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Prominent 911 Leader: How to Fight Disinformation

A prominent 9/11 truth leader sent the following email about disinformation and disruption in the 9/11 movement. I'm waiting for permission to use his name. I assure you, though, that he is someone with no axe to grind, and who is not in "one" camp or the "other". He cares only about truth.

His message provides a road map for how to deal with the infiltration, co-option, disruption and disinformation which has been unleashed against the 9/11 truth and justice movements, since those movements have the power to pull the rug out from under the whole fascist enterprise.

Allow me to suggest that we don’t need to choose between denunciation, on the one hand, and silence, on the other. That is an unnecessary choice, a false dichotomy.

Denunciation plays into their hands, which is unintended complicity.

Silence is also complicity, as Dr. Martin Luther King pointed out.

Instead of these two approaches, what’s needed is politically relevant education.

Education about agents of all kinds, especially agents provocateurs, their history, who employs them, their tactics.

There is a huge literature on this. We do not need to start at square one. Read about Operation Mockingbird. Read about COINTELPRO. Apply what we learn to today’s situation. Keep digging, learning, discussing, educating.

This can be done without inflammatory language, without denunciation, without even mentioning names. I mention none here.

When names are mentioned, it should be in connection with observable facts, with evidence. There is a world of difference between saying “A claimed not to know about X, but on [date] he stated “[I know about X],” on the one hand, and saying “A is a liar,” on the other.

While educating ourselves and others we can simultaneously actively combat agents of the state by refraining from engaging in the types of behaviour they employ to sow dissention: name-calling, rumour-mongering, insinuation. Especially specific name-calling. Refraining from this does not stifle vigorous discussion and debate, based on observable facts, statements and patterns.

Education drains the swamp. Most of agents will stand out. It’s happening already. Other agents are deeper. Understanding their purposes and identifying them and dealing with them depends on more education yet.

Believe me, I come from three generations of the spied-upon and harrassed. Doing nothing plays into their hands. We can’t pretend they don’t exist. Ignoring them will not make them go away.

How will younger people learn about the Agents of Deception unless there’s an ongoing education effort?

“History is a race between education and catastrophe,” wrote H.G. Wells.

One of the aims of the 9/11Truth movement inevitably must be to expose, oppose and work to dismantle the grotesquely huge organizations of spies, agents provocateurs and covert agents of all kinds. They are an insult to democracy and honest discourse.

We cannot gain the peaceful world we want as long as billions are spent on spies and spying – many of those billions on disrupting the lawful activities of us, citizens striving for a safer, saner world. The standard New York Times figure for the budget of “America’s intelligence community” – how homey – is $44-billion. That’s on the books. Add the black budgets and you have a higher figure.

It’s been a long time since spies and spying were a political issue. The Church Committee of the 70’s was the last time the lid was lifted on the creepy crawlies that scuttle about whole countries tricking whole populations.

It’s time we renewed the conversation about the immorality of spies and spying. No doubt largely through their own propaganda efforts, they’ve gone from being pariahs to being heroes, from necessary evils to top dogs, romanticized by the “entertainment” industry (although with many honourable exceptions) and uncriticized sacred cows in political circles.

Now that we are experiencing their dirty work on our own doorstep we must educate – with principle, passion, courage and understanding.

The real problem is immaturity

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are u joking?

Disinformation is not a problem in the 911 Truth movement?

PUH-LEEZE!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE BIGGEST LAUGH I HAVE HAD IN A VERY LOOOOOOOONG TIME!

JohnA; Disinfo by Fox News

JohnA;

Disinfo by Fox News and the MSM is a problem. They broadcast disinfo to the masses who don't check up facts on the Net. The MSM also knows themselves that the info is BS.

"Disinfo" by 9/11 Truth activists is not broadcasted to the masses, it is posted on the Net where people can check facts. Plus these misguided activists actually believe what they are saying and are probably in love with their own theories.

Here, let's do a test....

Galileo says mini-nukes took down the towers.

Anyone believe me?

Of course the mini-nukes theory has never been backed up with radioactive data, so that's why 0% of the public (rounded off) believes this theory.

WHY?

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It is pitiful that certain trolls do this!!

Just like on many other boards, there should be a daily allotment of vote points, and a clearer statement about the intended purpose behind the up/down vote function.

