David Ray Griffin & Robin Hordon on Carol Brouillet's radio program - 5-7-2007

Other good shows at We The People Radio Network

And you can get many other good shows (with podcasts) at We the People Radio Network.

http://wtprn.com/archives.html

In iTunes you can "Subscribe to Podcast" in the Advanced menu and paste in the following links:

Gary Franchi (Lone Lantern Radio)
feed://mp3.wtprn.com/Franchi.xml

Carol Brouillet (Questioning War, Organizing Resistance)
feed://mp3.wtprn.com/Brouillet.xml

Kevin Barrett (9/11 and Empire)
feed://mp3.wtprn.com/Barrett.xml

Cosmos (Truth Revolution) (dz is the guest on April 27th)
feed://mp3.wtprn.com/TRR.xml

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How did CNN and BBC have foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse, yet five years later, the government cannot explain it?

DIGG

Hordon's previous appearances

I prefer these two, because they are more concise and have no commercial breaks. FOr anyone not yet familiar with Robin Hordon, I think they work better. The first one has a particularly clear explanation of past and present FAA scrambling protocols:

http://media.libsyn.com/media/visibility911/visibility911_hordon.mp3
http://aud1.kpfa.org//data/20070418-Wed1300.mp3

Thanks

Was looking for just something like that.

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How did CNN and BBC have foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse, yet five years later, the government cannot explain it?

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Of Course

Of course you think he is a "disgusting human being" because you feel threatened due to his expertise and insight. You just want to believe the worst FAA/NORAD failure in history and simultaneously need all FAA controllers to nod at being blamed for their long notice times.

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When all else fails....

...USE THE CAPS, LUKE!

LOL!

Well, my little debunk Sith padawan, I see you're dropping all pretense of "hands off "comment moderation at your "blog". You banned me, you want to keep it a secret for some reason--hey everyone, SCREW LOOSE BANNED ME!--ahem--and yet you continue to allow Sword of [phallic issues] to taunt people about their penises. Yep, you lot are ALL class.

BTW--the IP you probably banned last night, about the same time you DELETED MY COMMENTS FROM YOUR BLOG--hey, this cap thing is fun!--is the wi-fi connection of Powell's Coffee Shop. Hope you didn't inconvienence a fellow debunk with your "cleverness"...what am I saying--you lot don't DO books! ;-P

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Show "No Secret Here" by JamesB

While you're at it you might want to change the library ban too

Jenny will let you in on a little secret--she doesn't own one bloody modem. All these machines I use? NONE of them are MINE! LOL!!!!!!

So, how are you enjoying the JREF admin smack down? And how DID you find out the fake Pat and the fake Nico come from the same location--if you're really NOT working with Nico?

And how do you know I'm telling you the truth about the Powell's IP--or anything for that matter? From the nearly obsesive haste to blog my pics AND assume they're me without question...well, they might revoke your debunk card, love...

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Hey JamesB...

What number are you? We need 15,000 signatures. We've gotten about 4000 in the last week or so. Surely someone as educated in the 9/11 attacks as you understands the significance of the release of this documentation.


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Misunderstood Hordon

James,

I think you misunderstand what Hordon was saying. Hordon stated that Burlingame was involved in determining weaknesses in the Pentagon's defence for the purpose of of strengthing its defense, not as an active conspirator to cause 9/11. This is similiar to a situation where companies will hire hackers to attempt to break their system in order to learn about their weaknesses. Hordon's comment was that as a result of this study, it was known to top brass at the pentagon that using existing protocols it would be unlikely that the pentagon would be succesfully attacked. Whether or not Hordon is right about this aspect (wargaming the attack vs simply a MASCAL exercise) is of course open for debate. But nowhere did Hordon accuse Burlingame of being in on the plot.

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"A MASCAL exercise in the

"A MASCAL exercise in the military has a very specific meaning, and is not a wargame, "

A military excersie, by definition is a wargame, Jimbo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_exercise

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A military exercise (also called war game in American English) is the employment of military resources in training for military operations, either exploring the effects of warfare or testing strategies without actual combat."

Now I KNOW you're shilling--because you SHOULD have known better than try to pass that, all things considered...

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Show "Get a Clue" by JamesB

You get a clue--and learn to read while you're at it:

either exploring the effects of warfare or testing strategies without actual combat."

Now I'm going out on a limb here, but "a massive casualty event" is a common "effect of warfare". It's a wargame, Jimbo, unless you're about to tell me there are separate designations for excerises based on the object:

"Yes, we'll be running a "RED CROSS" game next month..."
"Last week we had the "rescue hostages" excersise..."
"What we need is to run a "save all civilians before they're blown to smithereens" game soon..."

Returning to the real world, all these hypothetical people would say "military excersise" or WAR GAME--as you well know. Shill.

Thank you for the invite, I don't think I'll have much in common with your weekend warrior mates. But hey, why don't you come DOWN to P-town for the DRG event? You can show up, heckle Dr. Griffin and then security can throw you out! It'll be fun!

I'm helping security, BTW...;-)

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Sorry can't make it

Yeah, I am going to be lectured on military exercises by someone whose entire military experience is comic books and Wikipedia. Sorry, I can't make it. I was actually thinking of going to see DRG here in Seattle, but I have to be out of time on a consulting project. Heck, we have already got him to issue one major correction on his new book, and I haven't even had the chance to read it yet.

He has to be "out of time"...

Whoa... does that mean it's, like, ultra secret time travel stuff? Who's the comic book character now, Jimbo? ;)

Ahem...

Yeah, I am going to be lectured on military exercises by someone whose entire military experience is comic books and Wikipedia.

I'm a veteran, you wee ponce. Got out just before the FIRST Gulf War--which my boyfriend of the time served in.

Stepped right in that one, you did.

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Robin is not a disgusting

Robin is not a disgusting human being, but it's too bad he seems to favor the possibility of Burlingame being involved-- which would mean large-scale US military involvement, which I would rule out.

Hordon also seems to have fallen for the no-757 fraud at the Pentagon, as have quite a few others.

But he is also one of the most sincere and articulate activists we have. That he is mistakenly following a few false leads should not be held against him.

Carol

did an excellent job as usual. Women like her are the reason we will win this thing. Very good interview. Anyone who still believes the official bull shit story needs medical help. Perhaps a brain implant.

Off topic...

Has anyone seen this Kent State news?? This is pretty huge.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070507224340379

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kent+state+tapes

Proof positive that the U.S. government will kill its own citizens (STUDENTS!) for their political views. Or, it could be a fake, released at this moment in history to scare us into thinking they will gun us down... More likely the former case.

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

-Neil Young "Ohio"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIyL8ti3SME

every truncheon hit, misguided
the peoples army divided
united stance amped out war dance
what a ride
inner thought of non-violent rebellion
outside dare to die stand and fight
show faith
return all the weapons
government says use them right
fixed action set in motion doubting amnesia potion what to hide red carpet ride
guessing right
AH HAHAAAA! the jokes on
dark corner the square
AH HAHAAAA! you bathe once a week
distorted the viewpoint seldom seen

wayback in '68 ohio kent state was nothing so great

have of have not forcing the point shot in the back take it back
down trod soldier away
flower power within kill me
kill this way of life

and be known one by one they'll be coming down altogether sister machine gun
automatic high what a ride
what a trip
tripped over the candlestick
tanks arrive, fire wall got to keep the camera alive
tell the world whats going on here
warning shots are fired at the stomach chest wound coed falls
amped out, amped out, amped out...

changing guns for brooms the guards change to clean up crews

AH HAHAAAA! the jokes on you
dark corner the square
AH HAHAAAA! you bathe once a week
distorted the viewpoint seldom seen

way back in 68 every thing was so great! no way, wrong date

keep up the trade balanced charade close circuit truth used to remove
keep the camera alive

what a head-trip.

-Skinny Puppy "Tin Omen"

Oh, hell... Just for fun: (and for Pro-test...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VyHuB5gU8c&mode=related&search=

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

As I said...

In that thread about students not knowing the year of 9/11, "This doesn't scare me as much as the polls that indicate the majority of the soldiers serving in Iraq think Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11."

Imagine what our soldiers are being told. Imagine what they could be told about the citizens of this country. That is one of the reasons non-violence is important. The minute you start using force, they know exactly what to do.

That fear is partly what prompted me to write this.

Some Neil.


It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

Ignorance.

Ignorance is probably our biggest obstacle, and one of the biggest tragedies of the current human condition. The intellectual impoverishment that has been visited upon the populace is nearly as bad as the economic variety.

Poverty
Hunger
Plague
War
Ignorance

Control. Learn it children.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Turn off...

Sean Hannity & Alan Colmes, Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson, Joe Scarborough, Wolf Blitzer, Lou Dobbs, Geraldo Rivera, Keith Olbermann, and many others, and start to read. Come to your own conclusions. Don't believe what we of the 9/11 Truth Movement are telling you. Do your own research. All we can do is give people some direction, but they have to come to their own conclusions.


It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

Carol should interview Alex Constantine

I DO wish Carol would interview Alex Constantine. He is the best political researcher, following in the footsteps of Mae Brussell.

Visit: www.alexconstantine.com

OT - Bill O'Reilly on 9/11

Did anyone see last night when Bill said, "There are no lies. Only mistakes". He was talking about the new poll that indicates 35% of Democrats and 15% of Republicans think Bush knew of 9/11 in advance. He got all conspiratorial on George Soros, that he was controlling all these fringe groups and plotting a one world government.

I wish the Democratic strategist would have said, people demand a new investigation...not conjecture.

NIST to consider WTC 7 explosives

NIST hasn't finished...

Ok, just so I'm clear on this, is their report for the Towers final? They're still buying time on BLDG7...

...'Cause, if their report on the Towers is final, guess what... they don't get to open their stupid mouths again. Their uscientific nonsense will have to stand on its own "merits".

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

Level of intellect over at Kos is depressing.

Let's see, structural steel girders Vs. what, rebar? Compression forces in the Towers Vs. tension forces in the bridge, (vertical Vs. horizontal load)... Can people not understand that a highway overpass and a sky-scraper are two RADICALLY different structures?

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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

I think I remember now that it was discussed

on 911Blogger but panned as not significant.

Show "What a dingbat" by ChrisP

What a dingbat?

Are you for real? Carol is a mother and an activist, not a talk show host. I thought she did just fine and should be congratulated on a job well done, not insulted. You should do so well.

Maddog

I agree with your general disposition.