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9/11 Action Alert!!! - Contact ABC And Tell Them You Want A Debate!!!

Write ABC in support of a debate between Jim Miegs and Prof. Jones.

Also, insist on Paul Thompson accompanying him as well as a representative from the family members.

Something simple, and easy to read... such as:

I support a 9/11 debate between Prof. Steven E. Jones, and Jim Meigs. Also, I must insist that Paul Thompson, and a representative from the family members accompany him.

Thank you.

INSERT NAME HERE

You can email each member of the cast here:

http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/

You can contact ABC here:

ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-4551

(818) 460-7477

And email them here:

http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html

Debate on the View

Griffin is the best suited to take on Meigs, since his most recent book is a full response to Meigs

I dont want a debate

Sorry cant contact, I dont want Jim meigs on the view.

I hate Jim Meigs, I dont want anything to do with him or his magizine.

Just bring a physist professor on the view to saying wtc-7 was a demonilition.

I cant support this, but u do what u want and think is best

Oh come on now, sleepy

You're giving PM way too much credit. Jim Miegs is awful on camera. Every time he runs his mouth he helps us. I think The View's audience is smart enough to see through his BS. Or better yet have them put on that schmuck Davin Coburn. Then have David Ray Griffin and/or Jim Hoffman on to tear PM's 9/11 "research" to shreds.

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

People are Stupid

There are Millions of people who believe PM over everybody else. People arent smart enough to see thru his lies,.

I think that's a myth

and it's designed to disencourage you! Though I will concede that many refrain from confronting the truth head on for reasons other than intellectual -- mostly emotional. But this can be helped.
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everyone needs to stop

putting Steven Jones up for debate, the mans work is excellent however he is WAY to nice and soft spoken to be put in front of a bunch of Reich wing lying assholes, he wouldn't stand a chance.
David Ray Griffin and Keven Barret & Paul Thompson would be best choices.
Maybe use Jones work & power point but not speak.

The good professor...

Can put the smack down on someone without even raising his voice.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

He would never

get a word in edgewise.

Forget it Sleepy

darkbeforedawn We tried to get physists to back the NIST report for about four months and this town is full of them. No one would consider doing this even among the hundreds of grad students. No one will debate this topic EXCEPT for Jim Meigs and Manual Garcia. What does that tell you?
BTW we are sponsoring a "debate" on April 7. No one will back the official story so we are fudging a big. The presenters Kevin Barret and Kevin Ryan will do their best to present the official version from the "official perspective" before they totally demolish this blatant hog was for all to see. Should be fun. Hope you can make it. April 7, Michigan League Ballroom 2pm Ann Arbor Mi

I wrote to ABC

So, thanks to Rosie, other voices in the Main Stream Media are finally calling for a debate on 911. It's about time. If you want the most insightful voice at the table, I recommend Webster Griffin Tarpley, author of "911 Synthetic Terror - made in USA," which topped the Amazon.con sales rankings for several months last fall.

I think

......It would be best for ALL COMMENTS to go to Rosie ,and Barbara.The more information these two get the better they will be to defend the truth!
I would'nt put too much faith in ABC.

Tell them to get Bill Doyle on

Email this to The View:

Radio interview with 9/11 victim's father Bill Doyle who lost his son Joseph Doyle during the September 11th attack...

Original airdate: July 7, 2006

EXCERPT

HOST: Founded in September of 2001, the World Trade Center United Family Group is a nonprofit 501c3, and you were its founder and head and you say you represent over 7,000 people. What is the average view of those that you represent about 9/11 and the cover-up?

BILL DOYLE: What they want is... If you want to believe the 9/11 Commission's story -- like a lot of us don't, ok? You really gotta go look in the... It almost looks like there was a conspiracy about 9/11 -- if you really look at all the facts. A lot of families now feel the same way.

[...]

HOST: With your 7,000 members, I'm sure you've talked to most if not all of them. What percentage would you say believe 9/11 is an inside job to some extent?

