Prince Mohammed as “deputy crown prince”…

…The first major event in his tenure as defense minister was “Operation Decisive Storm”, part of the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen, an operation against Houthi rebels in Yemen, experiencing the 2015 Yemeni Civil War….
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Misk Twitter forum logs KSA in media revolution

RIYADH: In the presence of Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the “Tweeps 2016” forum was organized by the Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Foundation (MISK) on Monday.

The major session was allocated for five ministers from GCC countries, who spoke about the impact of social media, notably Twitter, on relations between officials and citizens… … …sought to develop the country’s youth at all levels. This is particularly important because they represent 60 percent of the Kingdom’s population….

The information below was added following May 18, 2016

One year ago...
King Salman’s palace coup and the Saudi royal politics
(15 minutes)

April 26, 2016 - BLOOMBERG (3 minutes)
Why This Saudi Prince Is Known as 'Mr. Everything'

A Saudi Coup occurred in 1964 when the ruling brother, King Saud (first son of Ibn Saud) was exiled to Greece with the second son, Prince Faisal taking control. King Saud had 52 sons and 54 daughters.
(11 minute mark)

Official Saudi website – Royal Family

This commenter sums up aspects of the SAUDI COUP.
“The founder of Saudi Arabia pretty much married a wife from every tribal faction then had a lot of sons, those sons had a lot of sons. By marrying into so many tribes it helped give legitimacy to the rule of a now united Arab peninsula. Here is the kicker most the high ranking government positions are given to members of the royal family. So there is a lot of jocking for power and how these positions are given out. In a certain sense if you can flood an area of government with lower ranking family members it can help give your section of family some dominance and political power for getting the big spots. Saudi Arabia royal politics are like Game of Thrones….”

Of an interesting note, there are thousands of descendants in the Royal Family. A lot of Princes! Wikipedia places the number of Princes at 7,000, but the top 200 wield the most power. Some estimates place the extended Royal Family at over 20,000, maybe as high as 30,000. When one Prince fathers more than a hundred children, the offspring math can get intense.
Monthly stipends are given to those in the Royal Family.
Examples – “…the royal stipends in the mid-1990s ran from about $800 a month for “the lowliest member of the most remote branch of the family” to $200,000-$270,000 a month for one of the surviving sons of Abdul-Aziz Ibn Saud, the founder of modern Saudi Arabia…”
“…Grandchildren received around $27,000 a month… …Great-grandchildren received about $13,000 and great-great- grandchildren $8,000 a month….”
And of note “…Then there was the apparently common practice for royals to borrow money from commercial banks and simply not repay their loans….”
FACTIONS within the Royal Family
~Long term political and government appointments have resulted in the creation of "power fiefdoms" for senior princes.
~The royal family is politically divided by factions based on clan loyalties, personal ambitions and ideological differences.
The most powerful clan faction is known as the 'Sudairi Seven', comprising the late King Fahd and his full brothers and their descendants.
~Ideological divisions include issues over the speed and direction of reform, and whether the role of the ulema (a body of Muslim scholars recognized as having specialist knowledge of Islamic sacred law and theology) should be increased or reduced.
~There were divisions within the family over who should succeed to the throne after the accession or earlier death of a Prince or King.

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Great journalism by Catherine Shakdam February 24, 2015 - (Also Sevil Mikayilova of AzerNews)

Saudi Royal Infighting Threatens US Standing In The Middle East
A peaceful transition of power is quickly devolving into fierce infighting as members of the extended House of Saud jockey for power. These squabbles could have major ramifications beyond Saudi borders, even impacting U.S. foreign policy in the region.

...“Although the very thorny matter of royal succession was pre-emptively handled by late King Abdullah through the appointment of a crown prince [Prince Salman] and a deputy crown prince [Prince Muqrin], Saudi Arabia’s court is alight with fiercely competitive and opposing ambitions,” Mikayilova told MintPress News...

...“Inner tension and political maneuverings are what stand to implode Saudi Arabia and ultimately force Western powers, most predominantly the United States, to reposition themselves in the region through new alliances,” she added... (( Sevil Mikayilova is an expert on Middle Eastern and Central Asian affairs and editor in chief of AzerNews, an Azerbaijani media outlet. ))

...“If Washington was rather pleased to hear that King Salman’s first order of business was to elect his full nephew, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, to deputy crown prince and minister of interior, thus opening the corridors of power to the next generation of royals, U.S. officials have remained blind to the dangerous storm which is brewing in Riyadh over the Sudairi coup,” Ahmed said... (( Ahmed Mohamed Nasser Ahmed, a Yemeni political analyst. ))

...Like his father (Nayef) before him, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef has become a formidable power within the royal family. The son of one of the Sudairi Seven, he carries with him the legacy of one of Al Saud’s most powerful factions....
NOTE - Prince Mohammed bin Nayef is not currently the Prince with the most power.
NBC NEWS - January 23, 2016
Royal Pains: Two Princes Vie for Power in Saudi Arabia, Make a Mess


...A rivalry between two princes may explain Saudi Arabia's sudden eagerness to pick fights at home and abroad, as the two men spark one international disaster after another while vying for the kingdom's throne...

...The struggle between Crown Prince Muhammad bin Nayef and Prince Mohammad bin Salman has all the elements of Elizabethan drama, including strange alliances, ambitious courtiers - and an ailing, ancient king who may be mentally incompetent. Diplomatic sources and U.S. officials believe 80-year-old King Salman, with whom Secretary of State John Kerry is scheduled to meet in Riyadh this weekend, shows signs of dementia...

...The princes who would take his place may be first cousins, but they're polar opposites. "MBN," as Crown Prince Muhammad bin Nayef is known, is 55 and a trusted U.S. ally. The interior minister and crown prince rose to power on his slow, steady success as head of the Saudi counterterrorism program, where he became a favorite of the CIA. He was sometimes also known as the Prince of Darkness because of his rank, his job in intelligence, and his night-owl habits...

..."MBS," Mohammad bin Salman, is King Salman's son. Just 29, he's the defense minister and a savvy publicity hound who shot to prominence in 2015 as the architect of Saudi Arabia's war against Yemen's Houthi rebels .
"Bin Salman is a pop idol," notes Riedel, who is now at the Brookings Institution. "His picture is all over Saudi social media, on television, on billboards. There are pop music songs about him!"
Bin Salman's trips to Russia, France and the U.S. were heavily covered in Saudi papers and burnished his image with the huge chunk of the kingdom's population that is under 30. "They can see themselves in him," said Riedel. "The system didn't normally operate that way." ...

...The public applauded the young prince's aggressive stance in Yemen. "To them, Saudi had never been so bold," said a Saudi journalist who wished to remain anonymous.. "The Yemen operation had finally upped the ante for Saudis. Saudi Arabia didn't need any more nurse maids. He represented them, he was in touch with them.

The U.S. is less enthusiastic. Though he has compared himself to Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher, bin Salman is not as enamored with the West as his older rival.

