Confirmed: No "View" tomorrow

William Rodriguez has confirmed that the 9/11 View episode is not going forward tomorrow, but may be re-scheduled, and he wants people to know that he made the final call. However, he insists that bigger and better things are coming down the pipe, hence, the Sunjata post further down the page.

To hear it from the horse's mouth, check out Rodriguez's comments on the Alex Jones show earlier today (third hour). (click on infowars main stream) (follow the radio links to D/L)

If you haven't seen today's "The View" episode, you may find it informative. Elizabeth was off her leash today;

Down, girl!

We're with you, Rosie.

Just an Idea

I had an idea about a year ago for a 911 truth public relations concept that maybe someone might like to run with if it has any merit. It would be kind of a mock support group organization (like a 12-step program) for 911 truthers called "Nine Eleven Conspiracy Theorists Anonymous" (NECTA). Someone could write a book about our plight and our experiences as disenfranchised Americans--We suffer from this disease-like condition where our perception of reality has been influenced by what seems to be very obvious and straight-forward info. concerning 911 and our govt., yet we are doomed to suffer cognitive disonance and perpetual exile from our communities because we can never again accept the cultural myths upon which the post-911 world is based. What are we to do? Are we all crazy? Could the mainstream "normal" folk help to guide us back into the fold? Perhaps they could examine the ideas that define our mental condition and help us see the light. Anybody?

Psychological post...

Here's a couple really good posts from while back that may be helpful to you, mconnolly.

Psychiatrists and Psychologists: Government's 9/11 Story is Crazy

The Psychology Behind the Denial of 9/11 Truth

Psychology of not thinking

Elizabeth Hasslebeck...

"He should have definitely panicked the children..."
"What's his plans to keep us safe?"
"Isn't he using the media to promote his book and his film?"
"They stick by him for not demanding a pullout date for our troops."

Has a thing for Sean Hannity.

Rosie found out that "debunkers" can't answer a direct yes/no question.

It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

Very true.

Very true.

The kids!!

Elizabeth's comments about 'panicking the kids' made me sick to my stomach.

Absolutely disgusting.

In the time that we supposedly needed our 'president' the most, she's worried about 'panicking' some kids, as if our 'president' couldn't have possibly excused himself without 'panicking' the kids while the events were unfolding.

What a joke.

'panicking the kids'

Not sure why RO let EH get away with that comment.

How did the SS know that GWB was not a target? His school visit was published in advance. Leaving him at the school with the kids actually made them all targets too!

Rosie didn't say anything

Rosie didn't say anything about the stupid scaring the kids comment because that segment was supposed to be Joy's little bit.

Rosie's Side.

Rosie wasn't on top of her game. She lost her cool and probably is falling victim to the amount of stress she has felt lately. It was easy to see.

i disagree

elizabeth lost her temper... rosie just seemed sad about it all. figures that elizabeth supports war and rosie is saddened by it.

now what i want to know is if willie canceled then why did that necessarily mean the LC guys couldn't go on? all this drama is extremely off-putting.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force





Watching the TV when the first space shuttle exploded as it took off and the teacher was aboad as the first civilian to go to space?

I was in 4th grade. Every school in America with the capability were watching as that happened. It was traumatic. We all lived.

Those kids would have been just fine. There is a chance that they would have been sheilded from the event for several more hours if the President had simply excused himself.

But it was supposed to be an event. He was with the children for a reason. It could have been because of the allegid hit attempt on him earlier.... but I really just think that they wanted to supplant the subliminal thought of the children into your scope of the tragedy. When bad things happen, people are supposed to think of the children in order to tug at their emotional and response instincts.

Those children standing behind the Bush did serve their purpose as they were meant to do. They were not killed or injured, but they could have been..... and that's all some people need.

Terrorists have attacked us...... what are we going to do?
Together in Truth!

I often wonder if anybody

I often wonder if anybody sees the irony of
A sitting President reading a pet goat story
from an UPSIDE DOWN book, while in front of
a handwritten sign that reads "Reading Makes
A Country Great!".....while we are under "attack".

the book wasn't upside down

not that you can tell from this

If that is in fact true, I

If that is in fact true, I respectably retract that statement.
Not sure why I was under the impression it was.
Thanks for the correction.

I too was...

