Pilots for 9/11 Truth

Former 'View' Host O'Donnell Finds Pilots Who Believe 9/11 Conspiracy

Source: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2007/08/22/former-view-host-odonnell-finds-pilots-who-believe-9-11-conspiracy

Former 'View' Host O'Donnell Finds Pilots Who Believe 9/11 Conspiracy

By Ken Shepherd | August 22, 2007 - 16:41 ET

Sometimes I wonder if, when she left "The View," Rosie O'Donnell ever looked in the mirror and borrowed from the 37th President of the United States. "You won't have Rosie to kick around anymore!" Of Course, Richard Nixon never had a blog, Rosie does, and when she's not showing videos of her kids or writing stream-of-consciousness poetry, she's sharing her favorite 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Joy of joys.

Here's the latest:

Continuation of Volume I with a high quality, updated, 3D in depth analysis.

911 Special effects

I send this letter to both the pilots for 911truth and the ae911truth sites.
I there is anybody here from either sites or some of the other scholars for 911 truth they are cordially invited to help me on the subject.

This is the letter:

Together with my husband I ran a SFX company for 18 years.
Nothing glamorous, no big blockbusters, just a lot of hard work, long days and nasty deadlines.
We worked primarily in the advertisement world and did what is called table top SFX. We made moving models, computer animated in the real world, in preparation for the compilation of the filmed material with film editing software.

Still, we kept abreast of all the latest big screen effects and we always if only for the fun of it analyzed the sfx movies we saw.
After we stopped with our company in search of a more relaxed lifestyle, I was able to become a full time 911 researcher and I now run a blog (see signature).

I am also working on analysing what was obviously one of the most spectacular SFX productions of all times: the events of 911!

I try to put the events together from an SFX engineer's point of view.

ABCNews Deletes/Censors Pilotsfor911truth.org

When replying to ABCNews forums regarding this article which can be found atop of our homepage, ABCNews has decided to delete/censor our reply.

This is the first reply which they do not want others to see -

Mr Forbes,

Please quote a theory from our website at pilotsfor911truth.org.

I havent had a chance to read through the replies. But please check our homepage for corrections/comments to this article as we did not write it.

However, we did write this press release... [URL=http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pressrelease.html]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pressrelease.html[/URL]

The Flight Data Recorder information does not support the govt story. When asked, the FBI and NTSB refuse to comment. Recordings can be found at our site. This should raise a serious eyebrow for any journalist who has respect for his work.

Pilots for 911 Truth

I got into a blog argument with a debunker who provided what *might* be a good debunking of the claim by pilotsfor 911 truth that the final Flight 77 data does not indicate the plane could not have hit the Pentagon.

He says the plane was in a near stall, went into a dive then levelled out at high speed into the Pentagon.

So the question to you is whether or not his anlalysis is crap or not.

Here is his "debunking" followed by my reply:

“… So I read a bit of the pilots for 911 truth or whatever. Took me about two minutes to find a glaring flaw. Maybe it is just a typo, or maybe they are lying sacks of shit, I don’t know. And since I don’t know for sure they aren’t lying sacks of shit I really have no opinion on whether they are lying sacks of shit. I should probably read more of your stuff, it usually doesn’t take long to find the errors. So the maneuver that can’t be made;

[The last known altitude reported for AA77 was 7000 feet. And travelled 33 miles in 5 minutes. That’s 6.6 miles per minute or 396 knots] these numbers work no problem here.

Interview With Fighter Pilot Lt Col. Guy Razor - 6/23/07

Interview With Fighter Pilot


Lt. Col. Guy Razor, member Pilotsfor911truth.org interviewed regarding Sept 11, 2001 NORAD response, Defense protocol, and personal experiences. Please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org and http://tnrlive.com for more info. 29:45


New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20070621/bs_prweb/prweb534642_1

New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Thu Jun 21, 3:01 AM ET

Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11 Report claims hit the Pentagon. Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction, approach, and altitude. The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor. This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding.

Madison, WI (PRWEB) June 21, 2007 - A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. "We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building," said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American people by The 9/11 Commission":

NTSB Cites Tax Case Law As Refusal To Answer Questions

NTSB Cites Tax Case Law As Refusal To Answer Questions


A prominent 9/11 Researcher and colleague of Pilots For 9/11 Truth, John Farmer, submitted a request to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) seeking answers for the various discrepancies within the American Airlines Flight 77 Flight Data Recorder. The NTSB responded in the form of case law as an excuse and precedent to not address the questions raised regarding the information the NTSB provided through the FOIA which does not support the govt story. It is no surpise one case the NTSB sources is a tax case seeking recent federal tax court rulings. Click picture for full article.



Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files


Saturday June 16, 2007

Calum Douglas presents his investigation into the flight data recorder from Flight 77, which was supplied to him under the US Freedom of Information Act, to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square, London on 8th June 2007.

