Has Condi telling him about the first plane after his arrival at the school at 8:55.

That's all we need to know.

And his accounts above.

ANOTHER confirmed lie.

Good work Stallion.

If anyone wants to learn more about this story, see justanidea's blog and the comments posted on it:

Kia Baskerville (CBS) learns of both plane crashes in New York before President Bush?
http://www.911blogger.com/node/8278

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There are several conflicting reports about what time Bush actually left the hotel. The 9:35 you posted is just one of the times given.

The first plane is reported to have hit between 9:40AM-9:46AM

I've documented this extensively and it was very possible for Bush's motorcade to arrive at the Booker school when reported between 8:55AM-9AM.

Here's Bill Sammon's description of Bush's motorcade leaving from the hotel to Booker..

"The police shut down traffic in both directions, leaving roads utterly deserted for Bush's long motorcade, which barreled along at 40 mph, running red lights with impunity." [Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From Inside the Bush White House, by Bill Sammon, 10/02, pp. 37-38]
It was a 9 mile drive from the hotel to the school. Running red lights at speeds of 40mph would take approx 10 minutes.

You can view some of my research on the Jack Blood forum where I blogged about these events nearly 2 years ago.
http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=22262#22262

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"If I had just paid $20 million for the NIST report, I'd be asking for a refund!" -Dr. Frank Greening

or have these weird timezones re-appeared ???

I thought Florida, Washington and New York are all eastern Time....

Best wishes

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I grew up in Sarasota, and as a matter of fact I'm visiting there right now. I could verify this drive time if I knew the hotel.

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"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

We do...

Colony Resort on Longboat Key. The problem is, you're going to be restricted by lights, traffic, etc... Also, we don't know the exact route he took.

Do we?

Only one way on and off Longboat going into Sarasota. The other way goes into neighboring Bradenton, and that would be WAY out of the way on a trip to Emma E. Booker. Anyway, I thought I could clock the drive a few times in traffic, then average to get an idea of how long it takes. This could give a better idea of how long without traffic. Probably a waste of time and gas though. 10 minutes sounds about right for that trip with no traffic or lights.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Maybe on Paul Thompson's site?
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_ti...

EDIT

Yes here it is:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a846motorcadetold#a8...

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The same?

Edit: HA! it is!

Edit: Wait... no it isn't. Bush hooked around the coastline.

for the President's motorcade.

According to the owner of the Colony Hotel, the President left at exactly 8:30 AM.

For some reason it took him almost a half hour to drive about 10 miles on cleared roads, which should have only taken about 10 minutes.

The big question is what the hell was Bush doing in his hi-tech limo for the half hour?

Where's your source for that?

EDIT

OK now I think I understand. Bush may have walked out of the actual hotel building as early as 8:30AM, but I've seen reports that his limo didn't drive away until much later than that.

And I find it hard to believe that anyone was timing Bush's movements on the morning of 9/11 at the hotel before the first plane had even hit. Why would anyone be looking at their watch or a clock at the exact moment Bush left for the school? Besides, watches and clocks have been known to be off by five or more minutes. IMO I don't think someone's statement about what time Bush's limo drove away can be trusted as fact.

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"If I had just paid $20 million for the NIST report, I'd be asking for a refund!" -Dr. Frank Greening

that was published in Sarasota Magazine shortly after 9/11.

Katie Klauber Moulton is the manager of the hotel.

The decision to have President Bush spend the night of Sept. 10 at the Colony can be traced back to a locally famous incident during the hotly contested presidential election of 2000. This is where Al Gore stayed�in a cottage with the unhappily prophetic name of Castaways�while he rehearsed for the memorable second debate, during which he told the story about the girl at Sarasota High School who didn�t have a desk. Now, when last-minute logistics made a one-day trip to Jacksonville and Sarasota impossible, the Secret Service knew just the place to camp for the night. The Colony is low-key, discreet and, most of all, easy to secure.

The President�s motorcade arrived at 6 p.m., and he was met by Katie Klauber Moulton, manager of the Colony.

