CIA Foreknowledge of the Mumbai Attacks

(911blogger users: please use this post as a continuation of the first Mumbai News Thread. -rep.)

Yesterday, reported that the CIA's station chief in Delhi approached one of India's intelligence agencies, the Research and Analysis Wing, and passed on a fairly specific warning;

"In mid-September this year, the CIA station chief in Delhi sought an urgent meeting with his counterpart in R&AW to pass on some critical inputs. This was part of an understanding that Indian and American intelligence had institutionalised in the aftermath of 9/11. From its assets in Pakistan and Afghanistan, American intelligence had come to learn that the Lashkar-e-Toiba was planning to launch a major terrorist attack in Mumbai, which would be carried out from the sea."

Later in the article;

"By the middle of November, as Indian intelligence continued to check out further inputs, the pieces of an intricate jigsaw puzzle began to fall into place. Sources say they learnt that the attack would come from the sea and that the Taj Hotel would be a major target. However, it was not known whether this attack would be carried out by planting bombs in the hotel or by terrorists carrying small arms. Indian intelligence assessments were tilting towards bombs being planted and security at the hotel was beefed up accordingly to prevent terrorists from planting bombs inside the premises."

But the Hotel eased these security enhancements the week before the attack, according to the Chairman of the company that owned the Hotel where took the brunt of the attacks;

"The Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai, India, temporarily increased security after being warned of a possible terrorist attack, the chairman of the company that owns the hotel said Saturday.

But Tata Group Chairman Ratan Tata said those measures, which were eased shortly before this week's terror attacks, could not have prevented gunmen from entering the hotel."

So let's get this straight... the CIA and Indian intelligence have figured out that Mumbai will be attacked, and Indian intelligence even nailed down the Hotel, and warned the Hotel... so the Hotel slacked off on security. Of course.

The Outlookindia report does not tell us that the Hotel stood down, and this is not the only troubling aspect of the report. The article parrots information from Indian intelligence about a fishing trawler that the Indian Coast Guard "discovered", that just happens to be rich with damning evidence;

"On November 18, R&AW passed on a specific advisory to the Coast Guard, which serves as the Lead intelligence Agency for the coastal area. The advisory asked the coast guard to intensify patrolling and look out for a suspicious vessel, probably of Pakistani origin, which had sailed off from Karachi. While the coast guard began to patrol the area with renewed intensity, the terrorists had an entirely different plan.

According to details available with Indian intelligence and the information given by the terrorist who was picked up by the Mumbai police in an encounter near Chowpatty, the terrorists hijacked an Indian fishing boat, the Kuber, somewhere near Pakistani waters. They beheaded the majority of the boat's crew of six and only allowed one crew-member, Amarsinh Solanki, to live so that he could help them with navigating the boat to Mumbai. The coast guard found a Global Positioning System abandoned on the fishing trawler that was drifting nearly four nautical miles off the coast of Mumbai early on Thursday, November 27 morning, several hours after the terrorist attack began...

...What has surprised investigators piecing together the details of the attack is that the GPS recovered from the abandoned trawler, Kuber, had two maps fed into it to aid navigation. One was a route from Karachi that was plotted quite close to the Indian coast, while a return route had also been mapped into the GPS from the Mumbai coast back to Karachi. "We think this was done to give the terrorists some semblance of hope that they would go back home after a successful raid," a top security official told Outlook. The fact that these two maps were fed into the GPS has confirmed that there was some help from people with a naval or army background, and had extensive knowledge of navigation at sea.

...Meanwhile, investigators are poring through the call data details downloaded from the satellite phone also recovered from the abandoned trawler. Many of the call details have revealed numbers that have been traced back to the LeT's (Lashkar-e-Toiba) chief of operations, Muzamil, as well as to Lakhvi. Interestingly, the international SIM cards recovered from the bodies of the killed terrorists correspond to the intelligence picked up earlier, when Muzamil had asked his Bangladesh operative Yayah, to procure them.

How convenient. The gunmen left behind brutally damning evidence just to erase any lingering doubts that anyone might have had about the origins of this attack.

This reminds me of the luggage allegedly left behind in Boston, on 9/11 by Mohamed Atta;

"Former federal terrorism investigators say a piece of luggage hastily checked in at the Portland, Maine, airport by a World Trade Center hijacker on the morning of Sept. 11 provided the Rosetta stone enabling FBI agents to swiftly unravel the mystery of who carried out the suicide attacks and what motivated them.

A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the trade center. Seized by FBI agents at Boston's Logan Airport, investigators said, it contained Arab-language papers revealing the identities of all 19 hijackers involved in the four hijackings, as well as information on their plans, backgrounds and motives."

It also reminds me of the evidence bundle conveniently dropped in Memphis that was used to set up (and convict) James Earl Ray of the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.;

"On April 4, 1968, within minutes after the shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., a local police officer discovered a Remington 30-06 rifle, several unused bullets, and other effects that belonged to James Earl Ray, wrapped inside a blanket, outside Canipe's Amusement store. The owner of the store recalled someone dropping the package at his door before the time of the assassination."