Foreign intelligence services also question his decision-making. In December, the BND, Germany's intelligence agency, publicly released an extraordinary and scathing analysis of bin Salman, saying he is behind the kingdom's "impulsive policy of intervention." The minister of defense, the paper stated, "harbors a latent risk that in seeking to establish himself in the line of succession in his father's lifetime, he may overreach."

Bin Nayef is favored --it's hardly an exaggeration to say beloved -- by the United States. More than one U.S. official has privately said bin Nayef is the man the U.S. wants to be king.....

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INTERACTIVE link and FRONTLINE PBS article about the Saudi Royals

— On a sidenote:
Prince Alwaleed who came to Rudy Giuliani just after 9/11/01.
“…Waleed is also Citigroup’s largest individual shareholder, the second-largest voting shareholder in 21st Century Fox, and owns Paris’ Four Seasons Hotel George V and part of the Plaza Hotel… owns more than 3% of Twitter…” and more.
NOTE - Twitter is extremely popular in Saudi Arabia.

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Only 41 per cent of the working-age population currently is employed.
Saudi Arabia has a population of about 20 million, with an additional large migrant workforce of around 9 million.

Saudi nationals are employed by the state at above-market “reservation” wages. Roughly 3.4 million Saudis currently work in public administration and the security forces, at wages 2-4 times those in the private sector. The private sector is reluctant to hire nationals.

More than 200,000 young people enter the labour market annually. Saudi Arabia's population is also quite young with over half the population under 30 years old.

Recently, the Kingdom issued its "Vision 2030" plan for ensuring sustainable long-term growth and prosperity with the goal of turning the Kingdom into the world’s 15th largest economy over the next two decades — an economy characterized by its skilled labour force, open markets, and good governance.

Those who do work are employed largely by overstaffed public agencies. This is the Saudi economy’s largest inefficiency, and addressing it will be more difficult than addressing any other.

Vision 2030 is aimed at overhauling the structure of its economy. The plan would reduce historical high dependence on oil by transforming how the kingdom generates income, as well as how it spends and manages its vast resources providing more economic diversity along with redefining its workforce and the structures of its society.

(see above Twitter graphic and also Prince Alwaleed, the billionaire who owns a percentage of Twitter)

The participation of tens of thousands of young Saudis in a social media debate over plans to reform the kingdom's oil-reliant economy last month marked a shift in how Riyadh's conservative rulers interact with their subjects. Saudi Arabia's dynastic leaders, who rule by fiat and strictly limit public dissent, have historically courted public opinion only via informal councils with tribal, religious and business leaders or citizens seeking to petition them.

In a country in which debate has traditionally been strictly regulated by state decree and cultural tradition, and in which gender mixing is often illegal, social media has allowed many young Saudis to interact in ways that were impossible before.

The extent of corruption has been described as systemic and endemic.
Nepotism and patronage are widespread when doing business in the country. The enforcement of the anti-corruption laws is selective and public officials engage in corruption with impunity.

Also, the public are holding people in position more accountable for things that are being done or not.
--In April 2014, as a deadly outbreak of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) swept Jeddah, anger over a perceived cover-up surged on social media and Abdullah sacked the health minister.

--Since King Salman came to power in January 2015, such sensitivity seems to have only amplified. Another health minister, Ahmed al-Khateeb, widely regarded as a protege of the king, was dismissed after footage of him shouting at a Saudi citizen during a heated argument was captured on a smartphone.

--Weeks later, Salman replaced his own head of royal protocol after he was caught on camera slapping a news cameraman covering the arrival of the Moroccan king in Riyadh.

It is a far cry from the days before widespread internet use in Saudi Arabia, when discussion was limited to informal meetings or to newspapers and television channels that rarely held officials to account or criticised government policies.


The controlled mainstream media, after several months of silence, again showcased “The 28 Pages” on April 10th, 2016 in a “60 Minutes” special report.

I feel that the controlled mainstream media is not being altruistic about the 9/11 Cover-up, but rather another agenda is in the works when it periodically mentions “The 28 Pages”.

If the mainstream media really was concerned about the 9/11 Cover-up and altruistic investigative journalism, they certainly would report a much better story which would have higher audience ratings by covering the evidence collected at “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth”.

Besides the media for that matter, how come most other politicians including Bob Graham, Porter Goss, Nancy Pelosi, et al. ignore “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth”.

I feel an agenda is in the works.

Logging different events and news stories at 911blogger may give us insight as to any hidden agenda for this periodic showcasing over the years of “The 28 Pages”.

whats your agenda?

Saudi complicity is a hallmark of 9/11 family questions, along with plenty of warnings and many other important facts.

You say you "aren't in that camp," so what camp are you if not supportive of Laurie van Aukin and others?

When Jimd said " apparently Phillip Zelikow isn't the only one making stuff up to sell stories" in regard to your comments, that was not a "correction" as you put it. That was a statement.

Saudi complicity is national news, wish you gave a crap after 15 years.


You ask why "politicians like Bob G..ignore ae911."

A better question is why AE911 does not support Bob G or other politicians trying to learn more of 9/11.

Not a link at ae911 regarding current national news of 9/11.

And you ask of agendas? Who's covering up what?

And if AE has an answer to the question of why no support, take that answer and apply it to your question. Simple.

Go ahead. Believe Bob Graham & the media are altruistic.

Ha!! You are funny when you strain so hard at trying to make others wrong. I laugh when you tirade because my opinion is different than yours.

It's still America. So you are free to have your opinion and I am free to have my opinion. You are even free to be a jerk towards me when I don't share your opinion.

You can believe that Bob Graham and "60 Minutes" and the mainstream media and Barack Obama are wholeheartedly interested in exposing all the lies surrounding 9/11.
Hillary Clinton will love you. Maybe you two can date.

Just for the record

Threatening someone with Hillary Clinton's love, and a date with her?

That's quite an insult!

I just want it on the record, that anything I post in no way is meant to try and get me a date with Hillary.

That's great! Hilarious. Love the humor!

I appreciate you keeping things light on 911blogger.

With 9/11, we are dealing with an intense tragedy which has led us into dark events. The topic is stressful enough.

Conversation and the posting of information should have an air of commonality, compassion and friendship.
Every individual has their own take on 9/11. We have all seen the vast array of viewpoints.
But most of us on this planet desire to see better conditions, more peaceful and prosperous times.

Humor, understanding, and a "light touch" help to achieve better conditions.

Speaking of Humor

I'm supposed to take this stuff seriously?

White House Press Briefing by Josh Earnest and Ben Rhodes, April 21, 2016

"I will say that the joint inquiry report and those 28 pages and all the other materials that were developed in those initial months after 9/11 — all of that fed into the 9/11 Commission’s work."

Yea. I'm sure they looked real hard at it.

"And again, the question at issue in the 28 pages has to do with material that was drawn upon in all those subsequent investigations, notably the 9/11 Commission, which was very transparent in its findings."

Their work is so transparent that the Co-Chairman Lee Hamilton said.....

