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Pressing for the Truth on 9/11 - The New American (current issue)

9/11 Press for Truth effectively presents some of the most glaring discrepancies, lies, and coverups concerning the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.

Henry Kissinger "nearly fell off the couch." He spilled his coffee on himself. He was visibly shaken. The next day he announced that he was stepping down as chairman of the 9/11 Commission, the post to which President Bush had named him a couple of weeks earlier. What had caused the always poised and famously unflappable "Dr. K" to come unhinged? Why the abrupt resignation from the chairmanship he had so recently accepted amidst such fanfare?

The day before his resignation, Dr. Kissinger invited a small group of 9/11 family members to the New York office of Kissinger Associates, the premier global consulting service to presidents, princes, potentates, and corporate executives. The date was December 12, 2002. Kissinger, no doubt, expected them to be putty in his hands. After all, he is the fabled, gravelly voiced eminence who has strode across the world stage for the better part of half a century. Wars, revolutions, financial panics, political scandals, and economic crises — he has come through them all, not only unscathed but almost apotheosized to demigod status.

But the ever calm and supremely confident diplomat was unnerved when Laurie Van Auken, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Center, said the families wanted him to disclose his client list to assure there was no conflict of interest. She asked if there were any Saudis among his clients and if any were members of the bin Laden family.

Kristen Breitweiser, another 9/11 widow who was there, gives this account of the meeting: "Kissinger told us to trust him. We told him we couldn't.... Kissinger seemed stunned.... He didn't understand the fuss about his client list — they were all reputable people, he said. Kissinger seemed stricken and became unsteady. In reaching for his cup of coffee he bobbled, knocked the pot, spilled his own cup and nearly fell off the couch."
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9/11 Press for Truth asks, for instance, why NORAD fighter jets weren't scrambled on that fateful morning. Fighters are sent up, on average, more than twice a week to check on planes that have strayed off course or are not responding to the FAA or local air towers. This happens routinely — more than 100 times per year, and without any major signals that a hijacking or terrorist attack is underway. Why, on September 11, 2001, did this air defense system uniquely — repeatedly — fail, even after the first plane hit the World Trade Center and it was blindingly apparent that we were under attack? The 9/11 Commission Report's explanation, which contradicts four previous explanations by federal officials on this matter (all four of which also contradict each other), is fraught with discrepancies, errors, omissions, and contradictions.

The 9/11 families are still demanding to know what really happened and why? Ditto for other unexplained (and seemingly inexplicable) subsequent events such as the repeated "escapes" of Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders in Afghanistan — apparently courtesy of the governments of Pakistan and the United States. 9/11 Press for Truth presents interviews with Gary Berntsen, the CIA's field commander in charge of Operation Jawbreaker, the agency's hunt for bin Laden in the caves of Tora Bora. Berntsen and others have charged that bin Laden and large convoys of his followers were repeatedly allowed to get away when they were about to be taken by U.S. forces. When the Taliban and al-Qaeda legions were trapped by U.S. forces in Kunduz, Afghanistan, in November 2001, the Pakistani government sent in planes to airlift the terrorists to safety in Pakistan, with the apparent blessing of the U.S. government.
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This documentary is important not only for its content but for its professional packaging and high production values, which add to its credibility. But its main value may lie in the hope it gives that common, ordinary people — without office or power — can make a difference. It transcends partisan politics and should be seen by all Americans who are committed to justice and are determined to secure our country against similar — or worse — attacks in the future.

Thanks to parrotfish for the heads up!

Fantastic...

Write-up...



"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."

Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member

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Kiisinger got Trashed in the Movie

I've screened 911 Press for Truth twice for mostly uninformed people and the response has been overwhelming. I believe it is the key film to introduce anyone into the Truth Movement.

not talking about the movie

not talking about the movie per se---but the article...which is going to be in the fake msm----- puts a pro kissinger spin on it

we gotta remember to nail mossad for this too----there are some people that just want 911truth to be about blaming bush----

jeez----trying to make kissinger look like the good guy??

thats freeking hilarious

Agreed, greenback

9/11: Press for Truth is the first film I show anyone who is unfamiliar with 9/11 Truth and I think is especially good for introducing women to 9/11 Truth as it follows the Jersey Girls heroic struggle to find the truth.

