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Details and Preview of Upcoming BBC Episode of 'The Conspiracy Files'


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Update: There is also a short teaser clip available here.

A few new details have come out on the BBC 'The Conspiracy Files' on 9/11 which is to air this Sunday, these come via a blog by the editor:

9/11 questions - bbc.co.uk/blogs

Through the internet and the media generally, allegations of complicity by the US government in the 9/11 attacks are intensifying.

We've just finished a new series called The Conspiracy Files which will start this Sunday on BBC Two at 9pm with a programme about 9/11.

We’ve talked to a number of the people who question the official version.

Dylan Avery, the 23-year-old film-maker behind the internet film Loose Change says the US government “will willingly kill its own citizens for whatever gain it seems necessary and then lie as much as they need to cover it up.”

Alex Jones, a Texan nationally syndicated radio talk show host, tells the programme “9/11 is an inside job… a false-flag terror operation.”

Jim Fetzer, former US marine and retired university professor, who helped found a coalition of academics called Scholars for 9/11 Truth repeats the Sherlock Holmes quotation “when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

..

But we found that simple requests, such as asking to see the plane wreckage of flight United 93 at Shanksville, or flight American Airlines 77 at the Pentagon, were refused after months of delay by the authorities.

Yet if we had been able to film the wreckage from flight AA77 we would have had extremely strong evidence that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon.

Trying to prove or disprove these alternative theories is not easy.

Officials are loathe to engage, thinking that any response will only fan the flames of popular conspiracy theories, and yet no response seems to be worse still.

9/11: The Conspiracy Files travels across the United States investigating the allegations and talking to witnesses wherever possible.

Be sure to check out their blog entry for the full details, and to post some comments.

You can find the preview clip here as well, however I have had no luck so far in getting it to play. Expect to see a downloadable version of this clip popup as soon as it starts working.

Thanks 911veritas for the heads up!

No whammies No whammies...

“when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

I hope there isn't mention of the improbable exotic weaponry theory.

Otherwise, this is a pretty fair-minded little blog. I like that they are actually trying to investigate what we're saying. I also like how they mentioned how unwilling the U.S. is to cooperate.

If you have nothing to hide, why do you hide everything?


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Agreed. I'm a little

Agreed. I'm a little apprehensive now, after seeing Mr Fetz raise his ugly head.

However, if this documentary is as good as the preview suggests, this will hopefully prove to be a massive boost for the movement.

The documentary follows one of the most popular - if not, the most poular - shows on UK tv -- Top Gear (8pm - 9pm GMT). A couple of weeks ago it boasted a bigger audience than Big Brother (c. 7.1 million).

Fingers crossed!

I'll get this show recorded and uploaded to google vid and i'll post a link on the almighty blogger as soon afterwards as possible.

Very cool.

Thank you.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Yes

And when pigs fly we will have a new source of cheap transportation.

Sorry to sound sarcastic, but my expectation is that this documentary will be designed to appear serios - but will focus on strawmen theories like the Pentagon and Dr. Fetzer. Just the fact that people watching this documentary might seek out Dr. Fetzer's work on Scholars is a huge liability.

Its like Bill O'Reilly said when he had Dr. Fetzer on:

"I hope people go to your dopey website."

i bet he does

Optimism........

surely you've seen the latest NIST report on the flying pig phenomenon?

Joking aside, if this documentary causes 0.1% of its audience to go beyond skepticism and turn to activism, it will have been worthwhile.

I, personally won't learn anything new from it but it will highlight the collapse of building 7 - something that the sheepish majority are still unaware of. Then they have to ask themselves "why didn't I hear about WTC7 before?".

I do agree, though, that the mention of star wars beams and hologram planes will have a negative effect - but hopefully outweighed by the inescapable evidence that Jones and Avery SHOULD be putting forward.

John, right again. This is

John, right again.
This is going to be a major hit piece.
I can't wait to watch it. Alex Jones said it's gonna be bad.

Yep. So much for being

Yep. So much for being optimistic - this BBC hit piece won't even mention Northwoods for God's sake.

