John Conner's college campus tour continues at the University of California San Diego.
Brilliant, top man.
His illuminati stuff is crap
Can anyone produce evidence that the name "illuminati" is used now. Of course it was used in Bavaria back in the late 1700's, that's proven fact. When John uses the term illuminati he should use "shadow government" or "secret societies" instead.
Otherwise that video is great.
...is much more effective....
infiltrating our government, and the freedom of the press is in jeopardy???
Can you imagine Bush giving that speech????
(Don't...your head will explode....)
"This administration...intends to accept full responsibility for our errors...and we expect you to point them out, when we miss them...."
11/22/63: The Day the idea of America began to die.
If you understand JFK's assassination (why they did it) and aftermath (how they benefited), you understand 9/11.
not just JFK though, all the killings of leftist leaders in that short time frame were connected. MLK,RFK,JFK, and X. same team did them all in my opinion.
and who had a key position in the CIA during those killings? the same guy who was vice president when Reagan was shot. Hinckleys brother is a Bush family friend by the way. its like a friggin movie. and one thats not very believeable at that. the Bush family history would make for a truly amazing movie. its a damn shame that its not fiction. ok, im done talking to myself now,haha.
You can add John Lennon to that list, too, I think.
i forgot about him, not as much evidence as the others to show it was an "inside job" but still very very possible. the guy who killed him fit the mold of manchurian candidate like the other "lone nuts".
....has a patriotic desire to benefit all of America and has the credibility and charisma to potentially lead the public. I wouldn't rule out JFK Jr. and Pat Tillman for the above list. Paul Wellstone. Princess Di and her Arab boyfriend could've been troubling for their future wars also, if they were to speak out...
The above is admittedly highly speculative....
"I try to be paranoid, but I can't keep up"
right on. and dont forget Mel Carnahan, who would have been a key opponent to the Cheney agenda. Tillman was clearly murdered in cold blood(shots to the forehead). there were reports that Tillman was smarter than we might have thought, and that he was vocal in his opposition to the Iraq war while being for the Afghanistan war since he was under the impression he was looking for Bin Laden and company. i dont know what to make of that case though. Paul Wellstone was truly a great man. and he was a politician. so rare. i was heartbroken when i researched and came to the conclusion he was likely murdered.(Fetzer wrote a tremendous book on the killing of Wellstone, check it out.) highly speculative, but in all cases more likely than the "official" stories and backed up by more evidence. do yourself a favor and read this article on the RFK killing. for something in a paper thats very mainstream, its actually very good.
Did the CIA kill Bobby Kennedy?
Today would have been Robert Kennedy's 81st birthday. The world is crying out for a compassionate leader like him. If dark forces were behind his elimination, it needs to be investigated
i wouldnt rule out JFKjr either. there was a reason the search was slowed down on purpose. there is a reason the Navy spokesman lied on the air to millions of americans. numerous times. JFK jr wanted to run for Senate in New York from what i hear. and from there, who knows. that must have been scary to the elites.
and to add one more thing to that, JFK jr was on record as saying he saw Oliver Stones JFK and he enjoyed it(as much as you could enjoy something like that being in his position). that fact alone would send a shiver down the spines of some very powerful people.
Today on Contessa Brewer's show on MSNBC they were reporting from ground zero about the new building's foundation being built and right behind the on scene reporter was a huge 911 was an inside job banner being held up by two guys. It was awesome. They had to break away from the reporter and Contessa asked him about the protestors and he said they were there but never mentioned what they were protesting though. It was plain to see though. It really cheered my day up and I'm glad for these guys who are successfully putting this information out. I can't believe more people aren't willing to look into this. Geez. I thought Americans were tougher than that.
We'll get it though. The 5% critical mass factor really has me optimistic. Thanks for this website too. Let's keep it up.
thanks for the tip man, very cool.
Is it possible to get Loose Change videos so that I can pass them out in Manhatten? Somebody know somebody? Or is unnecessary to promote in NYC because so many know already?
Its cheap and its easy.
the same under "action items" at the upper right-hand side of the 9/11 Blogger screen.
(BTW, it's been my observation that most people in NYC do NOT know the truth about 9/11.)
....this time...looks like Mr. Connor, a modern day Patrick Henry, is tightening up his message...
Another example of how everyone in the movement can be a "leader" (all it takes is a DVD burner and some passion).
(All right, people...let's see these videos from all over the country...)