I usually follow it with Ken Jenkin's fine film of David Ray Griffin 9/11: The Myth and the Reality and then 9/11 Mysteries.

I have one copy and will be getting more as loaners and I also plan on giving some to libraries and my local video store so they can rent it.

I'm hoping to screen it as part of a local 9/11 film festival in the near future, as well.

Anything to get the truth out there.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Be well.

Sweet

I also plan on giving some to libraries and my local video store so they can rent it.

What a great idea! I'm going to make some videos right now.

the dvd

I'm not sure if the dvd

I'm not sure if the dvd rental place will rent out a burned copy. Probably best to buy 911 press for Truth from the film's site at the bulk rate, like a minimum of three for a cheap rate, I think? They sure could use the money to get this film marketed to the larger audience. Mainstream Media will not assist.
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

Follow the money.

Israel is just a satalite government. America's bitch in the middle east. Why do you think America gives them so much money and so many death weapons?

(The Israeli people are some of the coolest people I have ever met. It's their government I have a problem with.)

Israel is not "just a satellite"

If it were America's bitch, then why is the bitch constantly spying here? Why does the bitche's lobby in the US corrupt so many of our politicians. Sorry, but Israel is no friend or bitch of the U.S. The truth will come out and there will be consequences.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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Enough!!!

RANDKILLER

Spell out your beliefs for us..... you are convinced of them obviously....

Please!

Please.... put pen to paper..... lets see what you beleive.....exactly.

can you give us your perspective in no less than 500 words?

then tell us how we can win this war for truth....

tell us who we shoud focus our efforts on.

give us the questions we need to be asking and to whom we should be asking

Show "youre just gonna have to" by Visitor

You got me

I'm a shillass....

wait?

untill then.....just keep standing on the sidewalk and pointing.... and when someone asks you what you are pointing at......

Just GRUNT!!

i think that got posted to

i think that got posted to the wrong reply......

man i did this long killer post for you and it got erased during posting

hold on

i'll try this again al

i'll try this again

al quaeda is controlled oppostion fake terror for the fake israel first people to try to manipulate people on tv

911 was a made for tv event to try to galvanize u.s. into endless fake war on terror to benefit the plutocrats----the anthrax attacks and attempted mexican natl parliament bombing were also part of it

cheney(cfr)/mossad(silverstein)

building 7 is the smoking gun that 911was an inside job
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now what i'm proudest of with the 911 truth movement so far is that all the people on the computer brought attention to the post 911sickness victims--and now congress is moving to give them compensation
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what we've been debating alot lately is whether or not they used nukes----
--->in the ';israel' /lebanon conflict this summer the un nuke detection teams said there was no nuke use-----

but then the harwell laboratory from oxford said there was

this proves that govt nuke detection teams cant be trusted----all the 911sickness victims have illnesses that are just like what hiroshima victims had
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another thing we've been discussing alot is the israeli involvement---cause no one wants to hurt jewish peoples feelings but everyone wants the truth
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the revelation of the 911hoax is the key to a total infinite nanotech paradise for all people for all time

I guess I just don't get

I guess I just don't get it??

one point not covered in the

one point not covered in the film is.....

in oct 2001 mossad agents were caught red handed with bomb materials trying to blow up the mexican national parliament building

total smoking gun showing mossad involvement in 911attacks

it would be foolish to believe in freaking henry kissinger

question

hey RANDKILLER; im from mexico and Ive never heard of that plan to blow up the mexican national parliament bulding; however, I dont really follow the news here; my question is, do you have any links to sites that have info on this story?? Im really interested in learning more about this!!
Thanks!
my email es cualcrees@hotmail.com
I appreciate any help you can give me!

google the 4014

google the 4014 references----gradually people are learning this stuff

google 'hundreds of mossad

google 'hundreds of mossad agents caught running wild in america indymedia'

on oct 10 2001, cnn made a brief mention of a foiled terrorist plot in the mexican parliament building. they promised to bring any further developments to the story to their viewers.......

the mexican papers on the other hand------>

it turns out they were mossad and they had fake pakistani passports

here's the story about the mexican bomb plot. open your eyes!

