History Channel Hit Piece

According to my Dish network on-screen TV guide the History Channel hit piece is set to air on Monday at 8 pm and 12 am Tuesday (that’s central time for me).

The program description has 9/11 truth basically reduced to being an Internet rumor further conforming our suspicions of a hit piece.

“Conspiracy theories about the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 grow on the Internet.”

Something has happened to the History Channel

I am suspicious that something like the hostile replacement of Popular Mechanics experienced editors has taken place at the History Channel. There was a major upset after the History Channel aired the three new parts of Nigel Turner's The Men Who Killed Kennedy series in late 2003. One of these new episodes showed that the limousine was sent up to Ford Motor Co. in Detroit two days after the assassination to have the car refurbished and its bullet riddled windshield replaced and disposed of. The History Channel was forced somehow to remove those three episodes from the series and withdraw them from their on line store. You can't buy a tape or DVD of one of those episodes now.

Prior to this the History Channel seemed as though the shows they aired were fair and often quite close to the truth.

Tony, I have them

chapters 7,8,9 incredible stuff
give me a way to mail you a copy and I'll slip a dvd in the mail.
don't want to leave an email address

I sent you a private message

Parrotfish, I sent you a private message with my home and e-mail address. Thanks for the offer.

YouTube/Google Video

Yeah try to get these on YouTube or preferably Google Video for all of us to view and enjoy!! Thanks.

DirecTV TiVo Help...

Does anyone know how to copy the video off of a DirecTV HD DVR +

I just set mine to record the 8pm show... but haven't tried to copy video off of it before. I'll be able to post the video in it's entirety (minus commericals) here in blogs without having to go through YouTube or anything as long as I get a copy of the actual source.

If anyone gets a copy and wants me to post it in a blog (or give them the code to post anywhere), then send an email to pjackson@untilthesunstops.org and I'll open some space up at www.untilthesunstops.org ... and then I'll post the video.

Commercial is

Michael Scheuer is gonna be

Michael Scheuer is gonna be on it? oh christ, hes the chief Bin Laden propagandist, hes gonna hit us hard with how dangerous and capable Osama is, his entire career depends on it.

edit: saw the commercial and Scheuer is on it for sure. he said we dont have evidence. yeah, and the Taliban killed Massoud NOT the CIA right Scheuer? this man is a professional liar. leave it to the History channel to prop up somebody from one of the groups linked to the 9/11 plot to defend the official story. this is gonna be a mess.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Spook

Michael Scheuer also supports Ron Paul

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Attempts to discredit the truth movement

I have gotten in volotile discussions with people in my life on the subject of 911. I know many of you have as well. This is just the base ball bat they are going to try hitting us with. Now we have to try and tell them that the media is in on it, which is true, I say it over and over, the warnings of Eisenhower "Beware the influence of the military industrial comlex", and the MIC owns the media, and Abraham Lincoln's warnings of the criminal element of the corporate world, but they call me nuts.

So, we need some new strategies. Maybe we just need to keep plugging away at the same strategies. ????????

I feel like we are getting washed back out to sea, time and time again. Just when we think we are going to make ground, the tide pulls us under again. Sometimes, I want to break down into tears, the frustration!!!

I guess we need to get someone on it like David Brancacio from NOW, or some show that isn't part of the defense industry "matrix" to get on it.

I wonder if Bill Moyers on his Bill MOyers Journal would?

Finally Michael Moore is acknowledging these things we know. Did he say he was going to do something?

I'm especially discouraged now, because as I go to blogs, specifically recently the http://screwloosechange.blogspot , I'm especially bummed, because they blocked my ability to post links. I'd used the www.patriotsquestion911.com link quite a bit, numerous times, but only because I knew it not only showed immense crediblility among its individuals there, but there were many different links which better made my points within it as well. I got accused of being a spammer. Have any of you had similiar experiences?

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>>David Brancacio from

>>David Brancacio from NOW

No one at NOW or any other PBS program will ever embrace 9/11 questions when what they first come across when they start to look into the claims are missile at the Pentagon, no hijackers at all, no passengers, drones, etc.

Look at this site that comes up on page 1 of a google for "conspiracy theories 9/11" -

http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm

It's primarily easy refutations of the Pentagon claims.

The hard stuff is nonexistent. The easy bunk is the first thing that average people like your dentist or your uncle or your insurance agent will come across. That's why we have such a massive uphill battle -- the easiest to refute claims are front and center to turn people off as soon as they look. It works.

The people at PBS care about their credibility and will have nothing to do with transparent nonsense.

The strong stuff is no where to be found while the missile at the Pentagon -- meaning we just "disappeared" all the passengers = nutcasery -- controls everything.