“I’m embarrassed that they’re not declassified,“ former Rep. Lee Hamilton (D-Ind) said at a press conference with his co-chair Tom Kean, the former Republican governor of New Jersey. “I assumed all along that our records would be public—all of them, everything. And when I learned that a number of documents were classified or were even redacted, I was surprised and disappointed. I am embarrassed to be associated with a work product that is secret.”

"..9/11 Commission, which was very transparent in its findings."

LOL! that what the 9-11 Commission Co-Chairman meant by being surprised, embarrassed, and disappointed?

"MR. RHODES: Again, the President is familiar with their contents. I, in a previous life, obviously, worked with the 9/11 Commission, so I’m very familiar with their contents. And again, what they provided was I think important information, preliminary information as a part of the joint inquiries report that then was followed up on by the 9/11 Commission, which did subsequent interviews, investigations, and published its finding in the 9/11 report."

"which did subsequent interviews, investigations, and published its finding in the 9/11 report."

Yea, what they didn't publish in their report, about their interviews was......

Osama Basnan....
"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."

Fahad al Thumairy:
"Our general impression of Thumairy is that he was deceptive during both interviews." Page 2/9

Saud al-Rasheed:
"We believe that al-Rasheed was being deceptive. His our impression that he has had enough time to develop a coherent story and is sticking to it (and that he even may have been coached at some point)." Page 6/9

Prince Bandar's interview is still classified....

Again, the fact that they lied to the commission through out their interviews was NOT in the 9-11 report. But by golly they were interviewed.

"And you know, I’m quite confident that the 9/11 Commission spent a good amount of time wrestling with what was in those 28 pages and making sure that they were following threads and leads that may have been present in those pages, and that ultimately — was able to lay that out in the report and I think address some of those questions

"I’m quite confident that the 9/11 Commission spent a good amount of time wrestling with what was in those 28 pages and making sure that they were following threads and leads"......

He's confident of that huh? Let's see what The Co-Chairman of the 9-11 Commission report thought of the 28 pages as he investigated them.........

"Hamilton told Newsweek that he did not favor declassification of the 28 pages from the congressional investigation, just his own 9/11 Commission report. “I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said in a telephone interview."

I wonder why? Was he shocked at what he read?

He added that he had "never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it….

LOL!!!! WTF?!!? OK so "he had "never read" that section of the other probe", and “I don’t know what’s in it".

Well. I guess no one else should read them either then. Because he doesn't want us to..... just because.

"MR. RHODES: I’m quite confident that the 9/11 Commission spent a good amount of time wrestling with what was in those 28 pages

Mr Hamilton does what he's told. Right Mr Hamilton?

"No one ever came to me and said you ought to read these pages.” (He later amended that to say, “I can’t say I’ve never read them; I have no recollection of having read them.”)

Well....uh....if someone did come to you....and said you really ought to read those about then? I heard they were kind of interesting, any interest in reading them at all Mr Co-Chairman of the 9-11 Commission?.....

“I haven't asked. I don’t think I would,” he said.

But no one else should read them either then right?

"Hamilton told Newsweek that he did not favor declassification of the 28 pages from the congressional investigation, just his own 9/11 Commission report. “I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said in a telephone interview."

I assume your reason for classification then would be for the American people to stay as uninformed as you.

He added that he had "never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it….

This guy has been ripping off the American Taxpayer for years.

"The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission), is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks"

Another Presidential Medal of Freedom Award winner

"Thursday, January 7, 2016

"In a White House ceremony Nov. 24, Lee Hamilton was one of 17 Americans to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor."

What a joke

Mr Hamilton, time for your nap. We'll let you know when you're needed.

Ha! ...speaking of Hillary! & the 28 Pages & Saudi...

See below
April 20 - EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton Campaign Bundler Is Directly Lobbying For Saudi Arabia


"Hillary Clinton will love you. Maybe you two can date."

Keep your comments relevant to the blog entry. Post useful (sourced) information and commentary, not ad-hominem attacks or insults.

Sorry. Spot on Mods. I slipped up. Thanks for the warning.

I agree 100% with this very important policy of "no ad-hominem attacks or insults".

April 20 - Hillary Clinton Campaign --Lobbying For Saudi Arabia

(This is worth the read! --TomT )

EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton Campaign Bundler Is Directly Lobbying For Saudi Arabia The Daily Caller - April 20, 2016

A major Hillary Clinton campaign funder is personally lobbying on behalf of an arm of the Saudi government, federal records show.

It’s been known for months that the Center for Studies and Media Affairs at the Saudi Royal Court, an arm of the Saudi regime, has been paying the Podesta Group to lobby lawmakers and federal agencies on its behalf. The Intercept reported the relationship last year. And The Hill reported on Tuesday that the Saudi government was paying the Beltway lobbyist $140,000 a month for its services.

But documents recently published by the Department of Justice under the Foreign Agents Registration Act show that Clinton campaign financier Anthony Podesta is one of the several lobbyists at his firm personally handling the Saudi account.

The 72-year-old is one of the Clinton campaign’s most prolific bundlers, though it would be hard to tell just from the lobbyist disclosure report he’s required to file. The document, filed on March 11, shows Podesta gave $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and $2,700 to New York Rep. Gregory Meeks .

But the lobbyist-rainmaker has bundled a much larger sum of cash from among his circle of wealthy friends and business associates. Campaign finance disclosures show he raised $35,560 for Clinton in the first quarter of 2016. That’s on top of the $130,900 he raised for the campaign last year.

Podesta also has family ties to the Clinton campaign. His brother John is Clinton’s campaign chairman. He served as Bill Clinton’s chief of staff for a time in the 1990s and as an adviser to President Obama. The Podesta brothers started their eponymous lobbying outfit in 1988.

The Saudi Royal Court’s contact with the Podesta Group is part of a sprawling effort to prevent passage of a law that would allow victims of terrorism to sue foreign governments which have aided and abetted terrorists.

A recent “60 Minutes” report has renewed interest in claims that classified documents contained in the 9/11 Commission report show that Saudi government officials had ties to some of the 9/11 hijackers. Fifteen of the 19 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia.

According to The Hill, the oil-rich nation, which is considered an ally of the U.S., doled out $9.4 million in all of 2015 to prevent passage of the bill, which is co-sponsored in the Senate by New York Sen. Chuck Schumer and Texas Sen. John Cornyn , a Democrat and Republican, respectively.

As The Intercept noted in an article last month, the Podesta Group has helped the Saudis manage public relations during other high-profile cases.

Following the execution in January of Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, the firm put The New York Times in touch with a Saudi commentator named Salman al-Ansari who claimed that the Shi’ite cleric was a terrorist. Nimr was a vocal critic of the Saudi royal family and had called for free elections there.

The Times report reads:

“We are speaking of a terrorist person,” said Salman al-Ansari, a Saudi commentator provided by the Podesta Group, a public relations firm working for the Saudi government.

Mr. Ansari accused Sheikh Nimr, who was in his mid-50s, of organizing a “terrorist network” in Shiite areas in eastern Saudi Arabia and compared him to a Qaeda ideologue who sanctioned the killing of security forces.

