Deep Politics

Ray McGovern : "Has The CIA Gone Rogue?"

Retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern speaking to the Deerfield Progressive Forum

Dr. Peter Dale Scott: An Example of Intellectual Courage and Outstanding Scholarship

Dr. Peter Dale Scott charcoal portrait

Dr. Peter Dale Scott's work has a major effect on many seeking a honest and realistic model that describes politics and hidden politics. He is the son of a notable intellectual family. His father F.R. Scott was the McGill Dean of Law and mentor of Pierre Trudeau who would go on to become Canada's Prime Minister. His mother, Marian Dale Scott was a Montreal painter. Peter Dale Scott was born on January 11, 1929. In Poland, during 1961, his work at the Canadian embassy involved reading cables from the International Control Commission policing the 1954 Geneva Accords dividing North and South Vietnam. He went on to teach at the University of California at Berkeley. He was an anti-war speaker during the Vietnam and U.S.-Iraq wars and he became the co-founder of the Peace and Conflict Studies Program at his university, and of the Coalition on Political Assassinations (COPA). He is currently Professor Emeritus of English.

The Ballad of Mohamed Atta - What's Myth? What is True?

The Ballad of Mohamed Atta – Vic Sadot at Last FM on “9/11 Truth & Justice Songs”. Great violin by Vic's buddy Eric Golub. This song was written after reading the Australian Broadcast Corporation interviews by Liz Jackson with Ralph Bodenstein & Volker Hauth who were buddies with Mohamed Atta in their college days. They simply could not imagine him being the person described in the US Press. Research by Daniel Hopsicker of Mad Cow News “Welcome to Terrorland” revealed a Mohamed devoid of religion & addicted to sex & drugs, who had Visas & US military training at Huffman Aviation & Pensacola Naval Base in Florida. What is myth? What is true?

10-24-17 Truth Troubadour @ 911blogger Edit Udate #1: Replacing a link that no longer works at Last FM. Last FM got sold to a big corporation, which resulted in indie artists and their past posts disappearing, especially free song downloads. Here are two new links to the songs where you can listen on YouTube followed by a link for a free download at SoundCloud.

Cover article published on the Understanding Deep Politics Conference

This article by Byron Belitsos is now available in the May Issue of the Connection Magazine, Santa Cruz, CA. Thank you Byron for your thoughtful article, and thanks to the Connection Magazine for covering our event in your May issue.

Face the Shadow First:
Seeking the Hidden Dimensions of American and Global Politics

Probe Beneath the Surface of the Obama Era at the “Understanding Deep Politics” Conference
in Santa Cruz, May 14-16

By Byron Belitsos

Some say it began with the invasion of Iraq. Others, with the inauguration of George W. Bush for his second term. Many point to the day of 9/11. But those in the know—including ten distinguished speakers headlining the “Understanding Deep Politics” Conference in Santa Cruz this May 14-16—trace the era of deep politics further back: some to JFK’s assassination; others, to the aftermath of World War II. And a few speakers in Santa Cruz will stretch us back to Hitler, Lenin, Weishaupt, or Machiavelli, from there to ancient secret societies, and even back to the dawn of human governance itself—in the belief that conscious political deception is an inescapable feature of human nature. But all agree on the general definition of deep politics: It refers to government in which two dimensions of action always coexist: overt and covert, or benign and utterly ruthless.

Face the Shadow First: Seeking the Hidden Dimensions of American and Global Politics - The Truth Agony of 9/11

This article anticipates on the upcoming “Understanding Deep Politics” Conference in Santa Cruz this May 14-16

Source: Axis of Logic [Finding Clarity in the 21st century mediaplex]
Author: Byron Belitsos
Published: Saterday, May 1, 2010

"At first just a trickle, a growing stream of prominent Americans are now lending their names to this persistent phenomenon now known as the 911 truth movement. The list includes well-known intelligence, military, and science professionals with names like Lynn Margulis, Ph.D., world-renowned biologist and Presidential Medal of Science winner; Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell; Paul Craig Roberts, PhD, assistant treasury secretary under Reagan; Catherine Austin Fitts, assistant secretary of housing under George H.W. Bush; Colonel Robert Bowman, director of “Star Wars” under Carter; and Ray McGovern, a CIA veteran who advised many presidents. Overseas, a myriad of prominent names have admitted profound doubts, including former Italian President Francesco Cossigaone and Yukihisa Fujita, an influential member of parliament for the opposition party in Japan. Over forty U.S. counter-terrorism and intelligence agency veterans have also challenged the official account, calling it: “terribly flawed,” “laced with contradictions,” and “a cover-up.” Indeed, the names of prominent dissenters to the official account are now too numerous to list. At the website, the list of professionals adding their names to the avalanche includes 1100+ engineers and architects, 250+ pilots, 400+ professors, and many more groups.

