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Uh O, the first little problem with the BBC WTC 7 documentary.

Hi everyone,

This is the first of my posts on my Kiwi blog in reaction to the BBC Doc. about WTC 7.
In my opinion it is an amazing tool to bring more people the truth. It has brought the events to the fore again in peoples minds and the testimonies and evidence we accumulated over the years is so vast that is should not be a problem to tear the BBC doc to pieces.

Here I go; really hoping that my mind would be put too rest with this BBC documentary so that I could safely go back to being a sheeple again. It was so well made, I mean I didn’t even feel the need to hide it because it seemed so complete: Clearly a lot of time and money spend on getting it just right. Lots of specialists who clearly put in a lot of time and effort to giving us the answer we needed but than those pesky little things called facts muck it all up again. Damn. LOL.

So let’s get on with the always enjoyable task of ripping yet another well made piece of garbage apart!

Problem number 1: Barry Jennings testimony.

Barry Jennings was the Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Maybe you saw him as one of the eyewitnesses on the day of 911.

BBC's Third Tower: 30 Pieces of Good News

BBC's Third Tower: 30 Pieces of Good News

by Dr. Kevin Barrett and Rolf Lindgren

http://www.chicagotribune.com:80/news/chi-ap-wi-candidatefilings-,0,7076949.story

The one-hour BBC program The Third Tower should have a positive effect on spreading the truth about what happened to WTC 7. Despite its attempt to debunk by twisting and omitting facts, there is much to cheer about.

Here are 30 examples from the program:

1) There is a WTC 7, many have never heard of it.

2) No plane hit WTC 7.

3) WTC 7 fell down.

4) Several videos of WTC 7 falling down are shown.

5) The collapse is compared visually to a controlled demolition.

6) Barry Jennings tells of hearing multiple explosions in WTC 7.

7) Barry Jennings was told while in WTC 7 "Get out of there, get out of there now", which sounds very suspicious.

8) Barry Jennings' time-line is not contradicted by anything Barry Jennings says.

9) After seven years, no final report on the collapse of WTC 7 has appeared. The 9/11 Commission never mentioned the collapse of WTC 7.

10) The program will generate sales and Internet hits of 'Loose Change'.

Where do we start?

Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Alex Jones and Jason Bermas discuss BBC's "The Third Tower" after having a day to watch the video and are left wondering just where to start unraveling the mountain of disinformation and distortion whipped up by the perps media hacks


17:21 2.98MB

Infowars | The Alex Jones Show

Additional Jason Bermas Audio

BBC's "The Third Tower"

Here is my rebuttal.

BBC Conspiracy Files - the third tower

The BBC Conspiracy Files programme on the third tower was shown on the 6th July. On the surface it seemed to be a pretty fair, balanced programme but all the alternative stuff appeared at the beginning and most people would have forgotten about it by the end of the programme. The 'swiss cheese' comments about the holes in the steel was shown at the beginning to demonstrate something dodgy only to be dismissed at the end as nothing important.

Steven Jones's work wasn't given enough time and they showed a brief clip of his lecture in Boston). The positive thing about this is that the BBC have done us a huge favour by finally admitting there was a third building collapse.

Rawstory reports BBC WTC7 claim and posts pre-collapse youtube video

World Trade Center 7 mystery 'solved'? (rawstory)
Published: Saturday July 5, 2008

A new report by BBC 2's "Conspiracy Files" claims that the US National Institute of Standards and Technology is preparing to release a long awaited report on the collapse of World Trade Center 7, which fell on Sept. 11, 2001, about seven hours after WTC 1 and 2 were downed

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/World_Trade_Center_7_mystery_solved_0705.html

The Barry Jennings "Bodies" Claim -- False, Now that the BBC Interviews Him . . .

