Visibility 9-11 Welcomes Dr. William F. Pepper

This week, Visibility 9-11 visits the topic of COINTELPRO in the 3rd part of a new series on issues facing the 9-11 Truth Movement. "Left gatekeepers", dis-information specialists, agent provocateurs, and internet "trolls" all work to distract and/or discredit the fine work of literally thousands of good and caring Americans involved in 9-11 Truth. It is important to recognize the history of things our government has done which has violated every tenet of a free society.

This broadcast features an interview with author and researcher Dr. William F. Pepper. Dr. Pepper gave a key note speech at the June 2006 conference, 9-11 Revealing the Truth; Reclaiming Our Future, where he warned the crowd of activists of the existence of COINTELPRO forces which would seek to destroy all of their hard work. During his work with Martin Luther King before his murder, Dr. Pepper saw first hand what agents of the state could do to a social movement.

Counter Intelligence Programs, or COINTELPRO, are one more example of the federal governments' raping of our rights. These abuses were going on during the 50's, 60's and 70's, and though they were prohibited by the Church Committee regulations, they have not ceased. They are alive and well within political groups which would seek to bring about truth, justice and accountability to our government. 9-11 Truth is no exception and activists need to educate themselves on the "dirty little tricks" our government uses against our rights to free speech and association. Only then, can we learn to recognize, and then address the attempts which would tear down all of our hard work.

This is one of the most important programs I have ever produced. I hope that you will all take it to heart and encourage others to hear this interview and the entire special report on COINTELPRO.

This episode can be downloaded by clicking here.

EVERYONE...

NEEDS to listen to this.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

I'd like to listen to this

I'd like to listen to this one. Is it up yet?

It...

Should be. I'm listening to it now.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Excellent listening, a must, don't skim it!!

What a great and wise man, thank god he's on our side. Uncle Fetz did fair to well hey and he obviously knows he's under the pump that’s why he didn't mention any of his more controversial theory’s during the interview with the BBC (Bush Broadcasting Corporation).

Thanks great post, regards John

WE GOT TO TAKE THE POWER BACK!

I agree

The truth movement has to be able to separate from the half-truth movement.

Truth & Justice!

Hey!

"[CoIntelPro] all work to distract and/or discredit the fine work of literally thousands of good and caring Americans involved in 9-11 Truth."

Last I checked, they tried the same in regards to non-american efforts...

We need more people like Pepper

He is both inspiring and discerning. His speeches in Chicago and at Cooper Union were amazing. This is the guy who actually won a civil trial and proved a conspiracy in the MLK assassination!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6422766621060724540

I second his call for a march/encampment on Washington DC. Are we serious about changing this world, or what?

International Truth Movement
http://www.truthmove.org

Excellent video, delver.

Much better than the Wolsey audio clip, much more in depth.

Important interview.

Pay particular attention to Pepper's statements on evidence and facts, and getting it right. I know the majority view around here seems to spit on that notion.

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

hmmmm

That's not my impression.

I think the majority here try to keep the facts straight. There is an excessive amount of speculation, though. I think this is primarily due to a group of intelligent people who get a little frustrated and engage their imaginations with the known facts instead of putting that energy into activism. A little more awareness and discipline should keep this in check.

BTW - Thanks for the excellent posts over at AlterNet.

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

The existence of police agents does not justify accusing any spe

I don't think Pepper would disagree with this.

One of the greatest threats to out movement is the tendency to accuse anyone who disagrees with being disinfo. This is the ultimate in sectarianism . What's wrong with disagreeing with someone civilly, with the assumption there may be some truth in their presentation.

I spoke in DC and Chicago on nonviolence. I will also do so in Phoenix. I have and will continue to present the wisdom of Gene Sharp, considered by some to be the "Clausewitz of non-violent warfare. To paraphrase Gene,"The primary danger of police agents is not their lies or their spying. It's their ability to sew mistrust among genuine activists." In other words, it's okay to criticize people's actions and words, just not their motives.

I urge everyone to consider signing the 911truth.org statement on committing to be civil, which I initiated and better wordsmiths embellished.

Monday, February 5 2007

A Commitment to More Civil and Effective Collaboration in the 9/11 Truth Movement

Because we still lack subpoena and discovery powers, members of the 9/11 truth movement and American citizens as a whole will not be able to fully connect the "dots" of 9/11 events until key classified documents and videos are leaked or released. In the meantime, many of us will develop theories about those events and what really occurred. Given the incompleteness of the facts at hand, our theories will invariably differ. They therefore can and should be sincerely discussed and analyzed, but this debate must not obscure the reality that the investigative tasks we face still remain extremely challenging.
We believe our campaign to expose the truth of 9/11 offers the world more essential insights into current political and economic reality than any other modern movement and therefore can empower the most profound social transformation of our age. This work is far too important to debilitate with egotism, zealotry or self-inflicted wounds, and we must make every effort to sustain the unprecedented progress we have made.