A Kid when then Challenger blew up. I was in the third grade. In the auditorium on the stage , behind the big curtin watching with my entire class and my mean ass teacher Ms. Sinclair. I remember it like it was yesterday. We Lived! But never mind any of that . Nobody ever said it had to be a dramatic event ( him leaving promptly) . That Elizabeth " Moron" has no idea what she babbles about ever. She hears the Hennitys and the O'reilys and the Becks and the rest of the duchebag clan and mimmics there words or what she thinks they might say if they were there. Her behavior and reaction during the conversation is just typical of any debunker or person in denile anout 9/11. But seriously " umm children i'm afraid i have an important matter to tend to . If you'll excuse me i have to go right now but Ms. Jones will be happy to fnish reading this lovely book to you . ( right side up of course) . I had a wonderful time here with you this morning and i promise i'll return again soon".
Anyone who's plays the kid card on that needs there head checked or better yet, they need to just go away.
Mike in Florida....

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

Claiming that after Bush was told America is under attack, he

sat there so very long, "not to panic the kids" is utterly preposterous! Anyone like Elizabeth who offers this absurd lie of an excuse needs to be challenged on the spot!

There are definitive protocols to be followed immediately upon such a Presidential emergency, and I'm sure just sitting there like a fool, and then continuing a planned photo-op while all hell is breaking loose in NYC is not one of them!

LIzard Hastlebeak

"Panicking the kids".
This woman makes me throw up everytime I see her.

I can just see her as as the defense attorney at the Jeffrey Dalmer trial:
She would argue in Jeffrey's defense that he was just trying to get his daily protein.

ABC Video Proves Bush Knew About 9/11 Attacks Before Booker Elementary Visit

What do you say about that Gilamonster lizard traitor ignorant bitch ?
Get your facts straight before running off that lying know it all motor mouth of yours !!!!!!!!

Its only the liberty and freedom of 300,000,000 Americans at stake !

And by the way the one video above exposes a whole bunch of people lying.

Maybe others here know of some quotes by Bush and others that claim he only first learned about the 911 attacks in the class room while he was reading the Pet Goat book. The video above exposes that they are deliberate lies.

Seems like this video above should go on the main page ?
Have to let people know that Bush knew about the plane hitting WTC 1 before he left his hotel the morning of 911.


Man I can't imagine you having a discussion with a stranger about 9/11 in some bar. That stranger disagrees with your theories on 9/11...


"You stupid bitch non-patriot ignorant traitor scum fucker!!!!"


"Hey, you are right, I should take a new critical look at the attacks of 9/11!!!"

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

except this isnt some bar

except this isnt some bar and the guy is just venting. Hasselbeck is a moron though, you have to admit that.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

moron is a strong word...

Sorry man I didn't mean to come off all preachy and shit. I read my own comment and that is what I saw.

The thing I'm trying to point out is that 9/11 and American pop-life in general can be a constant barrage of psychological abuse.

Hassbech is dealing with it like any person would deal with massive psychological trauma. It is the big lie. Like millions of others she finds every reason why her own world view relative to 9/11 is the acceptable and 'right' one. Mainly, 'the government said so' or 'everyone knows what happened' (another variation of 'the gov. said so".

I would say she is not a moron but merely human.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

its no problem.....

though i cant give her that much of a pass because ive seen her do this for far too long. even before Rosie came on the show she was always good for a rightwing talking point based on the latest Hannity/O'Reilly rant and never based on facts. its one thing to not be aware but to actively espouse a certian point of view because you think your supposed to or because your husband is a big republican and you get invites to the White House is another. she always goes out of her way to make the percieved rightwing argument, so much so that it really is hard to tell if she geuniunely believes what shes saying or if she merely thinks shes supposed to. she clearly feels some sort of obligation to stick up for only republicans. maybe moron wasnt the best word(though lets be honest, she really doesnt seem like the brightest bulb does she? all i hear is talking points from her, no original thoughts ever.). intellectually lazy partisan hack is more fitting i guess.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

It's possible to be TOO gentle

It's been six freakin' years already of recovering from trauma and watching as the unchallenged official story enables the powers that be to drag us further and further down a hell-hole. Without getting ad-hominem, there are certain debating points which we should make known in no uncertain terms just won't fly. The fatuous Bush-just-didn't-want-to-panic-the-kids malarkey is one of them.

Pay no attention to the

Pay no attention to the Bush/kids psyop.

Now follow the ball:

By 8:20 the FAA has lost contact with AA11.

