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Top Bin Laden Expert: Confession Fake

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Top U.S. Bin Laden Expert: Confession Video “Bogus”
by Kevin Barrett, http://mujca.com
2/17/06

Was Osama Bin Laden responsible for 9/11?

The Bush Administration says yes, citing a grainy, badly-edited videotape that surfaced in December, 2001. In that tape, a fat guy who vaguely resembles Bin Laden chortles about the success of the 9/11 attacks. (In earlier interviews, Bin Laden had denied responsibility for 9/11, once even deploring the loss of civilian life in the attacks and calling them un-Islamic.)

Is the famous “confession video” genuine? Despite Bush’s insistence that the tape is authentic, America’s top academic Bin Laden expert has finally gone on the record, joining numerous other experts.

“It’s bogus,” says Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program.

Lawrence, author of Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama Bin Laden, offered his historic debunking of the administration’s lie in an interview with Kevin Barrett (“Dynamic Duo,” gcnlive.com, 2/16/2007, first hour). The interview marked Lawrence’s first major public statement since he made headlines last year by suggesting that recent Osama tapes are hoaxes and that the real Osama Bin Laden may be dead.

Why has the Bush Administration been lying for more than five years by telling us that this preposterously bad hoax is a genuine “confession video”? Lawrence, citing informants in the US intelligence apparatus’s Bin Laden units, said that everyone knows the tape is fake, adding that the hoax has been kept alive because it is politically useful to those who wish to deflect attention from
“conspiracy theories” about 9/11.

If Professor Lawrence is right—and anyone with eyes can see that he is, simply by comparing the overweight impostor in the Fatty Bin Laden bogus confession video to other pictures of Osama Bin Laden—the Bush Administration, by repeatedly citing the tape as authentic, is clearly guilty of obstruction of justice at best, high treason and conspiracy to mass murder at worst. Since the FBI now tells us that Osama Bin Laden is “not wanted for 9/11” because there is “no hard evidence” connecting him to the 9/11 attacks, and since US intelligence personnel all know the “confession tape” is a Bush Administration hoax, it should not be difficult to nail the perpetrators of this outrageous cover-up of the crime of the century.

It is time for Congress or an appropriate judicial authority to mount an investigation of the Fatty Bin Laden bogus confession video.

Where did this tape come from? Who was responsible for the
administration’s claim that it is authentic, despite widespread knowledge in relevant intelligence agencies that it is bogus? If Bruce Lawrence is correct in asserting that US intelligence personnel know the tape is fake, we need to put them, along with Bush and Cheney, under oath and find out why our government has been lying so outrageously for more than five years in order to obstruct justice by shielding the real perpetrators of 9/11.

Please email your congressional representatives with the subject header “investigate bogus Bin Laden ‘confession video’ NOW!” and include a copy of this article in the body of the message.

You can listen to the interview if you buy a subscription to GCN Radio, or the interview might be linked on the sample page in a couple of months.

It is also worth noting that Professor Lawrence said the same thing to Professor Steven Jones early last summer.

Are the Dynamic Duo archives

Are the Dynamic Duo archives available to GCN paying members only? I'd love to hear this audio,

Believing in "The Boogeyman"

Definition of a "conspiracy theory":

Nineteen amateur pilots from Saudi Arabia, who could barely fly single-engine Cessnas, commandeer four commercial jumbo-jets with box-cutters and fly them into US targets with pin-point accuracy while the entire US military stands-down for over an hour -- lead by a cave-dwelling Muslim on kidney dialysis.

Osama bin Laden is not now, nor has he ever been, considered a suspect in the attacks on 9/11 by the FBI. The "Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda, terrorist" crap is insulting to our collective intelligence. He's probably been dead for a few years now.

Ever hear of the word disinformationalist? That's what the damn news media is doing every time they continue to spread this garbage: spreading disinformation.

dis·in·for·ma·tion (dĭs-ĭn'fər-mā'shən)
n.
1. Deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government or especially by an intelligence agency in order to influence public opinion or the government in another nation: "He would be the unconscious channel for a piece of disinformation aimed at another country's intelligence service" (Ken Follett).
2. Dissemination of such misleading information.