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_...

Then there was the fake al Qaeda cell (a redundancy I know) that Israeli intel was trying to recruit Palestinians in Gaza for.

I'll say this again and again--pretending Israel was not involved in 9/11 in a MAJOR way does NOT HELP JEWISH PEOPLE. It does the opposite.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

How is inolvement in an

How is inolvement in an October plot in Mexico a "smoking gun" for their involvement in 9/11?

at BEST it shows a disposition, if it is true. Not evidence or proof.

if there is mossad agents in

if there is mossad agents in the western hemisphere
with freaking bombs----trying to blow up a national parliament building

in the country right next to us----while we're simultaneously getting attacked by anthrax

right after 911-------

it's a smoking gun -----gittit?

Why?

So Mossad was going to simultaniously attack the Mexican Parlimentary?

Were the boms planned for 9/11?..... were they going to attack Canada too?.... is that where flight 93 was headed?.... to Toronto?

the Mossad wanted to unite all of North America against their enemies in the Middle East?

what was their angle to fit in Osama? why does Osama hate Mexico and their government?

they hate our freedom and our financial stability and our military.... they hate Mexicos government and encilladas? What were they going to attack in Canada?

a beer factory?.... They hate beer!! ....that would have pissed off the Canadians.

Wouldn't have been easier to bomb the US embassies in Afganistan and Iraq?..or is that too obvious?.... maybe bomb the US embassy in Israel.... a self infliced wound that would have brought the force of the US

I'm really trying to put this together

it comes off like youre a

it comes off like youre a shill if youre real flippant about mass murder

especially in this freaking forum

true conflict ---

trying

Trying to milk some pertinent theories here....

I do not believe this is the proper angle to attack and I just want whomever believes that it is to better explain it to me....

It's obviously not that obvious.... please help me connect the dots.

all I'm getting is pointing and grunting

can I get a couple of paragraphs.... please

Not saying you are wrong.... but I need to know your angle

Strong Evidence of Israeli Connection...

(1) Mossad with bombs in Mexico
(2) Alleged APAIC Spy Ring
(3) Dancing Israeli's
(4) Odigo forewarnings
(5) Silverstein Properties
(6) Qui Bono

I know mentioning Israel on any 9/11 forum strikes a nerve in some. But is it fair to ignore all this?

"it comes off like youre a

"it comes off like youre a shill"

I didn't think so. I thought it was just facetious hyperbole to make a point.

But what YOU are saying, however--and how you're saying it, almost like someone trying to use "shill" to start a flame war.

Cavere...

nah I think he's got a point

JJJames can't possibly not get it, sorry. There is clear evidence that Israel played a major if not the major government role in 9/11 and its new american century aftermath. It used traitors in the US who are more Israeli than American, like Doug Feith. What's the confusion about? I think JJJames knows exactly what we mean. Israel at least helped to attack America (and Mexico, and Spain, and Britain, and Bali, etc.) in order to turn the entire world against Muslims. It's not confusing, it's patently obvious that if anyone was behind such an anti-muslim plot it would be Israel. The fact that 200 Israeli spies were deported after 9/11, and that the owner of the WTC was a Zionist, and that the judge to whom all the 9/11 cases have been stovepiped is also a Zionist, and that AIPAC is one of the most feared lobbies among American politicians, I mean, it doesn't take a genius to put two and two together, does it? What exactly needs to be spelled out for you JJJames?

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

"I can't not get it" ...

"I can't not get it" ... sorry... that's funny=)

I'm not trying to start a flame war.... I just want to know how this helps our cause.... I know we are Israels bitch but I want to know how we can use this.... is this a viable route to get this to trial.

what can we prove? and how do we best present this for maximum affectiveness?

What do we do if Israel was behind all this?..... because it was our own government which carried it out wether the Mossad put the bombs in the WTC or not.