I often see so many down votes drive posts into collapse that I wonder if certain people are using multiple handles to unfairly wield clout. I have posed these questions to SBG and GW. Meanwhile, soundbite it, and put your thought on the headline...they hate that!!

r u serious?

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Excellent Post

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What most people do not realize

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What kind of an Idiot would vote this down?

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*snark*

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Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

Opinions on disinformation

"There's WAY too much self-importance in the 9/11 Truth and Justice Movement."

There are way too many personal attacks and irrelevant commentary on individuals within the 9/11 truth movement. 9/11 truth should eclipse any other issue within the movement. Honest critique of ideas are valuable, personal attacks and pointless insults are not.

"Realistically, the levels of true disinformation are probably extraordinarily low in this movement."

I disagree. First of all, the difference between disinformation and misinformation is irrelevant if both cause equal harm to our movement. Misinformation is equal in its effect to disinformation. In fact, I believe misinformation is a far worse and damaging problem than disinformation. Furthermore, the official story of 9/11 is disinformation which means that the subject of disinformation is a vital and essential topic of 9/11 discussion. The opinion that disinformation is "extraordinarily low in this movement" misses the mark by a long shot, since the very PURPOSE of our movement is to expose the disinformation of the official story of 9/11. We cannot avoid the subject of disinformation.

"In fact, I would feel very comfortable betting a large amount of money that there are zero."

It's a matter of opinion, and no one can know. My opinion is different than yours. What we can observe are false claims, destructive behavior, and ad-hominem commentary.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Speaking of destructive behavior and ad-hominems

Lookie what Webbie's planning tonight with his best mate Captain May:

Captain May wrote:

To: Portland Nuclear Inquest
,
Ghost Troop
From: Captain May
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:57:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Portland-Nuclear-Inquest] Webster Tarpley & Captain May: Interview, 9/27 (Thursday)

Dear Mr. Tarpley,

I would be happy to discuss these pseudonymic "Colonel Jenny Sparks" and her disinfo efforts against those of us who were trying to make the public aware of Operation Noble Resolve's danger to Portland. 10 minutes should be plenty of time for this. I hope that you will be exploring other areas of hard disinformation activities, such as those aiming at compromising The Kennebunkport Warning.

Best regards, Captain May.

PS: I found an interesting blog entry on the KW matter, which includes the well rendered editorial cartoon you recommended: http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/over-top-march-of-berlet-briga...

Webster Tarpley wrote:

Captain May --

Could we get you on the radio tomorrow Thursday between 9 and 10 eastern = 6 and 7 pacific to give a concise summary in about ten minutes of the intervention of "Col. Jenny Sparks" as saboteur against the Portland Oregon group? Because of the time constraints we would have to stick closely to this issue.
If you can make it, please send me a good stable land line phone number, not cordless, and Gensis will call you.
Enclosed a lampoon of the Berlet brigade.
WGT
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You gotta wonder why he's so obsessed if we're so wrong....

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Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

the 2 front war

>>"Col. Jenny Sparks" as saboteur
>>"Colonel Jenny Sparks" and her disinfo efforts

You appear to be engaged at the frontlines, Colonel. Keep up the good work. Sad that even just yesterday someone was unwittingly posting a Capt Eric May diatribe on here, but it appears that many were educated in the process. The work goes on . . .

Thanks.

You're welcome--but I'm not doing it alone! ;-)

Let's have a shout out for To everyone else who helped!!!!!!!!!!

They're easy to remember--they're called agents, too!:-)
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Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

the 2 front war

>>"Col. Jenny Sparks" as saboteur
>>"Colonel Jenny Sparks" and her disinfo efforts

You appear to be engaged at the frontlines, Colonel. Keep up the good work. Sad that even just yesterday someone was unwittingly posting a Capt Eric May diatribe on here, but it appears that many were educated in the process. The work goes on . . .

Thanks.

LOL — Hit a sore point?

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I've taken my paranoia pills, but you're still spouting disinfo

Hey doughnut, do yourself a favor and read my paper on disinfo again. You know, the part that talks about ad-hominems--the third level of disinformation? Or better yet, re-read the post you responded to where I said there was too much pointless insults and irrelevant personal commentary within the 9/11 truth movement!

sadly not a damn one of you

realise that whomever the real disinfo agents are you are doing exactly what they want you to do.