At 8:46 the scramble order goes to Otis to intercept A HIGHJACKED AIRLINER inbound to NYC.

At 8:46 AA11 whacks WTC1.

Cheney to Russert: Secret Service had stovepipe from FAA after WTC1 hit.

Secret Service in WTC7 has front row seat for WTC1 hit, sees 125-ft gash in tower, is talking to FAA, is not stupid.

At 8:46 Bush is still en route to Booker.

Secret Service knows "America is Under Attack(R)" before Bush enters Booker.

Bush loiters in school until 9:30, at which time he delivers, ON SCHEDULE, a live speech, thus announcing to the world that HE IS STILL AT BOOKER.

The Booker School is 3 miles from Sarasota-Bradenton Airport and was NOT DEFENSIBLE.

At @10:00 Bush pauses to wave to reporters from the ladder of Air Force One, which finally takes off, UNESCORTED, though MacDill AFB is minutes away by air.

Now, which cup is the ball under?

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

"Secret Service in WTC7 has front row seat for WTC1 hit,.....

.....sees 125-ft gash in tower, is talking to FAA, is not stupid."

This is not emphasized often enough....the NY Secret Service would've IMMEDIATELY FELT the crash as soon as the North Tower was hit, due to their vantage point in 7, and must've contacted the agents "guarding" Bush instantly....yet Bush is still at Booker giving a speech 44 minutes later.....incredible....

Thank you for this post, MF; well layed-out.

Then again, DO pay attention to it

and proceed to learn about all the other stuff.

For people who haven't yet really questioned the official story, just getting them to focus on the bizarreness of the scene at Booker can get them to realize--even if they know nothing else--that somehow there is indeed something rotten in this state of Denmark.

Stupid Barbie!

Bla bla bla...

You can't hide a lie for long. Truth shall come out.

On that note

Got the bubble-headed bleach blonde
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash
With a gleam in her eye

--Don Henley

William Rodriguez

Did William Rodriguez give a reason why he "made" the final call to not appear on the View tomorrow? What caused him to make that decision?

I, too, would like to know

Mr. Rodriguez' integrity is beyond question here, but I must admit the overall scenario (i.e., Mark Cuban's comments about LCFE, the odd selection of guests on The View, the whole Virgin airline showing LC2E episode, etc.) is beginning to feel like some manipulation is taking place behind the scenes, and I don't think it's a censorious ABC that is to blame here.

The first thing that comes to mind regarding this blog post is: Why didn't Willie have David Ray Griffin, who is script doctor for LCFE (so there's an entertainment tie-in angle here), fill in for him?


I find Dylan (enigs on this site) recent evasions about how things "have" to be kept secret a total copout.and completely antithetical to what this movement stands for. Aks questions and demand answers--just not of them! "Trust us" is like a boxcutter--it just doesn't fly in the post 9/11 world. Also what the hell is this talk about "their fans"? Is this a social movement or the Billboard Top 40?


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force



I have not heard of this guy or his story...

I wonder if there's a reason for that....?

The wackiest part of that report

is that it actually quotes what it calls conspiracy blogs. I don't think I've ever seen that in a newspaper.

Then again, I've never seen the Rocky Mountain News before.

See this, too...

Posted Sat, 03/17/2007

"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

I've been waiting for this to resurface....

Another wild goose chase for us to run in circles about? Seems like it...

If the videographer had any damning evidence he should have released it. He's apparently afraid for his life. i don't buy it.

If you read the story about his wife being's a little sketchy. They found a note behind a framed photograph and that was the 'newly discovered' suicide note they used to get him off the hook for capping his wife.

Why would his wife hide a SUICIDE note behind a photograph hanging on the wall?

Around and around we goooo.....

I'm about to file this with...

ISI Pakistani triple spook agents
Delmart Vreeland
Omar Saiid Sheikh
Sibel Edmonds
etc. etc. etc.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

Show "Around and around we goooo..." by Jon Gold

right on jpass

I would tack on the Loose Changout Final Cuban fiasco™, the Mike Ruppert Flees to Venezuela Melodrama™, and the Nico Haupt Feces and Swastikas in the Church Incident™

ever since that first explosion burned off Felipe David's skin in the basement while everyone was looking up at a plane alleged to be AA11 hitting the top of the north tower there has been a nonstop theatrical extravaganza of misdirection to distract from a simple case of arson, insurance fraud and murder.