The Saudis have hired several other firms besides the Podesta Group, including BGR Group, DLA Piper, Hogan Lovells, and Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman. They have also threatened to use the power of the purse to quash the 9/11 bill. The royal family has reportedly told U.S. officials that it will sell off $750 billion in U.S. Treasuries if the law is passed. The Obama administration has said it opposes such a bill because it will open Americans up to legal problems overseas.

While Clinton has said she supports Schumer’s bill she has not made its passage a priority on the campaign trail, even as she’s been campaigning in New York, where the 9/11 terrorists slammed airplanes into the World Trade Center.

During an interview with her friend George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “The Week” on Sunday Clinton said that she did not know anything about Schumer’s legislation. But after some quick criticism, her campaign scrambled to release a statement saying that she did back the measure.

On Monday while campaigning with Schumer, Clinton said she supported the bill. But she was less clear on whether she believes that the Obama administration should declassify the 28 pages contained in the 9/11 report that reportedly show links between the hijackers and the Saudi government.

“I think the administration should take a hard look at them and determine whether that should be done consistent with national security,” Clinton said. (RELATED: Hillary Clinton Softens Position On Declassifying 28 Pages In 9/11 Report)

That’s a not-so-subtle shift from 2003 when, as a New York senator, Clinton signed a letter with other senators demanding that President George W. Bush declassify the pages.

Clinton has other financial ties to the Saudis. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has donated between $10 million and $25 million to Clinton’s family charity, the Clinton Foundation. Another group called Friends of Saudi Arabia has given the Clinton Foundation between $1 million and $5 million. And two members of the Saudi royal family have given a total of between $200,000 and $500,000 to the organization.

Why do care about the Saudis

Why do care about the Saudis now?

And really, a link is fine enough, you clog up all these posts by posting 16 different full articles, its ugly, and really hard to navigate through the comments.When you post 1000 words for a comment and 3 of them are yours.....

A link would be soooo much cleaner.

Sometimes article links later disappear.

When you read some of the older 911blogger posts, sometimes the links are no longer valid.

fair enough

That's a good reason. U could screenshot, save, upload a file. It would keep things cleaner but I would understand not wanting to do all that...but I personally think it makes the comment section undesirable for interaction.

Way less people comment on blogger than years passed.

This should hint at a few things to people. Mission goals and operation not being the least of those hints. I hope we get our act together before another 15 years passes, but I'm not holding my breath with what I see going on.

Tom, you want support from Bob G but it seems quite clear you don't support Bob G. What are your expectations?

April 20 - James Corbett & PressForTruth - 28 Pages and more

In this episode of Press For Truth Live Dan Dicks is joined on the line by James Corbett of The Corbett Report to discuss the missing 28 pages of the 911 commission and how this is now being used to threaten the Saudi Kingdom.
Dan is also joined on the line by Charlie Strange, the father of Michael Strange a Navy seal team 6 member involved with the raid on Osama Bin Laden who was subsequently killed in a helicopter crash.

Corbett starts talking around the 41 minute mark.

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Thanks to Platos Cave here is the relevant part about the 28 Pages.
Part 1

Part 2

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19 minute clean excerpt Video from CORBETTREPORT

Graham's record on US intelligence conduct is poor

Several books have made it clear that US intelligence conduct in regard to al-Hazmi and al-MIhdhar was messed up. 9/11 Commission legal counsel John Farmer is on the record admitting he doesn't know why the info wasn't shared with the FBI. This is not even accurate because when you really research this aspect you find it was shared but the FBI UBLU sat on the info. I believe Graham buys the notion of poor FBI/CIA communication.

Anytime the media wants answers about 9/11 they can interview Rich Blee and find out WTF he was doing and on whose orders. That they won't (or won't tell the public they have been ordered to back off) indicates they are simply not interested in the truth about 9/11.

The Ghosts of al-Hazmi and al-MIhdhar

The Ghosts of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar could sure settle a lot of debate about the Pentagon. It could save a tremendous amount of man-hours. I wonder what their take would be about the official story below.

Al-Hazmi and al-MIhdhar, Saudi citizens, are two of the five hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon as part of the September 11 attacks in the United States.

On September 11, Hazmi, Mihndar, Hanjour, et al. boarded American Airlines Flight 77. The flight was scheduled to depart at 08:10 but ended up departing 10 minutes late from Gate D26 at Dulles. The last normal radio communications from the aircraft to air traffic control occurred at 08:50:51. At 08:54, the hijackers killed pilots Charles Burlingame and David Charlesbois. Flight 77 began to deviate from its normal, assigned flight path and turned south. The hijackers then set the flight's autopilot in the direction of Washington, D.C. Passenger Barbara Olson called her husband, United States Solicitor General Theodore Olson, and reported that the plane had been hijacked and that the assailants had box cutters and knives. At 09:37, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the west facade of the Pentagon, killing all 64 aboard (including the hijackers) along with 125 in the Pentagon.

Nawaf al-Hazmi's 1988 blue Toyota Corolla was found on the next day in Dulles International Airport's hourly parking lot. Inside the vehicle, authorities found a letter written by Mohamed Atta, maps of Washington, D.C. and New York City, a cashier's check made out to a Phoenix flight school, four drawings of a Boeing 757 cockpit, a box cutter, and a page with notes and phone numbers.

Al-Hazmi, along with at least five other future hijackers (such as Hani Hanjour) , traveled to Las Vegas, Nevada at least six times in the summer of 2001. They reportedly drank alcohol, gambled, and paid strippers to perform lap dances for them.

Hani Hanjour piloted the plane into the Pentagon.
Hanjour gained his FAA commercial pilot certificate in April 1999, getting a "satisfactory" rating from the examiner. He traveled to Saudi Arabia to get a job working with Saudi Arabian Airlines as a commercial pilot but was rejected by a civil aviation school in Jeddah.

However, in January 2001, Arizona JetTech flight school managers reported him to the FAA at least five times because his English was inadequate for the commercial pilot’s certificate he had already obtained. It took him five hours to complete an oral exam meant to last just two hours, said Peggy Chevrette. Hanjour failed UA English classes with a 0.26 GPA and a JetTech manager said “He could not fly at all.” His FAA certificate had become invalid late in 1999 when he failed to take a mandatory medical examination. In February, Hanjour began advanced simulator training in Mesa, Arizona.

-- Pentagon Flight 77 --
Using the flight intercom, Hanjour announced the flight was hijacked. As Flight 77 was 5 miles west-southwest of the Pentagon, it made a 330-degree turn.
At the end of the turn, it was descending through 2,200 feet, pointed toward the Pentagon and downtown Washington.
Hanjour advanced the throttles to maximum power and dove towards the Pentagon at a speed of over 850 km/h (528 miles per hour). At 09:37:46, Hanjour crashed the Boeing 757 into the west facade of the Pentagon.
While level above the ground and seconds from the crash, the airplane's wings knocked over light poles and its right engine smashed into a power generator, creating a smoke trail seconds before smashing into the Pentagon.

