Noticing a trend?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

jesus christ - the 9/11 commission admitted in an august 2nd story in the washington post that they considered criminal charges against norad for knowingly giving false information.

Jesus. we should be filing criminal charges against the commissioners themselves for still publishing their report.

we have the evidence of wrongdoing STARING US IN THE FACE and people are still talking about squibs????

fine - the building was demolished. fine. can we get down to the business of holding people accountable now? can we? can we start with the people who have demonstrably lied to us?

or should we continue to talk about molten steel for the next year?

are we allowed to ask why our military did not protect us on 9/11? are we permitted to ask that? most people can understand that a helluva lot easier than CD.

our airforce was missing for 2 hours.

hello?

no - lets continue to debate physical evidence. lets forget that the liars are still alive and accessible - and can be held accountable. train the young to hold up signs of squibs. i am sure the perpetrators of this crime LOVE IT.

and this article proves it.

but it doesn't mean anything when what they say makes no sense.

controlled demolition is nothing like the magic bullet theory--again and again, Jon, we will have to point out to you that building 7 was an obvious CD, and it doesn't take much to go from that easy step to understanding that the towers were also CD. In fact, if building 7 was CD (as it obviously was) it would be a giant leap to assume the towers were anything but, and that is not even taking into consideration the destruction of evidence, the molten steel, the eyewitnesses to explosions, the simple fact that as constructed they could not have collapsed in the manner observed without using explosives--I mean, it doesn't get any more slam dunk than that.

I welcome your interest in the Pakistani connection, and don't periodically lash out at what I think is a secondary issue and call it a waste of time. Some people, though, take every opportunity to criticize controlled demolition as a waste of time any time the MSM prints a hit piece focusing on it. WE do not decide what the MSM publishes. Are you really suggesting that if WE focused instead on foreknowledge and other LIHOPpy stuff, that the MSM would suddenly say--OH MY GOD, how can we refute this! We're going to have to write about it! And agree with the conspiracy theorists to boot!

Of course not. The reason they talk about CD and the Pentagon is because these are the most obvious problems with the OT, and if they don't attack on these points, they know people will assume that the "conspiracy theorists" are on to something. If the things you're pushing instead are so incredibly powerful as evidence, then why does the MSM not attack them? Maybe because they know people are more intrigued by the physical evidence?

You want to talk about going in circles? Chasing a few passports as if they were real people? Blaming "hijackers" who are still alive and making videos as part of their cooperation with the perps? Please! People care about the TOWERS, not some cokehead agent's wire transfer. Nobody was killed by that wire transfer.

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First of all... Pakistan is not the only thing I focus on, yet, you repeatedly act as if that's the case. It is not.

Secondly, to say the "reason they talk about CD and the Pentagon is because these are the most obvious problems with the OT" is complete, and utter bs.

The REASON they focus on CD, and the Pentagon is because it just SOUNDS crazy, and they FOCUS on that "craziness", and use it to make us look crazy.

Third, the absense of our military that morning is the absolute smoking gun that nobody seems to focus on.

Finally, if you think Pakistan is LIHOP, you are sorely mistaken. If you don't know why, then I can't help you. However, I will say that the Pakistan Connection goes DIRECTLY to the White House.

Who was responsible for the Controlled Demolition? The Mossad? The CIA? The FBI? I've heard all kinds of culprits, but the Pakistani connection only goes to one place, and that is DIRECTLY to the White House.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

provide us a link of the Pakistan connection going straight to the white house?

georgewashington.blogspot.com.

A link that shows Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmed, the man who ordered Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammad Atta was meeting with Goss, Graham, and according to 9/11 Press For Truth, members of the White House at the time of 9/11? I will look for that story later on Paul's timeline.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

May 2001: Tenet Visits Pakistan; Armitage Calls on India Richard Armitage.
Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, a former covert operative and Navy Seal, travels to India on a publicized tour while CIA Director Tenet makes a quiet visit to Pakistan to meet with President Pervez Musharraf. Armitage has long and deep Pakistani intelligence connections (as well as a role in the Iran-Contra affair). It would be reasonable to assume that while in Islamabad, Tenet, in what was described as “an unusually long meeting,” also meets with his Pakistani counterpart, ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed. [SAPRA (New Delhi), 5/22/2001]

September 4-11, 2001: ISI Director Visits Washington for Mysterious Meetings
ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed visits Washington for the second time. On September 10, a Pakistani newspaper reports on his trip so far. It says his visit has “triggered speculation about the agenda of his mysterious meetings at the Pentagon and National Security Council” as well as meetings with CIA Director Tenet, unspecified officials at the White House and the Pentagon, and his “most important meeting” with Marc Grossman, US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. The article suggests, “[O]f course, Osama bin Laden” could be the focus of some discussions. Prophetically, the article adds, “What added interest to his visit is the history of such visits. Last time [his] predecessor was [in Washington], the domestic [Pakistani] politics turned topsy-turvy within days.” [News (Islamabad), 9/10/2001] This is a reference to the Musharraf coup just after an ISI Director’s visit on October 12, 1999 (see October 12, 1999).

