Debunking 911 Debunking

DEBUNKING 9/11 DEBUNKING - a short review

David Ray Griffin
Olive Branch Press, 2007, 392 pages

David Ray Griffin only has one setting on his blender: "Annihilate".

With DEBUNKING 9/11 DEBUNKING, Griffin puts the "Official Conspiracy Theory" (OCT) into the blender, along with the reports and publications that shore it up.

It turns out that the defenders of the OCT don't have a monopoly on the facts, but they do have a lot of time on their hands when it comes to putting makeup on the pig that is the Grade-A Government Approved ballad of Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. For some reason, however, they are absent where their critical skills could be very useful, like casting a spotlight on the incompatible stories that NORAD told to the 9/11 Commission, (and the world), regarding their reactions to the hijacked planes on 9/11.

"They lied to the American people, they lied to Congress and they lied to your 9/11 Commission to create a false impression of competence, communication, coordination and protection of the American people." - Senator Mark Dayton, July 31, 2004.

"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied." - Thomas H. Kean, August, 2006.

Apparently, NORAD's lies are no big deal to "debunkers". Well, they are a big deal to a growing number of people, and after the thorough dissection that the shifting NORAD 9/11 timeline gets from Griffin, via the utter shredding of Michael Bronner's Vanity Fair piece entitled, 9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes... you have to wonder how honest the intent of the average debunker truly is.

David Ray Griffin - Barbara Olson’s Alleged Call from AA 77: A Correction about Onboard Phones

(This is a mirror of the Information Clearing House post. -r.)

Barbara Olson’s Alleged Call from AA 77:
A Correction about Onboard Phones

David Ray Griffin
May 7, 2007

In my recently released book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking (1), I claimed that Boeing 757s made for American Airlines did not have seat-back phones or any other onboard telephones.

This claim, if true, would be very important, because one could use it, as I did, to argue that the alleged telephone call from Barbara Olson to her husband, US Solicitor General Ted Olson, could not have occurred. It might be thought, to be sure, that the call could have been made from her cell phone. Ted Olson did, in fact, make this claim at times. As I reported, however, the evidence indicates that cell phone calls from high-flying airliners would not have been possible in 2001, given the cell phone technology of the time. In any case, Ted Olson, after going back and forth between these two claims, finally settled on the claim that the calls were made on a seat-back phone. If Flight 77, being an AA Boeing 757, had no onboard phones, we would have to conclude that Olson’s claim could not be true. I myself drew that conclusion (while saying that this would leave open the question of whether Olson invented the story or was himself a victim, like the relatives of other passengers, of faked phone calls).

My Error

I based my conclusion on conversations that Ian Henshall and Rowland Morgan had with American Airlines in 2004 while they were co-authoring book. In this book, 9/11 Revealed, they said: “A call by us to American Airlines’ London Office produced a definitive statement from Laeti Hyver that (AA’s) 757s do not have Airfones. This was confirmed by an email from AA in the US.” (2)

Although this email correspondence was not printed in their book, or in Morgan’s later Flight 93 Revealed, in which it is also reported, (3) they allowed me to print it in Debunking 9/11 Debunking. In reply to their letter asking whether “757s (are) fitted with phones that passengers can use,” an AA spokesman wrote: “American Airlines 757s do not have onboard phones for passenger use.” To check on the possibility that Barbara Olson might have borrowed a phone intended for crew use, they asked, “(A)re there any onboard phones at all on AA 757s, i.e., that could be used either by passengers or cabin crew?” The response was: “AA 757s do not have any onboard phones, either for passenger or crew use. Crew have other means of communication available.” (4) Debunking 9/11 Debunking by DRG Update

I'm not trying to implicate Amazon in some kind of 9/11 coverup conspiracy, but I just wanted to post an update of David Ray Griffin's new book and the delays when ordering on

I had preordered the book about 3 weeks before it came out. It was supposed to ship out on the 31st of March or thereabouts. Then I got an update telling me that it was delayed until mid-June. I was very sad as DRG is coming to Seattle on May 18th and was hoping to have it in time for that event.

When a delay like this occurs you can "okay" the delay or cancel your order. I contemplated canceling my order to see if I could pick it up earlier from a local bookstore.

A few days later I saw a post here claiming that someone else had this problem, they emailed Amazon and then received an email saying that there order was back on track and to be shipped out the next day.

I decided to follow suit and emailed customer service at I sent the email on Thursday or Friday. I just received confirmation that my order has shipped today.

Mark Crispin Miller Promotes "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" on His Blog

NYU professor Mark Crispin Miller recently sent an email to his blog readers containing a brief description of David Ray Griffin's Debunking 9/11 Debunking, including blurbs of praise from Howard Zinn and others. His blog, News from the Underground, features this material today.

Miller has not publicly declared his support for 9/11 Truth; however, such visible promotion of Griffin's book would appear to be an indirect endorsement of at least Griffin's work.

Miller has written books critical of the Bush regime, including Cruel and Unusual. His recent work focuses on election fraud, which he wrote about in Fooled Again. I highly recommend his work.