I hate to disappoint you, but --

David Brancacio, Bill Moyers, and Michael Moore aren't going to help us one iota on 9/11 truth. Any more than Charlie Rose is going to have David Ray Griffin as a guest on his PBS program.

These guys are all media gatekeepers. Since at least the first three are in some ways pretty far to the left, they nicely fit the description -- a term coined by others -- of left gatekeepers. Are they CIA operatives? Are they just doing what they need to do to maintain their media careers? Or are they just blind to reality?

I have no idea. But I can guarantee they'll never lift a finger to help publicize 9/11 truth until the movement has grown so overpowering that it'd be way too late for them to do it any good anyhow.

I would start with...

the MSM. First, CIA Director George Tenet's admission to Larry King on his CNN program that they knew "multiple, spectacular" attacks were coming and informed Condi Rice. A quick search for those subjects will bring you to the transcript.

I would imagine that if you took the top expert in that type of work and gave him the assignment of bringing these buildings down with explosives, I would bet that he could do it."-Saturday, February 27, 1993-John Skilling, Head Structural Engineer WTC

http://dotheordersstillstand.blogspot.com/

Direct TV help....

You can use an S-video cord to go from the back of the DirectTV DVR box to a computer with a AV IN capabilities. From there you can burn it to DVD if you have the right software. I was able to do that with cartoons for my kids. I hope that helps....

I would imagine that if you took the top expert in that type of work and gave him the assignment of bringing these buildings down with explosives, I would bet that he could do it."-Saturday, February 27, 1993-John Skilling, Head Structural Engineer WTC

guess whats on History

guess whats on History Channel right now? Taliban and Bin Laden propaganda. setting up the 9/11 hit-piece exactly how i thought they would.

edit: they aired Target:Bin Laden TWICE today along with running the Taliban special twice.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

just saw the commercial on

just saw the commercial on History, it had Dylan saying how the official story doesnt hold up and cuts to Michael Scheuer saying-"the conspiratorial people dont have evidence to back them up etc." this from a man who has more invested in promoting the official story than most considering he was the head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit and failed to capture or kill the patsy Bin Laden(he now spends most of his time blaming Bill Clinton for that and promoting how scary Bin Laden is in the MSM). this cant stand, History Channel needs to pay for this hit-piece. Targeted:Osama Bin Laden is on as we speak. later today is a special on the Taliban. these bastards need to hear from us, we have to flood them after 11 tonight. we all know whats coming, hell, flood them right now.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I have no cable. Can anyone

I have no cable. Can anyone tell me where this show will be posted this evening so that I can watch it?

I pay no attention

to any of the garbage the so-called "History Channel" puts out. Did any of you see the latest hit piece on the JFK murder? They are still trying to push the Oswald, magic bullet theory. I couldn't believe it. I don't know one single person who still believes that one. They have zero credibility.

yep, along with the

yep, along with the Discovery Channel as well. they had a "special" recently with Gerald Posner spewing his lies throughout. i wonder why all the sudden emphasis on debunking JFK? probably has something to do with that study that came out recently proving multiple shooters that recieved next to no attention in the MSM. its all fear, just like this History Channel hit-piece is pure fear on the part of the media who have failed us and see people waking up to that fact in large part because of 9/11 and the perps who remain free.

Study Led By Former FBI Scientist Says Multiple Shooters In JFK Assassination

John Solomon
Washington Post
In a collision of 21st-century science and decades-old conspiracy theories, a research team that includes a former top FBI scientist is challenging the bullet analysis used by the government to conclude that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating President John F. Kennedy in 1963.

The "evidence used to rule out a second assassin is fundamentally flawed," concludes a new article in the Annals of Applied Statistics written by former FBI lab metallurgist William A. Tobin and Texas A&M University researchers Cliff Spiegelman and William D. James.

"If the assassination fragments are derived from three or more separate bullets, then a second assassin is likely, as the additional bullet would not be attributable to the main suspect, Mr. Oswald."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/170507multipleshooters.htm

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Meanwhile on the "Military &

Meanwhile on the "Military & War" channel, the featured clip is...Pearl Harbor
http://www.history.com/topics.do?type=channels&subject=militarywar

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

Was there anything...

Other than Controlled Demolition or the Pentagon covered?


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most everything is being covered....

including the minetta testimony
unfortunately david ray brought up voice morphing

I watched...

Most of it, and I would say they covered about 1-2% of it. Controlled Demolition, Missile Hitting The Pentagon, Flight 93 Being Shot Down, Stand Down Order, Cellphones, and Mineta, and they didn't even expand on any of it.

And they were extremely biased. They used the family members that don't question 9/11 against us without even mentioning the other set of families that do question the attacks.