Cool, I'm going to try and

Cool, I'm going to try and grab it to so we'll have a much better chance of successfully getting it up with the more people that record it.

Digg

How can we see this documentary en France ?

John A MITCHELL
mouv4x8@club-internet.fr

Bonjour ,

Have asked the BBC on their web site how can we in France see this documentary. Have not yet had a reply. Does any one on this blog have an idea how we the French can see it ?

Thanks for any reply

Yours

John

Chances are

you will be able to find it on Google Video or similar services soon after it has been aired.

I have my fingers crossed

I have my fingers crossed for this, but we all know the outcome already.

People I wish were included in this documentary:
Dr. David Ray Griffin
Bob McIlvaine
William Rodriguez

why no DRG?

Why isn't David Ray Griffin included? Anyone paying the least bit of attention knows that he is the most credible.

Fetzer is a crank, maybe a mole, who just happened to be first to establish a "scholars" group.

I actually believe Alex

I actually believe Alex Jones is the most credible. He just gets upset and angry (LIKE HE SHOULD) and people take that as him being crazy for being passionate about something in this world of zombies.
Not to take anything away from DRG. Tarpely and Bowman are certainly high on the list as well.

Alex....

Alex takes away from his credibility when he says that Global Warming is a myth, created by the NWO...

I mean come on Alex...We are all skeptical of the powers that be, but the polar ice caps ARE melting

no doubt about it, they have

no doubt about it, they have been going HARD on the "global warming myth" lately. Alex is a patriot but hes clearly no scientist. not that i am either but when 95% of the worlds scientists agree on something i find it kind of hard to disagree with them. and when most of the 5% of scientists that disagree with global warming get their funds traced back to the oil industry it doesnt look so good.

You cant blame him

You cant blame Alex for being so paranoid about EVERYTHING... When you find out that so much of what you thought was true is really a lie, its somewhat understandable that he questions EVERYTHING

Check that, why is anyone

Check that, why is anyone voting this post down? Those are FACTS right there! Wake up! How ironic is this? "Global Warming" is happening but it's not as described by the mainstream media, Tony Blair and Al Gore. IT IS LARGELY THE SUN! PLUTO HAS GLOBAL WARMING! Christ, how can people become aware of one manipulation (9/11) and yet still fall for others? Pathetic.

Get past 9/11...

Get past the FRN,

Get past the machinations of an elite always greed-grabbing after the illusion of control through manipulating the people with endless propaganda...

Get past the next ivory-tower destruction and renaissance in science...

Get past the filth and toxic swamp-making by pollution and waste in all forms...

Then get our heads around the implications of a universe simply swimming through a tireless flood of electrical phenomenon and endless symbiotic energy for all. For example: http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/arch/041025paradigm.htm

(Please my fellow truthers, as we here are focused upon 911 and it's immediate tangents for the most part, let's not forget how others are/have already moved on into a new world just waiting for us to complete our task of seeing justice done and returning Truth back upon a pedestal of proper respect. Should we succeed in bringing about a paradigm shift in politics, the terms of war, and the overriding socioeconomics of this part of humanities interactions.... be prepared for the flood of revolutionary information currently being held back by the mud of our paralyzing status quo. Thus, the extraordinary potential of humanity realized afterwards, may serve as our prize for success in surviving our current intellectual poverty.)

Show "can't wait to see it....." by nothwind

There were plane parts

There were plane parts recovered at all 3 crash locations. Whether you think there were enough, or whether they were of the right type, etc. is one thing, but the misnomer that there were no plane parts at all is incorrect and is an easily debunkable myth that we do not need to be spreading.

Show "Sorry...." by nothwind

Don't plane parts

have serial and part numbers?

Why hasn't a single piece of any of the four planes ever been positively identified, has coming from the type of planes they supposedly came from?

It's not that hard to id parts. Mechanics in every industry do it every day.

And why would "they" want to positively identify plane parts...

...when it's so much more effective at keeping us divided to withhold / fudge information on the flights and watch us argue over whether or not there were planes and what kind of planes, et cetera...

The flaw in this plan is that by doing so, "they" also manage to clue in to anyone who's paying attention with less than half a brain that "they" are up to something... Then again maybe "they" want us to think/know they're up to "something" and be unsure and afraid of exactly what - and therefore easier to manipulate?

