Al-Qaeda Kingpin: I Trained 9/11 Hijackers

Here is Luai Sakra's entry from the "Who Is? Archives." - Jon

From his Turkish jail, a senior terrorist claims a key role in atrocities around the world

Source: timesonline.co.uk

Chris Gourlay and Jonathan Calvert
November 25, 2007

IN a small windowless cell lit by a single light bulb, Louai al-Sakka sits isolated from the world and fellow inmates for 24 hours a day.

His concrete box is in the bowels of Kandira, a high-security F-type prison 60 miles east of Istanbul, which was built to house Turkey’s most dangerous criminals.

The prison has been criticised by human rights groups such as Amnesty International. The guards control everything, including the cell’s light switch.

Sakka’s only visitor is Osman Karahan, a lawyer who shares his fervent support for militant Islamic jihad.

Since being convicted as an Al-Qaeda bomb plotter last year, Sakka has decided to reveal his alleged role in some of the key plots of recent years, providing a potential insight into the unanswered questions surrounding them. His story is also one of a globetrotting terrorist in an organisation that is truly multinational.

He is an enigma and, despite his involvement in three terrorist outrages involving British citizens, he is virtually unknown in this country.

By his own account he is a senior Al-Qaeda operative who was at the forefront of the insurgency in Iraq, took part in the beheading of Briton Kenneth Bigley and helped train the 9/11 bombers. He has been jailed in connection with the bombing of the British consulate in Istanbul.

Certainly, the intelligence services have shown a keen interest in the 34-year-old Syrian who says he was in Iraq alongside Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the notorious insurgent who was killed last year in a United States air-strike.

But, as with many things in the world of Al-Qaeda, there might be smoke and mirrors. Some experts believe that Sakka could be overstating his importance to the group, possibly to lay a false track for western agencies investigating his terrorist colleagues.

Over the past three weeks The Sunday Times has conducted a series of interviews with Sakka through his lawyer. We were given a number of documents including a memoir in Arabic of his life.

So who is the mysterious Al-Qaeda operative in the concrete cell and what do his claims tell us about the terrorist network and his role within it?

He was travelling under the Turkish name Erkan Ozer – one of his 16 false identities – when he was arrested in the southeastern town of Diyarbakir in August 2005. His downfall was as a result of a nighttime explosion that caused a fire in his apartment a week earlier. When fire-fighters reached the blaze they found a do-it-yourself bomb factory with vats of hydrogen, bags of aluminium powder and 6kg of plastic explosives.

Sakka had been planning to sink Israeli cruise ships off the Turkish coast using motorised dinghies. Despite having plastic surgery to disguise his face, he was easily identified by the Turkish authorities.

Police later discovered documents linking him to the Istanbul suicide bombings that killed at least 27 people after trucks exploded outside the British consulate, the HSBC bank and two synagogues. The court indictment described him as “a senior member of the Al-Qaeda terrorist organisation tasked with special high-level missions”. It said he had met Osama Bin Laden, who had told him to organise attacks in Turkey.

But was this all? Last week his lawyer claimed his scope was much wider. “He was the nnumber one networker for Al-Qaeda in Europe, Iran, Turkey and Syria,” Karahan said.

According to the documents provided by Karahan, Sakka grew up in the ancient city of Aleppo, Syria, the son of a wealthy factory owner, and followed in his father’s footsteps by becoming the general manager of a company that sold one of Syria’s most popular washing-up liquids. But he was drawn to the Islamic cause from a young age, according to his memoir.

His politics were shaped by the conflict between President Hafez al-Assad, the former Syrian dictator, and the Muslim Brotherhood, an underground Islamic group. When Sakka was nine, Assad quelled an uprising by the brotherhood in the town of Hama by killing an estimated 10,000 people.

“Like any other Muslim boy he was deeply affected by these events,” says his memoir.

When the Bosnian war opened a new front for jihadists in the early 1990s, Sakka left his job and headed for the conflict. He stayed in Turkey initially and established the “mujaheddin service office”, which provided medical support for Bosnia and later the two Chechen wars.