 

Just found this

Is bin Laden a terrorist mastermind --
or a fall guy?

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/27news.html

stunning...

Where's Loren today? She's got that right even well before 911...

wow, thank you for that link

wow, thank you for that link man. yeah, i would love to hear from that Loren woman today.

Found by accident

but this thread I made deliberately ;-)

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4246

I can't imagine how anyone can go through it and don't doubt the official version afterwards...

Good work Kevin

If someone can upload this would love to hear this!

Also remember there is no paper trail...

This reminds me of this excellent article by the Muckraker in which an FOIA was filed for all documents relating to discovery, chain of custody, and authentication of this Bin Laden tape. Basically the response was no records exist:

http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id301.html

This is another nail in the coffin, keep it up!

Next up: Water found to be wet!

And the exciting conclusion of our three part series, "The Sun is hot."

DIGG!

I successfully submitted this story to digg. Go on Digg, do a search about Bin Laden, and you should find it.

Read the last genius on this Earth: http://www.notbored.org/debord.html

Link

It helps if you provide a link. Only 7 diggs so far...

http://digg.com/political_opinion/Top_U_S_Bin_Laden_Expert_9_11_Confessi...

FBI had already acknowledged that they don't have evidence that bin Laden was involved. Now the only piece of evidence of his involvement has now been thoroughly discredited.

What shall we do with this information? An email campaign to the few remaining honest journalists and media persons? What about a legal process?

See:

See:

http://911lies.org/fake_bin_laden.html

And this photograph:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a321/bogumilo/5420-20fake_osama.jpg

Who shows, on the left, the Ben laden video of the consents presented by the American government in December 2001, on the right, Bin Laden truth.

Bin Laden appearing in the video presented by the American government has the nose shorter in the direction height and broader than Bin Laden truth. It cannot be Bin Laden truth, impossible.

Have to say, many of us have

Have to say, many of us have our own reasons not to like "Ricky". What are yours--besides the profit angle?

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

All Fake

I'm guessing that if they are not all fake then they are staged and these guys are in our pocket...... for all I know the video with all the hijackers allegidly meeting and being on video together was filmed after 9/11....

for all we know these guys are living happy lives in the back country of Turkey with a matress full of cash
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Ignorance is NOT Bliss

Again I ask...

All of this is phony?
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nobody said that. but do you

nobody said that. but do you think the Bin Laden tape ISNT phony?

He's worn rings and watches in other videos, if you don't pause

it on the notorious "fatty" shot there are instances where it looks similar to his other photos.

Frankly I don't care either way if its fake or not, and it isn't necessary to even bring up, in my opinion.

What I will bring up is the fact that nothing ever conclusively blaming him has ever been produced, documented, etc.... and the FBI does not list him as wanted for 9/11.

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The big thing...

About the Bin Laden confession video is that it was never authenticated.

They do it for everything else...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10924015/
http://wjz.com/topstories/local_story_019203228.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-01-19-bin-laden-audio_x.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1522491
http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/6242237/detail.html?rss=man&psp=natio...

Colin Powell promised a "White Paper" that would show the evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11. That never came. Could the fact that this video wasn't authenticated be the reason why that lone reporter asked the President about it's authenticity?

Ed Haas initially reported on that.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

"The big thing... About the

"The big thing...
About the Bin Laden confession video is that it was never authenticated."

Bingo Jon, THAT is quite a conspiracy theory.

so you do think its him

so you do think its him then? i agree that the ring thing is really not a big deal, i dont buy that Bin Laden is devout anyway:) and i understand not wanting to bring it up(though i personally do because it actually does work for some people believe it or not), but you seriously think this thing is real? after the german voice expert, this guy and the few other brave people that have come forward to cast serious doubts on it? im sorry, i just dont think its him. yes, he looks similar, that was the point, but in my humble opinion(and the opinions of people much smarter than myself) that just isnt Bin Laden. after his denial in the Pakistani press it was VITAL for "Bin Laden" to be on tape taking responsibility. thats what this tape is i believe. (ask our government how they got this tape in the first place. now THATS a conspiracy theory)

doesn't matter what i think...