Because the 9/11 truth movement presents grave moral, legal and political threats to those in power, we would be naïve to not anticipate covert governmental intervention in our activities and attempts to divide, disrupt and discredit us by promoting hateful or repellant theories and sowing internal discord. Indeed, the greatest risk these forces pose to our work is not espionage or disinformation; it is the provocation of destructive mistrust between authentic activists.

We the undersigned therefore commit ourselves to work together towards our greater goals with the least possible rancor and internal strife. We agree to reject ad hominem denunciations and attacks upon others' motives, and focus our critical attention upon the logic, factual evidence and probability supporting certain hypotheses instead. Our ultimate goal must be the full disclosure of 9/11 truth, which is disserved by factional warfare on behalf of partial points of view. We will strive to fill in the gaps of the evidentiary record, so that facts dictate our conclusions rather than conjecture or emotional charges and appeals.

Finally, since we ourselves must embody the societal changes we wish to see, we vow to continue our work with fierce devotion, but also with mutual respect, selflessness and above all, honesty.

David...

I think the majority of individuals don't appreciate it when people like Jim Fetzer get up on stage, and talk about "Exotic Weaponry." It's not simply about a disagreement. It's about slapping everyone in the face that have been working at this for years. It's about slapping the family members in the face who still have unanswered questions. It's about not wanting a newcomer that we have worked so hard to get being exposed to nonsense, and being turned away by it. It's about not liking the fact that some people have no concern about giving the mainstream media, our enemies most powerful weapon, ammunition. As William Pepper said, they will do anything and everything to discredit us, and we have to be on guard.

I have disagreements with people all of the time in regards to 9/11. My friends, and co-activists. I do not think these individuals are disinformation, nor do I address them as such.

You have to look at the fruits of someone's labor. Some people's fruit in this movement is rotten to the core.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

This post should not have been voted down

Although i do not agree with the sentiments expressed in this post - it is well thought-out and respectful.

David - i would agree that blind accusations are harmful to this movement. I myself have been accused many times of being an 'agent.' It is both frustrating and unfair.

But, while justice should be blind - it need not be deaf, dumb and stupid as well - and there comes a point where attempts to be "fair" translates into surrendering to those who seek to do us harm. How many 2nd chances can we give certain activists?

And when cointelpro-type activities become OVERTLY OBVIOUS and move to the mainstream media to discredit this movement (as it has), I believe the ONLY solution is to shine as much light as possible on the problem, Disinformation only has power when it is viewed as real. Once an audience understands the intentionality of the presenter, and the origins of the material being presented, the issue can be flipped in favor of the movement.

covert counter intelligence operations in the United States are illegal when used to disrupt and threaten peaceful oraganizations. Now, i suppose there are a lot of grey areas here, and in an age when the president of the united states openly declares his right to open our mail and wiretap our phones without consulting with the FISA courts, i suppose all bets are off when it comes to the wacky professor and his space beams.

but - we are indeed looking at this from a legal perspective.

things to keep in mind regarding Dr. Fetzer:

1. He was graduate from Princeton University - magna cum laud. He is no dummy.

2. He joined the marines immediately after graduating.

3, His self-professed area of expertise is in the science of information - and disinformation. He wrote two papers on the subject entitled "Information - Does it have to be true?" and "Disinformation - the use of false information." In a truly Orwellian position he claims that information does need to be true to in fact be considered legitimate information. Using this logic a decoy duck is in fact a kind of duck.

4. Someone i know corresponded with the Oxford Professor he cites and disagrees with in these papers who wrote back to us and stated:

"Your conclusion is indeed a coherent consequence of what Fetzer et al. have been arguing . That is to say, if false information is as good as information (if false banknotes are just a type of banknotes, not something that fails to qualify as banknotes) then spreading and using false information is perfectly fine and acceptable."

Indeed - it appears that Dr. Fetzer has made a science out of knowingly and intentionally LYING.

5. Dr. Fetzer has worked in concert with other KNOWN disinformation websites and researchers - while attacking researchers who present more honest and cogent ideas. A simple review of this chart will show you the relationship between Dr. Fetzer and many of these other sources:

http://crisisinamerica.org/media/disinformation.htm

Are we to believe it is a coincidence that the Space Beams people work inconcert with the No-Planes people and the Hologram people and the attack dogs (like Haupt) and the TVFakery people and on and on?

You see David - we ARE doing our homework.

