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What Do NORAD's 9/11 Computer Chat Logs Reveal?

In April 2006, journalist Michael Bronner received in the post 30 hours of recordings he had requested from the Pentagon. These recordings, which came as a series of computer audio files on three CDs, had captured events on the operations floor at NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector throughout the day of September 11, 2001. [1] NORAD--the North American Aerospace Defense Command--is the military organization responsible for monitoring and defending the airspace of North America. Its Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS), based in Rome, New York, is responsible for monitoring and protecting 500,000 square miles of airspace above the northeast U.S., including the airspace over New York City and Washington, DC. [2] It was within this airspace that the 9/11 attacks occurred, and from the NEADS operations floor that the U.S. military's response originated. Evidence of what happened there that day is clearly in the public interest and of obvious importance for attempts to unravel how the attacks were able to succeed. In an August 2006 Vanity Fair article based on the recordings, Bronner therefore referred to these "NORAD tapes" as "the authentic military history of 9/11." [3]

However, the NORAD tapes are not the only record of the actions of NORAD and its Northeast Air Defense Sector on September 11. In her recent book Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama that Unfolded in the Skies Over America on 9/11, commercial pilot and author Lynn Spencer revealed the existence of other crucial documentation. Yet, more than seven years on from 9/11, this record remains unreleased to the public and its contents are almost completely unknown.

Spencer described how, at around 9:25 a.m. on September 11, Master Sergeant Joe McCain, the mission crew commander technician at NEADS, received a call from the Continental U.S. NORAD Region (CONR) headquarters at Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida. Major General Larry Arnold and his staff at Tyndall had been trying to gather information about the ongoing crisis, and wanted to know the transponder codes for the two fighter jets that had been launched in response to the first hijacking. The CONR officer that made the call told McCain to "send [the transponder codes] out on chat." By "chat," he meant NORAD's computer chat system. [4]

According to Spencer, the chat system used by NORAD that day was "similar to the chat rooms on most Internet servers, but classified." It had three chat rooms that could be used by anyone with proper access. One room was specifically for NEADS, and connected its ID, surveillance, and weapons technicians to its alert fighter squadrons, and was where NEADS received status reports on fighter units and their aircraft. Another chat room was for CONR, and was where its three sectors--NEADS, the Western Air Defense Sector (WADS), and the Southeast Air Defense Sector (SEADS)--communicated with each other and could "upchannel" information to CONR headquarters. The third room was the Air Warfare Center (AWC), where senior NORAD commanders from the three NORAD regions--CONR, Canada, and Alaska--communicated with each other. Although NEADS was allowed to monitor this room, it could not type into it. [5]

Furthermore, when a training exercise was taking place, one or two additional chat windows would be open specifically for communicating exercise information, so as to help prevent it being confused with real-world information. [6] This fact is of particular significance, as the whole of NORAD, including the staff at NEADS, was involved in at least one major training exercise the morning of 9/11. The annual "Vigilant Guardian" exercise has been described as "an air defense exercise simulating an attack on the United States," and was scheduled to include a simulated hijacking that day. [7] According to Larry Arnold, who was the commanding general of NORAD's Continental U.S. Region, this exercise was only canceled after the second World Trade Center tower was hit at 9:03 a.m. [8]

NORAD kept paper logs of the communications that took place in its computer chat rooms. As Spencer described, at NEADS it was Joe McCain's responsibility "to monitor the chats and keep paper logs of everything that is happening. ... These chat logs help to keep everyone on the same page, but in a situation like the one unfolding [on 9/11] they have to be updated almost instantaneously to achieve that end." [9] These logs are actually referred to in the notes at the back of the 9/11 Commission Report. However, this is only in relation to a single communication made across the chat system. As the report described: "At 10:31, General Larry Arnold instructed his staff to broadcast the following over a NORAD instant messaging system: '10:31 Vice president has cleared to us to intercept tracks of interest and shoot them down if they do not respond per [General Arnold].'" [10] This detail makes clear that crucial information was being communicated in the NORAD chat rooms. Yet, to date, we know practically nothing about what else was being discussed in them.

