UK Muslim Leader Speaks out on 9/11, 7/7, CFR, Trilateral Commission and "Common Purpose" by Andrew Johnson

November 3, 2007 at 11:44:52
UK Muslim Leader Speaks out on 9/11, 7/7, CFR, Trilateral Commission and "Common Purpose"
by Andrew Johnson

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UK - Birmingham Central Mosque, 30th Oct 2007 - Elias Davidsson, Icelandic Scholar and Human Rights Activist had been giving a short series of talks in the UK regarding the lack of evidence for the official story of events on 9/11 being true. Following Mr Davidsson's talk, Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque, addressed the audience regarding the context of 9/11 from both a Muslim and a wider perspective, saying that the official story of 9/11 and 7/7 was an "insult" to his intelligence.

In 2002, Mr Davidsson started research into the events of September 11, 2001 and founded the Icelandic chapter of the 9/11 truth movement. In October 2007, Mr Davidsson came to the UK and gave several talks regarding the basic lack of evidence which is available to support the official story of the 9/11 tragedy.

Mr Davidsson cited a number of examples, such as the lack of verified passenger lists for any of the planes, the lack of any CCTV footage of any of the accused hijackers in the airport terminal or boarding the flights. He additionally pointed out the lack of testimony from any airport personnel that they saw either passengers or hijackers boarding the planes. He also discussed how no boarding passes from the hijackers have been presented as evidence. Mr Davidsson discussed the issue of World Trade Centre Building 7, fell to the ground in 6.6 seconds even though there was no prior impact on the building. This was ignored by the 9/11 Commission and omitted from its 500-page report. Another issue he raised was the lack of any parts of planes being brought forward as evidence, apart from those shown in the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui in 2006 (However, Moussaoui was in prison on 9/11)

Following Mr Davidsson's lecture, Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque, was invited to comment on the subject of the 9/11 Story. He responded, "The whole saga and story of 7th July and 9/11 is totally astonishing – it doesn't make any sense. I do not question it because I am against America or England; I question it because it was an insult to my intelligence. I could not digest the information I was given – it did not make any sense."

Dr Naseem then referred to a think tank report that had stated "Researchers found radical or hate-filled books and pamphlets at a quarter of the 100 Islamic religious institutions they visited." Dr Naseem then posed the question "Who is the author of this literature?" and he pointed out that Mosques are public places, where anyone can walk in and leave material. He referred to a previous incident at his own Mosque where a woman had left some CDs on the table and that these were found to contain inflammatory material. When the material was viewed, it was found that an organisation was mentioned and so this information was promptly passed to the Police, but no action was taken.

He went on to express his concern that the media was allowing these sorts of stories to be promulgated and that there were "4 organisations running the world" – the Bilderberg group, the Trilateral Commission, McKenzie and Co Public Relations, and Common Purpose.

He stated that the Bilderberg group was a secret organisation, which holds secret "invitation only" meetings. He stated that the job of Trilateral Commission was to identify those people in power in a given country who would be willing to accept the Bilderberg's agenda for their own country. He stated that the job of the McKenzie organisation was to facilitate the policies of a leader such as Tony Blair.

Dr Naseem stated the fourth organisation – Common Purpose was "seeping through society like branches of cancer" and that to attend one of their seminars would cost £3000. He also stated that taxpayers' money was going "into the wrong pockets". He added that one of the activities which took place in the Common Purpose seminars is "brain-washing," and that Common Purpose was seeking to identify "the leaders of the future" so that they would eventually "sing from the same hymn book" - which was prepared by Bilderberg, The Trilateral Commission, McKenzie and Co. and Common Purpose". Dr Naseem said to the audience that he was mentioning these matters to "awaken" them rather than frighten them, so that "the network" of these organisations "can be broken". He said, "We have to challenge at every step of the way. We have to be vocal. We have to be articulate." He appealed to people to pass this message on to non-Muslim friends.