It's our government that is covering up for the guilty or themselves....either way they are guilty and we can prove that.... we can prove that Israel was involved but can we prove that they were pulling the strings?

I want to know what you think that pursuing this will do to help our cause.

Do I like our alliance with Israel..... not necessarily.... but if we were not steadfast with our alleigance to them.... without the world knowing we had their back..... we would be witnessing the end of the world at least as the bible spells it out. Is Israel and the Zionist faction taking advantage of our support.... it's very likely.

Are they in total control.... I'm unaware. Not very educated on their level of influence.... or their motivation... the ends to their means.

Is it all about money?.... is it a religious thing...are we pawn in their holy war?

Because I can grasp the motivation of Bush and Cheney and all their assbag friends..... I can see this very clearly and I can take this to the masses.

Please give me an angle in which to take the Israeli connection to the people.... Give me an angle in which we can use this to our advantage..... I have a very open mind.... I see it but at the same time I'm not ready to spread it.

For clarification my comment

For clarification my comment about a flame war was addressed to anonymous-unverified--not you. I know the thread gets hard to follow after a page break. I think you were just asking for clarity from anonymous. Which I support on general principles--lately I don't trust ANY anonymous unverified post out of hand.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

OK thanks JJJ

I appreciate that you have clarified what your issues are, which helps me see that you aren't "playing dumb". Since that is so often a shill tactic with regard to 9/11 I may have just assumed you were being disingenuous.

I think the problem with not holding Israel accountable is that first, the American government did not do 9/11. Neither did the Israeli government. No government did 9/11. Individuals inside and outside of the government did 9/11.

It would seem that those individuals came from both America and Israel, and probably other places as well. These people all subscribe to a certain view of the world that has more in common with the Zionist state as it exists than with America as it exists. Why is that? Not because it was a flase flag attack per se, because America has plenty of experience with those, depending on who the enemy du jour is. But because this was a false flag attack targetting Muslims.

Not just that but as we can see by who swooped in ready to seize the opportunity, i.e. the neocons, that strengthening the Zionist state was seen as one consequence of 9/11--clearly the event was designed to make Americans sympathize with Zionists.

Let me say at this point why we call it the Zionist state. First of all, Israel is not sanctioned by Judaism. Sure, once it came into being people fell into line, but before it existed it was considered an atheist blasphemy--playing God by having men and power politics "deliver" the Jewish people instead of a holy Messiah. Zionists decided that for their own political gain they would assume the role of "defenders of the world's Jews" and began a campaign of false flag attacks to convince Jews around the world that they were hated and that they should move to Palestine and fight for a state.

See where this is going? In 2001 Americans were attacked and told to go fight. They were told that they must stand with Israel (now and forever according to Nancy Pelosi). To what end? To allow the Zionists to consolidate their power and achieve tehir goal of making Israel whole, i.e. eliminate the whole idea of a Palestinian state. It seems that the first idea as evidenced by the dancing Israelis was to pin this on Palestinians. This must have seemed beyond the pale even to the Bushes who depend on support from Arabs, so it was decided instead that it would be pinned on bin Laden.

Who planned what? Who lied to whom about what was being planned? Who knows! But what we do know is that however and by whomever it was planned, there was the intention to align the US with Israel against the Arab world as a result. To use this realignment to radicalize Arabs and Muslims against both Israel and now against America to prevent any reconciliation or rapprochment that could lead to Israel having to compromise anything, but mainly its territorial gains from war.

This is a right wing project--not all Israelis would support this obviously, and most are in much deeper psychological denial than even Americans--they were, after all, Zionism's first victims.

We are ALL in this TOGETHER. Just as Americans have to acknowledge that our government must be cleaned out of criminals, so must Israelis. And the end result is not the destruction of their country--it will be a transformation from a Zionist state to a state of INCLUSION and harmony. Of reconciliation and reform of divisive belief systems. The holy land must be made whole, but NOT UNDER RACIST ZIONIST RULE! It has to be something born of unity, period.

Yes, the process will be humbling for many. And that is a good thing.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

all roads lead to israel

good post!---really gets to

good post!---really gets to the heart of things

Follow the money.