How tangled is this web, anyways?

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9/11 video censored at Google video?

Slightly off topic but very relevant...

This email just came from news@brasschecktv.com and refers the the video posted at this site via google video

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/80.html

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On 2/10/07 I posted "The 9/11 Solution",
and since then our logs show that 19,802
have visited the page and seen the video.

Unfortunately, for reasons not clear, Google Videoremoved the video from their web site last night.

This morning I attempted to upload the video to
YouTube.

It was automatically removed:

"...due to terms of use violation."

I have read the Terms & Conditions of both Google
Video and YouTube and there is nothing in this video
that violates their written terms.

I am the video maker and am sole copyright
owner of the material.

The content is not illegal, an invasion of anyone's
privacy, obscene, an incitement of hate or violence,
or a portrayal of graphic violence.

In short, they had no cause to remove it.

If anyone has specific, detailed, actionable
information on how I can appeal to these
people to stop censoring this video, please
let me know.

Please: No idle speculations, hand wringing
or even expressions of sympathy.

But if you have SPECIFIC experience with Google
and/or YouTube on this kind of a problem and
can point me to exactly who I should contact and
how I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

What the page looks like now:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/80.html

- Brasscheck

P.S. If you were one of the lucky few who downloaded
the video before it was pulled, please feel free to
distribute it in anyway you want. As the copyright
owner, I authorize you to do this.

If you can point me to the link were you have uploaded
it, all the better.

P.P.S. This has happened at an inopportune time
for me personally. I will not be able to respond
personally to any e-mails for the next five or
six days.

Thanks for all your support.

Brasscheck TV
2380 California St.
San Francisco, CA 94115

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All aspects of the truth are consistent

The video was probably

The video was probably removed because it had footage from NBC or ABC. Both of them have entered into agreements with youtube/google to keep their copyrighted footage from being spread online. This is the same reason why some clips of WTC7 were removed from youtube about 2 months ago.

The creator of that video can't claim copyright (as he does in this email) because he does not own the copyright for the footage he used from other news agencies.

Just another reason why we shouldn't depend on these video sites solely, because they could just scrap it all at once.

Lawyers and the destruction of freedom

These copyright laws are just another attempt to stop the spread of information..... way to go LAWYERS!
___________________
Ignorance is NOT Bliss

Copyright on non commercial video?

nothanks:

I'm no lawyer, but do you need ownership of a video clip if that clip is put into a video for non commercial use?

Might be worth them having...

an opening screen citing the "FAIR USE" policy and law.

See the beginning of Loose Change, 9/11 Mysteries etc for specifics. Worked for them... maybe upload as a different user also.

Also include that the persons on the footage "do not necessarily endorse the content of this video".

It might help to mention "non commercial" and that it's investigative journalism etc...

Worth a try, best wishes

I managed to see it last night

It looked like the link from the Brasscheck site to Google Video wasn't working but i found it doing a search...

yup it is in fact still on Google Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3074561005024763960&q=9%2F11+so...

However, they do have a curious habit of moving those things to new URLS...

Anyway, great video!! I can't believe that guy on FOX news he sounded so f***ing full of it.

now that google video and youtube are finally integrating

the crackdown will begin...

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who's voice in msnbc footage?

OK. I get Mr. Infomercial and I know who Jerome Hauer is but, who's voice is that in the thrid segment from msnbc?

--
The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

well...

judging from my experience with Guy Smith, this will be a hit piece.

almost every answer I gave him, he responded with "but you're not an expert", "but the commission...", "but NIST"...

That sounds about right...

For someone that doesn't have an open mind.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Craig Bartmer was visiting

Craig Bartmer was visiting during the taping. After about an hour, when Guy was leaving, Craig cornered them both and told them, more or less, "You know, this isn't just conspiracy theory, and as a person who was there, I think what you're saying is kinda offensive."

Craig tried reasoning with him about Building 7 and the EPA. Guy didn't want a thing to do with it.

So get some popcorn. This should be interesting.