I agree

but, I have mostly ignored the personal attacks against me. I am not one of the people who gets into many fights on 911blogger, and its because I agree with exactly what you have said. There are users here who's sole purpose on this site appears to be to insult people and bait other users into starting fights.

"An agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French for "inciting agent") is a person who secretly disrupts a group's activities from within the group. Agents provocateurs typically represent the interests of another group, or are agents directly assigned to provoke unrest, violence, debate, or argument by or within a group while acting as a member of the group." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

You can bet your life it happens at 911blogger--screw the paranoia pills.

How about you write a decent disinfo paper first

It's very obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

If I'm remembering correctly, I pointed out some obvious problems with it, and you dismissed them out of hand.

But they were glaring errors and omissions.

And if you are now seriously calling me a "disinfo agent", then you have completely lost it.

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Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein

How to Handle it.....?

As I go about trying to inform, by way of blogs, the scathing, vile insults, I encounter, make me wonder who is just afraid of actually realizing what we've come to know, and who are agents of disinformation. It is especially bothersome, when among fellow Liberals, who are as vehemently opposed to the Bush regime as I, call me unspeakable names because I bring up the subject of questioning 911, or even if they (a Liberal) are polite, being referred to as one of the "Looney Left" gets annoying.

I wonder, if rather than accusing them of being a disinformation agent, asking them, why is it that it means so much to them, to counter this subject, especially if it holds no water, or so they say. WHY do they have to derail it? WHY does it matter to them?

Anyone have any insights as to how to handle these encounters?

I know it has been suggested that we not waste our time with those that will not consider the evidence, but,....since, there are so many more that visit sites, than those that actually post, I know that information I offer, that is left ridiculed with accompanying vile insults, my information, I've left has been somewhat defused. So, I do persevere...up to a point.

I have gone on for many days, even a week or so on some sites, on some threads. I feel like, despite the fact that there is opposition I encounter, so so many more people read the blogs than post, I must have qiqued some interest, and have left links. And since we all do that...I'm assuming, we HAVE made a difference.

We should remember that since the crooks own most of the networks now, our protests, get little mention, and often derision when they are mentioned.

I suggest, that we make a point of looking as much as a common citizen as possible too. When we are alligned with the green and purple hair crowd, the spiked hair/head bunch, we lose credibility.

The most severe form of learning disorders are owned by those that "already know everything."

you ask good questions

although they are somewhat out of the scope of this blog.

we all face an uphill battle on the issue of 9/11. we have been branded "conspiracy theorists' - and many of us admittedly behave in ways that encourage this label.

add to this the obvious disinformation campaign that seeks to attach us to outlandish theories - and then explores these very same theories on the History channel and mis-educates the public about what exactly this movement REALLY stands for - and ALL of our jobs get much harder.

911 Truth is about the essential american citizen's RIGHT to demand complete accountability and transparency from our government.

Period.

HOW could such a horrible thing have happened? WHO was responsible? WHO has been held accountable? WHY are we being lied to? WHY have so many facts been whitewashed and ignored? HOW did our defenses fail so universally and completely? WHO has benefited? WHO was punished?

3,000 people were killed. of COURSE there is a 911 Truth movement!!! there HAS to be. It is called: HISTORY. It is called CLARIFYING the historical record. it is called ACCOUNTABILITY. This country spent $60 million to investigate a presidential blow job - and 911 is untouchable? 3,000 people dead - and the facts on the table do not add up????

so we protested.

and they sent in the clowns spreading lies and theories and disinformation and fake activists to lead the movement off a cliff.

plane switches and holograms and missing planes.

remember the victim's families? they are still waiting for answers.

The History Channel never

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no

but they did present PEOPLE who are known disruptors to this movement - as EXPERTS representing our interests.

Funny, I didn't see them present...

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nope

nothing

The Experts

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but

what did they focus on when addressing Griffin? Voice morphing technology? faked phone calls?

did they allow Dr. Bowman - who is one of this nation's formost authorities on air defenses - time to really explain WHY the official story on failed air defenses cannot possibly be true?

suffice it to say that a growing number of people are becoming increasingly fustrated by the volume of junk science and disinformation masquarading as 911 Truth.

that's not my opinion. its just the way things are.

simply summarily dismissing this problem - as you appear to want to do - does not solve it. we need solutions - not denial.

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Who are the shills & where's the disinfo?

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