Israel is just a satalite government. America's bitch in the middle east. Why do you think America gives them so much money and so many death weapons?

(The Israeli people are some of the coolest people I have ever met. It's their government I have a problem with.)

911=95%mossad 5%cheney it's

911=95%mossad 5%cheney
it's not about 'the jews'

Since Israel is a satelite

Since Israel is a satelite government-- the proper term is "client state", btw--shouldn't those numbers be reversed? Or have I gotten the wrong Anonymous? You the same one? Or are you responding to the first one?

See how coming up with a name, any name, helps? Takes the guess workout of a comments forum, love.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Other way around buddy.

Other way around buddy. America is Israel's bitch. Why do you think America gives them so much money and so many weapons? AIPAC!!!

And yes, the Isreali people are cool.

very interesting(and long)read

Alexander Cockburn and the Politics of 9/11

Joseph Murtagh
Muckraker Report
Tuesday, December 12, 2006

December 12, 2006 -- Now that we’ve reached the point where even the New York Times has stopped blaming the war in Iraq on al-Qaeda, it’s probably safe to say that as long as the information about 9/11 remains on the internet, there are going to be fewer and fewer people believing in the “official story.” There are some reactionary types who have taken it upon themselves to champion the government’s cause, but in general I think it would be extremely difficult for people from both sides of the political fence to watch a movie like 9/11 Press for Truth and not come away feeling that there is something seriously amiss about the way 9/11 has been represented to the American public. Which means the problem now is no longer convincing people that there are anomalies in the official story, but of trying to keep everyone who feels that there’s been something incredibly weird and insane about the structure of reality in America over the last six years on the same page.

Because right now, very few of us are on the same page. Instead where we are is on a kind of continuum. It begins with people like the editors of the New York Times who while they might not question the official story of 9/11 no longer believe that the government’s propaganda is an accurate reflection of reality and who now realize that if you’re really intent on solving the cultural division between east and west, talking about the “ideological struggle of centuries” is probably not the best way of going about it.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/121206cockburn.htm

Show "cmon chris...not you" by RANDKILLER2006 (not verified)

don't worry Rand, this is to be expected

forums like these are one of the last hopes of people trying to give the truth movement one last false turn. not gonna be happening. once 9/11 truth hits the mainstream and debate is de rigeur, EVERYTHING will be on the table. EVERYTHING. That's what they meant when they said 9/11 changed everything. Not really, but i't cuts both ways, and it's true! :)

I can't wait for everything to change!

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

who the fuck are you? its

who the fuck are you? its just an article, dont get all bent out of shape. im not trying to "cause false turns" like RT rudely implied. you people need to calm the fuck down.

i did not mean to imply that's what you were doing

But responding to what RAND said about Israel being ignored, which is a big problem in the movement. There is no question but that this site is used by disinfo agents, and there is no question that one of their goals is to keep Israel out of the discussion. There is nothing uncalm about this.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

ive been called anti-semitic

ive been called anti-semitic enough times to know im doing anything but ignoring Israel. even on this site ive unfairly gotten that tag more than once. i agree completely that ignoring Israel a problem and i only wish that it got as much attention as potential fall-guy Pakistan has gotten. exposing the Pakistani angle is important, but in the big picture exposing Israels role will lead to so much more in my opinion(the spying,the lobby etc.). its not a matter of putting one over the other though, just dont ignore either of them is what i say.

i hear you, sorry again

I should have been more careful given that RAND was replying to you so naturally it sounded like I was getting on your case in the same way he seemed to be. Mostly I felt that RAND had a point to make and I wanted him to see that the site is not overrun or censored. Ironic that in doing so I inadvertently jabbed you, who do in fact have a balanced approach.

It does frustrate me though--for example, I was truthing recently and two students walked by and one explained to the other "yeah, they say the Jews knocked down the towers" and walked on. That kind of comment is first of all wrong and second of all more harmful than helpful to those the speaker thinks he is standing up for. Because after that couple passed by, a very nice young woman stopped, asked if the DVD I was giving out was Loose Change (no, 9/11 Mysteries) and took a copy and thanked me. She will undoubtedly wake up and probably for the first time in her life feel the "anti-semite" slur. Will she then ignore the truth she now so clearly sees? Not likely. More likely she will wonder why people are calling her an anti-semite.