BILL DOYLE: Maybe half... Probably 50/50.

Full interview here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/aj_2006-07-07_clipped.mp3

Also send them links to this interview with demolition expert Danny Jowenko where he is shown video footage, for the first time, of Building 7 falling down on 9/11/01:

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sep-HDZoEBM
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boNzLZInbjU

Include this follow-up interview with Mr. Jowenko where he explains that he is still convinced that WTC 7 was controlled demolition even after researching it in much greater detail since he was first shown video footage of the building falling down:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajDxF9uEf4

Here's his contact info:

Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V.
Veerseweg 107
NL – 4351 SL VEERE
Nederland
Tel: +31 118 612735
Fax: +31 118 612779
Mobiel: +31 653 24 21 25
E mail: info@jowenko.com
www.jowenko.nl/

Maybe they can have a witness on too. Craig Bartmer's name comes to mind. Send them this interview with Bartmer:

Former NYPD Officer & 9/11 First Responder Craig Bartmer:

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth."

[...]

"I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."

Speaking Out: An interview with Craig Bartmer:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2283625397351664218

Also send them these eyewitness statements:

-Emergency worker: "We were watching the building [WTC7] actually ‘cause it was on fire… the bottom floors of the building were on fire and… we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder… turned around -- we were shocked to see that the building was ah well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out… it was horrifying… about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that… we saw the building crash down all the way to the ground… we were in shock."

Live 9-11 Report from 1010 WINS NYC News Radio, presented in the documentary "911 Eyewitness" (Forward to 31:30)
Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65460757734339444

-Reporter Al Jones: "People started to run away from the scene [WTC7] and I turned in time to see what looked like a skyscraper implosion -- looked like it had been done by a demolition crew -- the whole thing just collapsing down on itself and another big huge plume of gray and white smoke shooting up into the air and then more of the smoke billowing up the street here... so that’s number one, number two, and now number seven that have come down from this explosion."

Live 9-11 Report from 1010 WINS NYC News Radio, presented in the documentary "911 Eyewitness" (Forward to 28:25)
Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65460757734339444

Or save yourself some time and just send them the link to Jon's blog :-)

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

I'd love to see a real

I'd love to see a real debate as much as anyone, but take care. We know beyond all doubt that the Admin. stooges cannot possibly hold their own. (Didn't the South Carolina debate fall through because they couldn't get enough to argue the OCT in an open, honest forum?) Do you really believe the corporate media allow such a bloodletting?

ANY debate set up by ABC should be immediately suspect. I don't see them allowing Truthers to pick their own team of knowledgeable, articulate experts. David Ray Griffin? Webster Tarpley? Steven Jones? Family members? Perish the thought! They'd either try for the Loose Change guys (who aren't terribly articulate and don't possess the necessary gravitas) or they'd pick a group of disinfo clowns. They'd go off into strawman issues and irrelevancies.
They'd edit the debate for their own purposes and probably splice in sneering interviews with other Admin. whores.

I doubt the show would be aimed at people who are either on the fence or new to the information -- rather, it would be aimed at lulling the concrete-filled 25%ers with cheap debunking tactics. We need to be very discriminating with the media attention we now have.

Now if C-SPAN would air a REAL debate...

My fear is...

They'll have Prof. Jones on, and then have "surprise" guests accompany Jim Meigs. I'm just trying to even the odds if possible.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

don't remind us!

That debate on Democracy Maybe Later with Amy Goodman was a disaster. I remember one of the boys saying that Cheney was defense secretary under Reagan (it was under Poppy) and of course "I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm calling YOU a liar" didn't exactly win over many people to our side. Through the whole thing Goodman was clearly amused--you could see her suppressing many a grin--and the perps got what they wanted--a scenario whereby the followers of the fake left could comfortably say--"Yeah, this seems like BS..."