I'm not an expert on bin laden. I could speculate, but what good does that do?

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speculation?

oh, its only caused maybe thousands, possibly millions of people to question 9/11. nice try, but hard facts sway many people, speculation sways the rest.

agreed, but I'm past that.

but whatever works for you, bro. Keep reaching out.

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Speculation that is later

Speculation that is later proven false turns people away from the more solid evidence of complicity.
I'm a Pepper. Wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?

By that argument we should

By that argument we should never wonder about anything we can't prove--ever.

That puts Galileo in a bit of a bind, and Copernicus. Let's see, Aristotle, oh and that flaming ponce Da Vinci--no credability whatsoever. Mind, these people are considered brilliant and were mostly right, BUT NOT ABOUT EVERYTHING.

My point is that you have to speculate to make any headway in science--or life--always with the risk you might be wrong. But what separates science from idle speculation is a) following a method and b) allowing for the POSSIBILITY you may be wrong.

Remember, at one point what we consider the solid evidence was considered speculation--see Galileo, Copernicus, etc.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Ähem, I do. n/t

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"America’s top academic

"America’s top academic Bin Laden expert has finally gone on the record, joining numerous other experts."

does anybody know how true this statement is? is he really that important in the study of "Bin Laden" in this country? if so, this is bigger than i thought. i would also like to hear his thoughts on other 9/11 issues if thats the case.

You mean this is bogus?

In a November 2001 tape, bin Laden said, “We calculated in advance the number of casualties … who would be killed …. I was the most optimistic of them all. … Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only.” "they" think we are stupid. We must be the change we wish to see in the world. M Gandhi

Regarding the 'fake' fat bin

Regarding the 'fake' fat bin Laden video linked here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/2618 here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/3159 and here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/6317

I have just read your article:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osamatape.html and this one: http://www.911myths.com/html/fake_video.html

You might find this interesting: http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id372.html ('Taking the fat out of the fat bin Laden confession video' by Ed Haas)

Even Islamists argue that it is real: http://revolution.thabaat.net/?p=791

But I write the below to show that this tape is still important in the media/government misinformation reporting:

We may have been duped on the "Fatty Bin Laden" front. HOWEVER, The problem is that knowing the video is REALLY Bin Laden doesn't "hurt" anything for us. Once you dig into it, you actually see how audio was manipulated and frames were missing or deleted.

Many experts have come to that conclusion. THAT is why they don't want attention on it. They don't want questions into... 1) what sting operation was going on and why does the camera pan in third person?
1a) Sting operation: so they knew where he was but chose to let him go and invade anyway.
2) If it was a sting or information gathering session, where did Osama go, and what was the nature of the operation.
3) What was REALLY discussed on the film, and who was responsible for the false interpretation.
4)Why the vague description and cutaways when discussing relevant parts.
5) And my personal observed anomaly....who or what is "MOTHER".
6) The taping was a sting operation that involved U.S. and Saudi and/or Pakistani intelligence – which means that the United States had Osama bin Laden in its sights prior to the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan but passed on capturing or killing him in favor of invading. This is paramount! If bin Laden would have been captured or killed prior to the invasion of Afghanistan there would have no justification remaining to invade Afghanistan. If the independent media can further substantiate the actual taping date and that the taping was indeed part of a sting operation – what we will have on our hands is a provably case of high treason against the Bush Administration that will not be easily dismissed.
We gotta stop hanging this one out there, Mike Rivero and many others were wrong on this, but it doesn't change anything. It's proven misinfo and the new facts should be focused on.
It may be real, and Osama may be real in it. However, this still remains a problem regarding it - Osama is real but audio is wrong, video is chopped, etc.

Regarding the controversial above tape, on December 20, 2001, German TV channel “Das Erste” broadcast its analysis of the White House’s translation of the videotape. On the program “Monitor”, two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House’s translation to be not only inaccurate, but also manipulative saying “At the most important places where it is held to prove the guilt of bin Laden, it is not identical with the Arabic” and that the words used that indicate foreknowledge can not be heard at all in the original Arabic.

