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New paper on NIST - WTC investigation at Journal of 9/11 Studies.

The NIST WTC Investigation--How Real Was The Simulation?
by Eric Douglas, R.A.

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The NIST investigation of the WTC building failures was extensive, but NIST did not substantiate its conclusions experimentally. On the contrary, many of NIST’s tests contradicted its conclusions. Furthermore, there are several examples in which NIST chose to manipulate input data, and then certify its findings based upon the inevitable conclusions that derive from the manipulated input. One finds little acknowledgement on the part of NIST that uncertainties in its simulations translate into uncertainties in its findings.

NIST’s physical tests were inadequate. Their ASTM E119 tests and their workstation burn tests were improperly modeled. Further, the former produced results that contradicted NIST’s conclusions and the latter fell far short of testing the performance of realistic steel members in the actual fire conditions. The workstation burn tests showed that the temperatures were generally too low, especially in the ventilation-controlled WTC environments. The ASTM E119 tests showed that the WTC floor trusses should have easily withstood the fires they experienced on 9/11.

There were also flaws in NIST’s computer simulations, including its impact simulation, its fire loading simulation, its temperature mapping simulation, its thermal/structural component simulations, and its global simulation. The LS-DYNA simulation showed that the aircraft would have done much less damage than NIST assumes, and NIST’s subsequent “scenario pruning” was confused and unsubstantiated. The decision to exclude the hat truss from the structural/thermal response simulations was a significant omission. The sequence of failed truss seats leading to pull-in forces on the exterior columns is central to NIST’s theory but not explained or supported by simulation.

This paper will conclude that the findings of the NIST investigation, although not necessarily incorrect, are not inherently linked to the reality of the failure mechanisms that took place in WTC buildings 1 and 2. The author calls on NIST to explain the discrepancies in its reports, admit the level of uncertainty in its findings, broaden the scope of its investigation, and make its raw data available to other researchers...

Continued...
http://www.journalof911studies.com/

Sears Tower Next?

The building’s owners have been interviewing real estate firms to take over leasing and management of the prominent skyscraper after last month’s surprising announcement that CB Richard Ellis Inc. would resign the assignment.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=23176

Mr. Goldman led a group including Mr. Cayre that put up most of the $125 million of the equity that Mr. Silverstein, a New York developer, used to buy the 99-year office lease on the Trade Center office portion from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. The deal, valued at $3.2 billion, including the Trade Center's retail mall, closed in July 2001, weeks before the September terror attacks that destroyed the complex.

http://www.searstower.org/news.html#A0387168949

those of you that ENJOY what

those of you that ENJOY what our country has become now (all the crap you go through in the airport, wire tapping your personal conversations, etc etc, )must support the NIST reports.

Its almost as if you WANT to become slaves AGAIN.
well, good for you idiots.

Just go live in a communist country and you will be PLENTY HAPPY. No voice, controlled completely by govt. - You should be perfect there.

Get out of the US if you don't want to fight for your freedom.

Yes, I agree with your assessment and....

....empathize with your anger here....

I do have one quibble.....what we are seeing resembles "Fascism" more than "Communism"....

While both can be Totalitarian (socialism, not always, of course, when free elections are allowed), the former is more descriptive of what we are seeing in our country today...

Instead of the State Ownership, we have private, corporate ownership that controls government. I don't see that going away, just wealth and profits being concentrated in fewer and fewer private hands. Those hands will continue to pick the puppets that are installed to carry out their wishes.

Also, another characteristic of communism is the outlawing of religion. Fascism just co-opts it, buys it off, and uses it as another propaganda arm. That is also what we are seeing.

NIST report is a fraud

Excellent, I saw this new entry into the journal and read some of it.

It's very important to remember that Kevin Ryan (and this paper) argues that the NIST report is largely based on computer simulations. They refused to release them.

Evidence that no one can see is no evidence at all!

Even more outrageous is the amount of distortion that they admit in the data.

 

On a different subject… I am deeply disturbed by the direction of Scholars for 9/11 truth. I had been a very strong supporter of this group and even considered joining. However, the recent actions of this organization—in particular their support of disinformation is deeply troubling.

A few days ago, Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds released an essay about Steven Jones. This Essay is now featured on the Scholars for 9/11 “truth” website near the top.

Their Essay is blatant disinformation. It is a shocking attempt to discredit Steven Jones’ research with unethical and deceitful tactics.

In summary, it pretends that Steven Jones is advocating a “Thermite Hypothesis” when he is advocating a “Controlled Demolition” hypothesis.

To counter this blatant disinformation I wrote an essay to expose many (not even half) of the stunning distortions that Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood have made about Steven Jones’ research.

We can’t let this stand. This is damaging to 9/11 truth. We shouldn’t tolerate this outrageous nonsense. If they are going to engage in such tactics we have to call them on it. We can't afford not to.

read their essay here: http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/JonesScientificMethod.html

Read my analysis of their disinformation here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/5124

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Disinformation

Someone should demand that Judy and Fetz release their W2 records for next year. I can only wonder who they may have received income from for this garbage.

Quit being ridiculous

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Why are you here? Why are you so concerned about 9/11 truth?

If this is all baseless garbage, why are you wasting your time posting here? Do you not have anything better to do with your time?

It's their job... 

It's their job... 

