Truthstock 2008

I tried to watch this under

I tried to watch this under I got nauseas ;-)

/////////////////////
http://www.swatcash.com/dhs

Try the interviews, those

Try the interviews, those shouldn't give you a headache. :)

that was my sarcasm shining

that was my sarcasm shining through

meant to say "until i got"...

props for the effort though, Dylan.
/////////////////////

Feel the pain!

Fragile worldviews in head on collision with reality!

Great job, panelists... thanks for the video, Dylan

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

It is hard to watch

First impression

Well done!

The truth is tough to take for most lemmings.

It is disturbingly ironic and sad

to witness a young man get down on his knees and beg people to stop asking questions and bringing forward research about 9/11 "because it is destroying my generation." What is destroying his generation are foreign and domestic policies that are based on lies and deceptions -- and specifically the lies and deceptions surrounding 9/11.

I'm also struck by the on-campus differences between this current era and that of the Vietnam era. Of course there was no difference for a long time, even after the Vietnam war had been heating up for some time. The biggest difference was the draft and the numbers of young men who were being sucked directly into the military system and shipped off to a foreign land to "stop the spread of Communism." It took quite a while for education to take place on campuses about what was going on in Vietnam and to build a strong anti-war movement. But I doubt it would have been possible even then had there not been the impetus that so many young people felt to save their own lives and the lives of their friends by attempting to bring to an end a truly unjust and irrational war that ultimately sacrificed over 58,000 American lives.

Young people need to understand that 9/11 has affected their lives directly and if, indeed, as so many of us have good reason to believe, it was a false flag attack against the civilian population, and if those who perpetrated it are not brought to justice but allowed to remain free, then one can reasonably assume that at some future date -- and it could be soon -- another, far worse, false flag event could be staged. If that happens all bets will be off -- and that will be especially true regarding not only conscription but the whole social framework we currently enjoy. The imperialists can not achieve their strategic aims by means of an all volunteer military. They've already gone about as far as they can go on that footing. To go further, they are going to have to militarize the entire society -- one dreads to consider what "catalyzing event" might be deemed necessary to bring that about. "The Shell Game," gives us one dramatic possibility and it is horrendous. If anything like the vaporization of Los Angeles occurs those of us here can already outline precisely how this will be presented to the American public -- whatever the facts may be. From that point forward I believe direct participation in the military services by both sexes will become mandatory and no civil or uncivil disobedience in defiance of it will be tolerated.

We should all be down on our knees begging young men like that to wake the fuck up.

Someone should ask that young man

if he has seen the Pentagon's Active Denial System in operation and what he thinks it's really for.

Perhaps then he might be able to challenge his own denial.

I believe he said that 9/11 truth was distracting the left from getting out of Iraq, yes?

Well, the answer we're now being given for staying in Iraq is that if we leave al-Qaeda will take it over. Thus, if 9/11 is a fraud and al-Qaeda is a fraud, then the reason we're being given for staying in Iraq is also a fraud.

Americans are waking up, and it's do to all the hard work all of us brothers and sisters are doing every day.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Bait and Switch

Bait and Switch-part 3 The fraud morphs yet again:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR200804...
Iran Top Threat To Iraq, U.S. Says
Focus on Al-Qaeda Now Diminishing

By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 12, 2008; Page A01

Last week's violence in Basra and Baghdad has convinced the Bush administration that actions by Iran, and not al-Qaeda, are the primary threat inside Iraq, and has sparked a broad reassessment of policy in the region, according to senior U.S. officials.

Evidence of an increase in Iranian weapons, training and direction for the Shiite militias that battled U.S. and Iraqi security forces in those two cities has fixed new U.S. attention on what Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates yesterday called Tehran's "malign" influence, the officials said.

The intensified focus on Iran coincides with diminished emphasis on al-Qaeda in Iraq as the leading justification for an ongoing U.S. military presence in Iraq. cont...

Parroting Hi Guru: Chomsky

I believe he said that 9/11 truth was distracting the left from getting out of Iraq, yes?