Taken from
“The 28 Pages” Revisits… “Man who met 9/11 Hijackers poisoned in Texas” 911blogger

EXCERPT from 911blogger (1:41 minutes)


"From Erik Larson, one of his ISCAP appeals caused it's publication."

That's where I first saw it. I don't think Erik or anyone else realizes how important and informative some of the stuff he's gathering is. It's been a tremendous help to me in my research and understanding.

From News link:
"Recently declassified information that a flight certificate of an Al Qaeda operative linked to 9/11 turned up in an envelope from the Saudi embassy in Washington is raising fresh questions about the Kingdom's ties to the terror attack."

The document was The work plans for Dana Lesemann and Michael Jacobson, this would be close to the 28 pages because these were the two main investigators covering that. Their investigation was the result of the 28 pages. They then went to the 9-11 commission to follow up on their work from the Joint Inquiry. I believe it was Jacobson who discovered the hijackers were living with an FBI informant. The FBI didn't just volunteer that information. Jacobson was doing a real investigation and should be commended. Of course Zelikow fired Dana, which no doubt sent a message.

From News article:

"The certificate was for Ghassan al Sharbi, an extremist captured in Pakistan and sent to Guantanamo Bay. Al Sharbi, who went to flight school with the 9/11 hijackers but did not take part in the attacks, buried a cache of documents near where he was staying in Pakistan, “including an envelope from the Saudi embassy in Washington D.C. containing his flight certificate.”

"The certificate and other revelations were laid out in a 47-page work plan prepared for the FBI in June 2003 but not declassified until last July."

"The declassified document is gaining new attention as lawmakers are pressuring President Obama, currently visiting the Kingdom, to declassify the remaining 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report."

Actually I posted the document last year for the debunkers to have something interesting to read......

seen here:

"This is not my work. It is the work of Michael Jacobson and Dana Leseman who worked on both the Joint Inquiry and 9-11 Commission report."

"Document 17" is part of this release batch - 29 Documents in all....

ISCAP Released Files FY 2015
2012-048 9/11 FBI Files
Location: NARA-Center for Legislative Archives

And as for the envelope from the Saudi embassy in Washington D.C. containing his flight certificate......

"The certificate was for Ghassan al Sharbi, an extremist captured in Pakistan and sent to Guantanamo Bay. Al Sharbi, who went to flight school with the 9/11 hijackers but did not take part in the attacks, buried a cache of documents near where he was staying in Pakistan, “including an envelope from the Saudi embassy in Washington D.C. containing his flight certificate.”

There was a name written on the Saudi Embassy envelope. And the FBI was supposed to turn that over. Did they?

From Document 18:

Action Items from Commission Meeting with FBI and CIA on 22 July 2003

10. FBI to provide the individual's name written on the Saudi embassy envelope that was found with the effects of Ghassan al-Sharbi in Pakistan, and any information available about that individual.

Document 18 also shows that the Hijackers seemed to have the FBI Informants address, and were using it, before they even moved in...........

"How did Hazmi have Muppet's address on his notice to vacate the Parkwood apartment on 13 February 2000 and Mihdhar use the same address for his change of address on his bank account on 19 April 2000? Did they meet Muppet earlier than late spring, when they moved in? Did Bayoumi provide it to them?

Muppet is the code name for Abdussattar Shaikh, the FBI informant.

Document 18 also implies Agent Bayoumi was transferred 4 payments into his account totalling $37,000 on the same day as the hijackers arriving in California......

"On January 15, 2000, Al-Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar flew from Bangkok, Thailand to Los Angeles, Ca, on United Airlines Flight 2".

Document 18:

"Does the record evidence of deposits into Bayoumi's San Diego bank accounts preclude the possibility that he received four wire transfers on or about I5 January 2000 (as were reported by Scotland Yard) in cash (in other words, has the FBI concluded that the $1Ok, $15k; $2k, and $10k transfers were never even made from Bayoumi's Bank of America in Saudi Arabia, or merely that no such transfers were received in Bayoumi's San Diego accounts)?"

Lots of info in these 29 documents.

Name on envelope

"10. FBI to provide the individual's name written on the Saudi embassy envelope that was found with the effects of Ghassan al-Sharbi in Pakistan, and any information available about that individual."

Several news reports seemed to be interested in this Saudi embassy envelope. As I said, Document 18 implied there was a name on the envelope...

"10. FBI to provide the individual's name written on the Saudi embassy envelope that was found with the effects of Ghassan al-Sharbi in Pakistan, and any information available about that individual."

The name is Haydar El-Awad. As can be seen on page 36 of Document 17.....

"Have you been able to determine his relationship to Haydar El-Awad, the individual who's name is on the envelope from the Saudi Embassy?" page 36 of 47

Evidently he was the only employee at a small language school in Chantilly, Virginia, that received Government Contracts from the State Department...

"Elawad Haydar A is a contractor in the Language Schools industry. Last year, they did not win any contracts. Since 2000, the contractor has performed 4 contracts with a total obligation amount of $583,092.14"

And now works at the State Department.....

"Haydar Ahmed Elawad
Title: Training Instructor
Agency: Department of State

In 2014, Haydar Ahmed Elawad was a Training Instructor at the Department of State in Washington, District Of Columbia. Elawad began working at the Department of State in 2011 with a starting salary of $62,467. Since then, Elawad's salary has increased to $69,400 in 2014.

Haydar Ahmed Elawad is a GG-11 under the grades similar to general schedule payscale."

This would be an assumption that this is the same person. I can't say with 100% certainty, This is not a proven fact.

However this is...

page 36 of Document 17.....

"Have you been able to determine his relationship to Haydar El-Awad, the individual who's name is on the envelope from the Saudi Embassy?" page 36 of 47

Ex-Ambassador calls for invasion of Saudi Arabia & no lawsuit

Video from Jkeogh's FOX NEWS link -
Published April 20, 2016

QUOTE excerpts
"...If the US government thinks that the Saudi government was involved in 9/11, then the US government ought to take the same sort of action (as invading Afghanistan). It is a mistake, and only, only in over-lawyered America could you believe that the appropriate response to an act of war is to authorize a lawsuit..."
[Regarding lawsuits and if the 9/11 Families' lawsuit bill is approved.]
" will cause harm to America beyond calculation in the number of lawsuits that our citizens could face in other countries down the road....

(5 1/2 minute video)
Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton came out strongly against the pending legislation that would allow U.S. citizens to sue the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia for any complicity in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Eric Shawn reports Saudis and 9/11
April 18

4/21 Luke Rudkowski - 28 Pages - his summary & perspective

One possible "hidden agenda" which Luke mentions is a Petro-Dollar scenario.

An opportunity for 9/11 Truth Actions

April 21, 2016
Corbett Report and Media Monarchy point out that this is at least a window of opportunity to take action for 9/11 Truth with a "judo move".