A heads up to

A heads up to everyone--though some have probably noticed it already--we appear to have trolls among registered users. DON"T PANIC AND START ATTACKING EACH OTHER WILLY NILLY. My suspicions are based on the -1 imgstacke had, as well as the anon above imgstacke, for a reasonable and civil question. I just rated you up to 0--this is not the first time I've seen this-especially early in a thread, before it has little traffic, a reasonable or thoughtful post sympathetic to the Truth movement or this site having a -1. It usually goes away as soon as the thread expands.

Again, DONT panic. If you find this anomaly, help a fellow truther and rate them up. And if this has happened to you--why did I get a negative for THAT?--it's probably because of a troll(mole?) among us.

Cavere.

Jenny, be sure to vote on anon posting

I just wanted to be sure you saw dz's poll in the "comment changes" thread.

We definitely have registered trolls -- we also have registered users playing with sock puppets by posting under a registered id and also posting anonymously. Slimy.

Cheers.

Cheers.

Please stop the "disinfo" accusations

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It is time to call a lie a lie. Now is time for 9/11 truth.

Wood and Reynolds’ essay on Steven Jones' non-existent "thermite only hypothesis" is a damaging blow to the pursuit of 9/11 truth. When someone contradicts their own statement a sentence later, call it what it is—a lie. Call blatant distortion of the facts what it is—disinformation.

Those of us who are in support of the truth about 9/11 shouldn’t tolerate this outrageous behaviour. It is an affront to everything we are trying to accomplish. Telling us to do otherwise is like telling us to accept the official story about 9/11--and then be quiet. It is time for the truth, not “our own reality” based on outrageously manipulated facts.

1. Steven Jones' theory is "controlled demolition" not "thermite."
2. Thermite is his "evidence" not his "hypothesis."
3. Attacking his thermite "evidence" as if it was his entire theory is a "straw-man fallacy."
4. This is worsened when no other evidence is acknowledged to exist--attacking thermite as if it is the ONLY evidence that Steven Jones has. What about free fall speed for starters? What about eye witness testimony?

What do you call this? The truth? I call it what it is--Disinformation.

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/JonesScientificMethod.html

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

How about Active Vectors of

How about Active Vectors of Untruthfulness :D

Amnesty

A little off-topic:

It seems that a lot of truthseekers have joined an animated online-demonstration against racism, on the Dutch Amnesty International-website. Instead of their nicknames, they fill in messages like "911 inside job". Check it out:

http://www.amnesty.nl/10dec2006/index.php

The 9/11 Fact File - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

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What about Press For Truth?

What about Press For Truth and Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime? Kind of hard to rebut, huh?

The 9/11 Truth Movement has to give up Denial

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Why are you here? Why are you so concerned about 9/11 Truth?

If this is all baseless garbage, why are you wasting your time posting here? Do you not have anything better to do with your time?

Because the crap you spread

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Ooooh... somebody's maaaad.

Where is the evidence that any innocent person has been "convicted of treason in the court of public opinion" anywhere OUTSIDE the community of truthers?

I know what my motivation is, and I don't think it's something you would understand.

And everything you put up

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Disgraceing the Dead?

Do you have any idea what the percentage of victims families who support this movement is? Seriously, does anyone know? I don't.

50% at least

it's above 50%, that's for sure.
Not sure of the exact number at this time though.

911 Press for Truth

911 Press for Truth is the government's Official 911 Commission's Family Steering Committee's documentary about their struggle with the Bush administration to open an investigation of the mass murder of 3000 US citizens. Why anyone would stand in the way of an investigation is simply nuts. Even if you are inclined to believe the Bush conspiracy theory about 19 angry muslims successfully attack the most dominent military defense system in the world with boxcutters, you should be interested in opening an independent investigation simply to settle the matter. Afterall, if the government has nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.

here are the 911 families who are begging for help from the American public
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

watch there documentary
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=911+press+...

watch this short video - $20 bucks - and see if you are still comfortable with the Bush conspiracy theory
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2364206678564389150&q=%2420+buck...

The investigation is over

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What investigation?

On page two of the introduction of the 911 Commission Report it states "this is not to be considered an investigation." Also, the title is The 911 Commission Report, not The 911 Commission Investigation. Hello, what investigation are you talking about? Also, if you are considering the 911 Commission Report an investigation regardless that the authors have already stated that it is not one, what sort of crappy investigation does not subpoena anybody; what about destroyed evidence from a crime scene; what about ignorning 80% of the most important questions posed to the Commission? What about missing entire skyscraper which also collapsed (wtc7) from the Commission's REPORT? What about not investigating the military exercises which simulated hijacked airplanes occuring on 911? What about the head of Pakistani intelligence being in Washington DC on 911 and only the day before had wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta (one of the hijackers), and no investigation of that tid bit. There's plenty more. But you're concerned about money in the investigation of the mass murder od 3000 US citizens. You are a sick individual. They spent nearly $100,000,000 (that is in millions) investigating Clinton's blow-job, but you feel spending money on investigating the most devastating mass murder on American soil is a waste of money. You certainly need to seek help. Unless you are working for anti-American interests who are trying to prevent an investigation.

Again, if the government has nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.

Speading this, in your

Speading this, in your terms, "crap" is not dangerous.

YOU didn't bother to look at the evidence and scientific data. YOU didn't bother to read the documentation put out by these people. You just SPEW OUT CRAP out of your ass based on an article that says "Oh and they can be debunked"

Yeah, I read somewhere that the earth was flat.

One has to wonder

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