Arrest Larry Silverstein and the truth will be known. Arrest him now, before he kills again.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


oh and who can forget Richard Andrew Grove?

well, actually I think most people have forgotten him and his convoluted "exposé". nuff said.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


My beef with Sibel Edmonds is that...

Not sure who Dick Grove is.

What do you think about Sibel Edmonds? I watched some movie trailer about her and it's just too much for me to handle anymore.

Many 9/11 heros all appear to be scripted parts of a badly written theatrical presentation called 9.11.2001.

Her movie trailer has her buzzing around like a sexy sekrit fbi spook agent on the run with valuable informatioon to hide. It's reminisant of that Vallery Plame non-story that led to......nowhere? Remember all the images of her and her husband in sekrit spook poses...007 all the way.

I have not investigated her very much but the entire scenario seems so stage managed and hoaky. The trailer of her movie makes me entirely suspicious of her story right off the bat.

And you mention the Great Venezuela / Ruppert Excape....well we've already wasted too much time on this shit.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

yeah i agree

While I'm open to the possibility that shenanigans were afoot in the FBI's translation office my BS detector has developed a tingling itch anyy time Sibel comes up. Especially after that made for Hollywood movie trailer. Have you noticed JPass that Vanity Fair seems to publish the most odd stories? Always teetering on the edge of some kind of massive revelation, they were all over Plame and her man and many other stories but like you said, they seem more sexy than substantial. I'm quite sure that the whole plame thing was intended to distract us from 9/11, and Sibel's storyline sure seems to fit the mold. I grew up in a government family, had friends whose parents were "spooks", hung out inside of embassies, played bball with the marine security guards. Look, the glamorous 007 razzle dazzle is utter BS. It's not that hard to tell fiction from reality when you've seen the reality up close. Fiction is always slightly over the top, like Sibel's trailer. I'm officially and quite comfortably agnostic on her and her trickle of revelations, leaning towards skeptical as time goes on. Hear that? The people are getting suspicious! Time to reveal a little more leg! Are we up the thigh yet? Oooo can't wait for more...

Grove came out a year or two ago with some convoluted story about shenanigans going on with Marsh McLellan, a company with offices in one of the towers, some super secret software, etc. He revealed his story in a long ass mp3 audio clip of him telling the story like he was reading a spy thriller. Everyone complained they couldn't follow the threads of intrigue so someone posted a transcript in short order. I think Meria Heller promoted his story on her show and then he and the story just fizzled, I have no idea where it stands and no one really discussed it after about two weeks. Eventually I hope people learn that this steady stream of convoluted crap is most likely part of the disinfo meant to cloud and confuse. You can't hide truth out of sight, you can only muddy the waters to make it hard to figure out. That's why we have to be focused on basic issues like the demolition of the towers. I registered precisely because I wanted to stress the importance of the demolition above all of the noisy speculation I encountered when I dove into truthing "full time". The struggle continues to distract and deflect attention away from those crimes and their prime suspect, Larry Silverstein, who may well kill again if he is not arrested.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


"Hear that? The people are

"Hear that? The people are getting suspicious! Time to reveal a little more leg! Are we up the thigh yet? Oooo can't wait for more..."

Laughing My Ass Off

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

Birds of a Feather

It took me a couple of years to sort out who is who in the real truth movement and the fake one, but sometimes you get a freebie. Outstanding example is the YouTube video of Ace Baker's 9/11 truth song, "Do You Remember?". In the credits, the viewer is directed to ALL of the fake people (Fetzer/Reynolds/Wood, Haupt, Killtown, Webfairy, PlaguePuppy etc.) and sites and NONE (no Steve Jones, no Paul Thompson, no Kevin Ryan, no David Ray Griffin, etc.) of the real ones. Wow. That makes it pretty clear.

So who is pushing Sibel big time? Wayne Madsen! Ok, Wayne has pushed all sorts of dead end false BS on his tabloid site and has never broken a real story. QED, if Wayne Madsen is pushing her, Sibel is a dead end distraction.

As for Vanity Fair, it is managed opposition, a neoliberal tool for posting limited hangouts vs the neocons for partisan gain. But Vanity Fair is not going to bring down the system. Vanity Fair is the system.

beware the binary fallacy!

It's never quite as simple as real and fake...