Clearly, the details of the NORAD chat logs for the day of 9/11 need to be made public and must be carefully examined. They may not tell us the full story of the U.S. military's response to the attacks, nor give us all the answers we require about why the military failed so catastrophically to protect the nation. But they will surely fill a large gap in the puzzle.

[1] Michael Bronner, "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes." Vanity Fair, August 2006.
[2] Leslie Filson, Sovereign Skies: Air National Guard Takes Command of 1st Air Force. Panama City, FL: 1st Air Force, 1999, p. 51; Michael Bronner, "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes."
[3] Michael Bronner, "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes." The NORAD tapes were previously subpoenaed by the 9/11 Commission in November 2003. (See Philip Shenon, "9/11 Panel Issues Subpoena to Pentagon." New York Times, November 8, 2003; Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission. New York: Knopf, 2006, pp. 85-88.) However, the Commission played only a few short excerpts from the tapes, during its final public hearing on June 17, 2004. In August 2007, the producers of the popular 9/11 documentary film Loose Change received audio files of the NORAD tapes, which they made fully available to members of the public over the Internet. (See "NORAD Live and Uncut." Official Loose Change Blog, August 30, 2007.)
[4] Lynn Spencer, Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama That Unfolded in the Skies Over America on 9/11. New York: Free Press, 2008, p. 139.
[5] Ibid. p. 139.
[6] Ibid. pp. 139-140.
[7] Hart Seely, "Amid Crisis Simulation, 'We Were Suddenly No-Kidding Under Attack.'" Newhouse News Service, January 25, 2002; Leslie Filson, Air War Over America: Sept. 11 Alters Face of Air Defense Mission. Tyndall Air Force Base, FL: 1st Air Force, 2003, pp. 41 and 122; Michael Bronner, "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes."
[8] Leslie Filson, Air War Over America, p. 59.
[9] Lynn Spencer, Touching History, p. 140.
[10] 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Authorized Edition). New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2004, pp. 42 and 465-466.

NORAD, 9/11 and the American People

What was the American people’s reaction to the court formally known as supreme’s decision to stop the 2000 recount and install George W. Bush as president? Nothing.

What was the American people’s reaction to the exposure of 9/11 as an inside job being exploited to start a phony ‘War on Terror’ which has been used to justify two illegal wars based on lies that have caused the murder of upwards of 3 million innocent people in their name? Purchase unaffordable real esate.

What was the American people’s reaction to the second presidential election in a row being stolen by George W. Bush? Nothing.

What was the reaction of the American people in regards to the bankers stealing $ 8.5 trillion in broad daylight? Uh, nothing.

So what are the American people doing?

“Take me out to the ballgame”

Its all a cover-up...

A few points...

...David Ray Griffin's book Debunking 9/11 Debunking does a great job at exposing Bronner and Vanity Fair....

...the commonality between Bronner and Spencer is that they each were allowed "special access" to interview and "see" stuff at NEADS-NORAD-tapes etc. Therefore, we will be getting "special information" from both of those authors...which we have!

...Spencer tries to get Cheney off the hook by massaging the information in a way that she states that the aircraft Cheney was referring to during the Minetta story was UA93...

...Woodward and other insiders have gone out of their way to dispute Minetta's timeline so as to keep Cheney free from accountability for many this case...the shootdown order for UA93...

...Spencer applies her "special" information into this restructuring of the truth...being a "good soldier", she creates cover because its a HUGE liability issue driven by all the dead people's relatives onboard UA93 etc...

...I find it odd that there are taped conversations at NEADS that are picking up normal chit-chat at the NEADS sector positions...usually its phone lines that are recorded...not "free air" chat... there open chat recorded in the bathrooms?...where does that "free air" recording begin and end at NEADS? the parking lots?...

..if its either "free air" recording, or recordings of phone lines, WHY do these tapes not begin at say, 6:00AM...or in fact, why not 24/7/365?...

...cause the good stuff happens earlier that's why!!!