Prof. Gernot Rotter, professor of Islamic and Arabic Studies at the Asia-Africa Institute at the University of Hamburg said “The American translators who listened to the tapes and transcribed them apparently wrote a lot of things in that they wanted to hear but that cannot be heard on the tape no matter how many times you listen to it.”: http://web.archive.org/web/20021218105636/www.wdr.de/tv/monitor/beitraeg...

Researchers in Switzerland have questioned the authenticity of the recent audio recording attributed to Osama Bin Laden: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2526309.stm

Arabist Dr. Abdel El M. Husseini stated: “This translation is very problematic. At the most important places where it is held to prove the guilt of bin Laden, it is not identical with the Arabic.”

Even if we were wrong on this one, there is STILL overwhelming evidence that this tape has been misused (as shown in bits by the media and government) based on the above, even if it is genuine - but the new evidence is when it is watched in full.

"Truth Does Not Fear Investigation No Matter Who It Offends"

http://www.geocities.com/louisdkrauss/911.html

And...who are the other guys in the fake Bin Laden Video

Even IF one questions whether it is really Osama Bin Laden in the video, one would expect Khalil Sheikh Mohammed or some recognizable terrorist to be in the video too. Who are the other guys in the video?

I'm Bin Laden.

Take one rap:

I'm Slim Shady, yes I'm the real Shady.
All those other Slim Shadies are just imitators.

Transpose it to an OBL/ 9/11 truth context and you get:

I'm Bin Laden, yes I'm the real Laden.
All those other Bin Ladens are just Langley with a hard-on!

The other guys must be B-Unit his new Kru since the Sept-10th split with Al-CIAda over contracts and merchandising

Khaled al-Harbi double agent in the fake Bin Laden video

I did some research and answered my own question, which only leads to more questions.

In the 12/13/2001 conveniently found "confession video" we find the fat, right-handed, gold-wearing, big nosed Bin Laden talking with Khaled al-Harbi. He was on the our side when the US was supporting Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Russians. He was on our side to help Bosnia - where he lost the use of his legs in battle. He made statements of support for OBL, as a good double agent should, "but no al-Qaeda" operative according to Time Magazine.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,994749,00.html

Khaled al-Harbi is probably just acting in the video, the closest the perpetrators could get to a real al-Qaeda member. But al-Harbi had been seen connected with OBL for years. Then he suddently shows up in this important video? Why isn't an active terrorist, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, in the video? Then it would be much more authentic.

So this guy al-Harbi, who was supposedly with OBL, got a lenient sentence for his cooperation (probably including acting in the video). How convenient. Wow, we didn't even have to water board him. Khaled al-Harbi should get an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.

This is one of Barrett and Tarpley's favorite unprovable facts

Makes perfect sense that something like this comes from Barrett, the man who went to find all the alleged living hijackers. Not to mention when I heard Webster Tarpley when he appeared on FOX news after being asked about Bin Laden. His response to the question was "which Bin Laden"? This appeared crazy and silly to not only the hosts who ripped him up (even though Tarpley is so thoughtful and articulate, he didn't drop any solid info and failed dismally at this public appearance). I'm not saying that it folks can't research this if they want. Nor am I saying that I haven't personally seen compelling evidence to support that some footage of Bin Laden is fake. However, it is very hard to prove such things. Because of this difficulty of establishing real vs fake videos, we can find ourselves very quickly looking like discredited fools attempting to show people that Bin Laden is not always a real Bin Laden. When you drop a speculative idea like fake terrorist tapes on the average person, you are opening up a huge can of worms which you must be able defend and back up. Many logically thinking people can easily de-bunk these claims until there is more proof built up. Again this is an area where much more research is warranted. The problem I have seen is that if we go around spreading this idea that some tapes are fake and some are real, we are spreading assumptions which are not conclusive so 9/11 Truth gets discredited.

thoughtful words

i thought eminem was a convincing bin laden in one of his MTV vids

joking aside, i get totally what youre saying
i dont assume so readily these days that people are infiltraitors as i dont know , they could be egoists , thick , well meaning but misguided, or whatever, but its right to outline the credible stuff and go with that when making an argument to someone who is likely in denial
people look to the easiest weakpoint in our argument to attack
the less easy we make that, the sooner they switch to our side