The over-eager evidence-droppers in this case jumped the gun. Like Atta's luggage, and Ray's self-damning evidence bundle, there is something about that fishing trawler that is just too good to be true. The fact that the article uses intelligence sources so uncritically is in itself questionable.

As Michel Chossudovsky comments;

"Were the ISI to have been involved in a major covert operation directed against India, the CIA would have prior knowledge regarding the precise nature and timing of the operation.The ISI does not act without the consent of its US intelligence counterpart."

We know now that the CIA did indeed have "prior knowledge", derived from its own "assets", at least according to the spin from

I was waiting for this

I was waiting for this article to show up (claiming CIA involvement or foreknowledge). Have a few people to send it to.

Thanks, Rep.

"Those who have the privilege to know, have the duty to act."
-- Albert Einstein

The Highest Form of Counter Terrorism

is 911 Truth.

We are dealing with the REAL International Terrorists. In the corridors of power of the global shadow elite using us as pawns and stooges in their Grand Chessboard.

Its time to checkmate their dark schemes. Once and For All.

Everyone Pls also see : India's 9/11. Who was Behind the Mumbai Attacks?

Good Luck with All Your Efforts.
The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Mumbai Massacre Carried Out

Mumbai Massacre Carried Out By Brits

By By Jerry Lawton, Emma Wall and Gemma Wheatley

November 29, 2008 "The Daily Star" -- -- Police from the UK and India are probing claims that up to seven of the assassins, whose victims included a 13-year-old girl, travelled from the UK.

Indian security forces said at least two of the captured terrorists were British-born Pakistanis, while the total number could be as many as seven. In a sick twist, they are thought to have possible links to Yorkshire towns where the 7/7 outrages were plotted.

Last night UK police were using hi-tech computer software to link images of up to 25 gunmen to known Islamic fanatics.

The men were captured with eight others after commandos stormed two hotels and a Jewish centre to free hostages in the Indian finance capital.

A senior security official said: “There is mounting concern about the extent of British involvement in the attacks.


“Images of some of the gunmen are being studied in a bid to identify them. We are trying to see if this appalling event had roots in the UK.”

'Armed police would not fire

'Armed police would not fire back. - I wish I'd had a gun, not a camera'

From ANI

London/Mumbai, Nov.29: British daily --The Independent - has revealed how a newspaper photographer took an astonishing picture while hiding inside a train carriage as gunfire erupted all around him.

Sebastian D'Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, whose offices are just opposite the city's Chhatrapati Shivaji station, heard the gunfire erupt and ran towards the terminus.

"I ran into the first carriage of one of the trains on the platform to try and get a shot but couldn't get a good angle, so I moved to the second carriage and waited for the gunmen to walk by," he told The Independent.

"They were shooting from waist height and fired at anything that moved. I briefly had time to take a couple of frames using a telephoto lens. I think they saw me taking photographs but they didn't seem to care."

He said the gunmen were terrifyingly professional, making sure at least one of them was able to fire their rifle while the other reloaded.

By the time he managed to capture the killer on camera, D'Souza had already seen two gunmen calmly stroll across the station concourse shooting both civilians and policemen, many of whom, he said, were armed but did not fire back.

"I first saw the gunmen outside the station. With their rucksacks and Western clothes they looked like backpackers, not terrorists, but they were very heavily armed and clearly knew how to use their rifles," he said.

But what angered D'Souza were the masses of armed police hiding in the area who simply refused to shoot back.

"There were armed policemen hiding all around the station but none of them did anything," he said.

"At one point, I ran up to them and told them to use their weapons. I said, 'Shoot them, they're sitting ducks!' but they just didn't shoot back."

As the gunmen fired at policemen taking cover across the street, D'Souza realised a train was pulling into the station unaware of the horror within.

"I couldn't believe it. We rushed to the platform and told everyone to head towards the back of the station. Those who were older and couldn't run, we told them to stay put."

The militants returned inside the station and headed towards a rear exit towards Chowpatty Beach.

"I told some policemen the gunmen had moved towards the rear of the station but they refused to follow them. What is the point if having policemen with guns if they refuse to use them? I only wish I had a gun rather than a camera," he said.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

If a false flag terrorist attack, not the first time in India

India is no beginner when it comes to False Flag attacks.
World famous author and activist Arundhati Roy has written the introduction to and an essay in «13 Dec a reader The Strange Case of the Attack on the Indian Parliament».
Warmly recommended!

(And as I have pointed out many times now, Noam Chomsky has written the preface to Nirmalangshu Mukherji «13 December Terror over Democracy», proving himself to be no enemy of "conspiracy theories", as long as they concern far away countries like India.)

Another player in the "New World Order"

It looks the British East India company may still be operating in the shadows.

Opium dealers last two centuries, opium dealers in Afghanistan this century.....