He also stated how he felt that Muslims, though they were affected, weren't the real target of curtailments of Civil Liberties – as they number only about 1.5 million in the UK. He pointed out some examples of non-Muslim people who had been arrested under anti-terrorism laws, such as labour party member Walter Wolfgang who was 82 years old.

In a 2nd shorter address to audience, following a question, he called again for an independent Public Enquiry into the 7th of July (2005) London Bombings, stating that if the authorities were confident of their facts, then having such an enquiry could "restore harmony to the community".

For a short video of segments from the event, use this link (note, the caption in the video has an incorrect date):

For a shorter segment of Dr Naseem's initial response to Mr Davidsson's talk, use this link

Dr Naseem was openly critical of the official story of 7/7 days after it happened:

For more information about Elias Davidsson

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Andrew Johnson: DEW / No-Planes

Andrew Johnson, who is closely linked to Judy Wood and Jim Fetzner runs the discussion board where "research" topics such as Directed Energy Topics (DEW), Mininukes at WTC Research and Media Fakery Research make it very clear that this is a disinformation orientated site.

He works with other No-Planers, for example Morgan Reynolds's and CB Brooklyn co-wrote this article with him: Going in Search of Planes in NYC.

He has also written an article on the split in Scholars for 9/11 Truth: The New “9/11 Hijackers”? which explains how he ended up being a No-Planer.

For some more info on the, rather dire, state of the movement in the uk see this thread on the forum: The UK's Big Tent:


Saved me the effort of pointing this out ...

Article does not mention "NO PLANES". It was about

Mr Davidsson and Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque.

Yes, but...

The problem is that Andrew Johnson has zero credibility so it's hard to take anything he writes seriously.

Last week Dr Naseem questioned whether Muslims were behind the L

Last Week: Saturday, 6 August, 2005

Mosque chairman sparks fresh row

Mohammed Naseem

Chairman's comments
A Muslim leader says there are "similarities" between new powers to tackle Islamist extremism and Hitler's demonisation of the Jews.

Tony Blair wants measures to exclude foreigners who preach hate and to close places where terrorism is condoned.

Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque, said: "I see the similarities...I am saying these are dangerous times."

Last week Dr Naseem questioned whether Muslims were behind the London bombs.

He [Hitler]...gradually created a bogey identity, that is, the Jewish people, and posed to the Germans that they were a threat to the country
Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of Birmingham Central Mosque

He made the comments after terror suspect Yasin Hassan Omar was arrested in the Small Heath area of the city in connection with 21 July attempted bombings.

Birmingham MP Khalid Mahmood called for Dr Naseem to resign after the comments, insisting he had brought his role into disrepute but the chairman retaliated by saying 4,000 worshippers had voted for him to stay.

The MP said Dr Naseem's latest comments "played into the hands of the far right" and he described his behaviour as "diabolical".

He told BBC News: "It just gets worse.

"It is outrageous and really detrimental to community relations.

'Just as arrogant'

"It is bizarre that he can get away with it and I think he is playing into the hands of the far right who will use this as a further weapon to the people of the Muslim community.

"The way he has treated the community is diabolical. I saw him on Thursday and he was still just as arrogant as he was before."

Following the anti-terrorism proposals unveiled on Friday Dr Naseem told the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme that he saw "similarities" between Mr Blair's approach to Britain's Muslim community and Hitler's demonisation of Jews early in his time as German Chancellor.

"I think he is not very wise in the way he did it. I am saying he is not handling the situation wisely, because he says one thing at one time and another at another," he said.

'Dangerous times'

"He [Hitler] was democratically elected and gradually he created a bogey identity, that is, the Jewish people, and posed to the Germans that they were a threat to the country.

"On that basis, he started a process of elimination of Jewish people.

"I see the similarities. Everything moves step by step. I am saying these are dangerous times and we must take note of this."