"because it is destroying my

"because it is destroying my generation."

my answer to that is.. no, people with the capacity for intelligent though who let themselves be brainwashed are destroying this generation

That's the "Chomsky Effect"

That's the "Chomsky Effect" in action I think.

I tried to vote a 19 but the

I tried to vote a 19 but the it only could tally numbers 1 thru 10. Great stuff, that girl doing the interviews should do it more, on the street and regular sit down interviews. I predict one day not too far in the future that she will have a major talk show and make millions and millions of dollars. Most of the money she'll donate to truther.org for burning dvd's.

Great work!

Intense! Really bummed that I couldn't be there...

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA

wow thanks!

that made my day! it's hard to remember hundreds of talking points off the cuff, and I appreciate the compliment!

"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush

Clearly

you're not as "obsessed" as some of us, and that's probably good thing.

***big goofy grin***

I know how it is on the street when your adrenaline gets going.

You did great Abby, I'd go into battle with you and your family anytime.

Oh, and bring that Dylan guy along, too, he's not too bad, either.

(we might even see some polar bears, on sweaters even, lol)

Hope you can make it up to SF in May.

Keep up the fantastic work in SD and LA.

Cheers!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Great job Abby, Dylan and company!

Sorry to miss TruthStock, but I had to stay home and mind the kids.

Abby -

If I may offer a few talking points:

If someone brings up Vietnam, bring up the Gulf of Tonkin, a documented false flag operation now admitted by Robert McNamara.

If they bring up Iraq, tell them that the reason we're now being given for staying is to keep al-Qaeda from making it a base from which to attack us. Thus, if 9/11 is a fraud and al-Qaeda is a fraud, then the reason for staying in Iraq is also a fraud.

When talking to anyone in the military always ask them how they think anything could happen at the Pentagon 45 minutes after the first plane hit and 90 minutes after air emergencies were being reported by the FAA.

The heroin trade is a multi-billion dollar racket that has seen massive growth while we've been occupying Afghanistan. The trade in Afghanistan is run by warlords who are given free passage by U.S. forces. Most of the heroin goes to Europe and is brought in through Albania and Kosovo after being flown in from the central Asian neighbors of Afghanistan where the U.S. has a significant military presence. Retired U.S. Generals Richard Secord and John Singlaub are involved in the Afghani heroin trade, just as they were in the cocaine trade through Central America during the Contra years and in Indochina during the Vietnam years. You can also cite the recent crash of a known CIA rendition plane filled with cocaine.

There are three massive bases in Iraq, with secret "black" bases within those bases. These "black" bases have their own airstrips, their own hospitals and their own prisons. The U.S. is building an $800 million embassy in Baghdad.

When talking about U.S. government involvement in 9/11, stress that it was specific small elements within the government (like NORAD commanders), otherwise they think that you think that the mailman was involved (ridiculous, I know, but that is how they will try to conflate it).

If the White House is willing to lie about the dust and put at least 40,000 American lives in jeopardy, then why would they have any qualms about framing some "Islamic terrorists" and murdering 3,000 people on U.S. soil?

When talking motive for bringing down the Towers, remember that they had been condemned by the EPA and no insurance company in the world would underwrite the billion dollar clean-up of the buildings (as well as the massive psyop in bringing them down they way they did). WTC 7 had critical SEC files in it that were destroyed and now prevent the criminal investigations into multi-billion dollar corporate crimes as well as Mr. Silverstein's records regarding all the "construction" in the Towers and WTC 7, preventing probable lines of investigation into the crime of 9/11 (very much like setting a fire to cover a murder).

Ok, I've gone on long enough for now, I hope that you (and others) will find this helpful.

Keep up the great work and I look forward to a full report on the event.