Then, when as I anticipate happening shortly, there emerges a debate on campus that cannot be ignored, very divisive lines will be drawn that will make some people--namely non-Zionist Jews--feel themselves in a terrible bind. At that point, defending Israel by denying the truth about 9/11 will not be tenable, but the damage will have been done and the necessary process of reconciliation and healing will be delayed if not permanently derailed.

This is a very dangerous game that some people are playing, because they are gamblers who realize that it is now all-in time. They can't see that there is no hope because they simply do not have a Plan B--it was never supposed to reach this point in their plan. Sadly, they will not be content going down in flames alone--they will be trying to drag others down with them--and that is something we have to deal with. That is why there is no place in our movement for hatred. We have to approach the most difficult truths with the most heartfelt feelings of solidarity with those who have been deceived into false beliefs.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

Off topic

The person that runs this blog often has some really insiteful peices written, I highly recommend it. Today he has posted several videos from youtube that are of a presentation by Ian Crane on the 911 and 7/7 connections. Its definitly worth a look.

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/

On topic, Kudos for 911 Press for Truth!

I agree that Press 4 truth

I agree that Press 4 truth is an excellent beginner video, although I'm still wrestling with the psychology behind waking people up. Ken Jenkins, director of the David Ray Griffin video's, spoke briefly on the subject as part of his talk at an event this past Sunday here in San Diego. If anyone has any ideas regarding successful strategies I'd be curious to hear about them. I'd like to apply some psycholgical principals to our local factivist efforts in order to make them as efficient as possible. One thing Jenkins mentioned is that often charging a small fee, like two dollars, will actually result in more people watching the DVD's. Apparently there is some sort of psychological investment that is made when people give something, even if it's not much, the leads them to watch something they might not have had they been given it for free.

This was a great article. Momentum is a beautiful thing.

Peter
SD911truth

It's true about charging

It's true about charging some gratuity.

When I was just begining as a working artist I made a common mistake many craft people make--charging too little. People(who don't know the medium) make a value inference, deciding because it's cheap it isn't worth anything. Strangely raising prices, especially for jewelry, raises sales. Mind, this only works for handmade quality items.

Those wacky customers...

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

you mean I'm not charging enough?

I should charge $2 insteead of $1? hmmmm....
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911dvds@gmail.com - $1 DVDs shipped - email for info

Don't be daft. I was

Don't be daft. I was refering to the quality hand-made art in my anecdote.

Okay, on reflection, I could have been clearer. I think either $1 or $2 is fine--the pricing range is different for mass manufactuered things. The point is that charging something communicates value.

Amazing finish to Kofi

Amazing finish to Kofi Annan's speech:

My friends, our challenge today is not to save Western civilization – or Eastern, for that matter. All civilization is at stake, and we can save it only if all peoples join together in the task. You Americans did so much, in the last century, to build an effective multilateral system, with the United Nations at its heart. Do you need it less today, and does it need you less, than 60 years ago?

Surely not. More than ever today Americans, like the rest of humanity, need a functioning global system through which the world's peoples can face global challenges together. And in order to function, the system still cries out for far-sighted American leadership, in the Truman tradition. I hope and pray that the American leaders of today, and tomorrow, will provide it.

Thank you very much.

in the Truman tradition?

Which one is that? The one of little midwestern wusses committing mass murder to show how tough they are? Puke. Kofi and his family are as corrupt as they come, and he has said zero for the last 5 years about the reality of the world's problems. Good riddance--not that his replacement is going to be any better.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

Show "posts against 'israel'get" by Anonymous (not verified)

i disagree there is a feud

i disagree
there is a feud between randkiller and some of the 911blogger admins

there is plenty of room for all opinions here---

sometimes it's easy to get overly analytical sometimes.
we're all on the same side here!!

no, his comment was just

no, his comment was just voted down by others on this site.

if you logged in you could vote it up or down too.