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

the debate is about controlled demolition

sorry Jon, but injecting Paul Thompson and the Jersey girls into this is pointless since the issue at hand is not one they seem to be willing to talk about. And I agree that the best person to debate Meigs would be DRG.

Like it or not, the OCT is going to be brought down by... CONTROLLED DEMOLITION! All must kneel before the altar, and do please remember to make offerings of gold and frankincense! :)

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

Hey Real Truther

darkbeforedawn"Like it or not, the OCT is going to be brought down by... CONTROLLED DEMOLITION! All must kneel before the altar, and do please remember to make offerings of gold and frankincense! :)"
I don't get this remark. Can you elaborate a little here?

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let's just say that one reason 911blogger is so dynamic is that people here often have diverging views and aren't afraid to say so. instead of enforcing a false camraderie like some communities would, I think this site operates (correctly) on the premise that it is the debate and the issues that are important, not the individuals. the assumption is that everyone here is working towards the same goal (exposing the truth, whatever it may be) and the jousting that ensues helps keep us honest. it's not always easy to maintain civility--humor helps--and every now and then noses will be tweaked. Jon and I disagree on the relative importance of the physical evidence and a few other things, but it can't be denied that he contributes a great deal to the discussion here and our efforts generally. To wit, I probably shouldn't have dredged up the "church of controlled demolition" bit, but hey, it's funny--and it's sort of become shorthand for that particular avenue of disagreement.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

Fellow disciples

Peace be upon our altar, the angle-cut box column
Let aluminium-oxide forever be our frankincense
Light our candles with glowing thermite
Fill our scriptures with strange formulae
And let the heathens witness the roar of the C4
so that one day they too might submit to you
and finally freefall unto the bottom line:

Only thou has the power to raze cages of steel off the earth

And safeguard our pulpits, the internets
A series of tubes like no other
Forever

Amen

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interns < internets

LOL, Bruce

As it was on the eleventh,
It is now and ever shall be,
BOOM! without end.
Amen, amen.

I have no doubt...

That Dick Cheney would like nothing more than for us to put all of our eggs into one basket. I would like to think, however, that the majority of the movement is smarter than that.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

let a million baskets bloom!

At the rate we are laying them, we have so many truth eggs to go around that by necessity we will have to distribute them in a number of baskets. Rosie has picked up the CD basket, though, and I think that says a lot. It means that she, like many of us, thinks it's the best basket to take to her viewers on her first visit. Many eggs, many baskets. Neither Cheney nor Silverstein for that matter will be able to avoid ending up with egg on their face.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

She also chose...

To link to Fetzer's site, as opposed to www.stj911.org. That doesn't mean I should automatically support Fetzer. It is wrong to put all of our eggs into one basket, and Rosie should know that.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

with you on that!

I think Rosie is going to take a while to settle in and find her way around the colorful menagerie of characters that make up the infiltrated truth movement. I too wish she wouldn't link to Fetzer, or talk about John Conner so much ( I don't think calling people zombies is the best approach). But if she wants to focus on building 7, I'm ALL behind that. When she matures as a truther, I hope she will also help to expose what a sham the commission was, including by having the Jersey girls on.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

Dear Jon

Great idea!...........I say the dynamic duo of Dr .Ray Griffin,and Dr. Steven Jones would be the very best choice,however those from the official fairy tale side will run ,and hide as they always do.

Again

........They should have Dr. Griffin and Dr. Jones on first.In a show just dedicated to the truth.After all there has been plenty of anti truth media attention.
Then we can have the debate on a follow up show. It also would'nt hurt to have a family of one of the victims state for the record ....they want the truth!
Maybe Bob McIlvaine?

Jim Hoffman, Kevin Ryan, David Ray Griffin and Then Steven Jones

Steven is great for power point presentations but not at TV appearances or a debate. He is a pleasant guy to listen to and get information from, but not a master debater. You need Jim Hoffman who can not only debate but also rebut very aggressively, and kevin ryan who has a more fluid style when it comes to given information and of course DRG who is like the Martin Luther King of the 9/11 truth movement. Jones is great for scientific accurate research but he needs a representative to explain his point of view.