Opportunity for 9/11 Truth Actions at 7:27

Traitors will be dealt with

From the article:

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration will likely soon release at least part of a 28-page secret chapter

"release at least part"

This tells me to expect more BS manipulation. For Instance the following can be manipulated........

Some people think George Bush Kept America Safe. But he assisted certain Saudis in getting away with murdering 3000 people in America, while at the same time saying Saudi Arabia was helping the U.S. on the war on terror, and implying Iraq was working with Al Qaeda, not Saudi Arabia. Making him a co-conspirator in the 9-11 attacks.

This can be manipulated as...

____________ George Bush Kept America Safe.___________with murdering 3000 people in America, _________Saudi Arabia was helping the U.S. on the war on terror, ___________ Iraq was working with Al Qaeda, not Saudi Arabia. ___________ in the 9-11 attacks.'s important to know just who is actually in charge of deciding, what is released.

Meet the person who will decide what if anything on the 28 pages is released.........

"Ben Rhodes, President Barack Obama's deputy national security adviser, said Obama asked National Intelligence Director James Clapper to review the papers for possible declassification."

"When that's done we'd expect that there will be some degree of declassification that provides more information," Rhodes told reporters in Riyadh last week, where Obama met with King Salman and other Saudi leaders."

This is the guy Obama is using........ he's used him before......

"Clapper said he misspoke in the Senate hearing last year when he said the U.S. was not collecting Americans' data. But documents leaked by Edward Snowden, a former contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA), later showed that the agency had been gathering and storing phone records for years."

"Clapper's explanations for his answer have shifted over time. At first he defended his comments and said he meant the say the NSA was not going through Americans' email. Later, he said that his response was "the least untruthful" he could give Congress. Finally, he wrote a letter to Congress last June saying his answer was "clearly erroneous" and said that he had been thinking about the substance of the phone calls rather than the "to" and "from" information, which is known as metadata."

"The revelation offended Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, enough that he called on Clapper to resign his post last December and even suggested he might be guilty of perjury."

LOL!? Really? It's as if I am living in a perpetual sick SNL skit....

"When that's done we'd expect that there will be some degree of declassification that provides more information," Rhodes told reporters in Riyadh last week, where Obama met with King Salman and other Saudi leaders.


"I'm supposed to take this stuff seriously?"

Roemer was on the 9-11 he is being stunned by the lying of Head of CIA.....

"Look at the long pause from the questioner (1min18sec). The reason for the incredulous pause is because......(see text at link)..

From the article:

"Roemer said many questions remain about the roles of Fahad al Thumairy, an official at the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles who allegedly helped two of the hijackers find housing and transportation after they arrived in Southern California. Al Thumairy was later denied entry into the United States in May 2003 after the State Department alleged that he might be involved in terrorist activity. Roemer also wants to know more about Omar al Bayoumi, who was strongly suspected of being a Saudi spy and was alleged to have been helpful to the hijackers.

"We did not discover ... Saudi government involvement at the highest level of the 9/11 attacks," Roemer said. But he added: "We certainly did not exonerate the Saudis...."

No Kidding?....

"The "28 pages" will show that the contact in America for the first hijackers to arrive was a Saudi Diplomat who worked in the Consulate of the Saudi Embassy in L.A. It will reveal this person, named Fahad al-Thumairy, most likely escorted known Terrorist Khallad Bin Attash into the U.S. as well. Thumairy, the Saudi Government employee and IMAM at the King Fahad Mosque, supplied the newly arrived hijackers with an apartment near Venice Boulevard in Culver City, and supplied them a driver as well. After a couple of weeks in L.A. Saudi Agent Bayoumi after meeting with Thumairy, met the hijackers at a restaurant and started arranging for their move to San Diego, where he and another Saudi Agent named Osama Basnan would assist them with housing, flight school enrollments, obtaining ID's, and so forth.

Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar is funding Osama Basnan, who FBI Investigators report as a "known Bin Laden supporter". This money is then turned over to Bayoumi for expenses concerning the two hijackers. That's just a start."

BTW - Thumairy hasn't even been mentioned until recently (Graham was the first in a deposition for the Victims of 9-11)
That's because every time he is mentioned, they are releasing classified information.....

December 29, 2013
Fahad al-Thumairy's name appears no where in the unclassified version of the joint inquiry. Therefore Fahad al-Thumairy is mentioned in the 28 pages that have been censured from the joint inquiry.

The American people have already paid for these pages with their money and their blood.

Just release the 28 pages you f*&#ing cowards!

April 23 - "9/11 Commission: No Saudi smoking gun"

9/11 Commission: No Saudi smoking gun
The Washington Times - April 23, 2016

...The commission co-chairmen, former New Jersey Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, put out a lengthy statement on Friday. They said their investigators worked off leads in those 28-pages, but could find no evidence that the Riyadh Islamic government was involved in the al Qaeda attack by 19 hijackers, 15 of them Saudi nationals.

"We believe it important the public understand what the commission did with regard to the 28 pages," the two said in their statement.

They portrayed the secret passages, not as confirmed, smoking-gun findings, but "raw, unvetted material that came to the FBI."

"That material was then written up in FBI files as possible leads for further investigation," the statement read. "The 28 pages were a summary of some of those reports and leads, as of the end of 2002. Before completing its work, the congressional panel never had a chance to check out any of these leads. The 28 pages, therefore, are comparable to preliminary law enforcement notes, which are generally covered by grand jury secrecy rules. Those rules exist to avoid implicating people in serious crimes without the benefit of follow-up investigation to determine if such suspicions are substantiated."

The former chairmen said the joint intelligence panel named names in the 28 pages, meaning releasing the raw pages would implicate people in "the worst mass murder ever carried out in the United States."

Mr. Kean and Mr. Hamilton said their staff "investigated over the course of 18 months all the leads contained in the 28 pages, and many more."

There is much speculation on two of the hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, who arrived in Los Angeles in January 2000 and proceeded to make contacts with other Saudi nationals, some connected to a mosque known for extremist preaching... ...

...One of their connections was with Fahah al Thumairy, a employee of a Saudi ministry and an imam at the mosque. He left the U.S. after the attack and was denied reentry.

The commission interviewed him in Saudi Arabia and found no evidence he was involved in the plot. The former chairmen said he was the only person of interest in the entire 28 pages.

They pointed out that they did not spare criticism of the Islamic kingdom in Riyadh, which promotes a harsh form of Islam and enforces it with religious police.

"For years, the Saudi government tolerated and in some cases fanned the diffusion of an especially vitriolic extremist form of Islam, funding schools and mosques across the globe that spread it," the Kean-Hamilton statement said. "Wealthy Saudis contributed to Islamic charities, some of which had links to terrorism. That policy has had tragic consequences for Saudi Arabia itself. Extremists made the Saudi kingdom one of their top targets. This is one of the reasons why Saudi Arabia has been an ally of the United States in combatting terrorism; many Saudi public servants have died in their battles with al Qaeda operatives...."

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April 22
9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages


We seem to be doing the opposite. While you are highlighting(with bold text)the message/propoganda of the 9-11 Commissioners, I'm busy trying to expose their BS............