Mathias Bröckers

the author of

http://www.broeckers.com/CCS911.htm

was asked, too, as the BBC docu seems to be co-producted with german ZDF, but he declined to comment.

He is still suffering from the bad experience he made in 2003, as he was bunched together with antisemites for doing 911 truth.

http://www.zweitausendeins.de/writersblog/broeckers/
entry 2007-01-31

But as I know of the possible misuse once again, I set the facts straight beforehand and warned all newsplayers involved in 911 "conspiracy theory" here in Germany so far
not to do this sorta shit again because of our critical mass long time passed.

Here is my email (in german language):

(please, other german readers, write similar mails to ZDF and other news!)

Hallo HeuteJournal!

Von Mathias Bröckers habe ich erfahren, dass Sie zusammen mit der BBC eine Doku zum Thema "Verschwörungstheorien zum 11.9." gedreht
haben. Die BBC will diese am kommenden Sonntag ausstrahlen. Ihr Sendetermin steht anscheinend noch nicht fest.

Auch in Erinnung an Ihre letzte Berichterstattung vom 8.9.2001
"9/11: Verschwörungstheorien halten an"
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/inhalt/31/0,4070,3976223-5,00.html

s.a.:
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/26/0,1872,3955130,00.html

(Schade eigentlich, hatten sie nicht einen Tag vorher einen "relativ" neutralen Beitrag zu Loose Change gebracht?) möchte ich
folgendes anmerken:

Wenn sie darin wieder "Experten" zitieren, so wie Prof. Armin Pfahl-Traughber, dann bitte nur unter der Voraussetzung, genau zu
erklären, was diese Experten machen und von wem diese bezahlt werden. Herr Pfahl-Traughber ist Mitarbeiter des Verfassungsschutzes,
und nicht etwa nur wie von Ihnen vorgestellt "Politikwissenschaftler", fürwahr ein Geniestreich einen Mitarbeiter des
Verfassungsschutzes nach der Möglichkeit von Staatsterror zu befragen.

Die vorgetragenden "Thesen" sind der blanke Hohn, von Projektion kaum mehr zu überbieten.

"Komplexe, unerklärliche Ereignisse fördern einfache Erklärungen".
Kommt mir so vor wie eine Vorgabe aus dem Weißen Haus, weil sie immer wieder benutzt wird, um alle Zweifler zu diskreditieren. Dabei
ist es doch die Schwarz-Weiß - Gut-Böse- Wer nicht für uns ist - ist gegen uns und Terrorist -Rethorik, die eher an schlichte
Gemüter appelliert. Mein Leben ist mit den sog. "Verschwörungstheorien" bestimmt nicht einfacher geworden, und bis heute weiß ich
auch nicht die Antwort auf alle Fragen, wie man diese komplizierte Geheimdienstoperation nun genau durchgeführt hat- punktum: eine
einfache Erklärung bietet nur die offizielle, unbewiesene Version. Wie kompliziert die OP tatsächlich war, kann man allein an den am
11.9. stattfindenen "Wargames" ablesen und der Tatsache, dass wir auch bis heute nicht wissen, was und wie da die Ziele getroffen
hat. Vgl.
http://www.broeckers.com/NEADS_to_know.pdf

"Ein schönes Feindbild" ist wohl nicht die USA, sondern Osama Bin Laden, für dessen Beteiligung am 11.9. es bis heute keine
gerichtsfesten Beweise gibt, außer einem windigen Dossier von Phony Tony, welches aber nicht für die Benutzung vor Gericht gedacht
war,
der aber schon beim 2. Anschlag auf den Südturm als Täter feststand, wie uns Fox mitteilte, spätestens jedoch um 14.40 Uhr des
gleichen Tages, als Rumsfeld seinen Mitarbeiter diktierte: "Not only U.B.L., but also S.H." , der die Tat in der pakistanischen
Ummat bestritten hat, der auch kein politisches Statement abgegeben hat, was Sinn und Zweck des Terrors sein könnte, so wie es beim
politischen, authentischen Terror bis dahin üblich war, und desses angebliches Pentagon-Geständnis-Video voller Ungereimtheiten ist.
Dieser Bin Laden ist zu dick, das Video schlecht, die Umstände des Fundes merkwürdig, die Übersetzung mangelhaft etc.
Und was war überhaupt mit Tim Osmans Rekrutierung in Jeddah, ausgerechnet dort, wo laut Springmann die Visas für alle möglichen
Terroristen ausgestellt worden sind, die unter dem Schutz der USA standen?