Actually there's three general types--the real truth movement (honest folk), the fake truth movement (dishonest folk not generally perceived to be dishonest) and the FAKE fake truth movement (dishonest folk who are intentionally very obviously dishonest.) The last group exists to give the second group a way to achieve credibility without actually having to say anything worthwhile.

It's as if the issue were the shape of the earth, and the people who beat up the most on the obviously foolish flat earthers are the dishonest cube-earthers so as to make the undecided think that they are correct and so as to avoid having to defend their cube-earth theory against the round-earth proponents. Then when the round earthers cal out the cube earthers on their BS, the cube-earthers cry foul and accuse the round-earthers of being divisive.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


uh huh!

Exactly my thoughts!

It's not the 'flat earthers' that I worry about. The cubed earthers are far more dangerous and slip under the radar under the cover of "hey, i'm not a 'no planer'"

Obviouse disinformation is most likely a cover for a more damaging campaign of diinformation and general misguidence geared towards wasting our time.

Atleast that is how I see it. I may be right or I may be wrong.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

remember jessica lynch?

I used to post on the new york times middle east forum (til I was banned) in the run up to and beginning of the Iraq War. The shills there kept assuring me that I was an idiot and that of course saddam had wmd. When Lynch was "rescued" I immediately posted my view that it was too suspiciously reminiscent of Saving Private Ryan and got called all kinds of things for daring to question this tale of heroism. Guess who is still laughing about that, and the WMD? Not the NYT shills or the skank that banned me that's for sure! This is just more of the same. Pearl Harbor the movie came out in the summer of 2001 right before Pearl Harbor the Catastrophic and Catalyizing Event™. If it all weren't so obvious and at the same time almost impossible to make people see it would be hilarious the way these crooks use movies to lay the groundwork for their psyops.

Speaking of, I finally succumbed to the temptation of filling out a survey that I always see the Harvard Psychology students conducting. I was prompted when I overheard a guy behind me doing the survey and saying something about terrorists. Here's what it was--tell me what weirdness this could indicate being afoot (remember the Unabomber was a product of Harvard Psych department experiments!)

The first page describes a fictional scenario where Boston has been taken over by soldiers who say they are going to kill all civilians. You are hiding out with a bunch of people in a basement when your baby starts crying. If you don't smother the baby (kill it) you will be discovered and everyone will be killed. How hard would it be for you to make that decision? somewhat, extremely, etc.

Next page. Picture of Darwin. You have died and find yourself in front of Charles Darwin, who is going to judge your life. What thoughts come to mind when you consider Darwin judging your life?

Now back to the baby. Would you smother it? How acceptable not acceptable morally speaking would you consider it to kill your baby to save the others?

OK next page... 2 pics, one boy of about 7, an orphan raised by his grandparents one man of about 35, a high school science teacher. They're traveling togetehr on a train. The train is boarded by terrorists looking for a government spy. They threaten to torture everyone. How much torture do you think the boy could take? The man? none, some, a lot, etc. There is a passenger revolt against the terrorists. How responsible do you think the boy was for the revolt? The man? not at all, somewhat, etc.



Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Strange indeed.

I heard that one about smothering the baby about 6 months ago on NPR. Nothing TOO unusual there.

But those other two? They border on nonsensical. It's almost as if they're not really designed to test a certain response, but to implant some kind of subliminal suggestion or idea. Judged by Darwin?? Am I the only one who finds that to be a complete thought-stopper? I'm not religious. Maybe this would have a different effect on a christian? It doesn't seem to make ANY sense to me.

How "responsible" was the boy for the revolt? What, like the boy is a CIA agent? Who is he "The Mole" from the South Park movie? Or maybe people revolted because they didn't want to see the boy tortured? Or maybe the boy jumped up out of his seat and all hell broke loose? What does the background info of the boy and man have to do with the situation?

I find that a lot of material directed at intellectuals these days seems to send the mind on a wild goose chase. Lots of complex and convoluted language that doesn't have any underlying substance or theme. Non sequiturs, verbal masturbation... Makes "liberals" feel good about themselves though, since they can read such big and esoteric words.

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine


What's Taliban Johnny is up to these days? Imagine this potential mind job....

Coming Fall 2007!
Taliban Johnny Walker Comes Out Of The Closet To Support 9/11 Truth!

I'm guessing that Taliban Johnny & Jessica Lynch will wed at some point within the next 15 years.