It soon became clear that more than medical help was needed. Sakka set up intensive physical training programmes in the Yalova mountain resort area, near Istanbul, to prepare the scores of young men heading for the conflicts. The memoir claims the volunteers came from Europe, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, the Gulf, North Africa and South America.

The Chechens needed trained fighters. Sakka was telephoned by Ibn al-Khattab, the late militia leader controlling the foreign fighters against the Russians. Khattab requested that Sakka’s trainees should be sent on to Afghanistan for military training because “conditions are tough”.

This brought Sakka into contact with Abu Zubaydah, a high-ranking Al-Qaeda member, who ran a large terrorist training camp near the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Sakka was later to be sentenced in ab-sentia for involvement in the foiled Jordanian millennium bomb attacks in 2000 along with Zubaydah.

One of Sakka’s chief roles was to organise passports and visas for the volunteers to make their way to Afghanistan through Pakistan. His ability to keep providing high-quality forged papers made Turkey a main hub for Al-Qaeda movements, his lawyer says. The young men came to Turkey pretending to be on holiday and Sakka’s false papers allowed them to “disappear” overseas.

Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.

But a bigger plot was developing. In late 1999, Karahan says,a group of four young Saudi students went to Turkey to prepare for fighting in Chechnya. “They wanted to be good Muslims and join the jihad during their holidays,” he said.

They had begun a path that was to end with the September 11 attacks on America in 2001. They were: Ahmed and Hamza al-Ghamdi who hijacked the plane that crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center; their companion Saeed al-Ghamdi whose plane crashed in a Pennsylvanian field; and Nawaf al-Hazmi who died in the Pentagon crash.

They undertook Sakka’s physical training programme in the mountains and later were joined by two of the other would-be hijackers: Majed Moqed, who also perished in the Pentagon crash, and Satam al-Suqami, who was in the first plane that hit the north tower.

Moqed and Suqami had been hand-picked by Al-Qaeda leaders in Saudi Arabia specifically for the twin towers operation, Sakka says, and were en route to Afghanistan. Sakka persuaded the other four to go to Afghanistan after plans to travel to Chechnya were aborted because of problems crossing the border. “Sakka [told Zubaydah] he liked the four men and recommended them,” said Karahan.

Before leaving, all six received intensive training together, forming a cell led by Suqami, which was similar to the Hamburg group run by Mohammed Atta, another ringleader in the 9/11 attacks.

At one point, Sakka claims the entire group were arrested by police in Yalova after their presence raised suspicions. They were interrogated for a day but eventually released because there was no evidence of wrongdoing.

Some of Sakka’s account is corroborated by the US government’s 9/11 Commission. It

found evidence that four of the hijackers – whom Sakka says he trained – had initially intended to go to Chechnya from Turkey but the border into Georgia was closed. Sakka had prepared fake visas for the group’s travel to Pakistan and arranged their flights from Istanbul’s Ataturk airport. The group of four went to the al-Farouq camp near Kandahar and the other two to Khaldan, near Kabul, an elite camp for Al-Qaeda fighters.

When Moqed and Suqami returned to Turkey, Sakka employed his skills as a forger to scrub out the Pakistani visa stamps from their passports. This would help the Arab men enter the United States without attracting suspicion that they had been to a training camp.

Sakka’s lawyer said: “Just like there is money laundering, there is also terrorist laundering and Turkey was the centre of this.”

According to Sakka, Nawaf al-Hazmi was a veteran operative who went on to pilot the plane that hit the Pentagon. Although this is at odds with the official account, which says the plane was flown by another hijacker, it is plausible and might answer one of the mysteries of 9/11.

The Pentagon plane performed a complex spiral dive into its target. Yet the pilot attributed with flying the plane “could not fly at all” according to his flight instructors in America. Hazmi, on the other hand, had mixed reviews from his instructors but they did remark on how “adept” he was on his first flight.