Very, very cool.
Starting to like this guy... aside from the "Illuminati" references, this takes A LOT of courage to do.
"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
may be correct that it's not good to lead-off with that.
Has anyone seen Freedom to Fascism, and who or what is the Federal Reserve aside from being a private bank we are giving all our money to.
I've researched a little into the Federal Reserve and that seems to be the basis of control for the people ruining the masses. We definitely need to go after the root cause and publicize this information.
http://www.themoneymasters.com is the resource I first came across.
Thanks Orangutan, the only problem Im seeing is that the DVD's that really put the nails in the coffin are copywritten, loosechange is having a huge impact because its free more or less. I dont understand how people can research information like this and not do everything possible to allow it to get to the masses. Sure they need to make some money to recoop their time into it but hows it going to change things if its difficult to get it out there, this goes for 911 Press for Truth, Freedom to Fascism, Terrorstorm, and the one you have a link to although I havent seen it yet but it looks good and once again copywritten.
Yeah. I know what you are saying. I've burnt them anyway and passed a few copies around. I feel bad, but it's more important to educate the society. I don't think the forefathers would blame me too much. Also. I know the money masters set was on Google Video for awhile. The guy wants it taken down. It is an in depth documentary, but I wouldn't say it is great or anything. Very formal and text book style.. full of information though.
Anyway. You're right we need to get this stuff out there. Like Michael Moore said... sneak into the R rated movie "Farenheit 911" when they made it R rated. I think he also says steal the movie, burn it, do whatever it takes to get it out.
It sucks, but as we can see.. we are winning this battle. I can't believe these guys are letting us do this stuff on the internet anyway. It seems too easy. I'm surprised they haven't censored it yet, or controlled it, like they say they want to do in their document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" PNAC website.
Here is the link bro to the Google Video of The Money Masters. No Problem.
See for yourself.
Don't let the limitations stop you if you don't have too. Most of the information we need is on the internet. Copyrights are good, but we can educate ourselves regardless.
Education is the key, its the only thing that will wake people up to the unpleasant reality of where this country is heading, and I just heard that Harry Reid us purposing 75 Billion more for the military, the neocons couldnt have done it better. I have zero hope these Dems will help us.
Way to stay optimistic. It's contagious.
But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...
In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...
Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.
It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...
In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...
....one way of getting college kids' attention is to show them how 9/11 Truth affects them directly (after all it was 5 years ago...a long time for an 18 year old)...
If we attack Iran, and with those carrier groups in the Persian Gulf, it still seems a strong possibility...we will likely have A DRAFT...that prediction should get their attention...tying 9/11 to a draft would bring this home for them and give them incentive to investigate further, IMO.
Just a thought.
Also, I think Jon's right: I would substitute the "Military-Industrial-Complex" for "illuminati" in Mr. Connor's oratory.
What a great job, though....
a draft being imposed is VERY real, but these students don't realize that! It should be mentioned!
i run into these yung'uns on an off-topic hockey forum that i'm obsessed with, calgarypuck.com, and i think if they're 18 now then they accept as bald fact what happened when they weren't as critical, as aware.
i have more trouble talking to the young / college kids than guys in their 20s, those broken by the world that ask their own questions...
as to conner, i love this video, and also how i have that exact outfit as my entire wardrobe!
Let the students know.
911 made way for the atomic war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the polluting of all the air on the planet by DU munitions.
If the students or their non-student friends are drafted then they will pay the highest price of breathing DU dust into their bodies, thus ruining their lives.
To know 911 truth is to be able to stop their own demise.
To know 911 truth is to be able to bring the USA a real 911 investigation which will expose the perpetrating "authorities"; bring them to justice; stop the wars; stop the DU poisoning of our earth; stop the demise of our constitution and STOP THE DRAFT. At the very least it will do this. It should also expose the evil predatory oligarchy which was behind 911. 911 is the cornerstone event to make the changes.
911 truth is life.
DU is being completed covered up by the Pentagon.
The following are just some major statements that the following DU article talks about.
The US has used more DU since 1991 than the atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs.
With now over 10 trillion doses of DU in Iraq and Afghanistan, it comes as no surprise that widespread field studies in Afghanistan point to the existence of a large scale public health disaster.
“Ingested DU particles can cause up to 1,000 times the damage of an X-ray"
Apparently, over 30% of Iraqis already have cancer, and there are lots of kids with leukemia.