I'm going to be nice, and assume you have good intentions that I don't understand/comprehend

Good luck on your endeavor.

April 25 - Jon Gold's summary of recent news on The 28 Pages

Big push for phone calls, etc. at provides a broad-based overview of a resolution submitted to the new Congress on Jan. 6, 2015 as well as Senate Bill 1471, with the purpose of declassifying and releasing 28 pages from the “Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001″.


Important Message from The Jersey Girls - April 29

(Orangutan originally posted it here - )

9/11 Commission Did Not Exonerate Saudis
By Kristen Breitweiser, one of the four 9/11 widows – known as the “Jersey Girls” – instrumental in forcing the government to form the 9/11 Commission to investigate the 2001 attacks. (9/11 widows Patty Casazza, Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, and Lorie Van Auken also sign their names to this blog)

"...And so I ask everyone who is reading this blog to please read it in its entirety — especially the bold parts. And, if you care about our country, if you care about peace, and keeping American lives safe from terrorists, pay attention to what is being said here — and never forget it....

Basnan, Binalshibh, Prince Bandar, Princess Haifa, Al-Jubeir,ObL

9-11 Commission - Protected Felons/Terrorists - Documents Show

May 1 - "Meet The Press" CIA Director John Brennan

CIA Director John Brennan on Foreign Policy, Terrorism (Full) | Meet The Press | NBC News


CIA director: '28 pages' contain inaccurate information

CIA Director John Brennan said Sunday that releasing the 28 classified pages from the 9/11 Commission report would be a mistake because they contain inaccurate, un-vetted information that could be used to tie Saudi Arabia to the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

"This chapter was kept out because of concerns about sensitive methods, investigative actions, and the investigation of 9/11 was still underway in 2002," Brennan said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
He said information in the 28 pages hasn't been vetted or corroborated, adding that releasing the information would give ammunition to those who want to tie the terror attacks to Saudi Arabia.

"I think there's a combination of things that are accurate and inaccurate [in the report]," Brennan said. "I think the 9/11 Commission took that joint inquiry and those 28 pages or so and followed through on the investigation and then came out with a very clear judgment that there was no evidence that ... Saudi government as an institution or Saudi officials or individuals had provided financial support to al Qaeda."

Good find. - Mohammad bin Salman - age 16 on 9/11/01

From following all the news reports about the current administration in Saudi Arabia (the administration has dramatically changed in the past 6 years), the 30 year old Prince Mohammad bin Salman is putting forth some major changes in how the government does things.

CNBC - May 9, 2016 - 3 videos

In the second video...
An interesting point was made, when Ben Rhodes and his "sell job of Iran to the American public" was mentioned in a interview with a former Saudi oil executive, Sadad Al-Husseini.
"Look, we've all been a little bit cynical in the middle east about some of the stuff that gets published or comes out of the U.S. Administration, not just now but don't forget "the weapons of mass destruction" a few years back and the devastation of Iraq that followed. I think we are not surprised over here, overseas. I do hope that the public in the U.S. takes that into consideration when they hear some these somewhat unusual agreements being pushed, like this Iranian nuclear deal...."
It was also mentioned that the extraction cost of a barrel of oil in Saudi Arabia might range from $5 to maybe $10 a barrel.

In the third video...
Former Ambassador to Saudi also talks about the Ben Rhodes snow job to the American public about the Iranian deal.
"...The Iran deal continues to trouble the Saudis very much. It is seen as a further gift to Iran. They accuse the American policy makers back in the George W Bush Administration of making an enormous gift to Iran by invading Iraq...."

Personally, I had never realized that the Saudis resent Bush for invading Iraq.

Ben Rhodes - Iran - 5 years Lee Hamilton's Assistant & 9/11

On May 5, 2016, the New York Times came out with a long article featuring Ben Rhodes.

The article caused a stir in the media, because it revealed how the Obama administration portrayed the Iran nuclear deal in a prejudiced, manufactured way via Ben Rhodes, ("Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications and Speechwriting" for U.S. President Barack Obama and is an Advisor on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action also known as the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal).

It should be noted that Saudi Arabia and Iran are at odds with each other, fighting proxy wars and also currently aggressively competing for oil market share.
Oil prices were over $100 barrel until the summer of 2014 when they started a sharp decline to $29 barrel by February 2016. The fall in prices is blamed on over supply in the marketplace. Often Saudi Arabia is blamed, but also the oil fracking industry production of oil in the United States and in other countries had risen to apex levels. Saudi Arabia has a very low cost of oil extraction compared to fracking.

In early January, 2016, Saudi Arabia severed diplomatic ties with Iran after its embassy grounds in Tehran were set on fire during Iranian protests as a result of the Saudi execution of 47 people.

Jan 16, 2016 - US lifts most of its sanctions on Iran after 37 years with a nuclear arms deal.

Earlier in Ben Rhodes' career, he spent five years as a Lee Hamilton assistant, helping to draft the Iraq Study Group Report and the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission.

comments by John F Lehman...

Saudi officials were 'supporting' 9/11 hijackers, commission member says

and from Marcy Wheeler at

“You do your part, you’ll get your share, there’s plenty for everybody.” Stay quiet about the failures that led to 9/11, and you’ll be financially rewarded."

That Guardian article is also very good. Filled with info.

In the interview Wednesday, John F Lehman said Kean and Hamilton’s statement that only one Saudi government employee was “implicated” in supporting the hijackers in California and elsewhere was “a game of semantics” and that the commission had been aware of at least five Saudi government officials who were strongly suspected of involvement in the terrorists’ support network.

“They may not have been indicted, but they were certainly implicated,” he said. “There was an awful lot of circumstantial evidence.”

Although Lehman said he did not believe that the Saudi royal family or the country’s senior civilian leadership had any role in supporting al-Qaida or the 9/11 plot, he recalled that a focus of the criminal investigation after 9/11 was upon employees of the Saudi ministry of Islamic affairs, which had sponsored Thumairy for his job in Los Angeles and has long been suspected of ties to extremist groups.

He said “the 28 pages”, which were prepared by a special House-Senate committee investigating pre-9/11 intelligence failures, reviewed much of the same material and ought to be made public as soon as possible, although possibly with redactions to remove the names of a few Saudi suspects who were later cleared of any involvement in the terrorist attacks.

John F Lehman

Lehman was a PNAC supporter, signing some of the policy letters.
His investment firm,J.F. Lehman & Company supports the defense industry. It prefers to invest in the U.S. and U.K. defense markets. It prefers to invest between $25 million and $75 million in companies with enterprise values of between $30 million and $300 million.

What was the point of Thin Thread

when the intelligence community was aware of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar? Michael Hayden has basically blamed 9/11 on the lack of caller ID in regard to knowing al-Mihdhar was making calls from the US to the Yemen hub. This excuse was debunked by Drake and author James Bamford.