Ich muss Sie also warnen, falls noch mal so ein Schmierenversuch kommt, gar wie in 2003, um die offizielle Version festzutrampeln,
wird das ernsthafte Konsequenzen für Ihre Reputation haben, da die halbe Welt mittlerweile weiß, dass es sich auch beim 11.9.2001 um
einen Inside Job gehandelt hat. Siehe meine Dokumentation dazu hier:

http://dirk-gerhardt.homepage.t-online.de/Bilder/This%20line%20is%20anno...

Because I can't get enough crappy Babelfish translation

-- really, I love to see machine translation in action:

Hello HeuteJournal! From Mathias Broeckers I experienced that her together with the BBC a Doku about "conspiracy theories to the 11.9." turned. The BBC wants to radiate these on coming Sunday. Their transmission date is not certain apparent. Also in Erinnung to your last reporting of 8.9.2001 the "9/11: Conspiracy theories hold by "http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/inhalt/31/0,4070,3976223-5,00.html S.A.: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/26/0,1872,3955130,00.html (unfortunate actually, they had brought before not one day to one "relative to" neutral contribution Loose CHANGE?) I would like to mark the following: If they quote therein again "experts", as Professor Armin stake Traughber, then asks only under the condition to explain exactly what these experts make and are paid of whom these. Mr. stake Pfahl-Traughber is coworkers of the protection of the constitution, and not only presented as of you "politics scientists" to ask for true a sneezing realm a coworker of the protection of the constitution after the possibility from state terror to. The before-GET-RISING up "theses" are the bright Hohn to over-bid from projection hardly more. "complexes, unexplainable events promote simple explanations". Comes me in such a way before like a default from the white house, because it is used again and again, in order to discredit all Zweifler. It is nevertheless the black-and-white - property bad who for us is not - is against us and terrorist Rethorik, which appeals rather to simple mind. My life is with sucked. "conspiracy theories" certainly not more simply become, and to today white I also not the answer to all questions, like one this complicated secret service operation now exactly accomplished having punktum: a simple explanation offers only the official, unproven version. How it complicates the OI was actual one can stattfindenen alone to from the 11.9th "Wargames" read off and the fact that we do not know also until today, what and how hit the targets there. See http://www.broeckers.com/NEADS_to_know.pdf "a beautiful enemy picture" is not probably the USA, but Osama is shop, for its participation on 11.9. there to today no court-firm proofs are however already, except a windy dossier of Phony Tony, which was however not for the use before court meant, with 2. Notice on the south tower as authors was certain, like us Fox communicated, at the latest however at 14.40 o'clock of the same daily, when Rumsfeld dictated its coworker: "emergency only U.B.L., but thus S.H." , which denied the act in the Ummat the of Pakistan, which delivered also no political statement, which sense and purpose of the terror could be, as it with the political, authentic terror up to then was usual, and desses alleged Pentagon confession video of full inconsistencies is. This is shop is too thickly, the video badly, the circumstances of the find strangely, the translation unsatisfactorily etc.. And which was at all with Tim Osmans recruiting in Jeddah, just, where according to jumping man the Visas for all possible terrorists was issued, which stood under the protection of the USA? I must warn you thus, if still times such a lubricant attempt comes, as in 2003, around the official version festzutrampeln, that serious consequences for your Reputation will have, since the half world knows meanwhile that it concerned also with 11.9.2001 a Inside the job. See my documentation here in addition:

BIG LOL

but I hope you can get my points...

I think so...

and I meant to thank you, as well. It means a lot to me and, I'm sure, to other Americans, that people outside the US take an interest in 9/11. (Given that we're hell-bent on becoming THE world-dominating imperialist force of the 21st century and dictating policy to everyone else, it makes sense that you would be interested -- nonetheless, thank you for your efforts.)