But did you hear about any of this from our mainstream media?

An Honest Skeptic’s View of the Great American Conspiracies: Lincoln to 9/11 – Interview with Dr Stephen Juan

Link to article and Download-

A Visibility 9-11 Podcast

Interview by John Bursill

Dr Stephen Juan

It is a great pleasure to welcome bestselling author, media personality and lecturer Dr Stephen Juan to Visibility 9-11 to talk about “honest” skepticism of the great American conspiracies. This is a very interesting interview as we touch on many common themes in historical events setting the climate for the 9/11 Attacks. We explore the Lincoln assassination, the sinking of the Maine and Lusitania, Pearl Harbor and the JFK assassination. It is also a little special in my view as this skepticism is being presented in a balanced and conservative way by an intellectual who is not connected to the 9/11 Truth Movement, but rather to the mainstream.

Understanding Deep Politics Conference

Announcing the Understanding Deep Politics Conference:
- Revealing the Driving Forces Behind World Events and Creating Alternative Solutions

University Inn & Conference Center - Santa Cruz, CA - May 14 - 16th, 2010

10 international intellectual leaders converge in one weekend in pursuit of truth and solutions.

With Speakers: Ellen Brown, Ian Crane, David Ray Griffin, Annie Machon, Jim Marrs,
Cynthia McKinney, Michael Parenti, Peter Phillips, Peter Dale Scott and Barrie Zwicker

Tired of endless wars, bank bailouts, corrupt politicians, unrelenting corporate power, loss of
liberties, the healthcare crisis and the overall current malaise? Find out the how and whys of
many of the current societal issues facing us and be part of new emerging solutions.

Peter Dale Scott on Diet Soap Part Two

This week's Diet Soap podcast features the second part of a conversation with Peter Dale Scott about his book "The Road to 9/11." Peter also discusses his views on the pros and cons of Noam Chomsky, his admiration and impatience with anarchism and other revolutionary strategies for social change, and the necessary difficulties involved with attempts to understand deep politics. Phil Och's song "Love Me I'm Liberal" along with a factoid on the Titanic are also featured.

2 Japanese Carrying $134 BIL Worth of U.S. bonds Detained in Italy

"2 Japanese carrying $134 bil worth of U.S. bonds detained in Italy

Original Dateline Thursday 11th June, 06:18 AM JST


Two Japanese nationals were detained by Italian financial police last week after trying to enter Switzerland with $134 billion worth of undeclared U.S. bonds, mostly Treasury bonds, an Italian daily said Wednesday. The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm with Italian authorities whether the two were indeed Japanese nationals and their identities.

According to the report in il Giornale, two unidentified Japanese in their 50s concealed the bonds, including 249 U.S. Treasury bonds each worth $500 million, in a suitcase with a false bottom that was searched by the Italian authorities June 3 when they were in Chiasso, at the border with Switzerland, about 50 kilometers north of Milan. The daily did not say on what charges they have been detained, but the two may have been detained on suspicion of attempting to take a large amount of securities out of Italy without declaring it because the paper said they had not declared the bonds."

9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics by Prof. Peter Dale Scott

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9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics by Prof. Peter Dale Scott

Global Research, June 11, 2008

The Deep State and 9/11

The unthinkable – that elements inside the state would conspire with criminals to kill innocent civilians – has become not only thinkable but commonplace in the last century. A seminal example was in French Algeria, where dissident elements of the French armed forces, resisting General de Gaulle’s plans for Algerian independence, organized as the Secret Army Organization and bombed civilians indiscriminately, with targets including hospitals and schools. Critics like Alexander Litvinenko, who was subsequently murdered in London in November 2006, have charged that the 1999 bombings of apartment buildings around Moscow, attributed to Chechen separatists, were in fact the work of the Russian secret service (FSB).