Its Empire as usual. For the $ervant$ of the NWO.
The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Wall Street Journal Lets Slip a 9/11 Truth Description

Everyone missed the Wall Street Journal quote about Mumbai and 9/11. No less than Sir Gulam Noon in the Weekend WSJ Nov 29-30, in "Survivor's Tales from Inside the Terror in Mumbai:"

"They barricaded the doors with furniture. At midnight an explosion rocked the building like an 'earthquake,' Sir Gulam said. "In my mind, I thought we are going to see another 9/11 here, he said, fearing the entire hotel would be blown up."

Sir Gulam is a major Labor contributor.

Lindorff saves face?

A Tale of Two Terror Attacks

"And let us hope that Americans finally demand an honest accounting of what happened on 9/11/2001 and that those who are guilty of allowing it to happen, and of sending the country off on a pointless, bloody and seemingly endless jihad in the Middle East as a result are exposed and forced to pay for their ineptness and their crimes."

By the way Rep, really great post! Thanks! I noticed it over at OpEd, too...

"who are guilty of allowing it to happen"

He's still got a ways to go.

William Cohen, Former Clinton Defense Sec. in Mumbai for Attacks

Cohen and Deepak Chopra interviewed on Faux News - EDIT- title: Is the United States Creating More Terrorists Than We're Killing?,2933,460246,00.html

"and former secretary of defense under the Clinton administration, William Cohen. He was in Mumbai, India when the attacks began."

ENLIGHTENMENT" AUTHOR: Well, first of all, I don't think Dorothy Rabinowitz has any sense of history. If she did she would know that in the 1980s the CIA financed the militarization of Afghan rebels to resist Soviet expansion in the region. At the same time the U.S. subsidized Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI, to train and provide tactical support to these Mujahideen who later became Taliban.

So, you know, there's a history there that clearly suggests that the U.S. activity in the Indian continent for the last few decades has in some way participated in the creation of this mess that we have.

What we have to understand, what Miss Rabinowitz does not understand is that killing a terrorist is not the same thing as killing their ideology.

The jihadists ideology, which is barbaric, violent, senseless, savage and primitive, is — has a historical context.


CHOPRA: It cannot be wiped out with force much less killed. You know, unless we understand the root causes of this, we're going to perpetuate this violence over and over again.


SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Deepak, it's Sean Hannity. Thanks for being with us.

I want to go back to your statement, if I can here, because you said specifically that it's our policies, our foreign policies that had alienated Muslim populations, and we've gone after the wrong people and that we're responsible for inflaming moderates.

Deepak, I just — I couldn't disagree with you strongly. You even contradict the 9/11 report.


COHEN: Well, let me go back. I think that others have raised this issue. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, for example, indicated that this is not a clash of civilizations. It's a clash within a civilization. Namely you've got elements in the Muslim community that are waging war against those Muslims who want to stay in the 21st century and embrace modernity.

And it's going to take not just the United States, and Tom Friedman and others have said show us the money. Other countries have to come to the bar now and say we need to infuse economic assistance to be sure, but we've got to approach this on a global basis because the terrorism is not regional, it's global, and I think that we've got to do is look for ways in which we can reduce the killing of innocent people.

I wanted to do that when I was secretary of defense, collateral damage, we tried to minimize it because every time you kill an innocent person...


COHEN: ... you're going to cause hatred towards United States.

new info...

Indian Terrorists Planted Five Bombs and Used Sophisticated Timers to Detonate Them

The Explosive Material Is Said to Resemble That Used in the 1993 Mumbai Blasts


MUMBAI, India, Dec. 2, 2008 —

The Mumbai Police Bomb Squad confirmed today that terrorists planted a total of five bombs in the city during Wednesday's attacks, and that at least two of the bombs used sophisticated timers unlike anything India had seen until this year.

the fix spin is in

excerpts below the link

Ex-ISI men trained Mumbai attackers; claims US report

NEW DELHI: Pakistan’s efforts to maintain the fiction of denial — terror groups are run by non-state actors and these outfits operated without
its support — may not work as evidences are piling up about involvement of former ISI officials in the Mumbai bombings.

Reports from Washington quoting a former US defence department official said former Pakistani army officials trained the terrorists who went on rampage in Mumbai. “A former defence department official said on Wednesday that American intelligence agencies had determined that former officers from Pakistan’s army and its powerful ISI helped train the Mumbai attackers,” The New York Times said.

This supports the Indian finding that the attack was planned by Lashkar-e-Toiba with the help of officials of the “semi rogue” ISI. According to the investigators here, Lashkar leaders Zaki-ur-Rehman and Yusuf Muzammil were among the masterminds of the attack. Police have claimed that they have details of phone conversations between the bombers and Muzammil.

The arrested bomber Ajmal Qasab has confessed to the police that he spent a year and a half in various terror camps run by the Lashkar. Qasab also told his interrogators that he had met Lashkar leader Mohammad Hafeez Sayeed.


As investigations proceed, “We should consider the possibility that terrorists could deliberately mislead to throw investigators off the real scent.” Riedel concluded.