The 5 Goals of Disinformation

The 5 goals of infiltrators of the 9/11 truth movement (or any movement challenging fascism) are to: Distract, Disrupt, Divide, Discredit and Derail.

Specifically, avoid people whose actions mainly have the effect of:

* Distracting, disrupting, or derailing 9/11 truth efforts;

* Dividing the truth movement; or

* Discrediting leading 9/11 activists

To remember this list, just think of "the 5 D's of Disinformation".

This is part 2 of my effort to provide a very brief introduction to disinformation for busy people. Part 1 is here.

Big hat tip to rm, imgstacke and drbeeth for coming up with the 5 D's.

CI--a complementry resource

Great counter intelligence (CI) post at Truthaction by dicktater:

Now you have an idea on how to work all the angles when you're a target of disinformation. ;-)


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Jumbo Jets Can Not Demolish Skyscrapers.


I've been meaning to say this for a while. I wish you would change that preposterous signature claim of yours. Of course jumbo jets can demolish skyscrapers. That's an insane statement.

The question we deal with was if the planes of 9/11 could have taken down the twin towers, the 2 largest buildings int he world, specially designed to withstand the impacts of planes like that.

Ordinary skyscrapers would be demolished beyond recognition. Your statement is silly.

How do you propose

To demolish _any_ skyscraper with a jumbo jet?

Jumbo Jets Can Not Demolish Skyscrapers.

OT: please close your italics in your post

It's messing up the front page.

You might also want to consider this to solve that problem in the long term.

Taking on a dogma is always

Taking on a dogma is always a risk!
Be flexible! That's the greatest power.


One of the 5 D's is to distract.
There you go already, the 911-movement distracts the main stream opinion and in it's view it shoud thus be ignored! We try to get the opposite result, recognition!

The same is true for the movement itself. Suppose it once gets on a wrong track, then implements the 5 D's, then there is no way of improving or change direction any more !

Flexibilty, logic, evidence, witnesses, that counts!

Guidelines are not dogma

Dogma is the result of taking ANYTHING as a ridged absolute, and above question.

These 5 D's are just a tool to organize your thoughts in this type of sitch, if you don't have a model for doing so already.

No one's saying you MUST do THIS and ONLY this--this is just to help you if you need judged by your flexibile, independent opinion.

This is a problem I'm seeing a lot of lately--there's a with X, a solution is proposed to address X, and a certain group pf people, instead of helping with the solution, or proposing they're own, immediately feel they are "being told what to do". (Not saying you, neccassarily, just saying)

What's with that?

whats with that? its kind of

whats with that? its kind of true, thats whats with that. some people, the people with all the solutions i guess, really do seem to be telling other people what to do a lot more lately. or at least telling others whats best for them and what is and isnt disinfo. thanks for the help, but the thing is, it goes beyond help a lot and into character assassination, guilt by association and other tactics usually reserved for true disinfo artists. case in point? your buddy asking Kevin Barrett what political party hes going to subvert when he runs for Congress. i too think Barrett has been too accepting of obviously flawed theories, and who knows, maybe hes not just being naive and gullible and he really IS paid disinfo but he still gets his blogs posted here doesnt he? does that make disinfo for allowing his blogs? to some of your disinfo task force colleagues it does, at least based on past standards they have used for others it does. and thats the problem with how they operate and why some feel they are being "told what to do". im not saying you, neccassarily, just saying.

(i'll admit your blog on the internal politics of the 9/11 truth movement is pretty interesting though.)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I have nothing to say to you until ...

you explain this flamebait shite here:

Respond in that thread, or respond by email. But until I get an explaination for how it is even possible that you could think I can manipulate votes on this site, I have nothing to discuss with you.

my contact is turned on. if

my contact is turned on. if you have something to say or ask, e-mail me, im not gonna play games with you. one question though, when did it become about "disinfo" to you and stop being about 9/11 truth? your site is a cesspool of inside baseball, interesting as it is to read about your self importance, its really kind of creepy. didnt you just write a letter to Carol B. about her "anti-semitism" saying how "im sure you've heard of me by now etc."? whats more important Jenny? getting to the truth of 9/11 and getting a real investigation or inflating your own ego and online presence while playing "disinfo task force"?(oh, and you just may be doing more harm than good with that whole thing. driving people away with in-fighting, causing division and rampant suspicion etc. im not saying your doing it on purpose.) leave me alone, and i'll leave you alone, k mate?