I hope that we will we see you all on May 10 & 11 in SF.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

if i also may offer some

if i also may offer some talking points on your talking points
your heroin trade points are valid and are all good but i think a better much shorter talking point to throw out is
that 'opium/heroin production from Afghanistan has been at an all time high statistically since we invaded. and most of the worlds heroin is manufactured from opium imported from afganisan'
trying to prove a connection to a person completely ignorant to the US governments drug connections imo is too difficult, equally as hard imo as trying to convince a hard head neocon that 9/11 was an inside job. And also apart from heroin in and of itself let me throw out a side issue, that opium tar production is legal in many countries and used as a means to synthesize/convert legal prescription opiates like morphine (which actually isnt a conversion it can be organically extracted from opium poppies). I think a lot of people know that opium tar consumption is pretty much illegal all over the world, even in countries where its prevalent, but they do not know that many countries manufacture it legally to sell legally on the world market. which in my opinion is really crazy if you think about it. How much of the opium from Afghanistan is used for this purpose i do not know.

I agree with your other points as well, but its hard to remember all these facets on the spot when confronting people, as im sure you know if you have done street actions like this. I think abby did a great job, one of the best out there

im abby's brother by the way :- )

I have done a lot of work on the street

and try to get out at least three times a week.

Please don't interpret my comments as anything other than friendly constructive criticism, I think she did a great job and wish we had 50 more like her (and you and your mother, btw). But we all can always improve, yes?

That one ex-military guy was really slippery.

I hope you all can make it up to SF in May.

Keep up the great work! (Peter, isn't it?)

I'm John and work with Cosmos, Carol, Ken, hummux and Richard, among others.

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Slippery = ignorant

As Videohoax pointed out, it's pretty hard to think of everything off the cuff when confronting people, but Abby did a stupendous job. Unfortunately, an ex-military man snuck in the mix. I didn't find him slippery as much as brainwashed, gullible and grossly misinformed. Anytime ANYONE starts babbling about "liberating the Iraqis from the evil dictator, Saddam," you must immediately dismiss them as a hopeless case. Information and knowledge will set us free and I commend all the 9/11 Truth seekers for doing a fantastic in spreading the truth. Keep up the good work!!!!!!

We've missed you in these parts, susu666!

Nice to see you again.

It is with those who have swallowed the government line whole that I like to spend the most time, as long as they are open to civil dialogue. The trick is to find their areas of interest and lead them to the truth from that point, inductively. It's very "sneaky" and takes time, but it is also quite satisfying when you actually see the light bulb go on.

Of course, some of these people are absolutely committed to their ridiculous positions no matter how irrational they are, even when you get them to admit that they make no sense. Although, at this point they usually just insult you and walk away, there is a certain perverse satisfaction there, too.

***goofy grin***

I never dismiss anyone as a "hopeless case" as that is simply not part of my personal philosophy and, as long as they are willing to engage in civil dialogue, I think some progress can be made. They may not come around on the spot, but if you get them questioning even a few small assumptions, then you have begun the process. Admittedly, I am a very patient person and sometimes indulge these people excessively, but I prefer that to just trading insults, which is the other extreme.

Will you be making the trip to SF in May, by chance?

Keep up all the great work!

Cheers!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

FABULOUS!!! We need more of this...

We need more skeptics coming to these 9/11 events, otherwise it's just preaching to the choir. The young men that vehemently denied a cover-up were passionate yet nonobjective, certain yet uninformed. We truly do need more people like them to attend these types of events. We also should remember to deal with them sensitively (which I believe in this instance was the case). 9/11 activists know what it is like to cause a ruckus and be ignored, ridiculed, and escorted off the premises. Let us not do the same. We need to embrace the skeptics and treat them with the same respect we would expect for ourselves. Way to go fellas, keep it up! We are takin over this bitch!

That guy who got on his

That guy who got on his knees and said "read a book" needs to go read a book other than one of Chomsky's for a change. Not that his books are bad it's just he's also actively tried to pacify and brainwash "the left" and "set the parameters of debate" regarding things like JFK and 9/11. Michael Parenti is a far greater intellectual than Chomsky and is actually charismatic, but yet I guess he doesn’t have Ford Foundation money and establishment institutions like MIT backing him up.

Copy of Upper Vid

I posted the first vid here:
http://blip.tv/file/831779