We are talking about something worse than bloated software and missed clues. We are talking about NSA officials who knew the al Qaeda guys were in the US and evidently were told to back off. That is the issue that never gets discussed in the mainstream media. It doesn't help when journalists fail to make obvious connections. For example al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were protected by the CIA and FBI as well. Discussion of missed clues is misleading.

I hear ya about how the media cuts important info.

By looking at the media, what it portrays and doesn't portray, we can gain better insight.

Too Long

How long does it take to review 80,000 pages?

Some of them should have been cleared for release by now.

May 17, 2016 and concurrence of significant surprising events

Tuesday May 17, 2016
Senate passes bill allowing 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia 911blogger

Monday May 16
In a surprise move, the US Treasury released the treasury holdings of Saudi Arabia which had been kept secret as part of a 1974 oil agreement. Also surprising was that instead of 750 billion in treasury holdings per the New York Times in April 2016, Saudi Arabia's holdings were only 117 billion, ranking #13 among nations.
GRAPHIC list of US Treasury holdings among nations
(Large graphic) -

BLOOMBERG - (About Saudi treasury holdings) " really shows that maybe the fact is that the truth is somewhere in between (750 billion and 117 billion)....
(3 minutes)

In an Unexpected Twist, Saudi Arabia was buying US Treasuries over Past Year
EXCELLENT ARTICLE by F. William Engdahl (with history about the 1974 secret oil accord and also the DOLLAR)
From Golden Dollar to Petro Dollar to Narco Dollar

By late 1974...Saudi Arabia, in return for generous US defense equipment purchases and guarantees of its military security, agreed that OPEC would accept only US dollars for their oil, not German Marks despite their clear value, not Japanese Yen nor French Francs or even Swiss Francs, but only American dollars.
That was the essence of the petrodollar system which over the past decade or more has been eroding as Russia, China, Iran and even the EU challenge the role of the dollar as reserve currency. Russia and China, in a defensive move have agreed to energy trade for oil and gas paid not in dollars but in own currencies. Iran recently announced it will accept only Euros for its oil. More and more the days of the dollar demise are being proclaimed....

GRAPHIC of Saudi Arabia's defense budget ranks within the top 4 among nations.
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Monday May 16 - early - GOLDMAN SACHS announcement surprises market - oil prices jump
...U.S. bank Goldman Sachs, one of the most bearish forecasters on oil over the past year, on Monday raised its short-term price outlook as it said the market had flipped into a deficit due to production outages in Nigeria and Canada....

Friday May 13
HUGE DEBT in US Oil Companies - (Compare US oil relegated leveraged investments to Saudi Arabia's 117 billion in treasuries)
...Since the start of 2015, 130 North American oil and gas producers and service companies have filed for bankruptcy owing almost $44 billion, according to law firm Haynes & Boone. The tally doesn’t include Chaparral Energy Inc., Penn Virginia Corp. and Linn Energy LLC, which filed for bankruptcy this week owing more than $11 billion combined....

The Wall Street Journal mentions "...The total debt of the U.S. oil and gas companies, excluding Chevron and ExxonMobil, is expected to increase to more than $200 billion when all the 2015 financials come out. That’s a 55 percent increase since 2010—all fueled by higher oil prices at that time...."

NOTE - Loans to US oil companies are not the only factor. Many entities have skin in the game. Big Investment Funds and Hedge Funds own shares in energy companies...huge amounts. There are also the supporting and inter-related industries. Examples: Pipelines, trains, shipping, transportation, manufacturing of energy related products, service industries for energy, industries producing other commodities such as iron ore, storage, employment, etc.

Over one trillion dollars has been wiped from U.S. oil and gas company valuations since mid-2014

The United States is the "swing producer" of oil, not Saudi Arabia.

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Rigging The Oil Market: ‘Perhaps 60% of Today’s Oil Price is Pure Speculation’ -2008 article

May 12, 2016
Thursday Fakery: Manipulation In The Oil Market Boosts Prices

May 13, 2016
Holding 30% Of June Brent Crude Contracts, Is Glencore Manipulating Oil Prices?

"...the WTI crude oil contract trades more than 100 times the produced quantity...."

BLOOMBERG - Oil prices driven by derivatives

Oil is the most highly traded commodity. It is traded in dollars. Billions of dollars in oil futures are traded daily. Now, with computers, "High Frequency Trading" exists.
What about oil that is actually delivered?

So, out of all the money in oil futures traded on the exchanges...
"...It is estimated that typically 4% or LESS is actually delivered. A contract may be bought and sold many times before the delivery date as businesses attempt to manage their risk. This is what accounts for the large volume traded, though relatively little is delivered..."

Important Quote

Taken from Platos Cave's comment.

"It's very detailed, it has the names of the people who supplied money to the 15 Saudi Arabians who participated in the bombing of the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. It has the names of the people who supplied the money, the bank account numbers, the amounts of money, where the money went to. And I'm not at liberty to tell you who those people were, but use your imagination a little bit and I can tell you that the rumours that have been circulated . . . I didn't see a whole lot that would negate those rumours"
~ Congressman Rick Nolan (D-Minnesota) at 03:14 in this video:


"...the 15 Saudi Arabians who participated in the bombing of the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon."

Yes, I noticed that too

as I'm sure many others did. Of course, if asked, he would probably just say that he meant that they "bombed" the WTC and Pentagon with planes, but it's interesting nonetheless. As is also the fact that not once in the entire video is the word "hijackers" used, even when Rick Nolan is talking about the 15 Saudis. It's pretty much standard that when talking about them, they're referred to as "the hijackers" or maybe "alleged hijackers" but here he just says the "15 Saudi Arabians"

Also of note- A COUP in Saudi leadership - Names of at least 6

I tend to look at this quote within an important context....
A coup has taken place in Saudi leadership over the course of the past few years. A power struggle consolidation along with a big change from the traditional in how leadership is chosen.
We are talking about a major "Game of Thrones" wrestle match within factions of the Royal Family (which numbers in the thousands). Another aspect is that the current man in power was age 16 when 9/11/01 happened which makes him entirely non-culpable.
Some aspects of this coup are mentioned in this comment...

Also, the quote mentions concrete evidence of banking transactions. That is significant hardcore evidence.
Evidently, there are at least 6 Saudi names...

John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission, told CNN Thursday (May 12th) that the classified 28 pages of a congressional investigatory report into the attacks contains evidence that as many as six Saudi officials supported al Qaeda in the run-up to the attacks.
Those individuals, he said, worked for the Saudi Embassy in the U.S., Saudi charities and the Saudi government-funded King Fahd Mosque in California...."

"Why Now?"

An extremely important question is "Why now?"
The question is asked in this interview, but never answered. (And I really want to know the answer. --TomT )

NOTE: Scott Rickard, a former US Air Force intelligence linguist from Tampa, is interviewed. I think most people would be impressed by his take on things in the interview.
Scott Rickard is a trained translator and former intelligence officer for the USAF, the NSA, and the Directorate of National Intelligence (DNI). The director of the DNI is currently James Clapper and is in charge of 17 US spy agencies. Rickard has translated Korean and Arabic and is currently working at high level systems engineering.