Local Mirror: http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=227

Finding Truth in "Unlikely" Places

I received the following email from a friend of mine this afternoon -- and I think it's the kind of story everyone likes to hear. My friend is a pilot (and a member of Pilots for 9/11 Truth) and works at the airport of a West Coast city. He wrote:

I just had an interesting conversation. I was sitting at the food court in [the] airport on my computer and I overheard two TSA (Transportation Security Administration) guys talking about 9/11. They were definite skeptics of the official story. I went to the Pilots for 9/11 Truth website and took my computer over to their table and showed it to them. At first, they seemed a bit mistrustful, like I was going to launch into an angry defense of the official story, but when they figured out what the site was about and when I told them that I was one of the organizers of the [David Ray Griffin] event, we proceeded to get into a very friendly, lively discussion about several topics.

Debunking FDR Debunking

In the spirit of DRG's latest book "Debunking 9/11 Debunking", i thought i would put together an article for those to help out with the most common so-called "Debunks" of our work.

Claim - There are No pilots at pilotsfor911truth.org


All above names who are pilots certified by the FAA can be cross referenced here...

Claim - The FDR is missing 2-6 seconds of data

FDR Recorders built to .5 sec lag maximum standard

Radar Altitude Confirms too high

Claim - There is altimeter lag in the animation and csv file due to flying outside the aircraft envelope.

Airdata Calibration and Measurement

FDR Vertical Speed - Altimeter lag issues Addressed

Radar Altitude Confirms too High
more below...

Pandora's Black Box - Chapter Three - Flight of United 93 (Trailer)

First Trailer for upcoming Chapter Three in the PBB series regarding United 93, NTSB Flight Data Recorder information/animation and the incident in Shanksville,PA.

Rob Balsamo

Email exchange with NTSB

I called the NTSB yesterday regarding a general inquiry into how they produce their animations for investigation. I did not intend to ask any question with regard to Sept 11. It was a general inquiry...

This was their reply...

Subject: September 11 products
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:56:44 -0400
From: "Lopatkiewicz Ted" Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: pilotsfortruth@yahoo.com
Mr. Balsamo:
I understand that you have recently contacted Mr. Doug Brazy of our staff to inquire about work done following the September 11 terrorist attacks. As you well know, we supported the Federal Bureau of Investigation's investigation into those attacks. Our work product was done on their behalf. Under the Freedom of Information Act, we have released some of that work product, and it can be found on our website. Because this work was done to support another agency, we are not commenting on it, and would refer all inquiries to the FBI. Any future contact with our agency on this matter should be conducted through established FOIA procedures. Please do not contact any NTSB employees directly on this matter.

Ted Lopatkiewicz
Director of Public Affairs

Pilots Discuss Difficulty of WTC Attacks

Professional Pilots Rob Balsamo and FAA Authorized Flight Examiner/Check Airman Dan Govatos discuss the difficulty of the WTC attacks as well as attempts to duplicate the attack in an Airline Simulator on tnrlive.com.

visit http://truthorlies.org for archive of full interview.

Visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org for the latest information and in depth analysis.


Pilots For Truth Welcomes Capt Field McConnell - 9/11 Lawsuit Filed!

Capt McConnell has been a core member for a while, but due to busy schedules we were just able to get his bio up on the core members page today. Its an honor to have you Capt McConnell!

Field McConnell (Captain Sherlock?)
23,000+ hours
Forced to retire due 9/11 exposure

Pilots For Truth Welcomes 5 New Members!

It is our honor and pleasure to introduce 5 new members joining our team....

Experience/Credentials as follows.

Christina Merrick
12,000+ TT ATP
A&P, CFIAIM, FE Turbojet
B-727, DC-9, SNJ-5, (T-6)
Navion and Bellanca Viking Current
Advanced Instructing
Consultant for AOPA Legal Attorneys
Eastern Airlines, ValuJet
Fellow Pilot and Friend of Captain Candi Chamberlain Kubeck
ValuJet flight 592, brought down in the Everglades May 1996

Dave Kisor
Former Aviation Electrician
USN / USNR Worked on A-4E/F, TA-4F/J
& A-7B/E ashore and afloat (CV-19, CV-43)
P-3B & C-9B. Back seat TA-4F/J & A-4F NWL
Flight & hangar deck fire fighting qualified
Jumped from UH-1N
BA & MA in Geography
Presently employed US Forest Service
Technician at the Riverside CA Fire Laboratory

Slawomir M. Kozak
Air Traffic Controller
Warsaw International Airport Tower Control Supervisor
On Job Training Unit Chief
Former President of Polish Air Traffic Controllers Association
Former member of Polish Airports State Enterprise Employee’s Council
Member of National Aviation Council
Member of International Aviation English Association
Journalist of aviation magazines