It's already been on TV

The scenario of killing a baby to avoid detection by those who are out to kill you has been shown in TV dramas before. I remember in the early '80, I think, seeing a version of 'The Wall,' about the Warsaw ghetto in WWII (not to be confused with Pink Floyd's work), where a baby is given a poison pill (which swiftly takes effect) to prevent a group of Jews on the run from being found out by a group of nearby Nazis. Then, not long after, in the final episode of M*A*S*H* (1983), Hawkeye recounts in psychotherapy an incident where a South Korean woman smothers her baby to death to avoid detection by North Korean troops.

Whether or not there is any actual historical basis for such scenes I do not know.

Thought you might be interested.

huh! interesting, thanks!


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Rosie Rocks

Rosie should call that stupid bitch on her support for the war - if she believes in it so much, her and her husband, then why doesn't she suck it up and join the military and go over and fight...the way Pat Tillman did.

Or does that blonde pid only support the war from her comfortable million dollar life style.

I bet they didn't serve K-rations when she went to the WH to dine with our NWO leaders, Bush and theQueen.

If that neo-CON pig believes in this so much....the go husband...the two of you....GO!!! We will not stop you....I will vote to fund that!

Long Live Rosie


Whats the deal? Anyone know why? What about the LC guys?????


When Neocons accuse sane people of not supporting the troops for criticizing a policy which accepts murdering Americans to invade other countries the response has to make mention of the fact that 9/11 was the justification for the war in Iraq.

I trust William

Moare than any other in this movement towards truth.

That's all I know for sure.
Together in Truth!

Well, let's hope he shares

Well, let's hope he shares the reason for his abrupt cancelation. He wrote a small post on the loose change forums about his canceling of the show, and just said he had to go to Washington D.C. to assist with some 9/11 first responders in some regard. He offered nothing more and I'm very curious and annoyed about the timing of this.

I agree

Mr. Rodriguez says that there are BIGGER and BETTER things on the way,

...and I assume he means that there are bigger and better guests schedueled to appear on the VIEW...

...if correct,...this is a true cause for celebration.

Everyone needs to chill out. These are not the remarks of a pessimist.

me too, but ..

Willie is the real deal. I saw him recently in Boston, and his messege and character shine for Truth. However, everyone and everything must be viewed critically because no one is above being manipulated by these dark forces. And he is clearly someone they will try to use to bring down this movement. Peace, good people.

Truth Will Prevail


...To quote the great Keanu Reeves...

Damn RP is really just laying it all out there, isn't he? People, I think that Ron standing up and giving a speech this pointed on the floor of Congress should really tell us something. It's about 30 seconds to midnight...

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

This clip should be spread far and wide!!

Start getting this clip out to everyone ASAP. This should be seen by not only those who are already "awake", but by those who still think it's "business as usual" in this country. If they are confused as to why he's talking about dissent, show them the last few martial law / dictator laws that have passed.


"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine

DSM, I'm going to re-post this.

This speech is huge. Very historic moment. This might be on par with "I have a dream.." and "Ask not what your country can do for you..."

"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine


Just posted in the Q&A section of Rosie's blog -- she might not be coming back for the remaining three weeks on her contract! Nooo!!!

Rosie is not coming back to

Rosie is not coming back to THE VIEW!

No mo Ro

I hope the ratings plummet!
"Cogito ergo sum"

I believe Rosie has three more weeks.....

on "The View". Then she is high-tailing it out of there.

After yesterday's blowup with Elizabeth (RILF) Hasselback, I wouldn't doubt that Rosie just puts it on cruise control and does not try to get any one from the 9/11 Truth movement on the show. She sounds really fed up with all the bad publicity at this point. I hope I am wrong.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

Willy says

so i take it from listening to his interview with Alex that he has been Rosie's advisor..did no know that, and that he has decided no 9/11 truth for now, let's see what happens. i guess i can't blame him...the forum would not be taken seriously after these past few rounds.

On a lighter note

see video of the Buckingham Palace Marching Band rehearsing for the next Bush visit.

interns < internets

No Rosie View with LC and Willy today!

Knew it was too good to be true. so bummed. I purposely switched my teaching schedule to stay home this morning to watch. and I rarely watch TV. From the YouTubes i've seen, it seems Elisabeth was in true harpie fashion provoking, provoking, picking and pawing at Rosie. It blew up, and now we have no show today with 9/11 truth's big chance pulverized. i smell sabotage. This whole "calling the troops terrorists" was a media word spin to kick Rosie off before the truth could have its day. Thanks Rosie, it was good ride, sorry you fell off before you could really finish the race.....