I would like to know what the short sentence it translated as "My life is sucked." really means. Is it idiomatic? I'm thinking of using the English version as my tagline (jk).

My life is sucked

bad, bad translator, to use such a expression.

But it was basically what I've said.

"My life is certainly not easier with this knowledge".

You do not have to thank me, it's my patriotic duty, as the principle of this shit origins from all over the world, Germany included. I want a world not dominated by warmongers, fearsellers, fascist, drug trafficers and bold liars, let alone for the pursuit of happiness of my 1 and 1/2 year old daughter...

lol I can't help but think of Yoda..

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Names & terms that the BBC won't mention

I'm willing to lay down 1:10 odds for each of the following NOT being mentioned by the BBC -- but if you want to bet, you must pick 10:

Anthrax to Congress
Wargames of 9/11
"Bush Knew," Aug. 6 memo, etc.
Pentagon MASCAL exercise
NORAD timeline "revisions"
Destruction of evidence, of any kind
WH opposition to 9/11 commission until Dec. 2002
Pre-9/11 foreign "warnings" of impending attack
Able Danger
Nafeez Ahmed, Ruppert, Chossudovsky or Tarpley (any)
Complete 9/11 Timeline/Paul Thompson
Jim Hoffman
Gladio or the Russian apartment bombings of 1999
Family Steering Committee or anything about skeptics among relatives
Hani Hanjour's skills as a pilot
"9/11 Press for Truth"
Kissinger
Zelikow
Max Cleland
Saeed Sheikh
Mahmud Ahmed
Ali Mohamed
Gen. Myers - Gen. Winfield - Adm. Mies
Norman Mineta
Sibel Edmonds
Debris scattered along trail of miles near Shanksville
Shanksville seismic spike at 10:06, not
Bush school visit ran from 8:50 to 9:34 on live TV.
Planning for Afghanistan war in advance of 9/11
Commission admitting hijackers used forged documents
Atta in US before official timeline
Coleen Rowley
John O'Neil
SEC offices at WTC 7
any suspicious financial dealings indicating foreknowledge other than put options on UA and AA
"2.3 trillion dollars"

I give 50-50 on the following:
"No Plane Crash" at WTC
"4000 Jews"
"19 Arabs too stupid to do it"
Out of date BBC reports of "living hijackers"
"Hundreds/thousands of conspirators necessary"
"Why not use Iraqis?"
"Bush regime incompetent"
"Engineering an attack on their own financial center?!"
Conspiracy theory as therapy for people who need to make sense of a chaotic world
Diana
JFK
UFOs
Pearl Harbor
"New World Order," "Illuminati" or the Federal Reserve

On the "plus side" I give 50-50 for the following:
Opinion polls indicate widespread skepticism
"Mujahedeen did get US support in 1980s"
Toxic air
Iraq war lies

---
"Truth is not measured in mass appeal."
summeroftruth.org

Nice list...

I'm betting they focus on:

A missile hitting the Pentagon
Controlled Demolition
Flight 93 was shot down (without mention of the debris field)

And nothing else.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

you forgot space beams

can we agree that if Dr. Fetzer injects Space Beams into this documentary he is intentionally undermining our efforts? Can we agree on that much?

I agree...

He's doing it now without even having seen the BBC documentary.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

how true

"There are none so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free" (Goethe)..... a paraphrase from V: Cast aside the illusions. Only when you are finally hopeless can you truly be free.

Ah...

I was wrong (after watching the clip)... they do cover the Flight 93 debris field apparently. It seems I was dead on about the "field of vision" though.

It looks like they are going to challenge the "no jews died on 9/11" conspiracy theory that was debunked years ago.

Based on the comments from Bob Graham, it also appears they are going to focus on what they think are the "legitimate" reasons to doubt 9/11.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

'Legitimate' reasons to doubt 9/11

'Based on the comments from Bob Graham, it also appears they are going to focus on what they think are the "legitimate" reasons to doubt 9/11.'