"if you logged in you could

"if you logged in you could vote it up or down too"

Yes, could all you anony-mooses please do that? It's very confusing.

Thank you, sir or madame.

I'm on your side Rand.

I'm on your side Rand. However, do you believe Mossad did it and Cheney did not know -- figured it out but is concealing it -- or knew all along as a conspirator? And where does Bush fit in all this?

Kiss made Nixon look good

Heard he frequently visits with GW Bush

http://www.rense.com/general14/kiss.htm

10-8-1

"Henry Kissinger in an address to the super secret Bilderberg Organization meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 said the following as transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates:

"Today American's would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." ___

"You have to understand. Future wars will be fought by capitalists and anti-capitalists as society polarises. When that happens, control of information will be as important as control of territory used to be in conventional conflicts. If you can stop your enemy from destroying your information, then you have a good chance of winning the war." ___ "

kissinger is about 'israel'

kissinger is about 'israel' first----

bush has always been their boy----even after 911 he was their punk cause aipac basically owned washington

but now bush is free-----2007/08

he is getting rid of all the pro aipac people in his administration and about to put things right on a pragmatic level for all people

not just misguided wannabe racists

PRESS FOR TRUTH- NOW at NETFLIX

PRESS for TRUTH- NOW at NETFLIX

We must be the change we wish to see in the world. M Gandhi

Hell Yeah!!

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Great write up, kudos Press For Truth!

I see a lot of people saying that this film is great for beginners. True, but this film is for everyone. I believe that the information presented in this film, is the corner stone of this movement.

MikeJr

Isn't it funny...

That a blog with a tremendous review of probably the most powerful 9/11 film to date is FLOODED with anti-semitic bullshit?



"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."

Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member

How do you figure???

Jon, I just read through the comments again, and I have to say your characterization of the debate as "anti-semetic bullshit" is way off base.

The above posts discuss the possible involvement of Israel in 9/11, not Jews in general. I don't think anyone here believes that all Jews on the planet are involved in a vast conspiracy, but the role of Mossad in various false flag operations in the past, and the relationship between Israel and the U.S. are things that simply cannot be denied.

Painting these observations with the "anti-semetic" brush just serves to further the interests of the architects of 9/11, and does a terrible injustice to regular, non-Zionist Jews everywhere. Please refrain from using the term "anti-semetic" unless it is truly deserved.

Several...

Statements such as "this is pro 'israel' propaganda" in regards to 9/11: Press For Truth is anti-semitic because the movie is CLEARLY not "pro israel propaganda", yet that's what it was referred to as... trying to incite anger towards Israel, and knock the movie to boot... Anyway. I didn't read all of the thread, but I think it's funny that every time 9/11: Press For Truth is mentioned, Israel is never far behind.

I find it to be interesting. Do we ever say, "pro United States propaganda" or do we say, "pro Bush/Neocon propaganda?"



"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."

Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member

in fairness, that was one

in fairness, that was one comment by one typical person who says that same thing over and over. he called me a shill in this very thread for allegedly posting pro-israel propaganda. the rest of the thread isnt anti-semitic, its basically one guy. everyone else just feels that Israel should not be ignored, which obviously is not anti-semitic.

I think we all need to

I think we all need to remember that being anti-Israel is in no way being anti-semitic.

Anti-Israel = Disdain for the government of Israel, their policies and their negative influence on America.

Anti-Semitic = Disdain for Jews based on their religious beliefs.

Two very different things.

I, myself, have no beef for any Semite or their religious beliefs. I don't care for the government of Israel all that much. We need to be careful on how people are being labeled and what you may think their motivations are. It suppresses the urge to speak out freely when people call you something you're not...or have apposing views that someone can mislabel, leading others to call you a racist or a Jew-hater.

Let's not get confused here.

that was a flood alright, Noah can't be far behind...

So the only motive someone could have for questioning the motives of the maker of this film is to "incite anger towards Israel?" And how is THAT anti-Semitic Jon--should we NOT be angry at Israel? Just at Paksitan? Even though Pakistan has not been caught repeatedly spying in our country? We should maybe thank them instead?