I think Steven Jones once

I think Steven Jones once said he is more comfortable with holding lectures, rather than doing media interviews etc.

Jones' strenghts

In a radio debate with Leslie Robertson, one of the WTC engineers, Jones effectively LOST the debate. It is not his strength!

http://www.911blogger.com/node/4076

The liars don't deserve a debate

That might sound selfish, or ducking a debate, etc - but its not. I am sick of these lying traitors that don't deserve oxygen, let alone a debate, controlling the conversations. The lie has had tons of air time on the propoganda machine msm, without ever discussing scientific facts, they dont deserve to be on the view or in any other public forum - they already have it lopsided and dont deserve more time. The view should bring on Jones, Griffin, and Ryan and let rosie talk with them for the entire hour. Start with Ryan and Griffin tearing apart the official bs story, and follow up with Jones' data.

That would be watchable. A debate would be just more of the same annoying-to-watch bs. Not to mention you'd need a more strong-spoken personality to control the conversation if there was a debate. Jones,Ryan and Griffin are to soft-spoken for it. You'd need a T-Rex of truth like Alex Jones to handle these lying clowns in any sort of debate scenario (imho)

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Physics/Science/Mathematics do not lie, only people do.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB

I agree

No debate. It will only be rigged.

Hey...

If they ONLY allow Prof. Jones on, that would make me happier than a pig in sh_t. However, based on Michele Malkin's "challenge", I think it's possible they are going to try to push for a debate. If that's the case, I wanted to try and name the terms of that debate. Just playing it "safe". Or trying to anyway.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Id like to know what

you think a debate ANY debate is going to accomplish at this point?
We know that approx. 45-50% of the country KNOWS right now what happened and that 9/11 was an inside job.
We know that at least 28-30% of this country are basically Fundy Reich wing Faux news watching idiots that could not possibly be dissuaded from believing whatever lying garbage FAUX news spews, doesn't matter at all the amount of overwhelming evidence presented and that the Truth side would utterly blow away the Neofascist liars, these people can not be made to see reality no matter WTF you do.

So what we have left is about 20% that could possibly be made to see reality, however if you are part of that 20% and you don't even know that WTC 7 fell, don't know shit from shinola about anything else.
These people sadly are more likely to fall for the bald faced LIES of the Reich wing lunatics before they understand the overwhelming facts of the truth side.

Most of that 20% do NOT want to know the truth they will throw up a wall of cognitive dissonance that all the truth and debate in the world will never penetrate.

What we need to do is mobilize the 100-140 MILLION that already know that 9/11 was an inside job, get them outraged, get them MAD, get them in the streets by the 10s of millions and TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK!.

and if we don't then you can forget it, no amount of debates, no amount of writing to Congress or anyplace else is going to make a damn bit of difference because these Neofascist have all the avenues blocked, they own the media, have Congress completely under control, basically have the judicial system completely controlled etc.

The ONLY way this shit is going to stop is for 10s of Millions to hit the streets damn mad and take it back and phucking mean business.

If not then these Neofascist SOBS are going to get away scott free with Treason, War Crimes, Crimes against humanity and basically destroying the country.

yup

really.
if only this were the 60's...
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head up, eyes open, fist clenched

Thanks Kevin and Alex...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/030407Action.htm


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Epose The Liar

c'mon Jimbo

Why Stop There?

What is so special about ABC? Personally, I'd like to get Stephen Jones on the BBC's Hardtalk, and I'd like a debate on both CNN and the BBC.

I'd like to see a banner that website/blog owners could use - calling for a reinvestigation, for example. Where you where encouraged to get as many other website/blogg owners to copy this banner, and use it on their site/blog. Thus demonstrating that they too supported the cause, even if their site/blog had nothing whatsoever to do with 911.