In other words, a limtied hangout (sorry, am I going to get a pie in the face for that?). Under no circumstances will viewers be encouraged to question the need for the Global War On Terror and the trashing of civil liberties and due process.

i think you missed one

energy weapons is a mortal lock, what with Uncle Fetzer being featured. Just that makes this a very missable documentary.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6360000/newsi...

That link just worked for me... They basically have Alex Jones, Korey Rowe (or Dylan, not sure if I know which is which), and ncle Fetzer making the case. In other words, NOT David Griffin, Steven Jones, or Kevin Ryan. There are a ton of XFiles type graphics and they showed a victim's sister asking "if it was a conspiracy then why did my brother go to work?" or something like that.

They have more CGI proof of a plane sneaking into the Pentagon, since it can be animated on a computer it must be true.

You wanna know what i think? Naw, I don't think you do... Anyway, I will wait to see it, but for now I'm classifying this as an attempt to discredit by putting less than the best face forward for the case for truth.

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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

thanks for that link.. i

thanks for that link.. i ripped that clip.. available now above..

thanks!

victim's sister

> and they showed a victim's sister asking "if it was a > conspiracy then why did my brother go to work?"

I watched the preview. It's unclear what the victim's sister means exactly. I have to wonder if she's saying, "my brother was Jewish, and he went to work", i.e. rebutting "the Jews did it" foregone conclusion theory. No thanks to all the despicable fake and real Nazi’s here for that one. Focusing on foregone conclusion theories, especially that particular one, is the easiest way to discredit any alternative 9/11 viewpoint.

I too suspect that this will be an attempt to discredit by putting less than the best face forward.

thats exactly what i got

thats exactly what i got from it. Fetzer in the preview along with the indication that the "jews didnt show up for work" crap will be talked about. hit piece.

Hey...

Keep in mind we don't make these TV specials. We just appear in them.

If someone from the BBC calls us to do an interview, it doesn't do us much good to say "Go interview [blank] instead of us, we have no interest" That will look worse.

Also keep in mind, we're human. Thanks.

why not?

Enigs, whoever you are, why not say, "I'd be happy to talk to you, but you guys really should interview David Ray Griffin."

Is "why not" - too uncomfortable a question?

If the question is too embarassing to answer, just vote it down? That's not cool. If you don't agree with the idea, how about answer the question?

BBC advert for 9/11 "Conspiracy Files"

This ad is in heavy rotation, it's on all the time pretty much. Hopefully I'll be able to grab the program as easy as I was able to grab this.

"This video is no longer available"

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

Yea, that’s funny because

Yea, that’s funny because it was working a second ago. I'll try and get it up on google and a few others....

this looks a bit different

this looks a bit different from the one i just ripped and posted.. plz let me know via email if i can be of service!

The preview clip

dz, go here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/6213816.stm
Look on the right, under "9/11." If you click on "Preview programme" it should play, though it's pretty low-res.
Looks like they're giving it a bit of the X-Files treatment.

Ok here it is on google

Edit: Doesn’t looked like that google embed is working, the Youtube one's fine now though.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2275387220966231326

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/Chewbacca2000/video/2823122

Press for truth

Hey guys, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but maybe you can help me... Im trying to find "911 press for truth" with spanish subtitles or something to that effect... i want as many people as possible to watch it here in my hometown in mexico but most of my friends and family dont speak english... so any help would be great!

my email cualcrees@hotmail.com

If you can't find PFT in Spanish

I have a transcription .txt file all ready to go for translation and subtitling. I didn't do this transcription, but I checked and edited it.

cool!

That be great; could you email it to me? Thanks!

The Empire Strikes Back

Judging by the clip, and the apparently prominent inclusion of James Fetzer, this title seems appropriate.

That or, "Damage Control."

For what it's worth here's

For what it's worth here's what I wrote about their last episode on Princess Diana;

I just got through watching the “Conspiracy Files” on BBC 2 about the death of Princes Diana, and frankly it was headache inducing. I don’t know enough about her death and the issues surrounding it, so I don’t really know what the hell happened to her accident or otherwise. Although I would say after becoming aware of just how wrong things are with 9/11, an assassination like that wouldn’t be beyond possibility.

