as german researcher Jürgen Elsässer pointed out:

After Dayton in 1995, we see Chechnya war start, then Kosovo, then Macedonia then 9/11. What’s common to all 5 of these events is Islamic militants and al-Qaeda. Is there a global coordination of these events and if so what’s the goal?

The spider in the net is MPRI, a subcontractor of the Pentagon. They took over the Arab/Iranian weapons-smuggling in 1995, helped the Mujahadeen to "liberate" Sarajevo in September 1995, took the best Mujahadeen fighters after Dayton on their own payroll, trained them with the help of Turkish army and sent them to Kosovo and later to Macedonia. I could not fin a link between Chechnya and MPRI, but Aukai Collins, an American Mujahadeen, who fought in Chechnya and had contacts with some of the 9/11 bombers, was at least on the payroll of FBI and CIA. Not Al Qaeda is in the center of all these events, but American secret services, which used Al Qaeda.

Two of the 9/11 hijackers were veteran jihadists in Bosnia. What did they do in Bosnia that made them so exceptionally qualified to kill Americans?

Not two, but five: Al Hazmi and Al Midhar (Plane Nr.3/Pentagon), Mohammed Atta (Plane Nr. 1/WTC) and the "Masterminds" Binalshibh and Khalid Sheikh Mohamed. Al Hazmi and Al Midhar were from Jan. 2000 until 9/11 under surveillance of US-Secret Services as was Atta's flat in Hamburg-Harburg. Binalshibh and Sheikh Mohamed are in US-custody since their arrest in 2002/2003 and are the main witnesses for the Pentagon-Version of 9/11, voluntarily or involuntarily they also work for US-interests. These people killed 3000 people, mostly Americans, but it is likely that they also worked for US secret services.

Is there an al-Qaeda link with the Kosovo Albanian KLA army and if so what is the evidence?

MPRI sent 80 – 120 Mujahadeen into Kosovo to help KLA. This is proven. ObL's own attempts to smuggle men into Kosovo failed. Originally, KLA had a rather weak Muslim influence. KLA are bunch of criminals with a great Albanian nationalist agenda. There's one exception: Hodza (Samedin Xhezairi), who praised himself (in German TV!) as coordinator for the pogroms around Prizren in March 2004. NATO sees him as confident of Bin Laden, but he himself says he has worked for CIA and BND. Another guy with double loyalty is the KLA-successor, so called ANA that is now split into several factions. One branch works with Al Qaeda, and the other is against this alliance.

Some of us believed you. :-)

Just makes me mad. What hit the Pentagon?

a conspiracy to commit mass murder and incite war hit the Pentagon. Fair enough?

"New York Judge Dismisses Claim Negligent Construction Contributed To WTC 7 Collapse"

"Both claims were rejected by Judge Hellerstein, who dismissed Con Ed’s claim that the Port Authority was negligent in the collapse of WTC 7 because of a “connection with the construction or maintenance” of the building."

http://911blogger.com/node/20780

Here's my write-up on this story: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/07/former-fbi-translator-bin-laden-w...

Any info on ISI handling officer, Cheney's "working relationship" etc. would be appreciated, to add ...

http://www.911blogger.com/node/12478
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20541

Or at least knowledge of the attacks that you never hear about...

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=asummer01binladenspeech#a...

And the reason you probably never hear about it is because that is based on the "prison interrogations of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed."

When bin Laden was visited in a Dubai hospital by CIA station chief Larry Mitchell in summer of 2001, he (OBL) might have got the "heads up" that something drastic was about to come down soon, and that "he would be taken care of". The fact that he wasn't arrested or detained on that occasion (the meeting lasted a number of hours) despite his being on the FBI's "most wanted" list for the African Embassy bombings, is testament to the probability that OBL was being protected. On the day before 9/11, CBS reported that OBL visited a military facility in Rawalpindi Pakistan, where witnesses saw a man answering to OBL's distinctive appearance being escorted in and out under heavy guard. This facility, as reported in the CBS article, is "shared by Pakistani and US military and intelligence units, the latter reporting back to Washington DC on a daily basis".

Since then, every sighting of OBL has been either demonstrably faked, or if real, there is no verifiable time stamp or certifiable chain of custody. Common sense tells us that OBL was a US intelligence asset up until 9/11, and since then, he is most likely either dead, or in protective custody in a secure, undisclosed location. ;). After all, why kill off the superstar in the "justification" used by the US government to launch, and continue, the so called "war on terrorism".

here is Bin Ladens denial:

'USAMA BIN LADEN: In the name of Allah (God), the most beneficent, the most merciful. Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the Earth as an abode for peace, for the whole humankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) for our guidance. I am thankful to the Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and momin (true Muslim) people of Pakistan who refused to believe the lies of the demon (Pakistani military dictator General Pervez Musharraf).

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.

http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

Meanwhile we have these guys who are being ignored by even 9-11 truth.,..why?

The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11

As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question...

...Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News:

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab. (8)

(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these "Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")

Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.

White, 2000 Chevrolet van with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. (9)

When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (10)

Why did he feel Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?

The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (11)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (12)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20090104025547844

This a a tough issue. The 9/11 truth movement is already subject to name-calling by supporters of the official fairytale. This is the standard response when their side has run out of road and lost the argument: resorting to ad hominems. Just to invoke doubt or skepticism re. the mildest points of 9/11 (against the official version) is to invite a slew of playground-style insults. Unfortunately, many people take note of this schoolboy -style language when they are not prepared to or don't have the time to read through the logic of an argument, no matter how strong it is; as soon the predictable accusation of "conspiracy theorist" rears its ugly head, there is an immediate association with "Elvis is still alive", or "Bigfoot" or UFOs etc.

The dancing Israeli issue is even more problematic. Invoking any criticism of any aspect of Israel , even its domestic and foreign policies is to invite slurs of "anti-semite!", "Jew hater!", "Holocaust denier!" and more. One comes across the same reactions if bringing up the issue of the disproportionate influence of the Israeli lobby in Washington DC. In other words, the subject is taboo. Many people in the 9/11 Truth community avoid going there, for good reason; Eric Hufschmid, for example (and others) have damaged the mainstream image of the 9/11 truth community by conflating skepticism of the official story of the 9/11 attacks with "Holocaust denial" and "the faked moon landings" and other such idiotic material. His work has effectively been a major boost for the supporters of the government's version of the events of 9/11. The 9/11 truth community doesn't have the time, and cannot afford to concentrate on damage control; there is so much important work that remains to be done.

However, none of this takes away from the undeniable fact that those 5 "dancing Israelis" remain a very strong indication of some degree of involvement and prior knowledge on the part of people within the Israeli government/intelligence service. This was even admitted by the leader of that group, Dominic Suter, who admitted on an Israeli chat show on mainstream Israeli television a few years back that "he was sent by his (agency) bosses to document the event". This video footage periodically surfaces on youtube but as soon as someone puts it up, the censors at youtube pull it; this content is obviously red-flagged. Those Mossad guys knew exactly where to go, videotaping the attack from the best vantage point, on the NJ shore, looking straight across the water to Lower Manhattan; the FBI arrested them and found much highly incriminating evidence. I should add... had these guys been Muslims, or Palestinians, the media and the government would have undoubtedly named them as co-conspirators alongside the alleged hijackers, "tried" them in a military tribunal kangaroo court, and sentenced them to death. At the very least, they would be in Gitmo or similar, awaiting their certain demise.

The part that frustrates me about this entire affair, is that those 5 Mossad guys have the strongest connection, as regards prior knowledge, and even possible involvement, with the events of that day. At the very least, they could have been charged with "accessory before the fact" to mass murder etc., a serious charge that carries penalties similar to what the actual perpetrators would face in court. But no. They were quietly released and sent back to Israel, no media coverage, no questions, no problems.

So, what to do? Here we have a potentially most damning link to the "who and how" of 9/11, but it remains off limits, as described above. I have brought this issue up (in private conversation at various 9/11 oriented events) with several high profile members of the 9/11 truth community and I have the universal impression nobody is prepared to exploit this, presumably on account of the reasons I mentioned.

As an afterthought, I wonder where those videotapes that the FBI confiscate are now located, what is on them, and when did those guys start rolling tape?

This was even admitted by the leader of that group, Dominic Suter, who admitted on an Israeli chat show on mainstream Israeli television a few years back that "he was sent by his (agency) bosses to document the event".

In fact, he spoke in Hebrew (afaik), and this is what the translator made of it.

"The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily, our purpose was to document the event"

Is this any less bad? I don't know, but it's better to quote precisely, than to insert phrases such as "was sent by his agency".

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't speak Hebrew, but from what I have seen, nobody has (as of yet) challenged the accuracy of the translation.

It has been a couple of years since I watched that clip, and I cannot recall the exact text, verbatim. You are correct, but imho, it is "no less bad"; regardless of the reason given; their actions still infer detailed prior knowledge. I also feel it is inappropriate to take an accommodationist position on this due to the gravity of the crimes and the aftermath.

However, to put this in plain language (recognizing the risk of being keel-hauled by the political correctness police), this issue stinks, absolutely. The US most likely ignored (and the media squashed reportage of) this possible smoking gun, presumably because of the nationality (and religion) of these guys? It is patently obvious, that had these guys been Islamic, or Iranian or (name *any* muslim name in the Middle East), the media and administration would have been jumping and high-fiving in glee, giving it 24/7 total immersion coverage. And we all know about the position (regarding the Israeli-Arab, or Jewish-Muslim relations) of many of the top people in the 2001 Bush Administration... perhaps the pressure to conform to political correctness prevents people in the 9/11 Truth community from airing these details as well?