US forces admit to using over 300 tons of DU weapons in 1991. The actual figure is closer to 800. Also the US used 200 tons more in Baghdad alone during the recent invasion with a total of 1500 tons in all of Iraq. And this time it wasn't limited to anti-tank weapons but was extended to guided missiles, large bunker busters and big 2000-pound bombs used in Iraq's cities. This means that Iraq's cities have been blanketed in lethal particles. Japanese professor, Dr. Yagasaki, calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs. The US has used more DU since 1991 than the atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs. The "smog of war" from the 1991 Gulf War was found in deposits in South America, the Himalayas and Hawaii. In addition, the use of DU in huge bombs which throw the deadly particles higher and wider in huge plumes of smoke means that billions of deadly particles have been carried high into the air swept worldwide by the winds. In June 2003, the WHO announced in a press release that global cancer rates will increase 50% by 2020. In 1997, while citing experiments in which 84% of dogs exposed to inhaled uranium died of lung cancer,
Extrapolating the UK AEA estimate with this recent amount gives a figure of potentially 3 million extra deaths from inhaling DU dust in Iraq alone, not including Afghanistan. Dr. Dan Bishop, a chemist for IDUST feels that this estimate may be low, if the long life of DU dust is considered.
With now over 10 trillion doses of DU in Iraq and Afghanistan, it comes as no surprise that widespread field studies in Afghanistan point to the existence of a large scale public health disaster. UMRC is the first independent research organization to find DU in the bodies of US, UK and Canadian Gulf War I veterans and following ‘Operation Iraqi Freedom’, they found DU in the water, soils and atmosphere of Iraq as well as in Iraqi civilians.
The Pentagon/DOD, UN regulatory agencies (WHO, UNEP, IAEA, CDC, DOE, etc) and the military and the weapons industry have all interfered with UMRC's ability to have its studies published by managing a persistent misinformation program in the press against UMRC and destroy the reputation of its scientific staff, physicians and laboratories.
UMRC is not alone. “Ingested DU particles can cause up to 1,000 times the damage of an X-ray", said Mary Olson, a nuclear waste specialist and biologist at the Nuclear Information and Resource Service in Washington DC.
Also, a 2001 study of DU's effect on DNA done by Dr. Alexandra C. Miller for the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute shows DU causes 1 million times more genetic damage than from its radiation effect alone. Just 467 US personnel were wounded in the 3 week Persian Gulf War in 1990-1991. However, out of 580,400 soldiers who served, 11,000 are now dead, and by 2000 there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. This means that a decade later, 56% of those soldiers who served in Gulf War I now have medical problems. DU is also in the semen of soldiers. In a group of 251 soldiers from a study group in Mississippi who all had normal babies before the Gulf War, 67% of their post-war babies were born with severe birth defects.
The American Free Press (2005) reported that 40% of the soldiers in a unit that served in 2003 have developed malignancies in just 16 months.
I would say that it [DU] is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people.” Writes Leuren Moret, another DU researcher, “… Inhalation of nano-particles of depleted uranium is the most hazardous exposure, because the particles pass through the lung-blood barrier directly into the blood… through the nose… directly into the brain… Many Gulf era soldiers have brain tumours, brain damage and impaired thought processes.
John Hanchette, a journalism professor at St. Bonaventure University, and one of the founding editors of USA TODAY told Moret that he had prepared news-breaking stories about the effects of DU on Gulf War soldiers and Iraqi citizens but each time he was ready to publish, he received a phone call from the Pentagon asking him not to print the story.
A medical doctor reported being trained by the Pentagon months before Gulf War II to diagnose and treat soldiers returning from the 2003 war for mental problems only. Medical professionals treating returning soldiers were threatened with $10,000 fines and with jail if they talked about the soldiers or their medical problems.
Since then, following leukemia in European troops in the Balkans and Afghanistan (where DU was also used), the EU has twice called for DU weapons to be banned. Yet, far from banning DU, the US and Britain stepped up their denials. The British authorities have even abolished military hospitals so that specialized research on the effects of DU and treating DU among the soldiers is impossible.
Thank you for posting this.
We're committing genocide by DU. Deeply, deeply disturbing. This war of American aggression is criminal to the core. To describe this administration as War Criminals is almost an insult to the (original) Nazi's.
Perhaps Conner (and others) could weave this into their future encounters with American college students:
"The Iraqi war is a nuclear war. Depleted Uranium use by America is genocide. We have poisoned those countries for thousands of years and killed countless civilians. Our soldiers are now having babies with birth defects and then dying because of it. If America attacks Iran, there will be a forced draft of people your age. Drafted to fight these wars of profit, kill Middle Eastern civilians, and be exposed to DU. These wars are justified by 9/11, and 9/11 was an Inside Job, 9/11 was a Lie. The exposure of that lie can end this madness and criminality. This DVD is the information needed to bring about that exposure"
Or something like that.
There's also a video called "Beyond Treason" out there just about DU alone. http://www.beyondtreason.com/
Just ordered a 10DVD duplicator. Have given out hundreds. Now that will be times 10.
Just do a search like this in ebay http://computers.search.ebay.com/dvd-duplicator_Computers-Networking_W0Q...
They are not that expensive anymore. Hell I paid more for my first 1X dvd burner.
Dvds are about 24 bucks a hundred at newegg.com w/free shipping on certain ones. I'm using Ridata
we have to keep trying
I've put together a 5 DVD set as follows:
(1) Press for Thruth
(2) Dr. DRG The Myth & Reality
(3) Loose Change 2E
(5) 9/11 Mysteries
The blank DVD's are cheap and I buy the slimline jewel cases from the dollar store - 5 for a buck!
Not only that, the 5-disc set fits perfectly in a ziplock sandwich bag...so well it looks shrinkwrapped!
In the end, it costs about $2 - plus your labor to make a professionally looking set.
Here is the sleeve I include with it:
I've been writing 9/11 truth links on $1 bills, let see would I get any back in the future.
Buy a customized stamp...you'll save arm strength!
says 911 = Inside Job on it.
It's the Italian subtitled version.
People hear "illuminati" and they turn off. The elite is made up of multiple factions relying on "rolling consensus" but often bitterly opposed. There is no evidence that there is one single entity pulling everyone's strings, nor does that seem plausible. I have no doubt that there are many secret societies we haven't even heard of, groups with enormous power, but elites are not even close to the "unification" stage -- at least, all evidence points to the contrary. We should try to stick with what we can prove rather than veering off into David Ickean terrority.
Other than that, Conyers is hardcore. Very entertaining and I'm sure he woke alot of people up. This is what we need: balls, imagination, creativity.
however valuable, shouldn't be the used in the context Mr. Connor uses it..that is, in a confrontational verbal manner with the uninitiated....he should, and he mostly does, stick with verifiable facts....(and then including, IMO, the prediction of a draft)....
Societies/"Think Tanks", with varying degrees of secrecy such as the CFR, Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, PNAC CAN be tied to 9/11 in a legitimately conspiratorial way, however....it's just not effective in the otherwise admirable methods John Connor is employing...it will make the 9/11Truth-unaware turn off....
This is a great idea...I will begin as soon as I recieve my laptop. Thank you for sharing this information. Very Patriotic!
I think the most obviously effective approach was to stand on the campus mall and yell, handing out DVDs. A lot of people were interested, it's completely legal, and it gets people's attention! You have to believe in your cause to do something like that, and people have a thirst for this knowledge!
The more "confrontational" approach is in the classroom - and as a teacher I see it from the profs' standpoint - beacuse you're using class time.
While it's not a bad move, you're going to get more opposition that way, with people asking you to leave, and being less receptive than you'd like. Also, cognitive dissonance will be a problem, and people might be less likely to accept your opinion if you use derogatory terms or harsh language.
It's not their fault they don't know this stuff - and it takes time to wake people up - so maybe do more yelling about the facts and less confrontation about being "zombies."
Overall, though, a big thumbs up! Keep up the good fight!
the man has balls.He is DOING something.He should cut the Illuminatea crap though.on go easy on the Zombie stuff.
if it's kept pretty brief. The reason being, an event like that is going to get talked about extensively ("You will never believe what happened in Developmental Psychology this morning!") even by people who don't buy his message, just further propagating the meme. The profs looked pretty amused, actually.
I agree, the mall was the most effective. I also believe in only giving DVDs to people who reach for them.
Going further, when funds are tight, i think that asking $1 for a DVD might be good in that it is more sustainable and increases the chances that the person watches the DVD.
This is a bit different in that there is a movie being made and the guy clearly has balls.
Finally I like the handing out deception dollars and some of the cards from peaceproject.org because they are really cheap in volume and they offer another media.
Good to cover all bases.
i love how Conner calls them zombies. what would you think if somebody called you a zombie? wouldnt you be a bit offended and wonder why he called you that? i know i would and if i wasnt already awake i would probably take a dvd just based on that alone.
"fags" and "queers" - great guy, just top notch.
....do great work....I'm sure there are less than admirable aspects to all of us who post on this blog....
Don't let that detract from this man's inspiring example in 9/11 Activism.
And hopefully these videos will inspire many other people to do the same. And hopefully those people won't be bigots.
.....(distasteful as they may be; I haven't watched those videos....and I'm not defending anyone's bigotry), have to do with a blog devoted to 9/11 Activism?
We aren't going to be able to vet everyone in the movement, and we are going to disagree with one another on any number of beliefs and philosophies. Finding common ground on 9/11 Truth and how to spread it, is the focus here, not magnifying all our various foibles and making that an emphasis.....the criminals behind 9/11 are smiling when they see us doing that...
Based on what I see in the video, his guerilla activism stands on its own, IMO.
What do those views have to with his 9/11 activism? Not too much, per se. However we're not just talking about his personal "views" here. These videos are another side of his other activism. I'm just letting people know about it. Do whatever the hell you want with that information.
What should we do what that information? You're the one providing the information, so tell us what we should do with it.
In fact, you're the one who started the flame-war with this information, so tell us what to do with it.
Before anyone gets too amped up about this guy, s/he really needs to check out his website and see the context he puts 9/11 into -- waaaay more objectionable than talking about the Illuminati.
I'm not saying his work is completely without merit, but thank God he's just passing out Loose Change and not some DVD that goes into his own whacked-out theories. Again, before someone inevitably jumps down my throat, I'm willing to separate his public appearances from his website and judge them on their own merits. Frankly, though, my concern that "infamous Satanist Aleister Crowley wrote instructions for sacrificing children to Satan in his books" ranks way, way below my concerns about, oh, for instance, the content of "The Grand Chessboard."
(And BTW, the Crowley work he alludes to here was his deliberately cryptic writing about masturbation, and the "children" to which he refers are sperm.)
Conner has dispelled that myth.
Did he say that in the video? I wasn't aware of that. I really wish Christians would start embracing Jesus' message instead of propagating hatred and bigotry and therefore doing the opposite. Alex Jones will say "I don't hate homosexuals" one day then equate them with pedophiles the next. I believe that this is one of the reasons many "leftists" shy away from 911 truth -- they don't wanna be associated with brain-dead religious literalism and ridiculous "unified field theories" a la the "illuminati".
In the video, he sounds pretty reasonable, although he does mention the "illuminati." It's on his website that he gets way into the anti-Satanist stuff. I didn't notice anti-gay stuff in my cursory examination, but YT (I think) had found some obnoxious anti-gay material that had been pulled from youtube or google. Anyway, the website is linked at the top of the blog, be sure to check it out for yourself.
in these videos:
Don't get me wrong, I'm down for Conner giving out as many LC2 dvds as he humanly can.
Other than that, I don't want anything to do with this goofbag.
mispelled "Connor" as "Conner" throughout your post & in the screenshot of the videos. Did you do this deliberately, it sure looks so to me?
His name is spelled Conner. Conner recently removed these videos from youtube - the screenshot I provided shows the search results for "John Conner" and "gay" on youtube as of two days ago. Now go fuck yourself.
screen screen shots of his supposed videos? Why do you feel the need to curse me? Are you a shill? (Sure looks that way.)
P.S. try to stick to 9/11 truth on truth websites. I don't really care if this dude likes gays or not, got it?
And FYI, if you're going to call someone "shill" then get a name, anonymous.
We tolerate a very wide spectrum of beliefs here, but all of us have limits. I don't care whether you care if this dude likes gays or not, but it's one of several relevant factors to me, so you can go fuck yourself. Got it?
Either stay on point with 9/11or take your complaints to a gay-rights website.
You can't read very well, can you? Would you enjoy having a publically active member of the KKK or Aryan Nation being a highly visible truther, too?
To me, it sounds like everyone who has a problem with his bigotry in other areas still supports his 9/11 work -- and I think that makes us pretty damn generous and accepting.
So take your complaints to a semi-literate bigots-rights website and STFU.
denying gays the right to get married.
Of course it matters. Why? Because it's all about framing. If the debate on 9/11 gets framed as a bunch of right wingers who hate Bush because he's not conservative enough are using 9/11 to lash out at him in addition to their other bogeymen, then that could be a problem. On the other hand, as long as we work noth sides, i.e. have plenty of left-wing and centrist (god i hate these labels but...) approaches, then we'll cover all kinds of bases. At the same time, let's be very careful about letting goofbags like Conner get too much attention. Eevery one of us has every right to pick which 9/11 activists we want to promote. I'm no fan of cutting anyone all the slack in the world because they're "one of us". Bull.
Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
DVDs. Now, all of a sudden, he represents & speaks for the entire 9/11 truth movement???
Please, stop bullshitting me.
Are you are there spreading more truth than Conner? I don't think so.
It's now clear this guy is a bigot and worm. I should have seen the pattern with such chauvinistic bravado.
If your so-called "religious beliefs" entail hatred of gays or other "mass" groups, the last thing you are is righteous.
Jesus said love thy neighbor and judge not. Hating an entire group is fascist, not Christian.
of anit-gay bigot--your goal all along. Be advised, there are some of us here who are a bit too smart to fall for you bullshit.
Read the summaries of his own videos that he wrote himself. He has every right to be an anti-gay bigot - I just don't want anything to do with it. "Normal people" indeed.
that are no longer on the web? Hmmm.....
Let's bust the mass murderers for 9/11 first, and then we can debate who doesn't like gays or not.
no, not case closed on him, but if thats how he feels he has to live with the response. it seems most of the people here are rightfully speaking out against his bigotry while praising his work on spreading 9/11 truth. that doesnt sem like case closed. sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. its really not that big of a deal. as long as he keeps his homophobia under wraps while doing 9/11 activism i will applaud him. you cant get all bent out of shape because a few people on a message board are rightfully scolding the guy for being homophobic. same with ALex Jones, the guy is a true patriot, his heart is in the right place, but hes not above criticism and his views on certain subjects(gays,god,global warming etc.) are straight up ridiculous. that doesnt mean i dont appreciate the hell out of what he does overall.
are all over the place today, or perhaps one anonymous troll. The strategy is, try to sound all supportive of 9/11 Truth, except, except...
and then just waste our time.
But that's a great post, Chris -- well put. "Straight up ridiculous" is right.
haha, thanks. yeah, i saw you giving it to Mr. Contrary over on the Steve Watson/Molten Metal thread. typical tactics.
for ages--as boogeymen that we need the gov't to protect us from and to thus win our votes. Same thing was done, and still done, to Native & African Americans.
Let's break open 9/11 truth first, and these serious social/political problems can be tackled next.
shill marking that post down, like many of the others.
no offense man, but if you had a name, or at least a number so we could tell you Anonymous guys apart, im guessing people wouldnt be as quick to give you negative points on your comments. hell, that might be the only reason why some people are giving you negative points. just a thought.
and I am not a shill. (You need to imagine me doing my lame ass Richard Nixon impersonation here.)
The reason I did is two-fold. For one, I disagree strongly with the idea that we're going to drop each and every other concern while we deal with 9/11. The fact is, people on this board, including me, bend over backwards to be congenial to and accepting of people with vastly different perspectives. But there is a limit beyond which people are going to be critiqued. There is certainly no more harm to "the movement" in that than there is in being a self-promoting homophobe and simultaneously being a self-promoting truther who deservingly achieves some prominence.
The other equally important reason is that you can't even pick a fake name for yourself so we can keep track of which voice is yours. For all I know, you're the same guy who posted above and who I concluded was just trollishly trying to bait me by trying to boss me around. Your opinions get a lot more respect (of the agree-to-disagree variety) when you are a registered user or you at least pick a fake name.
Yes. This is character assassination on Connor.
Nice dig YT...
I guarantee the bastards who are tasked with supressing the 9/11 Truth movement have been working overtime with creative was to infiltrate and supplant themselves as leaders and icons of the movement.
COINTELPRO is in full effect. Scrutiny of individuals whom propel themselves into the front of the movement should be eyed carefully.
The movement has matured to the point where there is a enough honest people who can expose these frauds as soon as they pop up, Lt. Chavez is a PRIME example. They pretend to be for the truth but have an agenda to discredit or disrupt the movement.
They have 60+ years of experience of covert tactics in affecting public opinion (Terrorism is just one aspect) and we have to be ever vigilant to see we are not deceived.
One of the side effects of this COINTELPRO against 9/11 Truth is that it have solidly replaced the #1 reason I know 9/11 is a Lie, if it was not, there would be NO COINTELPRO against us.
.....why would he be showing the whole movement how cool it is to get out there and regale classrooms of college kids with Truth info and then have a blast handing out DVDs to cute co-eds?....
Shit, if I were in college right now, after seeing this, I'd be burning DVDs all night and be on the mall tomorrow awakening my fellow students....
Nowhere does JC try to put himself up as a "leader' of the movement; I just see a guy having a blast turning on people to the Truth....
fake icons aren't used until they can do the most damage (i.e. Reynolds/Woods). Until then they do what ever they can to establish credibility.
I say let them spend energy establishing credibility, but also we should not limit our scrutiny when they stand with us.
The most effective enemy is an enemy who gets inside the city walls.
Now, if the guy is not following some alternate motive, well frankly I think we all have the right to call him on that as well. How the hell do you think we got into this mess we are in now? The systematic dehumanizing of entire groups of people by the elite class. Its wrong. So either way this guy is a worm.
I'd like to know what's coming, rather than be all rah-rah John Conner and a couple of months from now be SURPRISED to find out he's a gay hater. Now I can be all rah-rah with my eyes wide open to his limitations, which is basically the tack I take with Alex Jones.
The fact that he pulled those videos right when he put up the Truth ones suggests to me that he realizes his attitude toward gay human rights is not going to fly with a lot of truthers. Or that he's realized the error of his ways (in which case, he could update his website.)
truth activism he has on his site: http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/index.php
Do you have a link? Do you need to agree with all truthers' every belief to spread 9/11 truth & demand justice for mass murder & high treason?
Your post sounds like sly truther-bashing to me, shill.
Check out the program with Wayne Madsen. It was about a week ago. And BTW, just 'cause someone doesn't agree with with the concept of "Homosexuality = pederasty" doesn't mean they are a shill.
Criticizing people we otherwise admire can be positive. Remember that.
No one here said "Homosexuality = pederasty", and neither did Alex.
....I listened to that show at the time and that's not how I remember it...it seems to me they talked at length about the Republican pedophile scandal (which so far has been of the man/boy variety) or on closeted gays in the party that uses anti-gay rhetoric for political gain and the hypocrisy of that.....both topics that deserve exposure, IMO....
...I didn't hear any criticism of openly-living law-abiding gay people....or the gay lifestyle, for that matter...
If Alex is critical of gay people's behavior, in my experience, it is in those two contexts, pedophilia and political anti-gay gay hypocrisy (both of which are justifably criticized, IMO, but hey, that's just me)....if there is evidence to the contrary, I stand corrected, but I'm not aware of it...
BTW, I hate the turn this blog took, but I suppose we'll survive....
did because certain people deliberately disrupted it by trying to slander Alex Jones and to try & smear John Connor's/Conner's truth spreading.
were not intentional smears...I believe Alex is sometimes misunderstood and some people were rightfully offended by Conner....
Bush's CIA days. Perhaps Conner was trying to make inroads into the rightwingers. They're tough nuts to crack.
Much as I applaud Conner for his efforts, his approach is a turn-off for many folks. If he shows contempt for those he wishes would embrace the cause- he's going to be a bitter recruiter. Take off the dark glasses too.
IHis approach is great with this type of crowd. Plus he does it with a smile. He is agressive in a positive way. No reason he can't have fun in the process. Thumbs up.
to see that so many college students don't know anything about 9/11 truth, and are so apathetic about it.) Thank God Connor & others are waking them up!
mostly worthwhile work, john. loose change turned me on to 911 truth when the band liars premiered it in london. i've since researched my way out of recommending loose change, but it is an effective starting point, especially for the short-attention span crowd largely making up our college campuses. by the way, i use illuminati references when i want to make people laugh, not when i want to be taken seriously. i do admire his cajones though.
Rockefeller has 20 trillion dollars.
Rothschild has 100 trillion dollars.
Illuminati or spuminati these two guys are pulling the strings.
And if Conner's likes calling then Illuminati then that is fine by me. Of course would be better if he named the Federal Reserve, Rockefeller and Rothschild
Rockefeller is a major owner in Exxon, much of the pharmaceutical industry, and has shares in the Federal Reserve. He is chairman of Citibank. I am sure he has countless shares in the military industriai companies such as Raytheon. He is the top dude in everything and wants to be the first world czar, he is also the top Bildenberg dude I am sure.
