Obama Lied: Taliban Did Not Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden December 4, 2009 OpEdNews


December 4, 2009 at 01:38:59

Obama Lied: Taliban Did Not Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden

By Ralph Lopez ) Page 1 of 2 page(s)


For OpEdNews: Ralph Lopez - Writer

Obama slipped past a real doozy Tuesday night when he said the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden. It just ain't so. They tried three times to open negotiations for this, but Bush refused each time. He wanted to bomb people so bad it hurt.

UK Guardian:

A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night...

For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan's military leadership said.

The Taliban have offered to hand over Bin Laden before but only if sufficient evidence was presented. Bin Laden is wanted both for the September 11 attacks and for masterminding the bombings of two US embassies in East Africa in 1998 in which 224 people were killed. He is also suspected of involvement in other terrorist attacks, including the suicide bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last year.

But until now the Taliban regime has consistently said it has not seen any convincing evidence to implicate the Saudi dissident in any crime.

"Now they have agreed to hand him over to a third country without the evidence being presented in advance," the source close to the military said."

Combined with so unhesitatingly waving the Al Qaeda boogey-man to make his case, in a fashion Bush would have been proud of, (Al Qaeda isn't in Afghanistan) it all makes me mighty suspicious. The Taliban wasn't declared an enemy until after 9/11, even as we had evidence that bin Laden was behind the bombing of the USS Cole. That's because Bush's buddies were still hoping to get the contract for the oil pipeline, which the Taliban government was refusing to give them. These are just facts, I'm not even trying to make an argument here. But someone has to call them on these things.

The history is at the classic essay by Richard Behan which went viral on the internet soon after it was published (re-printed at Afterdowningstreet.org ):

From its first days in office in January of 2001 the Administration of George W. Bush meant to launch military attacks against both Afghanistan and Iraq. The reasons had nothing to do with terrorism.

This is beyond dispute. The mainstream press has either ignored the story or missed it completely, but the Administration's congenital belligerence is fully documented elsewhere.

Attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked, however, directly violates the charter of the United Nations. It is an international crime. The Bush Administration would need credible justification to proceed with its plans.

The terrorist violence of September 11, 2001 provided a spectacular opportunity. In the cacophony of outrage and confusion, the Administration could conceal its intentions, disguise the true nature of its premeditated wars, and launch them. The opportunity was exploited in a heartbeat.

Within hours of the attacks, President Bush declared the U.S. "...would take the fight directly to the terrorists," and "...he announced to the world the United States would make no distinction between the terrorists and the states that harbor them." [1] Thus the "War on Terror" was born.

The "War on Terror" is patently fraudulent, but the essence of successful propaganda is repetition, and the Bush Administration has repeated its mantra endlessly:

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talk about a real doozy ...

"We do not seek to occupy other nations..." no, it just happens...

"We will not claim another nations' resources... " no, our corporations can do that for us.

"or target other peoples ..." oh no, never, not us...

"What we are fighting for is a better future ..." for the military industrial establishment...

Lies, damn lies and propaganda!

Same PIG Different Lipstick

It matters not what creative euphemisms Obama uses to attempt to justify an illegal war. He's continuing the globalist NeoCon agenda in violation of international law.


You nailed it. I plan on quoting this as I stir up the pot in my little corner of the world.

So did Hillary...

Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

Great Post Jon

Thanks a lot.

Ron Paul is a gem sometimes.

I just wish he would come around on 911 Truth and realize it IS an Inside Job.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Ron Paul knows

Ron Paul knows, or must at least be highly suspicious, the 9/11 was a staged event. He supports a new investigation. I think he just doesn't come out with it because it could undermine everything else he's worked for. Cynthia McKinney is a good example and I believe he doesn't want to end up like her. That's my guess anyway.

peace all


"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, and the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense..."

- President Eisenhower; April 16, 1953

despicable ...

how can this lot lie like that and get away with it? They're really no better than the bushies.


They pretend to be so "progressive" and "caring". Bastards

That's cos...

That's because it's the same forces in the background that are running the show......

There will never be "change"

until those forces are exposed, put in jail or dead.

It's all pretty simple. isn't it.


At about 1:30 watch both Hillary and Bob Gates look down and apparently swallow nervously in perfect unison.
I'm not an expert on body language but it seems there is a moment of vulnerability to the truth as expressed by Ron Paul.
Tell it like it is Ron. Shame the f#$%ers.

Good catch. I agree.

You're probably quite skilled at observing non-verbal communication. Give yourself credit ;-)



Ask Obama for Colin Powel's promised white paper on Bin Laden

Herblay FRANCE,

bonsoir ,
perhaps someone can remind Obama that the world is still waiting for Colin Powell's promised white paper proving Bin Laden's guilt !


Was this yet another lie by Colin Powell.

Yours John

Alfred Nobel must be rolling in his grave over the peace prize !

Herblay FRANCE

bonjour ,

OBAMA on the surface a false nobel peace prize man but underneath a true nobel warmonger prize man ( 10/12/2009)

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+ 30 000 soldiers in Afghanistan to do what ?
To continue George Bush's murderous and laming work ?

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Bring the troops home NOW and leave the Afghans to lead their own lives and make their own mistakes !


This point was driven home at last year by yours truly at an anti-war rally in Chicago, and again this year by someone else not even associated with the local Chicago 9/11 Truth movement. My point is, this is a Huge point that needs to continuously be driven home with the anti-war community, among others.

Obama lied. Thousands more will die.