(fyi, i didnt think it was possible, somebody else did and i relayed their concerns to you and you got bent out of shape. not that big of a deal.)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

You're the only one playing games.

Otherwise you would have answered this question in the other thread when I asked it-- IN A TIMELY FASHION.



If you don't, we're done. >:(

BTW: I was defending you to the mates--ask Cosmos--but that's just come to a screeching halt. Hope you're happy, because you have no one to blame but yourself...

likewise Jenny, ive defended

likewise Jenny, ive defended you in some circles as well. i didnt get in touch with you because i dont take kindly to demands. i admit i probably should have asked you privately if you were manipulating point totals instead of asking you in a thread.(the observation was made that when you show up to a thread, everyone that disagrees with you gets voted down quick while those that agree go up. maybe it just means you're popular. it really was just an innocent question on my part and not an accusation) i apologize for that. but i dont apologize or make excuses for anything else. i mean everything ive said about the disinfo task force. you and your lot may be doing more harm than good. some of you(not yourself) probably already know that though. see, thats an accusation.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA


The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them

"Ignore the Disinfo"
"Constantly attack those who critique Disinfo"

"A disinfo cop is someone who tells us what to think--that's wrong"*
"shut up disinfo cops--I have a right to tell you what you can talk about"

"The 9/11 official story is disinfo--it's an inside job."
"We should ignore disinfo"

*[straw-man: Everyone has a right to their opinion, and I have NEVER said otherwise. I believe this is an example of projection]
According to Sigmund Freud, projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings onto someone else.

you are following me around from post to post now. (says a lot about you.) you will likely be warned. you give disnfo more airtime than Fox News. that seems to be your purpose, to keep people from pushing 9/11 truth and keep them attacking each other. you are SUCH an expert on disinfo Arab. kind of suspicious how much time you spend on it and how much airtime you give it(by knocking it down of course right? right....). talk about projection.......

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

An anonymous internet person....

An anonymous internet personality telling me what disinformation is? I don't think so.

If you guys are serious about trust and creating fertile ground for truth then there is no need for any of us to hide behind anonymous names. We are activists and anyone who hides their true identity is, in my book, the most suspected as an agent of disinformation.

Now I'm not saying that everyone should post their bank accounts and socials of course. But leading 911 activists who prefer to hide their identity seems suspicious to me.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

" there is no need for any

" there is no need for any of us to hide behind anonymous names."

2973 murders on 9/11

firefighters dying of
lung disease

perps in power in the most powerful positions of the land

foreign agents who operate with impunity

terrorists operating with impunity

drug networks operating with impunity

2.5 million dead Iraqis


white phosphorous

depleted uranium

unlawful wiretapping

complete disregard for the laws

first strike nuclear policy

"unlawful enemy combatants"

Back to your statement, you're pushing the envelope of naivete. I'll keep my anonymity as anonymous as I can.

If my ideas are beyond "debunking" then that is where my credibility is. You're only as good as your last blog anyway.

"You're only as good as your last blog anyway."


We can't rely on "individuals" for 9/11 truth

"An anonymous internet personality telling me what disinformation is?"

Identity is irrelevant

The point is to think for yourself. (Who is saying it) is and should be irrelevant. You are questioning 9/11 for a reason. It's because you are questioning authority. You are questioning what the government wants you to believe. Relying on individuals to figure out the truth is either ad-hominem or appeal to authority. It shouldn't matter who says what. It should only matter WHAT the person says. It should only matter what the evidence is. Evaluating information, facts, and explanations are all that we can do.

We can't rely on authorities or individuals to give us 9/11 truth; we have to figure it out for ourselves, make our own research, and respectfully critique each other if we disagree. That's how it's done. That's all we can do.