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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

"Hey Mahmoud, could you , like, wire some dough to this agent of ours so we can later say there was this Saudi guy getting money to pull off an operation that is actually going to involve having three WTC buildings owned by Larry Silverstein demolished? Thanks, buddy--check your Swiss bank account afterwards--it will be worth your while!"

"Sure George, will do."

Then India is told to go ahead and leak out the info that the money came from Pakistan, worth their while, etc.

So, Pakistan ends up screwed for helping out Tenet, Tenet gets the medal of freedom, and we invade the middle east and let Larry collect his jackpot and build a freedom tower.

In other words, Pakistan is a state-patsy, nothing more nothing less, and a distraction from the real crimes--the destruction of a building on top of thousands of human beings, which Pakistan did nothing to facilitate.

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DIRECT link I should say? :)

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"unspecified officials at the White House" don't you understand?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

You're 100% correct.

We should not focus on facts like members of the White House meeting with a financier of the attacks of 9/11.

That's just stupid.

Instead, let's focus on theories.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Read this and see if it resonates with anything being discussed here...

"The ISI played the part of a worthless pawn in Operation 9/11—as insignificant as the hijackers themselves. The stakes of the game are much higher—the strategic military might of Pakistan and other Muslim states, and the Muslims’ struggle toward self-determination. The ISI was used as simply an individual intelligence asset of the CIA. The question we must ponder is: What will happen when it is time for the chess masters to discard the ISI, particularly when the ISI’s fingerprints are all over the 9/11 crime scene? It matters little if the ISI knew little or nothing about the scope of the crime. The remaining evidence is all that matters.

Since the ISI has been such a valuable asset for the planners of Operation 9/11, it is highly unlikely that the agency itself will ever face the charges laid against them—Pakistan will be held responsible for the ISI’s cooperation in its various dubious activities. It seems that immoral agencies and individuals always undermine the existence of their home nations and bring misery to the world, and Pakistan will soon find itself increasingly bearing the consequences of the ISI/CIA partnership. This vicious cycle will lead to a downward spiral—ISI’s direct or indirect participation in crimes will be used to punish Pakistan. Musharraf’s story be a dull shadow of Saddam’s—a tale of the "good soldier" who salutes, gets promoted, is used and abused, and is finally discarded."

http://english.alarabonline.org/display.asp?fname=2006%5C09%5C09-27%5Czc...

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I saw this as well...

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=187766

Mark Robert's tells us about the lies regarding WTC7...

At least your article doesn't deny Pakistan's involvement.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Mark Robert's is a prick.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

You just keep outing yourself, Jon, like this 9/11 Truther:

http://911blogger.com/node/3011

"The puffs of smoke coming from the towers and wtc7 may not be proof, but they look like explosives. That is concrete evidence and proof that it looks like explosions. Don't you agree?"

It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality.

Since when does not something looking like something not evidence. If you see a person clearly and there are video tapes of that person commiting a crime and that person looks exactly like the suspect you have in custody, that is evidence against that suspect. You agree with that right, if not then all those people in jail because of security cameras should be released. The visual evidence of building 7 collapsing indicated it was controlled demolition because it looks like it was controlled. I am at a complete loss why you think that video tape is not evidence. What are you thinking?

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Aren't "patsies" the person/people that the Government puts forward in order to hide the real culprits behind something?

Pakistan's involvement wasn't mentioned in the 9/11 Report, and the media completely ignores them.

It seems to me that Pakistan doesn't fulfill the job of patsy. In fact, it seems to me they more fit the role of partner.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

LOL check the disruption agent right here sniffing out the infighting and pouring fuel on it. Get of this site shill!

where are MY anonymous shills?? >snif<

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Nice try and thanks for the laughs!

Essentially that the Director of Central Intelligence meeting with, months before, a man who helped to finance the attacks of 9/11, and that same man meeting with several different people in Washington D.C. at the time of 9/11 isn't the least bit supicious?

Hmmm... I guess the funding behind 9/11 is of "little practical significance."
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

did Atta use the money to plant the explosives in building 7? really, what is Atta alleged to have used the money for?

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