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Touting voice morphing is a mistake

I thought bringing up the voice morphing possibility was a mistake also. I do think DavId Ray Griffin has a good analytical mind but he should realize voice morphing isn't something the average person will believe in and should have known better to stay away from it. I firmly believe 911 was an inside job and I even have a hard time believing voice morphing was used. It is in the non-falsifiable category and shouldn't be used as an argument.

I was surprised to see Jim Fetzer behaving himself and staying away from space beams and no planes. Thank God.

Things that weren't covered and cheap shots

I do have to mention some important things that weren't covered like

- the lack of physical evidence of high temperatures on the tower steel.
- molten metal in the rubble of all three buildings.
- why NIST only had less than 1% of the steel from the fire affected areas of the towers to test.
- the sulfidation of the steel.
- the Oral Histories of the firefighters and emergency personnel.

and the fact that there were also some cheap shots like

- showing a victim family member, who is probably in the minority, saying she doesn't like the conspiracy
theories and explicitly saying that 911 conspiracy theorists are upsetting victim's family members. I
wonder what Donna Marsh O'Connor would have to say about that.
- calling people who question the present government explanation of the events of 911 conspiracy
theorists all night and then calling people like Popular mechanics stiffs Davin Coburn and James Meigs
experts with opposing views.

The History Channel is also suppressing a video of Larry Silverstein actually saying Bldg. 7 was a "controlled demolition for safety reasons" on a Sunday morning show called History's Business in early 2004. I know as I watched him say it and at the time I was not suspicious about 911 and that comment made sense to me as I had never understood Bldg. 7's complete collapse. It seems to me that the original plan may have been to admit it was a controlled demolition, but for safety reasons. It looks like it got to be a problem after Dr. Steven Jones' paper was published and people started asking when there would have been time to set the charges and then asking about the towers given all of the testimony about explosions being seen, heard, and felt after the Oral Histories were released in August 2005. I personally asked myself the question of when there would have been time to set the charges in Bldg. 7 only after reading Dr. Jones' paper in early 2006.

"The History Channel is also

"The History Channel is also suppressing a video of Larry Silverstein actually saying Bldg. 7 was a "controlled demolition for safety reasons" on a Sunday morning show called History's Business in early 2004."

Stunning recollection, Tony.

This video would be a stake in the heart of the NIST report.

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

What?!

"a video of Larry Silverstein actually saying Bldg. 7 was a 'controlled demolition for safety reasons' on a Sunday morning show called History's Business in early 2004"

I have never heard about that. Why isn't that video all over the place?

link

yes, but CD and the Pentagon

yes, but CD and the Pentagon were treated in a predictably unfair and woefully incomplete manner(Steven Jones was almost non-existent) along with everything else that was presented. Jim Miegs was treated as an expert during the entire show. if i had to guess i would say the "debunkers" or "experts" as they were called got about 70% of the airtime while the 9/11 truth crowd got about 30. Griffin got a few ok shots in and Steven Jones got maybe 2 sentences. Alex Jones wasnt allowed to present much evidence at all. they played a lot of emotionally manipulative cards including showing a family member saying "its like a dagger" and ending the show with someone saying "its corrosive" etc. it was basically a disaster and it wasnt the fault of anybody questioning the Pentagon or pointing out the demolition of the towers or WTC7 as the media controls the narrative and would ignore us altogether, including the Pakistan evidence if we as a movement completely ignored CD and the Pentagon. but thats not why you asked right? its because you didnt really see it? if thats the case you didnt miss much.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

It's a totally biased piece of trash hit piece

They're telling viewers how to think.
They're presenting the "experts" after they show the "conspiracists".

The great thing is they gave 2 hrs of airtime to 9/11 Truth and a lot of talk about Loose Change!

This so-called documentary will definitely backfire and be a win for 9/11 truth.

"Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy."
-Ron Paul

covered?

So CD was 'covered'? Or maybe it was just trashed with a couple of strawman arguments, which is more what i would expect...

exactly. Steve Jones got 2

exactly. Steve Jones got 2 sentences. they fear a real discussion about CD, it has YET to happen in the MSM.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

GEORGE ORWELL: "Anyone who

GEORGE ORWELL: "Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy, finds himself silence with surprising effectiveness."

Despite the efforts of the military industrial complex's media, the attempt will do a certain amount of damage to our movement among the sheep, but it will incline many others to start looking at the information offered on the internet, and the documentaries offered by the truth movement. So, there will be more scrutinizing study, which will only help us.

The guys that were speaking in behalf of the government story were especially weasel like, I must say.

The most severe form of learning disorders are owned by those that "already know everything."