The President was up at six and gave in to the Secret Service when they requested that he not jog on the beach, for security reasons. He was driven to Harbourside Gulf Course in the neighboring Longboat Key Club.

After a four-and-a-half mile run, the President returned to the Colony and showered. He left promptly at 8:35 but not before thanking the Klaubers and the Colony staff, each member personally when possible.

The motorcade set out and soon disappeared southward on Gulf of Mexico Drive. The President was on Highway 301, just north of Main Street, heading toward Booker Elementary when, on the phone that Katie Moulton had been admiring just hours before, he received the news that a plane had crashed in New York City.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011204000548/http://sarasotamagazine.com/Pa...

(The Colony is owned by the Klauber family)

"He left promptly at 8:35"

This could easily have meant that he walked out the exit doors of the hotel at "8:35AM". And that's based on what? Whose watch or clock? Was the time of the watch or clock accurate? Please post your source that the clock or watch was accurate and that they weren't talking about 8:35AM being the time he walked out the exit doors of the hotel.

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This certainly places him in the limo when the first plane hit at 8:46 AM and the article clearly states that he received the news while he was in the limo on the way to Booker.

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&foru...

Like I said. Post your source for who was looking at their watch at the exact moment the limo pulled away from the hotel. Post your source that their watch or clock was accurate.

Cochran said a reporter asked the question before the limo left the hotel. Bush could have been in the limo at the time with the window down talking to reporters standing outside of it. Or maybe he hadn't gotten in the limo when the reporter asked the question. The call to the reporter could have came as early as 8:46AM via a cell phone informing him/her about the first plane hitting the WTC - and they asked Bush immediately following the call if he knew what was going on in New York. Bush's limo still had enough time to get to the school when it was reported to have arrived there - sometime between 8:55 and 9AM.

Prove that this could not have happened exactly how I've just described.

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"If I had just paid $20 million for the NIST report, I'd be asking for a refund!" -Dr. Frank Greening

It is a detailed, blow by blow account of Bush's activities in FL on 9/10 and on 9/11.

This is not the only reference in the story about where Bush was when he was first asked about the attack.

Every report is clear that Bush was not even asked about the attack in NY until after the first plane hit. Even if he found out at 8:47 AM, it would still place him in the limo on the way to Booker.

Sorry, if it doesn't collaborate the latest video find. Why is someone on ABC who probably misspoke, more credible then a local reporter who was actually with the President?

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&foru...

I asked you to back up your claim, but you cannot.

Instead you posted your lame unsourced article on 2 pages of this thread and run around to other websites posting the same unsourced/unproven article trying to discredit John Cochran's report.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8681
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum...

Prove that your article wasn't talking about Bush walking out the exit doors of the hotel building.

Post your source for who was looking at their watch or clock the moment Bush's limo drove away.

Post your source proving that their watch or clock was accurate.

Still waiting...

By the way, John Cochran WAS WITH THE PRESIDENT:

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in the next paragraph:

He left promptly at 8:35 but not before thanking the Klaubers and the Colony staff, each member personally when possible.

The motorcade set out and soon disappeared southward on Gulf of Mexico Drive. The President was on Highway 301, just north of Main Street, heading toward Booker Elementary when, on the phone that Katie Moulton had been admiring just hours before, he received the news that a plane had crashed in New York City.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011204000548/http://sarasotamagazine.com/Pa...

it's still possible that an earlier call was placed to the reporter at the hotel informing them of the first plane hitting the WTC - who then asked Bush if he knew what was going on in New York as his limo was getting ready to leave for the school. The calls would have only been a few minutes apart. So maybe Bush got a call in the limo too. It still doesn't disprove John Cochran's report.

You should try getting a statement from him and post it here when you do. Ask him who the reporter was that asked Bush the question about what was going on in New York at the hotel.

I posted his contact info on page 3 of this thread.

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"If I had just paid $20 million for the NIST report, I'd be asking for a refund!" -Dr. Frank Greening