6 - Fetzer and others in this network of researchers do not appear to correct themselves. Over and over again they present evidence and videos and photos that have been misinterpreted and debunked. I would ask you to review Greg Jenkin's interview of Dr. Judy Woods and gauge the intellectual honesty of her 'scientific' claims.

7 - Supporters of this particular network of 'researchers' appear to be the most aggresive and Vehement in the movement, often presenting thinly veiled threats, threatening rhetoric, and smear campaigns against anyone who challenges their research. The use of nazi imagery, swastikas, concentration camps, etc (which tthey claim is 'satire') exactly mirrors that cointelpro propaganda distributed by the FBI in the 1960s targeting SDS, Jerry Rubin, Abby Hoffman and others.

8 - We know as a fact that cointelpro exists, and that modern day infiltrations are taking place - as documented by Michael Moore in Fahrenheit 911 where he demonstrates that a San Diego anti-war group was infiltrated by a government agent.

9 - All of these facts are currently under review by legal authorities and civil libertarians.

I understand your concerns David. I appreciate your post. But, covert counter-intelligence operations in the United States are a fact. People's lives and livelihoods are being threatened. Some of it is already being reviewed by law enforcement. Nonviolent dialogue is the only solution to this problem. Truth and free speech are the only solutions. This is not about commencing a frenzy of accusations.

Show "Who Says You Are Not Disinfo" by 911TruthNC

If we can demonstrate that

If we can demonstrate that the 9/11 Truth movement has been infilitrated then we will have found yet more evidence for government complicity. There is certainly enough circumstantial evidence that Fetzer and Seigel are disinfo to warrant an investigation into how they might be connected to government agencies.

"Wake up there are no clean hands in the 9/11 Truth Movement."

What a very curious thing to say, Gary.

It's quite possible the most banal blanket accusation I've ever read on this site.

You seem to be decrying divisiveness while simultaneously being very divisive yourself.

There is a term for this, isn't there?

I recall hearing something about people who live in glass houses.......

Pray tell, Gary, what dirt do I have on my hands and what turf am I guarding?

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

well

i'm not the one talking about 'space beams.'

but - just for the record this is what YOU blogged here awhile ago:

"322=911 Refers the concept that the elite secret societies whom uses 322 in their logo. Are ultimately culpable for the events occurring on 9/11. Highly connected individuals from the top ranks of the government, media, military, wall street, are complicit in the crimes and cover up."

"These secret societies place a lot emphasis on symbolism. 322 can be morphed into 911. 3*3 = 9, 2/2 = 1. Reflections of each other so to speak."

maybe this is fun to speculate on. maybe 9/11 is a fun parlor game to some of us where interesting and outlandish theories can enjoy the same attention as credible and relevant research.

but - some of us respectfully disagree. some of us view 911 as a tragedy that should be treated with respect and solemn responsible adult calls for accountability.

theories are like assholes - everybody's got one - but sometimes they are best left unseen and unheard.

Well said

To paraphrase Gene,"The primary danger of police agents is not their lies or their spying. It's their ability to sew mistrust among genuine activists."

That's been my observation.

So how SHOULD we respond to a disruption technique like this?

how to respond to a disruption like that

Why didn't someone in charge walk up to him and ask him to leave? He was disrupting a public meeting. You call the police and ask them to assist you in removing a disruptive/disorderly. How hard is that?

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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

Maybe...

have a couple of designated "doormen" or "bouncers" who can politely ask him to LEAVE.

or call the NYPD.

The guy is clearly "off his nut" and has no desire to expose 9/11 Truth, that much is plainly obvious.

Who he works for, I have no idea but I would not be suprised if it was related to the cover-up.

The people I feel sorry for are Les and the NY911Truth group, what a put off that would be.

Best wishes and good luck

of course

but, the grander issue is the campaign of smears and attacks that is permeating this movement. this church incident is just a handy way of illustrating for people how serious this all is.

Haupt's behavior

is not just limited to that one event. He is part of an ongoing organized campaign of attacks and smears that is undermining this movement.

maybe if you stopped accusing Jon Gold and myself of being agents long enough to use your brain you could actually contribute something towards unity in this movement - in the face of these obvious attacks.

If you haven't already, you

If you haven't already, you must listen to his two-part program from Guns and Butter. It is riveting!

http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=130

http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=131

The Guns and Butter archives have some of the best recorded interviews for CD copying and distribution. We should take advantage of this excellent resource
to put some truth inside the almighty automobile bubble.

This is one of the best hours of radio on 9/11 I've heard recently:

http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=167:

Excellent interview.

You speak for many of us, Michael.

Show "taking disinfo advice from a" by GODZILLA