Audio Clip From Hour 3

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Truth be told...

I find the young, skinny, big breasted (are those new?) Elizabeth Hasselbeck absolutely revolting, and the older, heavier, lesbian Rosie, very attractive.

It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

Yes, intelligence is an

Yes, intelligence is an aphrodisiac. Stupidity has the opposite effect.

tsk tsk Jon. EH is 4 months

tsk tsk Jon.

EH is 4 months pregnant, so yes they are "new".

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She apparently...

Likes to flaunt them. It makes up for her lack of brain.

It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up

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preemptive attack

So Big Bro Bush has stepped in and stepped all over EVERYONE. the big trump. holds a press conf during The View time.
Lord forbid 30 million americans might get a taste of the truth. i wonder for how long Rosie knew this was going to happen.

"So Big Bro Bush has stepped

"So Big Bro Bush has stepped in and stepped all over EVERYONE. the big trump. holds a press conf during The View time.
Lord forbid 30 million americans might get a taste of the truth. i wonder for how long Rosie knew this was going to happen."

I was thinking the same thing. It coincided nearly perfectly with the program. Now I’m glad that the show was 'possibly' (hopefully) re-scheduled. I can’t recall the last time Bush held a PC. Being the befuddled jumbler of words that he is they don’t let him speak much.

Tough Love

(this was actually a mis-post to this post:, but it works here, too)

It's time to start slapping people around with some "tough love". Anyone who knows anything about this type of stuff knows that "tough love" is difficult, but that it is important and necessary. (and you can qualify all three words with "very")

The whole, "you can catch more people with honey than with vinegar", crap is child-speak, and child-thought.

People need to grow up and start acting like adults, and start treating the people who choose to act and think like "adult-children" like the people they choose to be. It's their choice, and we need to make them live with it. Either that, or they need to grow the fuck up.

It's pretty simple, really.

Toleration short of Condonation.

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here is a chuckle for friday

here is a chuckle for friday.. this was the clip after the heated exchange..

watch who gets the snub.. :)


and wow. that was a double plus snub, no question.


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she reached for an embrace and got the shoulder

she got the shoulder no doubt. I wonder if Hassletits is having some world view shattering reconsiderations.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

i think this is more important than people may think

We have for too long been sufefring from this--"hey we can disagree but let's be civil about it" crap. There are limits to that, there really are. You do not shake hands with a mass murderer, for example. You just don't. Elizabeth is going to learn the hard way that she chose poorly. That it is by now so clearly wrong to defend the actions of this administration that it is no longer going to work to hide behind enforced civility. Alicia just held Elizabeth accountable--not for her opinions but for her refusal to acknowledge clear facts. The conventional wisdom will be that Alicia was rude and should not have humiliated Elizabeth like that. The conventional wisdom is wrong. That was a courageous and powerful statement by Alicia. Petty? Actually no. Alicia seems to know that defending murder is not a petty offense and that people who do are not to be given any breaks even if it means that one will be criticized for being impolite. That is called CHARACTER and INTEGRITY, something that many today are sorely lacking, like the pathetic, cowardly, and corrupt weasels in congress. This is what we've been waiting for--an escalation in the culture wars that we have to win. We should make a clear example of Elizabeth Hasselbeck--we must shame her publicly and consistently until she starts undoing the damage she has done to the world. Of course that goes for the perpetraitors even more, but people like her who are their pretty face shield need to know we will not play the perps' game by sparing their pretty attack poodles from the full onslaught of our verbal outrage.


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i did say "or not".........

or it really could just be petty partisanship on Alicia's part. its fun to pretend to know what her motivations are i guess. maybe it really was genuine and about character and integrity or maybe it was simply Alicia being a good democrat. neither of us know. sadly at this point even war and mass murder are a political football for all sides. keep taking indirect shots at me though RT, its fun aint it? :-) i share your intense anger at puppets like Hasselbeck though,haha. people like her deserve no mercy.

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RT, that's an amazing post.

RT, that's an amazing post. I completely agree with you. Thank you for sharing those thoughts.

Also, thank you for posting this, dz. I TiVo'd "The View" that day, but I deleted it before Alicia appeared.

hahaha, i like Alicia

hahaha, i like Alicia Silverstone now. petty or not that was funny.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA