Joel Hirschhorn, Laurie Dobson on 9/11 Truth and Elections Today on GCN

Ph.D. metallurgical engineer & 9/11 truth supporter Joel Hirschhorn http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html#Hirschhorn, and 9/11 truth senatorial candidate Laurie Dobson http://www.dobsonforsenate.com will be my guests today on Dynamic Duo, 4-6 pm CT, http://www.gcnlive.com Network 4.

Hirschhorn will be the first hour guest, followed by Dobson the second hour.

We'll be talking about the 2008 elections--and Hirschhorn and Dobson are both arguing against the "lesser evil" mentality. Hirschhorn has written several recent op-eds on the elections including:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/629139/god_bless_ralph_nader.html

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/615153/delusional_hope_the_obama_rapture.html

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Hirschhorn is interesting....

Joel Hirschhorn has some ideas, but I've heard an Article V Convention, would be a mistake? The fascists would be simply provided an opportunity to rewrite the Consiitution?

Quote from online:

"Hirschhorn advocates a Second American Revolution, beginning with an Article V Convention to propose constitutional amendments."

...don't believe them!

good question

I brought that up with him in the third segment of the show. I think there are legitimate arguments on both sides of the Article V debate.
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GCN owned by ABC?

I don't think so...

The spirituallysmart.com link looks like the kind of stuff that gives conspiracy theorists a bad name.

If the CIA's funding GCN, they aren't giving enough for Ted to offer free archives -- he's very interested in the bottom line ; )

Dobson's LaRouche connection

Who is Lyndon H. LaRouche?
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2143

Laurie Dobson
"A special video webcast of The LaRouche show featured Democratic Presidential pre-candidate Lyndon LaRouche. He was joined by LaRouche Democrats Nancy Spannaus (U.S. Senate candidate from Virginia), Kerry Lowry (candidate for State Representative in Michigan), and Laurie Dobson" http://www.larouchepub.com/eirtoc/2002/eirtoc_2942.html

She was one of the "nicer" Larouche people in the Kennebunkport Warning controversy. The other LaRouche affiliated folks spat out the really offensive stuff at Cindy Sheehan. http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunkport-warning-hoax-cont...

Here's a great quote from one of them; Craig Hill:

“[The] immediate aim of the militarization of space via nuclear weapons and other exotic dangers orbiting Earth, pointing down and controlling entire societies under threat they, too, may suffer that which Dr Judy Wood persuasively suggests occurred in NYC on 9/11.” http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunkport-warning-hoax-cont...
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Arabesque: 911 Truth

She may be nicer, but she still insisted Jamilla lied...

..And...just like the LaRouchian MO--Laurie posted her private email correspondence with Jamilla on her blog--using Jamilla's genuine attempts to resolve the KW privately as "evidence" of her lying...

Unfortunately it is no longer at her blog(or maybe Laurie finally saw sense). But it can be found in this familiar place:

http://mujca.com/smokinggun.htm
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Kennebunkport Smoking Gun

“I signed something but did not read what I signed...”

[I will be discussing this case with Leland Lehrman, congressional candidate from New Mexico, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 9-11 p.m. CT, http://www.wtprn.com Feel free to call in with your two cents’ worth.]

The whole point of the 9/11 truth movement is...truth. Having the courage to face the truth and state it publicly, even if it complicates our social lives, is what sets truth activists apart from feckless sheeple, cowardly careerists, and others who have a whole lot of spiritual development to do before they reach a level that could remotely be called human.

The truth about the Kennebunkport Warning, like the truth about 9/11, is knowable. From the moment the controversy broke out, a strong circumstantial case suggested that all of the signatories had in fact signed the document—but that four of them had, for some reason, regretted their decisions and decided to lie and accuse the Warning’s organizers of fraud. That case now appears conclusive, based on photos of the signed document and a private admission from Jamillia al-Shafei that she did in fact sign—contradicting her continuing public accusations that the Kennebunkport organizers committed forgery.

Forgery is a serious crime, and falsely accusing someone of forgery is an even more serious crime. Yes, I think Webster Tarpley made a terrible mistake by accusing his misguided, ignorant, badly mistaken opponents on this issue of being infiltrators. Webster should apologize forthwith. But Tarpley’s ill-considered accusation is nothing next to the mendacious fraud accusations put forth by the four regretful signatories. It is they, far more than Tarpley, who must apologize quickly if they want to retain any credibility. Frankly, if I were one of the Warning’s organizers, I would be strongly considering legal action.

Linked and excerpted below is a good account of the Kennebunkport controversy from winterpatriot (How I wish people would drop these stupid handles and sign their real names!!!!!! No wonder Tarpley’s suspicious!!!!!!!)

-Kevin Barrett

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http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/anyone-who-ever-had-heart-kenn...