...I find it interesting that the "chat rooms" that are so critical to not only our national defenses, but are used during War Games activities are not electronically recorded?..., they open up additional "chat rooms" to handle the War Games Excercises...ALL OF WHICH...are monitored, measured and evaluated as to how well each part of the air defense apparatus is working or not working...and they DON'T have such critical information and action links recorded in case they wanted to do an after-action, or an overall evaluation of everybody's performances during any War Games...or active scrambles???

...are we to believe that they hand wrote notes on this "chat room" network way back in 2001?...

..maybe before the last communications upgrade at NORAD they were using stone tablets, hammers and chisels...and the computer updates allowed them to graduate to pens and paper to record the electronic messaging?...

...I think that THE HI PERPS want the public to think that this is the only recording "devices" [pen and paper] or histories that they ever used or created to chronicle 9/11...respectively. I believe that this thread on their part havs been established SPECIFICALLY to mislead all interested parties away from the REAL information that they HAD/HAVE recorded regarding the unfolding events on 9/11...

...War Games have War Games inside of War Games that are all inside of War Games that are inside even MORE War Games with a few tiny scrimmages off on the side...

...EACH War Game or scrimmage is isolated in highy compartmentalized structures so that individual units, persons, squadrons, radar facilities, aviation asset bases, mechanical-maintenance or armament teams...AD INFINITUM...can be evaluated... is ALL designed so that EACH of the thousands of individual and collective tasks can be given an individual evaluation regarding their performances during the War Games...

...which is WHY they run War Games in the first place...evaluating the status of the air defenses...DUHHH!!!

...All information barriers between the separate aspects and elements of the War Games are kept highly secure...SPECIFICALLY so that each of the thousands of element's "actions" within the national air defense system can be evaluated individually...because...

...if such layered information is NOT kept secure, it will leak out and allow SOME participants to get a "leg up" on what is going to happen to them during the War Games...

...and they can...and do...CHEAT to make themselves and their squadrons/units "win" the competition...

...from which, promotions are forthcoming for the top performers... the end, even the Commission realized that they were being lied to by the HI PERPS in the Pentagon...which is why they considred bringing in the DoJ...

...if we keep at this long enough, we will reassemble...well after the fact...some of the War Game scenarios that were in use...or DESIGNED FOR the 9/11 attacks...

...just keep the info flowing...every tiny bit is a piece of the fatal War Game puzzle...

...and in a few years as we reassemble the War Games Scenarios, one of which I personally call "The 9/11 Attacks War Game Scenario", or, more realistically..."Operation Re-electio"...there will be insiders who will come to see that what THEY were doing on 9/11, [which they innocetly thought had nothing to do with the attacks], may indeed have played a role IN the attacks...or the failure of "their" NORAD to respond...

...they may discover that their seemingly obscure roles or actions may have actually contributed to the success of te attacks in some way...

...they will figure it out as are we...

Love, Peace and Progress...

Robin Hordon


Unfortunately I think these chat logs are in the same trash bin as cheney's emails.

Looks to be a lot of clutter designed to keep waters muddy

Not that I claim to be any kind of expert, but this looks like a big smoke screen. II just read the Vanity Fair article for the first time and I see lot of chatter by low and middle end people doing their jobs. They're not part of the cover-up or the plot. In fact, I would figure that the high end perps count on these people to exactly what they expect them to do, their jobs. This gives them a framework to build from in the real objectives. This has hit piece all over it. Note how the author uses a parenthetical personal thought as an aside to "whisper in your ear" how he is certain it isn't a cover-up.

Still there seems to be some ominous foreboding tidbits that raise red flags to me. Like the statement by one of the controllers, like the one comment "I've never see so much real-world stuff happen during an exercise." You can see some evidence of the fact that false radar blips were playing, "I think this is a damn input, to be honest."

And how about this:
He tells the Battle Cab he wants Fox to launch two more fighters from Langley Air Force Base, in Virginia, to establish a greater presence over New York, but the request is refused. The order from the Battle Cab is to put the Langley jets on battle stations only—to be ready, but not to launch.

"The problem there would have been I'd have all my fighters in the air at the same time, which means they'd all run out of gas at the same time," Marr later explained

Gas? Really? Aren't these planes filled and ready in order to by on standby? I mean really, you have hijackings and you're worried about gas? Wouldn't you dispatch right away and get two more ready if they really didn't have say more than an hour's flight time. A lot can be done in an hour. What about a refuel operation in the air? I mean.. really.. you didn' t launch because of gas?