This program starts off with fast flashing abrasive imagery with lots of green and black colouring, and with close-ups of single eyes etc. It’s very nauseating I found, and I’m sure most people watching didn’t appreciate it either. This program seemed to have a very strong bias throughout; the narrator was a female voice who readout a narrative that was full of words like “conspiracists” and “conspiracy theorists” “conspiracy theories”. It labelled and smeared everyone who was sceptical by insinuating that their “claims” aren’t “credible”, for the whole duration of the program. And steered the tone firmly in the direction of favouring the official version of events. It used so many strawman arguments that I was even able to guess what was coming up. For example after a series of points debunking certain aspects brought up by “conspiracists”, the next point was “Diana’s ambulance past a number of closer hospitals, why was this conspiracists ask?”, the answer: “the hospital she was being sent to had vital specialist facilities”.

They seemed to pick “theories” that could be answered with very commonsense answers, which appeal to people’s logic and in turn give the impression that the whole thing is just nonsense. At one point the narrator even says something like “its all based on blind faith”. It ends with placing a guilt trip on those questioning her death by bringing up the Princes (William and Harry), and saying how those closest to Diana don’t want to have her legacy tarnished with allegations like this. And that may be a fair point, but the whole program was geared towards suppressing and playing down scepticism. And if you think about what the rest of the “series” is going to be like after that, it’s almost guarantied that they’re going to follow an exact same blueprint. This didn’t seem like an honest evaluation of the issue, it seemed much more like something trying its absolute hardest to convince the public and reinforce the official narrative.

Contact the BBC requesting they air the Truth Version

(taken from nineeleven.co.uk/forums)

See also:
Will this Sunday's BBC documentary whitewash 9/11?
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7030

Thanks to a dedicated poster and campaigner on this forum (whose name is associated with the initials SG), I put this together and sent it round my e-mail list. I believe Ian Crane is also posting something, so you might like to wait for that as well.

Review - and decide on your action:

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We have discovered from a source inside the BBC that there are 2 versions or "edits" of the upcoming conspiracies documentary - one of which is a "whitewash" version. Our source tells us the guy pushing for the Whitewash Version to be broadcast is GARTH ANCIER:

http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2013028,00.html
He was in the Guardian YESTERDAY. Coincidence?
Action:

e-mail the addresses below, and any others you may be aware with a message like the one below. Let them know we know the gist of the game. We know from our source there are people in the BBC pushing for the truth to come out - so let's hear it for them. Well, what are you waiting for?

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HelenBoaden.Complaints@bbc.co.uk
vine@bbc.co.uk
1_6_10feedback@bbc.co.uk
info@bbc.co.uk
guy.smith@bbc.co.uk
mike.rudin@bbc.co.uk

and any other BBC ones you can think of! (or re-work the message below to send to other organisations)

You can also call Television Centre on 0208 743 8000 to find out more and lobby those who decide these things.

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Dear Sir/Madam,

We have discovered from a source within the BBC that there are 2 versions of the upcoming "Conspiracies" documentary about 9/11. We understand that there are people in the BBC who want the truth to come out and other ones that don't. We understand that the main person backing the "whitewash" version is Mr Garth Ancier.

http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2013028,00.html

Of course, as you will realise, this calls into question the standards of professionalism, journalism, honesty and integrity which seem to be at work in the BBC. We KNOW 9/11 was an inside job, and however many times David Icke or "No Planes" is mentioned in relation to it, it will not detract from the smoking guns which more and more people have now seen and understand.

We therefore strongly advise that the "honest" version is broadcast on Sunday, because if it is not, the BBC's reputation as a news broadcasting entity will be forever tarnished or destroyed. Clearly, we must also call into question the motives of an executive who can (or is trying to) influence what is to be broadcast, and this matter will need serious review also.

As you may know, William Rodriguez, Decorated hero and survivor of the World Trade Centre Disaster, is speaking around the UK. His testimony blows apart the official story of 9/11 and this will likely have been heard and read by 10s or 100s of thousands of people by the end of this month.

So, we know what the game is, and we are now "calling your bluff". We are watching you and waiting for your response.

Yours Sincerely,
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Andrew

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