Similar attacks in Turkey have given rise to the notion there of an extra-legal "deep state" – a combination of forces, ranging from former members of the CIA-organized Gladio organization, to "a vast matrix of security and intelligence officials, ultranationalist members of the Turkish underworld and renegade former members of the [Kurdish separatist] PKK." The deep state, financed in part by Turkey’s substantial heroin traffic, has been accused of killing thousands of civilians, in incidents such as the lethal bomb attack in November 2005 on a bookshop in Semdinli. This attack, initially attributed to the Kurdish separatist PKK, turned out to have been committed by members of Turkey's paramilitary police intelligence service, together with a former PKK member turned informer. On April 23, 2008, the former Interior Minister Mehmet Agar was ordered to stand trial for his role in this dirty war during the 1990s.

Home page of a great site, Gatecreepers

Below are the links for the home page of a great site, Gatecreepers, at You will find a wealth of articles for self-education on Cointelpro at the site.

Gatecreepers - Home exclusive: Peter Dale Scott: "JFK, 9/11 and War"

A video version of this talk with slightly different text is available on DVD from as part of the Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference package. -rep.

JFK, 9/11 and War

By Dr. Peter Dale Scott
Saturday, August 18 2007

In American history there are two types of event: ordinary events which the information systems of the country can understand and establish. There are also deep events, or meta-events, which the mainstream information systems of the country cannot digest. I mean by a “deep event” an event in which it is clear from the outset that there are aspects which will not be dealt with in the mainstream media, and will be studied only by those so-called “conspiracy theorists” who specialize in deep history.

The events I shall discuss today exhibit continuities with each other and with other deep events, notably the Iran-Contra affair of the mid 1980s and the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995. But the three I shall discuss today – the JFK assassination, the initial Watergate break-ins, and 9/11 – are outstanding in this respect: that while they were attributed to insignificant and very marginal people, they had momentous impact, far more than most daily events by more important people, in redirecting American history. 1

If history is what is recorded, then deep history is the sum of events which tend to be officially obscured or even suppressed in traditional books and media. Important recent deep events include the political assassinations of the 1960s, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and now 9/11. All these deep events have involved what I call the deep state, that part of the state which is not publicly accountable, and pursues its goals by means which will not be approved by a public examination. The CIA (with its on-going relationships to drug-traffickers) is an obvious aspect of the deep state, but not the only one, perhaps not even the dirtiest.

When I talk of a deep state, this term (as opposed to others, like deep politics), is not my own invention. It is a translation of the Turkish gizli devlet, or derin devlet, a term used to describe the networks revealed by the so-called Susurluk incident of 1996, when the victims traveling together in what became a deadly car crash were identified as "an MP, a police chief, a beauty queen and her lover, a top Turkish gangster and hitman called Abdullah Catli.” The giveaway was that “Catli, a heroin trafficker on Interpol's wanted list, was carrying a diplomatic passport signed by none other than the Turkish Interior Minister himself.” 2 He was carrying narcotics with him at the time of the crash. 3

The study of these deep events has slowly become more respectable in the almost half-century since the JFK assassination. A major reason has been the emergence of the Internet and other forms of new media, where the same deep events tend to get far more extensive treatment. 4 If the new media come in time to prevail over the priorities of the old, it is possible that we will see a paradigm shift with respect to what is appropriate for serious public discourse.

What I have learned over the years is that it is helpful to look at all these deep events together. This is true for both external reasons (how the nation and its media handle deep history) and for internal reasons (the content of deep events themselves)...


Seminal Book Released – A Cornerstone for the Truth Movement

Peter Dale Scott's historic new book, The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America, is now available.

The importance of this publication should not be underestimated. Published by the University of California Press, Scott's new book goes further than any other book so far published about 9/11, to identify and establish through unimpeachable documentary evidence the historic factors that have made the crime of 9/11 and its cover-up possible. More than this, The Road to 9/11 demonstrates exactly how it has happened over the past half century that American democracy has been fundamentally undermined, and, vitally, how it can be re-established.

Peter Dale Scott followed by Kevin Ryan on Alex Jones today.

Alex Jones talks with Canadian-born poet, author, and anti-war activist, Peter Dale Scott about 9/11, his "deep history" research, and his book Drugs Oil and War.

Will be followed by Kevin Ryan.

"This is absolutely central to understanding 9/11. Which is, that the American government, the CIA, have been using Muslim fundamentalists for 30 years." - Peter Dale Scott - 9/8/2006 - Alex Jones Radio Show.

In progress.