Paul Thompson, author and 9/11 researcher, said Sakka’s account was credible. “I think there is a lot more about the history of the hijackers that needs to be found out and Sakka’s claim may resume the debate about just how much was known about them before 9/11,” he said.

Sakka’s mountain trainees, meanwhile, had spread out to a number of countries where they carried out terrorist attacks. He claims this is why he was charged with a string of crimes committed by his associates. He was given a 15-year sentence in Jordan for the millennium bomb attacks, the death penalty for an an assassination attempt on Syria’s military intelligence chief and has been charged in Saudi Arabia for an explosives plot.

In effect, he had become a free-lance operative aiding a series of groups without necessarily agreeing with their targets. His links with Al-Qaeda, however, remained strong after the 9/11 attacks.

His lawyer says the Al-Qaeda leadership valued a number of his skills. “But most important,” he added, “was that Sakka was incredibly secretive. Al-Qaeda tested him many times, but he never once revealed a secret.”

The US invasion of Afghani-stan in late 2001 threw many of the Al-Qaeda camps into disarray. Many of the group’s fighters are thought to have fled across the border to seek safety in Iran.

According to Sakka’s account, one of those fighters was Zar-qawi. The precise movements of the Jordanian, who is thought to have been wounded fighting alongside the Taliban in Afghani-stan, have always been a matter of speculation.

Sakka’s initial role in the insurgency was to help foreign fighters enter Iraq. He took his family to live in Falluja, which was emerging as the hub of the foreign fighters’ resistance to the occupying forces.

He later told a court: “We held out for 70 days. They destroyed vast quarters of the city. It wouldn’t have been possible for them to enter before doing so. We ran out of ammunition and had to pull out.”

A month before the fall of Falluja, Sakka claims that he was part of the group that killed Kenneth Bigley, the British hostage. He describes himself as the “diplomat” who negotiated on behalf of the insurgents and says he presided over the court that resolved to execute him. He says Bigley’s body is buried in Falluja with his passport and confession video.

Today Sakka remains a controversial figure. The British Foreign Office says it has interviewed Sakka in jail about the Bigley murder. He provided a map of where Bigley was buried but the Foreign Office says they could not find the body. In Turkey, police sources claim Sakka may have become clinically insane or perhaps be an egoma-niac who has overstated his role.

The Sunday Times has spoken to a number of Al-Qaeda experts who say that many elements of his story ring true, but they are impossible to verify conclusively. Evan Kohlmann, an investigator for the 9/11 Finding Answers Foundation, said: “When [Sakka] was in Falluja there were several high-ranking Turkish guys there. It is also true that for a number of conflicts that Al-Qaeda has been involved in, Turkey is a very important through stop and a lot of fighters have travelled through there with the assistance of local people.”

Swift justice
Gordon Brown’s plans to double the detention period for terror suspects face further opposition with a report showing that America needs just 48 hours to file charges in Al-Qaeda cases.

The report by Justice, the human rights group, will say this week that Brown’s plans to extend precharge detention to 56 days are untenable.

It says: “No western democracy faces a greater threat of terrorism than the US. Despite this, the proven ability of US law enforcement to charge suspects in complex terror plots within 48 hours of arrest without resort to exceptional measures shows that UK proposals to extend precharge detention are both unjustified and unnecessary.”

The report emphasises the importance of FBI phone tap evidence and Brown is considering whether such intercept evidence should be allowed in Britain.

Eric Metcalfe, the Justice report’s author, said: “From Guantanamo Bay to rendition to torture, the US has done a lot of things badly wrong in the fight against terrorism.

“But in the rush to extend precharge detention here in the UK, we sometimes overlook what they are doing right.”

Radio support
AN Islamic radio station has been broadcasting good-luck messages to some of Britain’s most dangerous terrorists.

Wellwishers were urged by extremist websites to use Radio Ramadan to send their messages of support to inmates at Belmarsh high-security prison in southeast London, including Abu Hamza al-Masri, the cleric serving seven years for inciting murder, and the failed 21/7 London bombers.