I know there is a more complete recording of the first phone call from Boston Cntr. After the FAA person says "Not an exercise, Not a test", the respondent says, forgive my adlib, " oh boy, I don't know, everyone here just got up and left the room." in which Boston Cntr replied, "Someone will need to make that decision in the next 10 minutes". Its the actions of the higher ups we must focus on. We all know where their sh*t runs.

Thanks for the great post Robin.

Peace All



Let's look at this quote a little more:

"'10:31 Vice president has cleared to us to intercept tracks of interest and shoot them down if they do not respond per [General Arnold].'""

1. More than 2 hours after the start of the attacks, and after all the damage had been done, they finally get around to an official response.

2. Vice President NOT in chain of command at all.

3. "Vice president has cleared to us to intercept tracks of interest..." Oh really? So, prior to this new order you were NOT "cleared" to "intercept tracks of interest?" Big red flag.

4. Secretary of Defense not involved. No "approval" as per June 1st 2001 "Air Piracy (Hijacking) Instructions."

5. Bush was derelict at 9:05am when allegedly told "America is under attack" by Andrew Card in the Booker Elementary classroom. At 9:05am this very same order to intercept and shoot down attacking planes could have had a real world effect on the Pentagon attack. Bush's failure to defend the nation at the moment it mattered most is grounds for a treason trial, as in "aid and comfort" to the attacking "enemy."

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog

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Stand down

This looks like one of the most glaring examples of the stand down order I have seen besides Mr. Mineta's testimony.

Captain Sherlock Solves 911

New film, check it out:
Gets into what may have really happened with airplanes.

Good film

Interesting evidence, and quite compelling. Too much symbolism in the film, however. The information gets somewhat lost from time to time because you are trying to figure out what the filmmaker was trying to imply rather than just hearing the message that there were drone aircraft following the real aircraft and that there were smaller white planes following both and watching them. Great info, however, and I believe this needs to be more closely examined.


Related, there is a new book out called the 9/11 Mystery Plane which I saw on Amazon, which gets into the white plane that CNN covered flying over the Pentagon. Worth checking out.

The information would be better presented in a 10 minute film

I had a very hard time with the "style" of this film and it would reach a far larger audience in a short format on YouTube.

He does present a very interesting hypothesis that deserves further investigation.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Confirm the Navy "issue"...

I find this film lacking... everything except that I have other sources unknown by anyone in the 9/11 Truth Movement, that noted that there may have been a deliberate strike AT the Navy Intel.

I've been told that the Navy's Intel was too good and too far outside the Pentagon's "control" for it be trusted...and vice-versa. A dangerous loose end for Rummy, Cheney and Meyers...

Now, I have postulated many of the same things that this production theorizes...but I announce my theorizing when I do so and supply as much evidence and interesting questions to support them as I can...

...and I am not claiming that I have "solved" anything because I have NOT solved anything...

The ONLY thing that I KNOW about the AA77-Pentagon saga is that nobody anywhere at anytime ever positively re-radar identified any target anywhere as being AA77 after it was lost to positive radar contact, and that the HI PERPS are trying to convince us that the primary target seen by Danielle O'Brien at Potomac Approach was AA77.

They are trying to accomplish this by building their HOUSE OF CARDS upon the weakness of reverse-identifying the target as being AA77 as a function of the physical evidence that the debris at the Pentagon is from AA77 thus building the ID trail backwards.

This is something that they postulate...but have yet to prove.

The film?

There is not ONE aspect of this film that I find sustainable with solid evidence and its a typical house of cards with the weakest part being its own foundation. Seeking back pay for being fired for some reason is a clue here.

I did well to make it all the way through...and am very comfortable at hitting the "delete" button.

Overall, we are making very good progress in establishing some strong evidence surrounding the events of 9/11...and this film isn't even strong speculation...

Its more of a myth...presented with mythical techniques...


Love, Peace and Progress...

Robin Hordon