It is a frustrating, that one of the possibly most productive avenues of research into the how and who of 9/11 is a "no go area". The need to be politically correct on this issue is causing much self censorship, and is hobbling the 9/11 truth community. Could it be possible (to put my neck on the chopping block here), that the planners (not necessarily the actual perpetrators) were aware of this state of self-censorship in advance of the attacks, and that it was factored in, allowing for some "wiggle room" in the event of errors in the execution of such a complex plan?

As I mentioned in my previous post, this situation reflects the extraordinary degree of duplicity, hypocrisy and privilege that infests not only official US foreign policy in the middle east, but how it trickles down into everyday life and conversation.

*Taking cover*

To clarify: my position is that 9/11 is a joint operation of primarily three countries: the United States, Pakistan and Israel who manipulated terrorists and subverted the United States' defenses for their own agenda. The leader in the operation is the United States, primarily the network run by PNAC members, headed by, in my opinion, George Bush sr.

The Mossad is involved. Absolutely. In fact, the extent of their involvement could be much, much bigger than we initially thought it was.

It's definitely not a no-go area for me. Nothing is. Except, perhaps, the Holocaust. I can't help that, it's just too painful and too ...well...taboo. I won't even investigate anything I hear about that. Maybe that's wrong, I don't know.

'To clarify: my position is that 9/11 is a joint operation of primarily three countries: the United States, Pakistan and Israel who manipulated terrorists and subverted the United States' defenses for their own agenda'

manipulated terrorists? Really? The absurdity of this view is apparent when you ask yourself how did these 'terrorists' (arabs as u imply) get access to the towers to plant explosives... They may have been let past israeli security at the 3 american airports, except theres no video proof they ever passed thru the airports!
Fortget the arab terrorists dun it...they didnt., and 9-11 truth investigations confirm a lack of evidence they did...Guess who that leaves...

What would I know about controlled demolition. Hell it's not like my alias refers to it or anything.

Or...maybe you could check out my blog sometime.

Yep, that's me, saying Al Qaeda did it.

Edit:
Saying I think that Al Qaeda planted explosives in the WTC is not only offensive to me as a dedicated CD researcher, it's quite likely the most annoying and stupid straw man argument I've ever heard.

That is a very good point, but, in my opinion, the FBI has no evidence of Bin Laden's involvement because...nobody cared!

They already knew where they were going to bomb and what they were going to do! Due process had nothing to do with it...

So whether or not they're would have strong evidence of Bin Laden's involvement, the White House couldn't care less.

The relevance when bringing the FBI evidence issue up is in that context the justification for the war on terror and the war in Afghanistan (there is hardly any), and the comparison of evidence fingering Bin Laden vs. evidence fingering the CIA, ISI & Mossad! There is much more evidence proving the latter than there is evidence proving the former!

In my opinion both sides (the false flag side and the jihadist side) need to pay the price for what they did. And no, I don't believe Bin Laden is innocent of 9/11. This Kafir is no Dhimmi.

The FBI did not say it has "no" evidence of OBL's connection to 9/11. It said it has no "hard" evidence, which means it has no documentary proof, just coerced confessions and the infamous video. The evidence it has would not stand up in a regular court. To dismiss the entire existence of al-Qaeda (whatever it is) and Bin Laden when talking about 9/11 is irresponsible and ignores the evidence as we know it.

I agree wholeheartedly. You summed it up much better than I did.

'That is a very good point, but, in my opinion, the FBI has no evidence of Bin Laden's involvement because...nobody cared!'

Not so....they cared enough to have OBL on their most wanted list..ad had there been any real evidence for his role in 9-11,theyd have posted it.. The Bush govt cared enough to saturate the media with Bin laden done it! The FBI has proven a bit more honest.

Some people in 9-11 truth need to be sure its Truth and not muslim bashing or speculation that is their interest.

'In my opinion both sides (the false flag side and the jihadist side) need to pay the price for what they did'

see? Theirs no evidence there were any jihardists involved, no arabs at all! So why speculate there were?

There is no evidence you exist either. How can I make sure your comment is even real?

That flight training, was all of that fake too? Did ghosts fly planes in Venice? Did Rudi Dekkers hang out with a ghost? Astonishing!

We are entering an exciting new avenue of 9/11 research. Absolutely everything is fake. Atta is so fake he never even existed, so he can't be dead either.

Maybe Atta is so fake, he's simply too fake to be faked. He's an optical illusion of fakery. That what all these people in Venice saw.

The guy in the security video? Fake. He lives on an island somewhere. Plastic surgery.

ISI wiring $100000? Fake. Video testaments? Fake. DNA evidence? Fake. Witness at the airport who boarded the hijackers? Fake. Fascinating.

Hamburg cell? Fake. Ali Mohamed? Fake. FBI warnings? Fake. Saudi involvement? Fake. All prior knowledge of the attacks? Fake. Able Danger? Fake. Wow.

Yeah, I'm just "muslim bashing". Islamic terrorism is REAL, brianct. Get over it.