He added that the measures proposed by Mr Blair would be "appropriate" if there was evidence that foreign nationals were in the country fomenting terrorism.

'Abusing hospitality'

"A government is entitled to take measures to safeguard the country and the nation, but the problem is that the government speaks with so many tongues that one is confused.

"Up to last week, we were given to believe that the terrorists were home-grown, 'clean-skinned' and Muslim.

"The measures being taken are against those who come to this country who are asylum-seekers and they are supposed to be misusing or abusing hospitality.

"Mr Blair told the Cabinet last week that people blame anything but faith, including poverty, discrimination and the war on terror for the bombings, so the message seemed to be that they are blaming everything else, but they should be blaming faith."

Dr Naseem stood for the Respect-Unity Coalition in Birmingham Perry Barr during the recent general election in Mr Mahmood's constituency and received 2,173 votes.

As part of the anti-terrorism measures unveiled on Friday, Mr Blair announced a ban on two radical Islamist organisations, Hizb ut-Tahrir and al-Muhajiroun, even though their leadership insist that they do not advocate violence in the UK.


That article is a repost from the BBC from August 2005, but with an extra sentance added at the end:

As part of the anti-terrorism measures unveiled on Friday, Mr Blair announced a ban on two radical Islamist organisations, Hizb ut-Tahrir and al-Muhajiroun, even though their leadership insist that they do not advocate violence in the UK.

The Internet Archive copies don't have this addition...*/

I guess the BBC removed it becaue it's not true (assuming that you copied it from the BBC) -- Hizb ut-Tahrir haven't been banned.

Regarding al-Muhajiroun, Nafeez Ahmed has said: "Although al-Muhajiroun and its successor organizations have been repeatedly proscribed by the government, these measures have been wholly ineffective. The network remains fully intact and continues to operate relatively unimpeded across the

This is, of course, somewhat of a tangent...

"Article does not mention "NO PLANES""...

I'm aware that the article doesn't mention "NO PLANES" but it ends with a link to Andrew Johnson's site which clearly does! Haven't you looked at the front page of this awful site?

No, I read the article and followed links to Dr Mohammed Naseem,

Dr Mohammed Naseem and got a feel for the thinking of the British Muslim Community and what is going on to demonize them.

I don't think I will look at the "awful site".

Without the author's name and link to his site this would have been worthy news for all who want to grasp the big picture.

I once posted the video of Paula Zahn talking Truth as anti semitic and caught hell for that although it clearly showed the
mind controlling tactics "they" were resorting to.

I'd look at the link if I were you...

and consider this a learning experience. Because it's bad, and this is excactly the way people get caught up in shite: sloppy research and carelessness(that's not all directed at you, btw)

Mind, we all make one off mistakes; just learn from this one: if you put a link in your blog, KNOW where it is going!


repost removed

For one,

I appreciate the content of Joe's posting, which regards a prominent Muslim questioning the official story of 9/11. Kudos for that, Joe.

There are approx. 1.5 Billion Muslims -- and roughly 80% question 9/11 (we are told - Kevin Barrett). Let's NOT throw away this great resource of people who are "on our side" (e.g. because of an errant link) and who could become significant allies in pursuit of truth, justice and peace!

That's a lot of people -- my question is, how can we join together with them?

The problem is...

That people like Andrew Johnson (you must remember him from the Scholars split...) and Kevin Barret are associated with far too much no-planes related nonsense, we really need to move on from all that...

If you want to speak to someone about Muslims and 9/11, and I think this is a very important subject, I'd suggest that Nafeez Ahmed would be the best person to speak to: (I'm thinking about your recent interview with Kevin Barret...).

"That's a lot of people --

"That's a lot of people -- my question is, how can we join together with them?"

I agree with your goals here--but we need to leave "baggage" behind when we're reaching out to people, or we're likely to do more harm than good.

The frying pan/fire cliche comes to mind... ;-)