Barry Jennings seems to have just exposed himself on the BBC, so this looks like it was a set-up to make us look "confused" or misrepresenting our sources. Perhaps Jennings had some other reason that just ended up making us look bad. It sounds like it was intentional since it's unlikely someone would be unclear about such a powerful detail. Some on here were pointing out what a huge issue it would be if there were bodies -- it looks like that helped everyone to accept Jennings, despite his drama and the confusing aspects of his claims.

But regardless, after he does something like this, no one should promote any of his claims.

Q&A: The collapse of Tower 7
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/7434230.stm

"The writer and director of Loose Change, Dylan Avery, told The Conspiracy Files: "The amount of detail that Barry gave us in this interview was unreal. He says he was stepping over dead bodies in the lobby."

Barry Jennings himself disagrees with their interpretation of his words. Barry Jennings told the BBC: "I didn't like the way you know I was portrayed. They portrayed me as seeing dead bodies. I never saw dead bodies"

BBC and the official investigators solved the final mystery of 9/11- WTC 7 down by fires

Mike Rudin Spinmaster. Listen!

WTC 7 isn’t the final mystery, it is one in a row of mysteries.

We do not and will not fall for anyone claiming that the case is solved with the view solely on one point!

I just put together the main valid points and hints for an inside job in the last two weeks, points that can not be debunked, as they stand straight for the seventh year after the attacks, and were nearly never touched by “debunkers”. There is no special order in that points, and I’m sure I can add another 200 ones- I’m just not in the mood for deliver hard facts to ignorants. And, BTW, I have sources for all points, valid sources, established sources. It’s no problem to research it.

1: The failing interception of the hijacked planes and the lying from NORAD and FAA. No one was held accountable.

2: Wargames and Exercises that day- cover and confusion

3: Angel is next

4: Secret Service in Booker Elementary School did not evacuate Bush immediately- they know he was not in danger

5: Many members of the Bush Admin spoke of opportunities that 9/11 offered, Bush inclusive.

BBC Article: "9/11 Third Tower Mystery 'Solved'"

Here's a new article by Mike Rudin, that's been posted on the BBC News website. It mentions that NIST says "fire fighters could not fight the fires in Tower 7, because they didn't have enough water and focused on saving lives." However, NIST's claim is incorrect. There were in fact fireboats that had been moored near the WTC the morning of 9/11, to provide water to the site. See:
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/17_Pharvey.html

One of the boats, the John J. Harvey, could reportedly "pump 16,000 to 20,000 gallons of water a minute. 'That's the equivalent of 15 [fire] engines drafting water,' explained 65-year-old FDNY retiree Bob Lenney, who spent 25 years piloting Harvey." See:
http://www.fireboat.org/press/time_out_092701.asp

In fact, one of NIST's earlier reports stated, "According to the FDNY first-person interviews, water was never an issue at WTC 7 since firefighting was never started in the building." See:
http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-8.pdf (p. 110).

9/11 third tower mystery 'solved'

By Mike Rudin
BBC, Conspiracy Files

The final mystery of 9/11 will soon be solved, according to US experts investigating the collapse of the third tower at the World Trade Center.

The 47-storey third tower, known as Tower Seven, collapsed seven hours after the twin towers.

Investigators are expected to say ordinary fires on several different floors caused the collapse.

Conspiracy theorists have argued that the third tower was brought down in a controlled demolition.

Unlike the twin towers, Tower Seven was not hit by a plane.

BBC to broadcast "The Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower" on July 6th

I'm very curious, the preview doesn't look too bad.

The Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower
Sunday, 6, July, 2008
2100 BST, BBC Two

The 47-storey tower collapsed seven hours after the Twin Towers and it has become the subject of heated speculation and a host of conspiracy theories which suggest it was brought down by a controlled demolition.

Nearly seven years on, the final official report on the World Trade Centre is due to be published in July.

Official investigators are expected to conclude that fire caused the collapse of this third tower at the World Trade Centre. But that makes this the first and only skyscraper in the world to collapse solely due to fire.