One extremist website, Islambase.co.uk, said in a forum that the “brothers in Belmarsh” had access to radios and listened to the station every night. A posting on the forum read: “The messages have been received in Belmarsh.”

Tariq Abbasi, who was responsible for the station, confirmed that messages were aired for inmates. He had a licence issued by Ofcom to broadcast from the Greenwich Islamic Centre in Plumstead during Ramadan, which ended six weeks ago.

So Hani Hanjour...

Didn't pilot Flight 77 as has been indicated by Luai Sakra. An alleged CIA informant that "received a large sum of money" from the CIA according to Zaman. I'm sure there are people in the movement that will say, "This is just a story to account for the impossible maneuver that Flight 77 made." To me, it's just another indication that we don't know what the hell happened on 9/11, and we need a new investigation.

Very simply, whether you think there are just some unanswered questions, or whether or not you think they used the events of 9/11, or whether or not you think they had a hand in it, we can not go on not knowing. There needs to be accountability. At ALL levels of Government. Period. End of story.

This Government has made me a victim of Conspiracy Theories, because they haven't answered fully, or allowed anyone to ask the true questions of September 11th, and that's what I'm asking from you today. For exposure. We are not crazy. We have questions. We demand answers. [..] We're asking for a new investigation into the events of September 11th, and this time, a truly bipartisan, global, with families invested from the beginning, middle, and throughout the end. - Donna Marsh O'Connor

Update from Paul Thompson...

While this article is interesting, what's REALLY interesting is that Luai Sakra/Sakka may well have been an informant for the CIA and Syrian intelligence before 9/11, and appears to have at least told Syrian intelligence about the 9/11 attacks one day before they happened. In 2004, Der Speigel reported, "Western investigators accept Sakra’s claims, by and large, since they coincide with known facts. On September 10, 2001, he tipped off the Syrian secret service... that terrorist attacks were about to occur in the United States. The evidently well-informed al-Qaeda insider even named buildings as targets, and airplanes as weapons. The Syrians passed on this information to the CIA—but only after the attacks."

However, in former CIA Director George Tenet's book published earlier this year, Tenet mentioned that on September 10, 2001, "a source we were jointly running with a Middle Eastern country went to see his foreign handler and basically told him that something big was about to go down. The handler dismissed him." Tenet claims the warning was "frightening but without specificity." This perfectly fits with descriptions of Sakra (except that Sakra claims the warning was more specific than Tenet does). If so, and if Sakra's claims are correct, this would mean that Sakra was training some of the 9/11 hijackers around the same time he started working as a CIA informant! It makes one wonder exactly what the CIA knew about the 9/11 attacks before they occurred.

I've done a lot of research on Sakra and in fact I'm quoted in the London Times piece. You can see my timeline entries on him here.

Hopefully this will just be the first of several articles about Sakra that go into some other things about him, such as his links to intelligence agencies. While Sakra has some pretty amazing claims, the known facts about him are pretty amazing as well.

Edit: By the way, all of the individuals voting this blog down who think they know exactly what happened on 9/11, and who think they know which information should and shouldn't be researched, I have news for you. You have no idea what happened on 9/11.


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i do know that 911 wasn't

i do know that 911 wasn't pulled off by crazy arabs from the middle east!!!!

it sure seem like you are trying very hard to pin 911 on arabs even though you know that they couldnt have done it!!!

what do you hope to gain from this type of crap??? more hate for arabs??

Actually...

You don't know a damn thing. You don't know whether or not there were hijackers aboard those planes (even though information exists that says there was). You don't know if they were Muslim or not (even though information exists that says they were). The one thing you obviously do NOT know is that IF Muslims were involved, that DOES NOT mean we should hate all Muslims. Just as IF Americans were involved, we shouldn't hate all Americans.

You think you know things you really don't. After 5 years of researching 9/11, the one thing I KNOW is that we were lied to, and that those who lied to us, benefitted the most from the attacks.

However, do try and keep trying to paint me as someone not seeking the truth about 9/11, as someone not seeking accountability for 9/11, and someone not seeking justice for the 9/11 attacks. I know it makes you feel really special.


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Sakra.

I love how the Times completely omits mention of Sakra's alleged CIA links. Sakra is a typical example of "al Qaeda". Kinda crazy like Zacarias Moussaoui, but a high-level player like Ali Mohammed or Omar Said Sheikh. Sakra, Mohammed and Sheikh all have alleged (in Mohammed's case proven) links to Western Intelligence agencies that should make even the True Believer in the Official Fairy Tale stop and think for a moment.

Nafeez Ahmed gives a good analysis of Sakra here; (BTW -- MUCH more at link)

http://www.gnn.tv/B12624

Sakra’s description of al-Qaeda contradicts entirely the official narrative. But he went even further than that. Zaman reported incredulously the most surprising elements of Sakra’s candid revelations during his four-day interrogation at Istanbul Anti-Terror Department Headquarters: “Amid the smoke from the fortuitous fire emerged the possibility that al-Qaeda may not be, strictly speaking, an organization but an element of an intelligence agency operation.” As a result of Sakra’s statements:

“Turkish intelligence specialists agree that there is no such organization as al-Qaeda. Rather, Al-Qaeda is the name of a secret service operation. The concept ‘fighting terror’ is the background of the ‘lowintensity- warfare’ conducted in the mono-polar world order. The subject of this strategy of tension is named as ‘al-Qaeda’.

... Sakra, the fifth most senior man in Osama bin Ladin’s al-Qaeda… has been sought by the secret services since 2000. The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) interrogated him twice before. Following the interrogation CIA offered him employment. He also received a large sum of money by CIA... in 2000 the CIA passed intelligence about Sakra through a classified notice to Turkey, calling for the Turkish National Security Organization (MIT) to capture him. MIT caught Sakra in Turkey and interrogated him…

Sakra was [later] sought and caught by Syrian al-Mukhabarat as well. Syria too offered him employment. Sakra eventually became a triple agent for the secret services… Turkish security officials, interrogating a senior al- Qaeda figure for the first time, were thoroughly confused about what they discovered about al-Qaeda. The prosecutor too was surprised26.”

According to Sakra then, himself a paid CIA recruit, al-Qaeda is less a coherent centralized organization than a loose association of mujahideen often mobilized under the influence of Western secret services. His own lack of traditional Islamic piety at a senior level within al-Qaeda further discredits the widespread perception of al-Qaeda as a truly Islamist Salafist group.

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These are genuine human beings that are being bounced around like pinballs, serving agendas that they have the merest inkling of understanding... for the most part. Patsy? Sure. Double-agent? I doubt it. Triple Agent?

BULLSHIT.

Those CIA links are probably why

I haven't seen this story in American media yet.

hm...

Good post and good comments. I don't know why the heck this got voted down.

Bush's GOD is Gold, Oil, and Drugs.
http://www.fightingforgod.com

Probably...

Just an attempt to piss me off. Or, people think there is absolutely no indication that hijackers were aboard those planes that day, and this article is "disinformation."

With regard to what Reprehensor posted about "Strategy Of Tension", I suggest watching this, and reading this and this.


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Voting in the place is a bit random

Daniel Hopsicker provides additional information:
http://www.madcowprod.com/02212006.html

A group of wackos around here

vote down everything Jon posts.

Actually, the U.S. Military Trained the 9/11 "Hijackers"

9/11 "Hijackers" Trained on U.S. Military Bases

James Redford
Saturday, February 24, 2007

In original reports (i.e., not simply going off the reports of other news agencies) by Newsweek, the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, the Washington Post, Associated Press, and Gannett News Service, the below accused 9/11 hijackers have been named as having trained at U.S. military bases:

- Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93)
- Ahmed Alnami (United Airlines 93)
- Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175)
- Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175)
- Mohamed Atta (American Airlines 11)
- Abdulaziz Alomari (American Airlines 11)

Below are some of the details from said reports:

- Pensacola Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking U.S. Navy source said that Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmad Alnami (both United Airlines 93) and Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residences at 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. Saeed Alghamdi listed the address on two different car registrations. Ahmad Alnami and Ahmed Alghamdi listed the address on their driver licenses. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi attended. The Washington Post further reported that Ahmed Alnami and Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residence at the same address.

- Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking Pentagon official said one of the named hijackers attended. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93) graduated from the Defense Language Institute English Language Center at the base. The Los Angeles Times reported that a defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had attended.

- Maxwell-Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking Pentagon official said one of the named hijackers attended the Air War College. The Washington Post reported that Mohamed Atta (American Airlines 11) graduated from the International Officers School. Gannett News Service reported that Air Force spokesman Col. Ken McClellan said that Mohammed Atta attended the International Officer's School. The Los Angeles Times reported that a defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had attended the Air War College.

- The Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center at the Presidio of Monterey in Monterey, California: the New York Times and Gannett News Service reported that Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93) attended.

- USAF School of Aerospace Medicine at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas: The Washington Post reported that Abdulaziz Alomari (American Airlines 11) graduated from the school. Gannett News Service reported that Abdulaziz Alomari attended.

U.S. government officals later claimed that these individuals who trained on these U.S. military bases were probably different people from the hijackers with the same names (even though high-level anonymous U.S. military sources told these various news agencies with certainty that these were the same individuals as the named hijackers). It was also vaguely stated that some of the biographical details didn't match exactly for some of the named individuals, although the U.S. government has never specified the differences or offered any evidence of these claims. Notably, none of these named U.S. military trainees have ever come forward to clear up the association of their names with those of the purported hijackers, and the U.S. government refuses to release any information about these supposedly differrent individuals.

It's as if none of these supposedly different individuals with the same names even exist. That doesn't make any sense, unless they are not different individuals from the named hijackers, in which case even if they were still alive they wouldn't likely be eager to come forward, nor would the U.S. government be eager to present details as to where they can be found.

Below are the articles referred to in the above:

"Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases: The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI," George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry, Newsweek, September 15, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20010917023145/http://www.msnbc.com/news/6295...
http://prisonplanet.com/alleged_hijackers_may_trained_us_bases.html

"Suspected Hijackers: 19 Quiet Lives That Shattered the World; Inquiry: 'Nice,' 'normal' guys had few belongings but access to lots of cash. Tantalizing clues show path to destruction.," H.G. Reza, Evan Halper and Lisa Getter, Los Angeles Times, September 15, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20030812100412/http://www.latimes.com/news/na...

"Shared Names for Hijackers," New York Times, September 15, 2001 http://billstclair.com/911timeline/2001/nyt091501e.html
http://www.wanttoknow.info/010915nytimes

"2nd Witness Arrested; 25 Held for Questioning," Guy Gugliotta and David S. Fallis, Washington Post, September 16, 2001; Page A29 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=nation/sp...

"Reconstructing the hijackers' last days: Unusual leads surface; links to bin Laden found," Guy Gugliotta, Washington Post, September 16, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20011024161527/http://www.delawareonline.com/...

"Rumsfeld says the fight against terrorists will be unconventional, long-lasting," Robert Burns, Associated Press (AP), September 16, 2001 http://www.tennessean.com/special/worldtrade/events/archives/01/08/08673...
http://detnews.com/2001/nation/0109/16/nation-295698.htm
http://6news.ljworld.com/section/diary_091601/story/66525
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2001/sep/16/rumsfeld_says_the/
http://web.archive.org/web/20041001123911/http://www.ljworld.com/section...

"Ashcroft asks Congress for expanded police powers as manhunt continues," Ana Radelat, Gannett News Service, September 17, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20050205160603/http://www.summeroftruth.org/m...

"Pensacola NAS link faces more scrutiny: Senator seeks answers on hijackers ties to Navy base," Larry Wheeler, Scott Streater and Ginny Graybiel, Pensacola News Journal, September 17, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20010923193829/http://www.pensacolanewsjourna...

"Doubt about the identities of the hijackers grows," Ana Radelat and Mike Madden, Gannett News Service, September 20, 2001 http://greenvilleonline.com/news/2001/09/20/2001092012469.htm

"Pentagon Lied: Terrorists Trained at U.S. Bases," Daniel Hopsicker, MadCowMorningNews, Issue No. 6, October 14, 2001 http://www.madcowprod.com/issue06.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20011124110050/http://www.madcowprod.com/inde...

Chapter 11, "'Saudi Prince' Mohamed Atta?," in Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta & the 9-11 Cover-Up in Florida by Daniel Hopsicker (Walterville, Oregon: TrineDay, 2004) http://www.american-buddha.com/911.welcometoterrorlandhop6.htm

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Further Documentation

For more documentation on the purported hijackers which clearly demonstrates that they were not Muslim extremists but did cocaine, hired prostitutes, drank alcohol, partied hard, etc., see the below post by me. It also gets into the fact that the supposed hijackers obviously knew that they had protection from the highest levels of the U.S. government and repeatedly went out of their way to draw attention to themselves as crazed, potential terrorists, as if to build a "legend" backstory. Additionally covered is the fact that the many FBI agents attempting to investigate these supposed hijackers were repeatedly and consistently blocked and ordered not to investigate these supposed hijackers, despite forceful protestations from said FBI agents that terrorist attacks were going to happen.

The below post by me contains the November 10, 2003 article "September 11--Islamic Jihad or Another Northwoods?" by Tim Howells, Ph.D., which is a very good, short introduction to just some of the more damning mainstream major media articles and U.S. government primary documentation which proves up one side and down the other that the 9/11 attacks and the following anthrax attacks were a Hegelian dialectical PsyOp staged by the U.S. government as a pretext in order to obtain more power and control. I append my own additional endnotes at the conclusion of Dr. Howells' article, in order to add further mainstream documentation.

"The U.S. Government Staged the 9/11 Attacks," James Redford, soc.college (et alibi), Message-ID: ttj0d09ofjefrfgapi44ifpgu6lf2vi1h7@4ax.com , June 16, 2004 http://groups.google.com/group/soc.college/msg/cdb2f90b15ea3233?dmode=so...

For much, much more hardcore documentation on government-staged terrorism, see my below post:

"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," TetrahedronOmega, September 30, 2005 http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth

The above post by me gets into the September 1999 Russian apartment building terror-bombing campain staged by the Russian government's FSB, and also the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, among other examples of government-staged false-flag terrorism. Indeed, provided therein one can find links to download audio recordings of FBI undercover agent Emad A. Salem in conversation with his FBI handler, Special Agent John Anticev (recorded unbeknownst to him), wherein Salem admits a number of times to building, with supervision from the FBI and the District Attorney of New York, the bomb that exploded in the North Tower (Tower One) of the World Trade Center on February 26, 1993.

Hopefully...

... the Sunday Times will pursue this story and we will get more from Sakra.

Not so sure about Nawaf Alhazmi flying the Pentagon plane, although we will see, but some of the hijackers being arrested in Turkey is real interesting. I wonder if Sakra knows who was flying the other planes and how he knows this.

Absolutely...

Flight 77 is the least interesting piece of this story. I just finished re-watching the BBC movie about Gladio to re-familiarize myself with the idea of "Strategy Of Tension." It certainly makes sense that "Al-Qaeda" is a form of it.


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Smoke and Mirrors

"By his own account he is a senior Al-Qaeda operative who was at the forefront of the insurgency in Iraq"

Uh, yeah. This smells like a feeble attempt to pump some new life into fast-dying Al-Qaeda myth while conflating The Base (ie the Pentagon's network of faux-terrorist stooges) with the "insurgency" in Iraq. I'm surprised people still swallow this twaddle.

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In antiquity...slaves were, in all honesty, called slaves. In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners. -- Bakunin

True...

The Times played it VERY safe with this article. As Reprehensor alluded to. However, if you read about Luai Sakra you will see that he was a CIA informant/agent that allegedly received "large sums of money" from the CIA, allegedly trained 4 of the 9/11 hijackers, possibly has knowledge that says Hani Hanjour was not the pilot of Flight 77, and ultimately, gives us yet another indication that we have no idea what happened on that day, and we need a new investigation.

All in all, I would say this is a "newsworthy" story.

Also, Luai Sakra is associated with a story that says, "Turkish intelligence specialists agree that there is no such organization as al-Qaeda. Rather, Al-Qaeda is the name of a secret service operation. The concept “fighting terror” is the background of the “low-intensity-warfare” conducted in the mono-polar world order. The subject of this strategy of tension is named as “al-Qaeda.

That's good stuff.


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Sakra background

There is an entry for him at Paul Thompson's timeline, it includes "... Late 1999-2000: Alleged CIA Informant Said to Train Six 9/11 Hijackers in Turkey. In 2007, the London Times will report that imprisoned al-Qaeda leader Luai Sakra claims that he trained six of the 9/11 hijackers in Turkey. Sakra allegedly had links to the CIA and Syrian intelligence before 9/11 (see 2000 and September 10, 2001) and also allegedly was in contact with 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta before 9/11 (see September 2000-July 24, 2001)."

This might help explain why the Commission 'concluded' that the "U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately, the question is of little practical signficance." A form of willful blindness, an attempt to avoid looking at yourself in the mirror.

Much more to learn about the veracity/significance of this fellow, but yes, this is newsworthy.

"Also, Luai Sakra is

"Also, Luai Sakra is associated with a story that says, "Turkish intelligence specialists agree that there is no such organization as al-Qaeda. Rather, Al-Qaeda is the name of a secret service operation. The concept “fighting terror” is the background of the “low-intensity-warfare” conducted in the mono-polar world order. The subject of this strategy of tension is named as “al-Qaeda.”

Agree here. It's important to add these qualifications to "Al-Qaeda kingpin" type stories lest we unwittingly bolster the Al-Qaeda-as-rogue network myth rather than shatter it, as is our intent.

With respect Gladio, the excellent BBC documentary on the subject includes interviews with former CIA big whigs who took part in the operation. When challenged on the bombings etc. carried out by their subordinates in Europe they fall back on the same excuse currently being offered by people like Peter Lance for the activities of Bin Laden, Ali Mohammed and Co. -- they went "rogue". They became "double" or "tripple" agents in defiance of their paymasters in Langley. Upon scrutiny the excuse holds no water, but (as evidenced by Lance) it's apparently good enough to satisfy people who would rather give the benefit of the doubt to their government than face up to the dark truth.

Other avenues of inquiry on 911: (war games and CD, for instance) offer no such fall-back positions. Just something to keep in mind.

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Didn't title/write the article. You can bet your ass if I did, all of that other interesting information they left out would be mentioned. My title would probably be, "Paid CIA Informant/Agent Trained Six 9/11 Hijackers, Claims 77 Not Flown By Hanjour."


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Sure they do...

How about, "you're insane", "you're a crackpot", "you're a nutjob?"

I've heard that quite a lot with regard to the war games and CD.

Does that mean I don't think they are interesting avenues of inquiry? Do you think that if pertinent information regarding the wargames or CD came out, I wouldn't post it? The bottom line is, many in the 9/11 Truth Movement have theories about what happened that day, and some hold those theories as gospel, and anything that is posted that doesn't coincide with that theory, is bashed with words like "dubious." The fact of the matter is, no one in this movement knows exactly what happened on 9/11. I am not going to ignore what I see as pertinent information regarding the attacks.


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agreed 100%. It can't get much more dubious than this.