Laurie Dobson has published an email from Jamilla El-Shafei, one of the four alleged non-signatories, in which Jamilla admits having signed the Kennebunkport Warning without reading it:

Hi Laurie,

This document was presented to me as it was a petition to IMPEACH CHENEY and because I was distracted and pulled in a hundred different directions I DID NOT READ IT.

I signed something but I did not read what I signed, which was stupid, I admit!!

I would like my name removed from this piece of work.

Jamilla's publicly stated position at the moment is that the document she signed was not the Kennebunkport Warning. She actually signed some other document, and the text was changed after she signed it.

Please Support MUJCA-NET MUJCA-NET needs your support. We are a non-profit organization and the scale of our activities depends entirely on your generosity. We would like to get copies of David Griffin's two 9/11 books (see above) into the hands of every religious leader in America. And we would like to push 9/11 truth onto the front pages of every newspaper in America. But we can't do it without your help. If you would like to donate to MUJCA-NET, click here.

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We do not need to support people who behave like this with our anti-war allies.

Maybe I should send Dahlia a link to this thread...
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Then there's this:

http://www.actindependent.org/THE%20KENNEBUNKPORT%20REALITY%20CHECK.pdf
this:
http://www.actindependent.org/

(scroll way down to "9/22/07—Laurie Dobson Comments on KW Attacks (See below)")

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And this:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=87463&sid=2cef5db1a7bf...

"Based on emails I have received, it is obvious to me that the big name people are afraid, but I believe that they should not defame those who asked them to sign the petition.

In my view, this accusation of falsified documenting casts a cloud of suspicion over the brave efforts of those signators who are standing by their decision to sign the petition. I stand with those who signed it who are not backing down.

Laurie Dobson"

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Its a good show

Kevin's shows are always engaging.

All of this vague Kevin spiking by obscure association is getting boring . . . but I'm a big 1st ammendment guy . . . I don't think people should be voted down . . . it seems to go against what we're fighting for.

(KB, don't feed the trolls . . . keep up the good work!)

Peace.

Kennebunkport Bush-Cheney Indictment

Laurie's indictment of Bush and Cheney is getting a lot of mainstream coverage in Maine.

http://www.dobsonforsenate.com/Dobson_for_Senate/Blog/Entries/2008/2/26_...

"Shall the Kennebunkport Board of Selectmen instruct the Town Attorney to draft indictments against President Bush and Vice President Cheney for crimes against our Constitution, and publish said indictments for consideration by other authorities, and shall it be the law of the Town of Kennebunkport that the Kennebunkport Police, pursuant to the above-mentioned indictments, arrest and detain George W. Bush and Richard Cheney in Kennebunkport if they are not duly impeached, and prosecute or extradite them to other authorities that may reasonably contend to prosecute them."

I try to applaud those who do good work (as Laurie is doing with her indictment), seek and speak the truth and let the chips fall where they may (as I did in the Kennebunkport controversy), focus on issues instead of ad-hominems, and put on the best radio shows possible.

truths

The nice thing about being able to post truths here is that they show up high on google searches almost immediately.

Here's what I get with a search of Laurie Dobson and LaRouche --

Laurie Dobson
Political Campaign Contributions
2004 Election Cycle
DOBSON, LAURIE
ROWAYTON, CT
06853 TEACHER $2,000 01/15/2003 P LAROUCHE IN 2004 - Democrat
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/laurie-dobson.asp?c...

October 19, 2002
"The Electable LaRouche—The American Tradition versus Empire"
Special two-hour roundtable discussion with: Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., pre-candidate for the 2004 Democratic Presidential nomination; Nancy Spannaus, Democrat and candidate for U.S. Senate in Virginia; Laurie Dobson, Democratic candidate for State Representative in Connecticut's 141st District; and Kerry Lowry, Democratic candidate for State Representative in Michigan's 19th District.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/calendars/lar_show-2002.html

Lots and lots. I guess she's really into LaRouche.

Kevin Barrett

His shows are always very good. I like Kevin's shows. I like Kevin. Kevin is a good man who has suffered for telling what he believes is the truth. Kevin has made national TV and national print and was catalyst for my father discovering 9/11 truth.

discovering truth

And I'm sure some that of Kevin's continuing radio guests - i.e., Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood, Morgan Reynolds, Jerry Leaphart - were also catalysts for *some* people discovering 9/11 truth.

But they were likely also catalysts for many more people to either turn away from our work altogether, waste their time debunking the hoax claims, or using the hoax claims to discredit our work, like Jim Dwyer's latest NYTimes piece that features Leaphart's claims supporting DEW --

ABOUT NEW YORK
For Engineer, a Cloud of Litigation After 9/11
By JIM DWYER
Published: February 23, 2008
Finally, one man has sued on behalf of the United States, claiming that Mr. Gilsanz is part of a vast conspiracy to cover up the truth about 9/11, including the “so-called building failures.” The lawsuit maintains that exotic weaponry actually destroyed the buildings, and that the airplanes were mass psychological trickery.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/nyregion/23about.html?em&ex=1203915600...