The Conspiracy Files explores many unanswered questions to try to find out what really happened, and why some people think there was a sinister plot to destroy the building.

Watch a preview of the programme here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/7330169.stm

BBC - 9/11 - The Third Tower

(See also arie's blog on this. -rep.)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/

I'm trying to post the video player, but it won't work for some reason.

Attention german speaking truthers- new work by me

Hello out there- especially the german speaking part.

Last year on 9/11 the german channel ZDF aired their hit-piece co-produced with the BBC/Guy Smith.

It was a conglomeration of debunking phrases.

One point was interesting. I mentioned it here:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/11175

They claimed that the SFRM-spray on fireproof was missing and that was the cause for the collapse of the towers- and the conspiracy exists to cover this up.

It took me some time to work through the allegations and claims in that piece, but now my work is ready for publishing- and I'm proud tp present it here (german only so far).

It was a catastrophe, almost every claim they made could be easily debunked, when you are a real expert- not the ones they presented.

Viel Spaß beim Lesen! Kritiken ausdrücklich erwünscht!

A translation of the work of Jim Hoffman and other NIST critiques will be published soon.

http://www.habiru.de/Dirk_Gerhardt/ZDFAbgabe.pdf

http://www.habiru.de/Dirk_Gerhardt/Hoffmandeutsch.pdf

Edit: New version, some minor corrections on spelling, plus adding the 2 links on my homepage.

Coming soon ...

Where to begin?

First and foremost, the BBC's new special on WTC7 is currently picture locked and set for a tentative release date of June 15th, from my understanding. I had a lengthy conversation today with the producer of the special, and I must say, this will, at the very least, be much more balanced and open-minded than Guy Smith's earlier piece on the movement itself.

Also, from what I gathered, the NIST report on WTC7 is due for release in July. But that might change as well.

I need to compress and upload the footage from Dr. Griffin's event here at SDSU a few weeks ago, I've just been incredibly swamped out here with so many different priorities and objectives.

LCFC V1.1 is almost done mixing and ready for release. The fine folks at SMT Studios have been slaving away in their spare time trying to get it done as ASAP.

Also, Jason and Korey have been hard at work on Fabled Enemies. Obviously I'm only involved from an omniscient standpoint, but from what I've seen earlier this morning, it's shaping up to be a decent production.

Catch you guys soon.

Watch ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, and Fox September 11, 2001 coverage live, original, un-edited. (Even the commercials are intact!)

Watch the events of September 11, 2001 unfold in real-time, complete and unedited, on the major networks, simultaneously. These streams begin about 20 minutes before the first attack, while the morning news shows go about their cheerful business of interviewing tourists, singing the Love Boat theme song, goofing off with the cast of Everybody Loves Raymond, and discussing ways to make your pets live longer...

And then the world changed.

Living 9/11

Expect a coordinated push-back on WTC7 this summer

The BBC intends to release another episode in their 9/11 debunking saga, this one dedicated to WTC7. NIST is supposedly aiming for a summer release of their final report on WTC7.

Clearly, of all the visual anomalies of 9/11 that support the notion of controlled demolition on 9/11, the implosion of WTC7 is the most graphic and convincing. Even ardent defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory can't deny it.

If the OCT is so obviously true, why does the BBC feel the urge to spend millions of pounds hammering away at obvious fallacies?

And, slightly off topic, why isn't there ONE video of any of the alleged Arab "hijackers" getting on board ANY of the allegedly "hijacked" 9/11 planes?


The Third Tower on 9/11
Do we really know what happened on 9/11?

BBC Two: Friday, 4 April 2008

Hidden behind the Twin Towers stood World Trade Centre Building 7. This 610ft (186m), 47 storey skyscraper also collapsed on 11 September 2001.

An anonymous building from the outside it housed some very special occupants: the CIA, the Secret Service, and the very agency meant to combat terrorist attacks - the Office of Emergency Management.