Why don't you say what you really think instead of saying it's "interesting"? Why is it interesting? Isn't it perfectly understandable since it is clear that Israel had much more by way of means motive and opportunity than Patsystan?

I think you have just been caught in a classic knee-jerk reaction, and instead of admitting you overreacted, you are trying to dig yourself some sort of justification for breaking out this ugly slur. And what is up with that question at the end? Do we ever say pro-Bush/Neocon propaganda? Hello? Do we ever--Faux News just for starters is obviously pro-Bush Neocon propaganda, as is the New York Times. Pro-United States propaganda? We swim in it daily.

The simple fact is that talking about 9/11 and discussing foreign complicity but not mentioning Israel is VERY suspicious and it is well within the bounds of civil discourse to suggest the makers of the film had reasons not to mention Israel.

For you to accuse people of bigotry for bringing that up is... interesting.

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we still love the Atheist Jews though!!!

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The evidence in 9-11 Press

The evidence in 9-11 Press for Truth implicates Pakistan, not Israel. Isreal might somehow be involved, but there is no evidence of that in this superb DVD.

I now suspect that flamers, even here, who want Israel implicated, may also want the whole 9-11 Truth movement smeared, by their flaming behavior. The particle beam advocates also seem to want that, as far as I can see. I do hope we all strive to write in calm words, persuasively and without flaming.

Let the flames show what they will: an attempt to smear the 9-11 Truth movement.

MIGHT somehow be involved?

Yes, and building 7 MIGHT have been the result of a controlled demolition. How can you say that people who post here WANT Israel to be implicated. Israel IS implicated by virtue of the presence of the Dancing Israelis and much more besides. We want that not to be ignored as PFT ignores it. And if we dare bring that up, out come the shrill cries of bigotry. Pathetic.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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has anyone ever told you

has anyone ever told you that you are overly aggressive? could you tone it down just a tad? seems like everything has to be a fight or something.

yeah, just like they did to Jesus!

and he told them--"I come not to bring peace, but a sword."

Of course he didn't mean he would literally carry a sword around, he meant that just because you're on the side of the good guys doesn't mean you aren't going to raise some hell. Of course people who fear what I say and would rather I not said it believe me to be too aggressive.

I suppose I could meekly ask people if they wouldn't mind so much NOT killing and conspiring and lying and spying and murdering and bombing, etc.

But then again, I could be aggressive and scare the shit out of anonymous shills like you.

Everything does not have to be a fight, but the cause of 9/11 Truth does, sorry to break it to you. That said, it's all for a good cause--it is righteous anger. Perhaps it makes you nervous. 'Welcome to reality, little truther! If indeed you are a truther (I tend to doubt it.)

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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real truther

you are my favorite poster, by far. let's just hope john albanese, or anyone else currently working on a 9/11 documentary doesn't ignore the aipac, neo-con, zionist, kroll associates, pnac connections. btw, are you really at harvard? i have a friend there who may be interested in helping you out on campus.

Off topic for 1/2 of this thread...

Since we are talking about Israel, has anyone else had any experiance with the "Israeli art students" at any of their businesses prior to 9/11. Our office would get these so-called art students every week trying to sell us their artwork, which they obviously didn't paint. They all had the same story, they were art students from Israel and they were trying to sell their paintings. We knew it was some kind of scam so we never bought anything, which irritated one of them so much that they clogged out bathroom toilet with toilet paper to get back at us. This happened in San Diego, where some of the hijackers were from and suddenly stopped right after 9/11, so I thought there might be a connection. Anyone know what this was all about?

---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.

T-Bone I remember you posting about this a while back...

but I haven't had any experience with them.

Looks like your priest got back to you about the DVDs???

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Yes he did, sort of...

If you checked my blog, you saw that he did this only after I followed up with another letter pleading with him to respond. It did suprize me that he was already aware of 9/11 truth and was of the same opinion as us, but he didn't want to get his hands dirty with any activism. He pulled a Pontius Pilate on me.

---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.