I don't know as much about Rothschild. But with 100 Trillion large I am sure he even pulls Rockefeller's strings. BUt of course Rothschild is the major controller of the Bank of England (the UK's federal reserve) which is also a private institution like our Federal Reserve Bank.
Conner's is right on. Seeds have been planted and some will reproduce 1000 fold.
The students at UCSD have probably never been introduced to another paradigm in their life. They have been pickled in suburbia, tv, high school, sports and the mass media. So, I can understand it if they do not know the real story. But they were eagerly grabbing loose change cds from Conner.
I agree it would be nice if Conner started talking about the draft and DU (depleted uranium). It sure is not depleted in killing human beings. Its still as deadly as the non-depleted stuff.. 11,000 soldiers from Gulf war 1 had died by 2000. Over 300,000 have been disabled. This has been silenced by the media.
Did you know that 56% of the soldiers that went to the Gulf war are disabled today. Its because of DU. In Vietnam it was only 10% disabled, agent orange. And in world war 2 it was 5% disabled.
These students should know they need to run for their life. If they were to go to the middle east and are not killed or wounded by rifle fire or a bomb blast, they could not escape breathing the DU radioactive particles that are released into that middle east air. If they survive and have children, their children have a high liklihood of having birth defects. This is a major catastrophe in the making for all the soldiers fighting the present Iraq debacle.
His name is John Conner...with an E. that''s the way he spells it on his own website. Next you'll be saying Jimmy Connors is really Jimmy Connor....dearie me.
His confrontation strategy can be effective as long as he is careful not to stumble and cross over the line of turning people off to the movement.
In any event it was nice to see so many students coming up to him to take the DVDs.
effectively like John Connor did. One could stand outside the gates of a college, in front of City Hall, in the middle of your town's business district, or on Main St, USA, etc. and do the same thing.
If you were in a library and someone were to yell out "Oh my god?! nine one one was a lie?!" and go off like a babbling idiot, would you listen to them? I believe a lot of this stuff. But if i saw him in my school i'd punch him in the face.
I can't be sure, but it appears that Conner crashed classes taught by TAs. They looked timid and didn't take control because they don't feel the lecture hall belongs to them. Many big university TAs are not native speakers of English, making it harder for them to assert control or become confrontational. They're easy targets as a result. Great way to pick your battles, John!
I hope this guy’s for real because that was really good for the most part. I'll still never blindly support anyone though, even if they say and do all the right things. I do agree with his stance on some of the other issues like the crazy “Georgia Guide Stones”, I’d like to see those things taken down also. But “The Resistance Manifesto” still razes my eyebrows. It’s great if it’s just an idea he had and he put it all together, there is no way I’d follow something like that but I can respect the effort if it’s a genuine one. But if it’s something else, and it’s about trying to get people co-opted and following a “leader” then that’s what I’m weary of. If he keeps doing things like this, and it inspires others to do the same then that’s only positive as far as I can see. But if he starts going on natonal telivision and making himself look like a nutcase after telling the world that he “Speaks for the 9/11 Truth Movement” then that’s something else.
Even though it does sound a bit wild, I do believe that the “elite” who ordered 9/11 are also into very bizarre “Occult” shit. Rome had the “Cult of the Emperor” for example, and that basically acted as the perfect tool to brainwash members of the hierarchy and maintain the system. So he is right to some extent, although when you shout about “the Illuminati” you’re going to be associated with stereotypical conspiracy theory bullshit like David Icke’s Lizard men etc. But I also think that there are probably opposing forces among the “elite”, some of which are good so it’s not like just all dark. The actions of the dark “elite” (like 9/11 etc) are the ones we associate as being the charter of the whole set up, when there are actually two camps with the other being opposed to tyranny. But that’s just all speculation lol, what’s fact though is that it’s all a bit odd and secretive whether good or bad, if you look at the street plan around Washington DC and the capital it’s full of bizarre esoteric shit like pentacles and pentagrams and even an Owl (like the one in Bohemian Grove) actually over the Congress building.
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I was actually looking at a few videos on this shit on Google video a while back and I'd warn people not to do that because some of them are really f*cked up like they've been made by psy-ops or something, with really disturbing fast flickering images and odd sounds etc.
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